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Henry Edwards33 Henry Edwards33 RegularOP
678 messages
joined Aug 2015
#621 ·
ruggedcyclist74 said:Go ahead and mock me, 😍 you little overachiever 😁

But when you find yourself panicking on Monday morning, just know I'll be sitting here feeling incredibly envious of you while you enjoy your peace and quiet somewhere else 😂😂😂

Don't get carried away 😉

Don't worry, I've got plenty of backlog. I've been leaving everything for "later" for ages. But I'm not letting this ruin my mood. 👋

Anyway, I finally made it home. It feels like it's been an eternity since I could actually get through everything. 🙄

As for the paperwork, I'm done waiting on them. I'm finished. I'll give it until a certain deadline, and after that, I'm just tackling things as they come. Whatever is ready gets done, and whatever isn't? That can wait for the next tax season. 😳
ruggedcyclist74 ruggedcyclist74 Active Member
193 messages
joined Feb 2009
#622 ·
Henry Edwards33 said:Don't get carried away 😉

Don't worry, I've got plenty of backlog. I've been leaving everything for "later" for ages. But I'm not letting this ruin my mood. 👋

Anyway, I finally made it home. It feels like it's been an eternity since I could actually get through everything. 🙄

As for the paperwork, I'm done waiting on them. I'm finished. I'll give it until a certain deadline, and after that, I'm just tackling things as they come. Whatever is ready gets done, and whatever isn't? That can wait for the next tax season. 😳

That sounds wise; I think I’ll have to adopt that same strategy...

And please, don't let anything sour your mood this weekend. Just close those ledgers, shut them tight, and don't even think about glancing at them until Wednesday... better yet, turn off your work phone entirely 🙂
If you feel a bit of anxiety creeping in on Monday, just grab a glass of water and try to look the other way 😉🙂

Honestly, these past four months have been absolutely brutal, and I suspect they've been just as draining for you
Henry Edwards33 Henry Edwards33 RegularOP
678 messages
joined Aug 2015
#623 ·
ruggedcyclist74 said:That sounds wise; I think I’ll have to adopt that same strategy...

And please, don't let anything sour your mood this weekend. Just close those ledgers, shut them tight, and don't even think about glancing at them until Wednesday... better yet, turn off your work phone entirely 🙂
If you feel a bit of anxiety creeping in on Monday, just grab a glass of water and try to look the other way 😉🙂

Honestly, these past four months have been absolutely brutal, and I suspect they've been just as draining for you

Honestly, you don't have much choice if you want to stay sane. 😁

And don't let anything ruin your weekend vibes. Just shut those books tight and don't even look at them—don't even think about work until Wednesday... and turn off that company phone. 🙂

It was brutal. Things got way more tangled up on my end than usual, but whatever, it's over. I'm done thinking about it.
I can't exactly kill my work phone, but I know they'll only call if someone is literally dying. I've made sure they're too terrified to try anything. 🤣

If you feel a bit shaky on Monday, just grab a glass of water and keep moving. Don't give it a second thought. 😉🙂

Man, these last four months have been an absolute grind. Probably felt the same for you guys too...

Drinking water will be the easy part. For everyone else here, just try not to overdo it with the overtime. Some things can definitely wait. 😉
ruggedcyclist74 ruggedcyclist74 Active Member
193 messages
joined Feb 2009
#624 ·
Henry Edwards33 said:Honestly, you don't have much choice if you want to stay sane. 😁

And don't let anything ruin your weekend vibes. Just shut those books tight and don't even look at them—don't even think about work until Wednesday... and turn off that company phone. 🙂

It was brutal. Things got way more tangled up on my end than usual, but whatever, it's over. I'm done thinking about it.
I can't exactly kill my work phone, but I know they'll only call if someone is literally dying. I've made sure they're too terrified to try anything. 🤣

If you feel a bit shaky on Monday, just grab a glass of water and keep moving. Don't give it a second thought. 😉🙂

Man, these last four months have been an absolute grind. Probably felt the same for you guys too...

