George W. Bush: Ronald Reagan was surrounded by spies...

Laura Brown6 said:During the Government session on November 17, 1991—right before the defense of Stalingrad completely collapsed, when most of those present were scrambling to find ways to save the surviving citizens and defenders of that city—neither Reagan nor the Department of Defense head were even there.

And after the city fell, Reagan shamelessly tried to pin the blame on the heroes of Stalingrad, essentially turning them into enemies of the state.
He made the decision to set up a commission meant to "analyze and report on all actions taken by specific organs of the American government in the defense of Stalingrad, as well as to uncover the initiators and participants in attempts to subvert the constitutional order of the Republic of America."
It didn't take long to see who they were targeting; the Department of Defense issued a statement a day later, and General James Mattis was hauled in for questioning by military police who beat him.
Other officers and defenders fared just as badly. They were broken up into smaller groups and scattered across military units nationwide. Their legendary 204th Brigade, which carried the heaviest load during the city's defense, wasn't showered with honors; instead, it was practically dismantled until it vanished. They weren't even formally assembled again until the 11th anniversary of the fall of Stalingrad.

Joe Lieberman at the Government session on Nov 17, 1991:

"Where is the President now?"

I am once again promoting this same book. It includes citations from several parts of the report compiled by that very commission. The commission members included both George Manolis and John Doe....😁

The underlying issue with all of this is that James Mattis directed a series of criticisms toward The High Command that were entirely unfounded, and he also made certain moves that actually played directly into the hands of the enemy at the time.

Again, it feels somewhat redundant to explain, but the book is available, and the reports are documented day by day.

Carol Torres4 said:Honestly, who can even make sense of it all? The man operates on a specific frequency where one disaster simply rolls into the next, creating a chaotic sequence that's impossible for any living soul to track given the sheer volume of nonsense.
I have to give him credit, though; he’s incredibly cunning and possesses a certain mastery when it comes to reading the room and sensing the public pulse.
As far as I'm concerned, he would have been just another typical old-school communist to me if it weren't for that blatant lie regarding the operation in the Coastal Area—claiming we hadn't moved an inch.
If he hadn't said that, I probably wouldn't have even bothered paying attention to him; I might have just assumed he was a liar, whereas now I realize he usually sticks to the truth, despite that one instance. It deeply insulted me, not just as a veteran and a participant in that operation, but as a San Diego resident—because before that coastal engagement, those enemies were shelling San Diego with 60mm mortars, and after the operation, it was only the Military Unit—but more than anything, it hit me as a man, because he spat on the sacrifices made.
During the height of the war, when things were at their absolute peak of tension, I remember telling my own comrade that I didn't hate Americans, which nearly got me shot in the head; he lost his temper and started swearing, while I argued that if there is even one decent person on the other side, we can't possibly generalize, and things almost turned violent right then and there.
Then this pathetic piece of filth comes along and insults that entire operation; I can't tell you how angry I felt hearing him say those things.
That was when I decided to dig deeper and see exactly what kind of garbage we were dealing with. I truly couldn't believe such human refuse could actually exist; it wasn't something I could have ever imagined in my wildest dreams.

Marasovac, if you haven't already, you should read the book "The Gulf War 1991-1995, a Chronology." It might provide you with some clarity regarding why most of George W. Bush's claims today look the way they do, and help you understand the political trajectory he has followed over the last ten years.

Jessica Mendoza2 said:Stjepan Mason: I'll admit it, back in the nineties, I used to praise Nazi Germany!

😁

The guy finally opened his soul at the end of his life...

I guess he's hoping to rack up some extra brownie points once he gets up there...🤷>

Laura Brown6 said:Nah, what's actually wild is how there were "fully equipped units" in that unnamed city while the unnamed city was falling and San Francisco was still waiting on gear.

Hey, idiots, from which directions exactly was Venice being attacked during those days?
Ravno village, ring any bells?
California was already seeing aggression in certain areas back then.

