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What exactly is "homophobia"?

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Participants Brandon Rivera2Gary Patelsilverotter2Ashley Young4Hannah Allen5Ryan Wood98driftingbadger5Alexander Garcia5wearyorca94Sophia Murphy37Jeremy Young19Edward Wilson82placidwolf27Douglas Nelson57Lisa Hernandez3Richard Moore53casualharbor9Anthony Garcia10Emily Robinson4nimblegardener7Anthony Carter4Henry Williamsplacidjackal36Daniel Wilson5 …
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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#181 ·
Brandon Rivera2 said:And honestly, who would actually care if someone shoved a burger up their nose?

Honestly, I guess it shouldn't matter to me if someone decides to shove sliders up their OWN nose.🙄
driftingbadger5 driftingbadger5 Member
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#182 ·
Edward Wilson82 said:"Homophobia" is just a lazy, unprofessional label used for people who feel some level of aversion toward homosexuals. It’s an instinctive reaction—a gut feeling regarding what many see as an unnatural lifestyle. Look, people have a natural revulsion toward things like necrophilia, incest, or pedophilia. By that same logic, someone could try calling a normal person's disgust toward those acts "necrophobia" or "incestophobia"—but we all know that's nonsense. A mentally healthy person is naturally going to recoil from those deviations.

So, yeah, the term "homophobia" is a total fabrication; it has zero connection to the actual medical definition of a phobia. In clinical terms, a specific phobia is an irrational, persistent fear triggered by an object or situation that isn't actually dangerous. Exposure causes intense anxiety or an overwhelming urge to flee. These symptoms can seriously mess with a person's ability to function daily. Most adults with a real phobia realize their fear is irrational, yet they still can't control it.

When facing a true phobia, you get hit with physical symptoms—sweaty palms, flushing, racing heart, chest pains, shortness of breath, trembling, or a shaky voice. It's obvious to anyone paying attention that the people being slapped with the "homophobe" label aren't experiencing any of this clinical symptomatology. They don't fit the definition.

Originally, "homophobia" was psychiatric jargon used to describe an individual's fear of their own homosexual inclinations. But then activists hijacked the term and rebranded it to mean any negative attitude or "fear" directed at homosexuals. It’s a rhetorical weapon designed to discredit and humiliate anyone standing against homosexual behavior or its legalization.

The problem is that they don't distinguish between different types of opposition. Sure, activists will reserve the "homophobe" tag for violent bigots—like skinheads—to frame them as the true villains. But in everyday conversation, they’ll pin that label on anyone who thinks homosexual behavior is wrong, abnormal, or harmful. If these activists actually had a leg to stand on, they’d be able to explain the difference between a hateful bigot and someone holding a moral opposition to homosexuality.

Furthermore, the term "homophobia" frames opposition to homosexuality as a mental illness. This is a sweet deal for activists since homosexuality was removed from the DSM in 1973. Now, they get to claim they are the healthy ones, while anyone disagreeing with them is labeled mentally unstable. Obviously, changing a line in a manual doesn't fix a disorder, nor does it make someone else crazy.

Third, the term is used as a semantic substitute for "racism." The goal is to convince the public that opposing homosexuality is identical to racial prejudice. All these tactics serve one purpose: to silence and shame opponents. If you speak out against the lifestyle, the parades, or the legal shifts, you're immediately branded as either mentally ill or a bigot.

Bottom line: "homophobia" is a ridiculous concept cooked up by activists to use as a blunt instrument against anyone who disagrees with them.

Look, sorry, but we don't do that pseudo-intellectual nonsense on this sub. Besides, you aren't even actually participating in the debate since you clearly haven't read what's already been posted. For example,
I'll quote the definition of homophobia straight from one of the top psychology textbooks out there:
Psychology basics (Magill's choice).
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By 1974, the American Psychiatric Association had officially decided that being gay isn't a mental illness.
Unlike the early 20th-century studies that focused solely on psychiatric patients or convicts, subsequent research looking at a
broad sample of the general population proved that people with a homosexual orientation aren't any more prone to
mental health issues than anyone else.
Even with all this hard science, plenty of heterosexuals (particularly men) still
hold onto negative attitudes regarding homosexuality. This whole thing is known as
homophobia. A lot of this fear, revulsion, and hate stems from the totally false assumption that gay people are predators.
The reality is, over 90 percent of pedophiles are actually heterosexual.
Brandon Rivera2 Brandon Rivera2 Active MemberOP
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#183 ·
Lisa Hernandez3 said:If you're so certain, how can you claim you don't have the answer either?