Drinking water will be the easy part. For everyone else here, just try not to overdo it with the overtime. Some things can definitely wait. 😉

Considering I’ve already reached the stage where I find myself tapping rhythmically on my keyboard just to stay grounded and dialing the help hotline out of pure reflex, I suspect I’ve officially crossed that line. 😂😂😂

Henry Edwards33 said:Honestly, you don't have much choice if you want to stay sane. 😁

And don't let anything ruin your weekend vibes. Just shut those books tight and don't even look at them—don't even think about work until Wednesday... and turn off that company phone. 🙂

It was brutal. Things got way more tangled up on my end than usual, but whatever, it's over. I'm done thinking about it.
I can't exactly kill my work phone, but I know they'll only call if someone is literally dying. I've made sure they're too terrified to try anything. 🤣

If you feel a bit shaky on Monday, just grab a glass of water and keep moving. Don't give it a second thought. 😉🙂

Man, these last four months have been an absolute grind. Probably felt the same for you guys too...

Drinking water will be the easy part. For everyone else here, just try not to overdo it with the overtime. Some things can definitely wait. 😉

Well, you don't exactly strike me as a terrifying figure. 🙂

Henry Edwards33 said:Honestly, you don't have much choice if you want to stay sane. 😁

And don't let anything ruin your weekend vibes. Just shut those books tight and don't even look at them—don't even think about work until Wednesday... and turn off that company phone. 🙂

It was brutal. Things got way more tangled up on my end than usual, but whatever, it's over. I'm done thinking about it.
I can't exactly kill my work phone, but I know they'll only call if someone is literally dying. I've made sure they're too terrified to try anything. 🤣

If you feel a bit shaky on Monday, just grab a glass of water and keep moving. Don't give it a second thought. 😉🙂

Man, these last four months have been an absolute grind. Probably felt the same for you guys too...

Drinking water will be the easy part. For everyone else here, just try not to overdo it with the overtime. Some things can definitely wait. 😉

That is precisely the problem—there is no "other day"... While I can easily fix my own sales tax filings later, the year-end audits have a hard deadline, and it looks like I'll end up having to bail out my colleagues who haven't quite finished their parts in time...
amberbadger17 amberbadger17 Active Member
190 messages
joined May 2012
#625 ·
ruggedcyclist74 said:Oh, they certainly haven't earned it... though I do have one client who hasn't even bothered to get their paperwork over to me yet. If they can't be bothered to care, neither can I; I'll just file the sales tax return as a zero and deal with the amendment later when I actually feel like it. 🙂

I won't be able to make it for a long weekend, unfortunately, since I'm stuck working this Monday. 🙂 🙂

Actually, this is kind of interesting. I've never really thought about it because I always file my sales tax on time... but what if I actually miss a deadline? Do I just file a zero? And then do an amendment—because I've honestly never had to do that before... What exactly does the sales tax look like for the period I missed? Like, using that late date? Does it just pass through the system totally normally?
ruggedcyclist74 ruggedcyclist74 Active Member
193 messages
joined Feb 2009
#626 ·
amberbadger17 said:Actually, this is kind of interesting. I've never really thought about it because I always file my sales tax on time... but what if I actually miss a deadline? Do I just file a zero? And then do an amendment—because I've honestly never had to do that before... What exactly does the sales tax look like for the period I missed? Like, using that late date? Does it just pass through the system totally normally?

Well, I don't usually resort to filing a zero return myself; I typically manage to get everything processed in time. If things get frantic, I'll just quickly run the numbers on a calculator—usually just pulling from the POS system or the ledger—and enter those figures. Then, once I've finalized the month, I either file an amendment or simply carry the difference over into the next reporting period.