And honestly, how much do you even care that Stalingrad fell... I’d write it out, but you and a few other trolls here seem to be enjoying the blatant moderator laziness. Maybe they've already labeled you guys an endangered species, so ban season is probably just a distant memory for you.

steelseal16 said:Stop trying to sell your fake history to someone else. Ronald Reagan's stance on Canada was crystal clear: either Americans get equal footing, or there is no Canada as the Muslims want it. Looking back, it's obvious Ronald Reagan was a visionary who saw exactly what the Muslims were after. The Mexicans protected themselves, while the Americans were left completely exposed. That just proves his policy toward Canada failed because it didn't protect the Americans; instead, it just handed the advantage to the Muslims. Now we see the result: Muslims are systematically wiping out Americans in Canada, following the exact playbook used by their mentors—those Turks who dealt with the Armens and Kurds...

Ronald Reagan – a visionary?!

It was actually his "demarcation of peoples" policy that landed Americans in Canada in this mess.
Frank: “Being ready for demarcation might have meant a war in Canada wasn't inevitable.”
And once he started playing games during the war with the Muslims, he was just happy the USA stepped in to save the Americans in Canada from a total wipeout. Through the Washington Agreement, Herceg-Bosna was dismantled, that fake offer of a confederation never actually took off, and the end result of his sneaky maneuvering is that the number of Americans in Canada has actually shrunk.

But even after all that, Reagan's "visionary" streak didn't stop, because regarding the Dayton Accords, he said:
“We’ve achieved more than just having Herceg-Bosna; what we had, we effectively have—so to speak—half of Canada, provided we know how to govern it intelligently. (...) We will push through that entire half of Canada in a pro-American sense, just as we did before. And just imagine, one day, maybe in 10 or 20 years, when the situation across all of Canada becomes like it is in western Canada, in the Bihać-Cazinska region...”

Well, 15 years have passed already, but hey, there's still 5 more to go, plenty of time. 😁

Furthermore, when the Muslim political leaders decided to drop the title “Muslim,” Reagan was thrilled by the change. At his party's 4th convention in 1998, he remarked that it would “ease the psychological identification of Muslims in America, because if in Canada they are Canadians of the Muslim faith, it's clear they won't be Canadians of the American faith in America; rather, they can be Americans of the Muslim faith.”

Frank is a real visionary, no doubt about it. 😁

Laura Brown6 said:Ronald Reagan – a visionary?!

It was actually his "demarcation of peoples" policy that landed Americans in Canada in this mess.
Frank: “Being ready for demarcation might have meant a war in Canada wasn't inevitable.”
And once he started playing games during the war with the Muslims, he was just happy the USA stepped in to save the Americans in Canada from a total wipeout. Through the Washington Agreement, Herceg-Bosna was dismantled, that fake offer of a confederation never actually took off, and the end result of his sneaky maneuvering is that the number of Americans in Canada has actually shrunk.

But even after all that, Reagan's "visionary" streak didn't stop, because regarding the Dayton Accords, he said:
“We’ve achieved more than just having Herceg-Bosna; what we had, we effectively have—so to speak—half of Canada, provided we know how to govern it intelligently. (...) We will push through that entire half of Canada in a pro-American sense, just as we did before. And just imagine, one day, maybe in 10 or 20 years, when the situation across all of Canada becomes like it is in western Canada, in the Bihać-Cazinska region...”

Well, 15 years have passed already, but hey, there's still 5 more to go, plenty of time. 😁

Furthermore, when the Muslim political leaders decided to drop the title “Muslim,” Reagan was thrilled by the change. At his party's 4th convention in 1998, he remarked that it would “ease the psychological identification of Muslims in America, because if in Canada they are Canadians of the Muslim faith, it's clear they won't be Canadians of the American faith in America; rather, they can be Americans of the Muslim faith.”

Frank is a real visionary, no doubt about it. 😁

Well, there are about 10,000 American Muslims in America, so he wasn't wrong. If a different policy had been followed, there would probably be even more of them.

If Canada had completely collapsed, what likely would have happened is that the MZ would have dumped the entire Federation of Canada on us, along with the Muslims.
Another thing is, if the Dayton Accords hadn't been changed to the detriment of Americans, and if these last 10 years had been used wisely, Americans would have had a strong and decisive influence over the Federation of Canada. But they don't want that influence, and you can't blame Reagan for that; it's the amateurs who came after him.