I mean, I don't strictly "know," it's more just what I'm thinking...
Lisa Hernandez3 Lisa Hernandez3 Active Member
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#184 ·
Brandon Rivera2 said:I mean, I don't strictly "know," it's more just what I'm thinking...

But do you actually know why you feel that way?
I mean, what specifically about the answers didn't sit right with you?
Brandon Rivera2 Brandon Rivera2 Active MemberOP
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#185 ·
Ryan Wood98 said:Honestly, I guess it shouldn't matter to me if someone decides to shove sliders up their OWN nose.🙄

But doing that is gonna make everyone watching pretty disgusted, right?
placidwolf27 placidwolf27 Active Member
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#186 ·
I suspect this whole debate over burgers might actually hold the answer we're looking for...

If eating a burger is an absolute affront to your sensibilities, yet someone else can enjoy one without a second thought, there has to be a fundamental reason for that discrepancy.

Either everyone else is some sort of culinary barbarian—which seems unlikely—or there is something specific about you that makes the sight of a burger so unsettling.
And look, that’s perfectly fine; nobody is going to call the police on your preferences. But you really ought to sit down and reflect on why it bothers you so deeply to see another person simply enjoying their meal.

Furthermore, is it truly necessary to lash out at such a person?
To harass them...
Or to subject them to any kind of verbal or physical hostility?

Is it all happening just because it irritates you?

Give it some actual thought...
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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#187 ·
Brandon Rivera2 said:I mean, I don't strictly "know," it's more just what I'm thinking...

Didn't Ratko Milić, also known as Coca-Cola, once say "to be or not to be"?
Henry Williams Henry Williams Member
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#188 ·
Ryan Wood98 said:So, you suffer from some kind of disorder that makes it impossible for you to turn your head?

Do you also have a condition that keeps you from closing your eyes?

Man, you really have some serious issues.

Why on earth would he close his eyes or turn his head? 😕I mean, a guy should be able to walk down the street in Chicago without having to deal with constant shocks. It’s like if I decided to strip naked and dance right in front of you on the sidewalk—you’d lose your mind! And then if I told you, "Hey, just close your eyes and pretend I'm not here," *that* would actually be the crazy behavior.
The thought of doing something that ridiculous never even crossed my mind.
Brandon Rivera2 Brandon Rivera2 Active MemberOP
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#189 ·
Lisa Hernandez3 said:But do you actually know why you feel that way?
I mean, what specifically about the answers didn't sit right with you?

I guess "homophobia" is just such a massive umbrella term at this point... it covers everything from violent skinheads looking for a fight to religious zealots, all the way down to those polite, suburban haters just sitting on their couches watching the news...
placidwolf27 placidwolf27 Active Member
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#190 ·
Henry Williams said:Why on earth would he close his eyes or turn his head? 😕I mean, a guy should be able to walk down the street in Chicago without having to deal with constant shocks. It’s like if I decided to strip naked and dance right in front of you on the sidewalk—you’d lose your mind! And then if I told you, "Hey, just close your eyes and pretend I'm not here," *that* would actually be the crazy behavior.
The thought of doing something that ridiculous never even crossed my mind.

Are you really that repulsive and deformed that someone can't even look at you naked without having to avert their gaze and act like you don't exist?
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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#191 ·
Brandon Rivera2 said:But doing that is gonna make everyone watching pretty disgusted, right?

I suppose people will eventually just stop paying him any attention, unless, of course, they find his behavior particularly entertaining. 🙄 I don't think anyone would actually attack him because of it.
driftingbadger5 driftingbadger5 Member
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#192 ·
You don't get privacy in public. Period. I can snap your picture whenever I feel like it and blast it online because, legally, anyone can photograph anyone else in a public space. All you people making out and getting handsy—doesn't matter if you're straight, gay, bi, lesbian, or asexual—you’re the ones asking for it.

Personally, watching a guy and a girl make out in public grossed me out, or two guys doing it, but when it's two girls? That's actually cute.