An amendment is handled by submitting a corrected sales tax form for that exact same period. You just mark "Amended" clearly at the top of the form and attach a brief explanation detailing why the correction was necessary. Of course, the IRS would expect that explanation to be reasonably sound... 🙂
amberbadger17 amberbadger17 Active Member
190 messages
joined May 2012
#627 ·
thanks! 😁
obviously—everything needs a fancy justification. I’ve learned from this forum: I can't just say I didn't know, instead, it's gotta be there was a clerical error in the records or some other nonsense (just so I can sound super important and brilliant! 😉)
ruggedcyclist74 ruggedcyclist74 Active Member
193 messages
joined Feb 2009
#628 ·
amberbadger17 said:thanks! 😁
obviously—everything needs a fancy justification. I’ve learned from this forum: I can't just say I didn't know, instead, it's gotta be there was a clerical error in the records or some other nonsense (just so I can sound super important and brilliant! 😉)

Even the most diligent workers make mistakes; I haven't met a single soul in this country who hasn't tripped up at some point...
The real trick is having the sense to catch the error and fix it during a review...
It’s just basic logic... 😍
And, of course, you sprinkle in a few high-flown terms that nobody actually understands just to give the whole explanation that necessary air of unearned authority, haha. 😂😂😂

Personally, I find it a bit embarrassing because I don't want to write in my official report that there was an "administrative oversight" when the truth is the client just dropped off their paperwork on the very last day of the deadline... 🙂
yet I can't exactly go around blaming the client... well, I could, but... ahem... 🙂
so now I'm just stuck here, spinning my wheels trying to figure out the best way to handle it... 🙄
Henry Edwards33 Henry Edwards33 RegularOP
678 messages
joined Aug 2015
#629 ·
ruggedcyclist74 said:Considering I’ve already reached the stage where I find myself tapping rhythmically on my keyboard just to stay grounded and dialing the help hotline out of pure reflex, I suspect I’ve officially crossed that line. 😂😂😂

Well, you don't exactly strike me as a terrifying figure. 🙂

That is precisely the problem—there is no "other day"... While I can easily fix my own sales tax filings later, the year-end audits have a hard deadline, and it looks like I'll end up having to bail out my colleagues who haven't quite finished their parts in time...

🤣

You don't exactly strike me as a threat 🙂

That’s what everyone says right up until they see the bloodshot eyes and the look of pure destruction, while I'm simultaneously scanning the room for the nearest sharp object 😳

ruggedcyclist74 said:Well, I don't usually resort to filing a zero return myself; I typically manage to get everything processed in time. If things get frantic, I'll just quickly run the numbers on a calculator—usually just pulling from the POS system or the ledger—and enter those figures. Then, once I've finalized the month, I either file an amendment or simply carry the difference over into the next reporting period.

An amendment is handled by submitting a corrected sales tax form for that exact same period. You just mark "Amended" clearly at the top of the form and attach a brief explanation detailing why the correction was necessary. Of course, the IRS would expect that explanation to be reasonably sound... 🙂

Here in the States, they haven't allowed amended returns for two years now. They just have you settle all discrepancies in the following period. Sure, you can get permission to adjust the base figures if the sales tax doesn't align, but that's about it. Everything else just rolls over into the next filing cycle.
I once filed a return with zeros across the board and nobody even blinked. The paperwork was submitted on time, and as for the actual data? Well, I'll deal with those numbers whenever the universe decides to let me. 🤣
ruggedcyclist74 ruggedcyclist74 Active Member
193 messages
joined Feb 2009
#630 ·
Henry Edwards33 said:🤣

You don't exactly strike me as a threat 🙂

That’s what everyone says right up until they see the bloodshot eyes and the look of pure destruction, while I'm simultaneously scanning the room for the nearest sharp object 😳

Here in the States, they haven't allowed amended returns for two years now. They just have you settle all discrepancies in the following period. Sure, you can get permission to adjust the base figures if the sales tax doesn't align, but that's about it. Everything else just rolls over into the next filing cycle.
I once filed a return with zeros across the board and nobody even blinked. The paperwork was submitted on time, and as for the actual data? Well, I'll deal with those numbers whenever the universe decides to let me. 🤣

But in that scenario, aren't you supposed to be calculating interest on unpaid sales tax for shipments that weren't accounted for on time?????