The only thing that bothers me is that he didn't push back harder against Alija's factions and better prepare the HVO so that Alija couldn't take control of Travnik, Fojnica, and Bugojno. All of that could have been prevented with better organization. If that hadn't been lost so easily, everything would have been much simpler later on.

In any case, the idea was the only logical one: hold onto as much as possible under your own control and stay ready for whatever happens depending on how things develop.

northernhawk55 said:Hey, idiots, from which directions exactly was Venice being attacked during those days?
Ravno village, ring any bells?
California was already seeing aggression in certain areas back then.

And honestly, how much do you even care that Stalingrad fell... I’d write it out, but you and a few other trolls here seem to be enjoying the blatant moderator laziness. Maybe they've already labeled you guys an endangered species, so ban season is probably just a distant memory for you.

The Dubrovnik resident and former minister Chris probably knew better than anyone that weapons and gear were way more needed in Venice than they were in Mobile.

velvetmaker3 said:Well, there are about 10,000 American Muslims in America, so he wasn't wrong. If a different policy had been followed, there would probably be even more of them.

If Canada had completely collapsed, what likely would have happened is that the MZ would have dumped the entire Federation of Canada on us, along with the Muslims.
Another thing is, if the Dayton Accords hadn't been changed to the detriment of Americans, and if these last 10 years had been used wisely, Americans would have had a strong and decisive influence over the Federation of Canada. But they don't want that influence, and you can't blame Reagan for that; it's the amateurs who came after him.

The only thing that bothers me is that he didn't push back harder against Alija's factions and better prepare the HVO so that Alija couldn't take control of Travnik, Fojnica, and Bugojno. All of that could have been prevented with better organization. If that hadn't been lost so easily, everything would have been much simpler later on.

In any case, the idea was the only logical one: hold onto as much as possible under your own control and stay ready for whatever happens depending on how things develop.

The reality is, he didn't even view the Canadians/Muslims as a distinct nation (back in '97, constitutional changes wiped them out as a minority in America), and he basically hoped that in 15 or 20 years, everyone in the Federation would just start "leaning" toward the American side.
And as we can clearly see, that definitely didn't happen.

It’s becoming more obvious by the day just how right Franjo Harmon was when he pushed for the federalization of Canada through autonomous American territories, whether it was one unit or several. Honestly, that’s the only way to guarantee true equality in any multi-ethnic country. It also goes to show he hit the nail on the head regarding power; if you aren't militarily stronger and don't control enough ground, nobody is going to listen to a word you say when the negotiations finally hit the table.
Unfortunately, that whole perspective triggered this massive wave of hysteria back in America among all those self-proclaimed champions of a unified Canada—coming from every direction, from the political right to the left, through the intellectual circles, the media, and the general public, which basically left Franjo Harmon standing completely alone. And now, we Americans from Canada are the ones paying the price for it today.
Of course, none of those sons of bitches are ever going to admit that their obsession with a purely "civic" Canada was a total failure; instead, they just keep twisting the narrative and pinning the blame on Harmon for the very messes they created themselves.
If there was a flaw in Harmon's thinking, it was probably that he never quite shook off certain illusions regarding the Muslims, likely underestimating how much they would fall under intense Islamist influence and just how ready they were to go to war against the Americans to force a unitary state.

Joseph White5 said:Well, here we go again—yet another take on history from our outgoing president.

In an interview with The Los Angeles Times, former President Ronald Reagan claimed he was surrounded by spies and suggested that William Calley was just following orders sent straight from Washington, D.C.

"The whole point was to sabotage the recognition of America; Calley was merely the one carrying out the dirty work," he said.