😉 Keep your junk in your pants until you're home. 😂
Henry Williams Henry Williams Member
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#193 ·
placidwolf27 said:Are you really that repulsive and deformed that someone can't even look at you naked without having to avert their gaze and act like you don't exist?

Do you actually know how to have a civil conversation? What kind of nonsense is this? 👎
placidjackal36 placidjackal36 Active Member
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#194 ·
It’s actually wild how you guys managed to fall for such an obvious troll thread. Honestly, don't make me question your collective IQ here. That account was clearly set up just to mess with people on this forum. Have any of you even seen this image before?
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Some things are just painfully obvious.
Brandon Rivera2 Brandon Rivera2 Active MemberOP
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#195 ·
placidwolf27 said:I suspect this whole debate over burgers might actually hold the answer we're looking for...

If eating a burger is an absolute affront to your sensibilities, yet someone else can enjoy one without a second thought, there has to be a fundamental reason for that discrepancy.

Either everyone else is some sort of culinary barbarian—which seems unlikely—or there is something specific about you that makes the sight of a burger so unsettling.
And look, that’s perfectly fine; nobody is going to call the police on your preferences. But you really ought to sit down and reflect on why it bothers you so deeply to see another person simply enjoying their meal.

Furthermore, is it truly necessary to lash out at such a person?
To harass them...
Or to subject them to any kind of verbal or physical hostility?

Is it all happening just because it irritates you?

Give it some actual thought...

Some things only look bad when you take them out of context. Eating a burger at a restaurant where it's meant to be eaten isn't bothering anyone...
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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#196 ·
Henry Williams said:Why on earth would he close his eyes or turn his head? 😕I mean, a guy should be able to walk down the street in Chicago without having to deal with constant shocks. It’s like if I decided to strip naked and dance right in front of you on the sidewalk—you’d lose your mind! And then if I told you, "Hey, just close your eyes and pretend I'm not here," *that* would actually be the crazy behavior.
The thought of doing something that ridiculous never even crossed my mind.

Would it never occur to you to hug and kiss your own girlfriend?

WOW, you must be called "Romeo"🙄
casualharbor9 casualharbor9 Active Member
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#197 ·
Lisa Hernandez3 said:If these old-timers—these true experts and pros—keep this up,
we might as well just rename the thread to "The Mysterious John and his funny little PDF: It's someone else's problem, so trolling is fair game."

... it was fun regardless... nice work, Ryan Wood98! 😂
Gary Patel Gary Patel Active Member
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#198 ·
nimblegardener7 said:The point was completely missed. I said more people are becoming tolerant or acting indifferent toward homosexuality because they mimic what they see—watching perversions and becoming perverse themselves. But not everyone becomes gay; it depends on the inclination a person already has. It’s like how not everyone with a genetic predisposition becomes gay (for example, there aren't any among Orthodox Jews).

That still doesn't explain what your actual problem is. Like, specifically with lesbians?
It's just obvious you don't know anyone who isn't heterosexual (though you probably do, maybe you just don't realize they're gay since people usually hide it).

And if it works that way, why don't all gay people become straight when we're surrounded by so much straight material? You'd think it worked both ways, but clearly it doesn't; I guess they're resistant.

I've already laid out my views in detail in previous posts, so I won't repeat myself. And yes, I am quite familiar with the homosexual population, for private reasons.

Alex Miller said:Any guy acting out in public—any kind of intimate contact between men, or women with women—is an act of VIOLENCE against a normal person. They are being FORCED (read that again—FORCED, which means VIOLENCE) to witness it. Violence can hit you through your eyes, your ears, or even touch—it’s DISGUSTING! It violates the sensibilities of a normal man, damaging his mental state and peace of mind. It causes shock, stress, and genuine suffering to a person who DOESN'T want to see this, yet these people or the lawmakers are FORCING them—essentially RAPING them—into having to watch it!

There's more!🙏
🤣🤣
Please, don't lock this thread.🙏
Daniel Wilson5 Daniel Wilson5 Active Member
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#199 ·
Heh, more homophobia... and I wasn't even the one who started this thread. Honestly, serves them right!
Jerry Martinez5 Jerry Martinez5 Regular
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#200 ·
Is this a thread about homophobia or just being weirdly anti-burger? 🤔

I’m officially opening nominations for a new topic title! 🙂

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