I haven't heard of a single jurisdiction that refuses to accept corrections... Which part of the US are you operating in, anyway?
Timothy Morgan38 Timothy Morgan38 Active Member
177 messages
joined Mar 2010
#631 ·
Henry Edwards33 said:Pure selfishness. You’ve got plenty, but you won't lift a finger to help anyone else. It’s a pathetic way to live. 🙂

Neggggooooo...
I'm officially done with all this nonsense. I'll be celebrating until Wednesday. 🙂

Man, I could just kill you... I was already completely finished back on March 28th. 🙂)))
Patrick Peterson49 Patrick Peterson49 Active Member
76 messages
joined Sep 2011
#632 ·
ruggedcyclist74 said:Well, there you are. I've been waiting for you. My notes are finally sorted, the public filing is paid for, and everything has been officially submitted. 🙂

Man, I'm just waiting on full power of attorney from the clients so I can file everything online—save them the trip and the fee... honestly, the paperwork isn't even the hard part, usually takes me like two days max...
Kyle Rogers8 Kyle Rogers8 Active Member
58 messages
joined Apr 2012
#633 ·
Henry Edwards33 said:🤣

You don't exactly strike me as a threat 🙂

That’s what everyone says right up until they see the bloodshot eyes and the look of pure destruction, while I'm simultaneously scanning the room for the nearest sharp object 😳

Here in the States, they haven't allowed amended returns for two years now. They just have you settle all discrepancies in the following period. Sure, you can get permission to adjust the base figures if the sales tax doesn't align, but that's about it. Everything else just rolls over into the next filing cycle.
I once filed a return with zeros across the board and nobody even blinked. The paperwork was submitted on time, and as for the actual data? Well, I'll deal with those numbers whenever the universe decides to let me. 🤣

It's more or less the same for me. Though, I wouldn't say I file with zeros—I usually have at least some documentation—but the same people always show up with some late invoice.
And this month I have to file a correction for February; my software won't let me bake the 23% sales tax into March, and I am certainly not doing that manually. 😉
amberbadger17 amberbadger17 Active Member
190 messages
joined May 2012
#634 ·
lili p.;391679Here in the States said:

Hey lili, listen, I totally botched my base amount for two whole months straight—sales tax looked fine, though. I was absolutely terrified and called the IRS, and this lady on the phone tells me "don't sweat it," that I can just fix everything with the next sales tax filing. But wait, if I'm supposed to fix it in the next period, what am I actually doing? Do I enter a reversal for the wrong base amount and then just manually type in the correct one?
Honestly, navigating these things is a nightmare for me because I’m terrible at playing nice with government officials without accidentally offending them... anyway, thanks a million if you have a second to explain this in plain English... cheers!
Raymond Martinez10 Raymond Martinez10 Active Member
236 messages
joined Oct 2009
#635 ·
Look, she gave you solid advice—if you're fine with how the sales tax works, those "insane" two bucks will just be settled through the tax credit.
Also, if you didn't hit the deadline for filing, it just rolls over into the next period. I don't sweat the small stuff regarding timing—they'll just catch the credit in the next cycle. But if we're talking about actual IRS issues (and thanks for asking, because yeah, that happens too), I just record it in the month I actually received it, calculate the interest, and send a formal letter to the LAPD.
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#636 ·
Raymond Martinez10 said:Look, she gave you solid advice—if you're fine with how the sales tax works, those "insane" two bucks will just be settled through the tax credit.
Also, if you didn't hit the deadline for filing, it just rolls over into the next period. I don't sweat the small stuff regarding timing—they'll just catch the credit in the next cycle. But if we're talking about actual IRS issues (and thanks for asking, because yeah, that happens too), I just record it in the month I actually received it, calculate the interest, and send a formal letter to the LAPD.