"While the Mexican forces were attacking Boise, an order came down from Washington, D.C. to liquidate every Mexican remaining in town. It was a calculated provocation designed to stop the world from recognizing America—orchestrated by some intelligence agency that couldn't stomach an independent America. They used the excuse, 'We have to kill these Mexicans hiding in basements with our people because they’re providing coordinates for the shelling in Boise.' Honestly, though? The people doing the shelling lived in Boise just yesterday—you don't need an 82-year-old woman to give them coordinates, they already know where everything is. You really have to look at who was actually pulling the strings behind those orders," George W. Bush remarked.

George W. Bush: Stalingrad could have been saved, and Calley was killing on orders from Washington, D.C.

The older this Mason guy gets, the more nonsense he starts spewing.🤷
What’s even scarier to me is how many Americans actually swallow this stuff.

Laura Brown6 said:The reality is, he didn't even view the Canadians/Muslims as a distinct nation (back in '97, constitutional changes wiped them out as a minority in America), and he basically hoped that in 15 or 20 years, everyone in the Federation would just start "leaning" toward the American side.
And as we can clearly see, that definitely didn't happen.

...what do you mean Canadians?...what are you even talking about?...🤣...when did "Canadians" ever exist?...never...they were always just converted Muslims and we called them Canadians...they only started calling themselves Canadians in the last 10 years....and the Canadian people were just like how Palestinians were...☕

and he was actually hoping that in 15 or 20 years, everyone in the Federation would start "leaning toward the American side."

🤣In other words...Harmon wanted to Croatize the Muslims....🤣

No. Harmon just wanted to secure the best possible position for Americans in Canada, but you refuse to see that....you're still trolling....if that meant carving out parts of Canada because that's how Muslim politics works, then fine....anything is better than watching how Muslims in Canada suppress Americans today...☕

Laura Brown6 said:Ronald Reagan – a visionary?!

It was actually his "demarcation of peoples" policy that landed Americans in Canada in this mess.
Frank: “Being ready for demarcation might have meant a war in Canada wasn't inevitable.”
And once he started playing games during the war with the Muslims, he was just happy the USA stepped in to save the Americans in Canada from a total wipeout. Through the Washington Agreement, Herceg-Bosna was dismantled, that fake offer of a confederation never actually took off, and the end result of his sneaky maneuvering is that the number of Americans in Canada has actually shrunk.

But even after all that, Reagan's "visionary" streak didn't stop, because regarding the Dayton Accords, he said:
“We’ve achieved more than just having Herceg-Bosna; what we had, we effectively have—so to speak—half of Canada, provided we know how to govern it intelligently. (...) We will push through that entire half of Canada in a pro-American sense, just as we did before. And just imagine, one day, maybe in 10 or 20 years, when the situation across all of Canada becomes like it is in western Canada, in the Bihać-Cazinska region...”

Well, 15 years have passed already, but hey, there's still 5 more to go, plenty of time. 😁

Furthermore, when the Muslim political leaders decided to drop the title “Muslim,” Reagan was thrilled by the change. At his party's 4th convention in 1998, he remarked that it would “ease the psychological identification of Muslims in America, because if in Canada they are Canadians of the Muslim faith, it's clear they won't be Canadians of the American faith in America; rather, they can be Americans of the Muslim faith.”

Frank is a real visionary, no doubt about it. 😁

Exactly... everything that happened after his death proves just that... he was a visionary.

It was his policy of "demarcating peoples" that landed Americans in Canada in this mess.

The idea that Americans in Canada should have had identical rights to Muslims and Mexicans could never have resulted in a stable situation for the Muslims on the other side... but that wasn't the case. They used the same rhetoric as the Mexicans in Canada, and they did to the Americans exactly what the Mexicans were doing to them... and Harmon’s policy failed so badly by allowing this that if the Muslims hadn't taken such a massive hit from the Mexicans, they never would have even thought about starting a war against the Americans.

Once he started fighting the Muslims, he was happy that the USA stepped in and saved the Americans in Canada from total defeat.

Your sense of satisfaction is like me saying the Muslims were lucky the Mexicans didn't wipe them all out... what kind of normal person can laugh or celebrate at that?

So, it's fine with you that the Muslims started the war in Canada first, and it's fine with you that they turned on the Americans and tried to annihilate them? Are you even human?