First off, it’s probably a good thing some of the guys are stepping up—those ladies have gotten so chatty lately, you can barely get a word in edgewise... Second, two bucks?!? Isn't the tolerance limit supposed to be $0.33? With my accountants, anything up to $0.33 is totally fine; their software doesn't even flag it. And honestly, my sales tax used to be off by hundreds of dollars, and they never once breathed a word to me. Mistakes happen, so what? I missed a line on an invoice with zero tax, or I forgot this or that—years ago, they just told me, "Don't sweat it, the sales tax adjustment is there specifically to fix these things."

But here's the real question: how is it possible to NOT have all your IRA documentation ready?!? It feels a little silly to suggest I wouldn't have everything squared away. If someone sends you an IRA one month and then follows up a few days later, shouldn't you just give them a heads-up that it doesn't work that way?? Or are we just enabling laziness now? I mean, what kind of business owner can't manage to file an IRA within a month of finishing a job? Sure, maybe some struggle, but then you should teach them, "Excuse me—but please change the date to next month, because this period is CLOSED." That’s why we have until the end of the FOLLOWING month; it's more than enough time. It's high time your department starts following this new trend of stricter laws and better discipline, because it looks like some people have gotten way too relaxed.
ruggedcyclist74 ruggedcyclist74 Active Member
193 messages
joined Feb 2009
#637 ·
Jessica Grant56, honestly, I don't think any of us women could outtalk you if we actually tried 😂😂😂

As for my situation, about half of them are already finished and printed—they're drafted immediately—it's just that nobody's bothered to drop them off yet... When you're dealing with clients who are lazy, careless, or practically illiterate when it comes to using a fax machine or the internet, it’s hardly a shock... That said, if they pay their bills on time and in full, you can't exactly go picking fights with them over it...
ruggedcyclist74 ruggedcyclist74 Active Member
193 messages
joined Feb 2009
#638 ·
And yes, I’m fairly certain any other lady browsing this forum would find themselves nodding in agreement with me here 😂😂😂
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#639 ·
ruggedcyclist74 said:Jessica Grant56, honestly, I don't think any of us women could outtalk you if we actually tried 😂😂😂

As for my situation, about half of them are already finished and printed—they're drafted immediately—it's just that nobody's bothered to drop them off yet... When you're dealing with clients who are lazy, careless, or practically illiterate when it comes to using a fax machine or the internet, it’s hardly a shock... That said, if they pay their bills on time and in full, you can't exactly go picking fights with them over it...

No way, I actually tried to compete with you guys, but there's just no chance... nature decided this one, and let's face it, the natural order of things is pretty set in stone. It’s not a coincidence that hens cluck at every egg while roosters only crow when they feel like it, right?!?

I get it... I deal with the exact same issues, just in my line of work. Like when you have a five-star hotel that looks gorgeous on the surface, but on a technical level, it’s an absolute disaster—then every single repair becomes a "waste of money" to them. But then they start whining the second something breaks, even after we've successfully handled a million operations. You really have two choices: either cut them loose entirely, or take the paycheck and tell them exactly what they need to hear—just maybe wrap it up in a little bit of sugar first... And then you run into that whole: $50 mess?!? Good grief... Seriously. And a double room is like 250 bucks... I might actually lose my mind if I have to stay over there with my wife!! (not that I've lost it, though). When it's an overseas owner who thinks they're one of us, they can be even worse than the worst of the lot... I mean, if you aren't going to hold your own, who will?

And what about the ladies when they need to gang up on an enemy?? Well... they all act as one! One voice! I see the same thing back home, so I know how it goes. We're in the minority, so we just use our best weapon: we vanish, as soon as they give us the opening.
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#640 ·
Hey, anyone around? Or is everyone already tucked in for the night? I can't quite remember—how am I supposed to record payments when the total amount paid is already entered into the sales tax field?? It always slips my mind...

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