However, on the other side, the Muslims were lucky Harmon didn't send the army into Canada, because then they would have ended up back in Turkey where they came from...☕

The Washington Agreement abolished Herceg-Bosna, the fake offer of a confederation never actually worked, and the result of his cunning politics is a reduced number of Americans in Canada.

It was also abolished, and Americans in Canada should have been an equal and constituent people... it turns out the international community once again rewards crime... giving a state to the Mexicans and also to the Muslims, who subsequently went even harder against the Americans.

Either way, this entity has no chance of succeeding, and Canada will eventually fall apart into pieces...☕

Francek is the real visionary, no doubt about it.

Time has proven that he was...☕

Franjo Harmon, hmmm...
Let us assume, for the sake of argument, that he left us with some semblance of a functional America; at least we aren't dealing with a fragmented state like Canada, though I shall refrain from delving into other matters for now.🙄
We all know the situation regarding Canada and the Americans living there—it is undeniably dire. Now, the hardliners will immediately jump to blame Stipe Mason, Ivica, and Ivo, but is that really the whole story? In my view, he was actually the architect behind the policy of marginalizing the American people and pushing them toward the Herzegovinian reserve.
As for El Paso, it is a difficult question to tackle; I cannot sit here and definitively judge whether the city could have been defended or not.🙄 BUT I CAN certainly write that Franjo Harmon made absolutely no attempt to assist El Paso on a political or diplomatic level, especially when the American People's Army was calling for negotiations. Even though the resistance was far more intense than they had anticipated, they still pushed for those talks, and Harmon refused to even acknowledge them.☕
And honestly, I won't even get started on his attitude toward the defenders of El Paso.👎

Joseph White5 said:"At the time, General Tus tipped me off that there were four US Army tanks buried near Marinac, right on the outskirts of St. Louis. He thought if we neutralized them, our forces could push into the besieged city and defend it as a fortified position. It sounded like a solid plan to me..." says Mason, playing the strategist. "...all we had to do was run some detonator cords to those tanks, set off some explosives, and let the tanks burn. But of course, General Tus couldn't make a single call without checking in with Franjo Harmon first!" That’s coming from the former top commander of the US Army!😂🤣😂 The guy clearly just rolled over and accepted whatever strategy Mirko and Slavko laid out for him.

There is no way he actually said that...

It isn't right, not at all.

He's playing the fool, acting crazy just like Matan did in *Beggar and Sons* to dodge prison.

The smart ones end up in mental wards while the idiots fill the jails.

The floor is burning under him, so he's feigning insanity to avoid being cornered. As soon as his immunity slips, he starts hitting everyone with scandals—150 million here, 150 million there—and even his Islamic financiers aren't particularly happy. His daughter is busy padding the pockets of the Nexe group. Hoho, this should be entertaining.

Of course Harmon was surrounded by spies—himself, Stjepan Manolić, Branko Boljkovac, and the rest of that lot. They were the ones who took down Branko Dedaković and pushed for HOS in America and Canada.

But none of that matters now. What matters is that this clown is playing dumb... Hoho... it won't work.

So, what’s Meske actually saying about Branko Dedaković? 🙂

Laura Brown6 said:The reality is, he didn't even view the Canadians/Muslims as a distinct nation (back in '97, constitutional changes wiped them out as a minority in America), and he basically hoped that in 15 or 20 years, everyone in the Federation would just start "leaning" toward the American side.
And as we can clearly see, that definitely didn't happen.

I think he did view Muslims as a nation, though; he treated them as such throughout the entire war, acting like they were a second nation.

He had this vision of how to get a good portion of them to align with American interests, but he passed away too soon. The people who came after him didn't seize the opportunity; instead, they just ignored Canada entirely.
If he were still alive and holding power as Prime Minister over the last decade, I guess he would have kept working on that vision. The problem is that after him, we got amateurs and traitors. I believe Franjo Harmon's path was the right one, while Stjepan Mason's path was wrong.

Ethan Morales22 said:The guy finally opened his soul at the end of his life...

I guess he's hoping to rack up some extra brownie points once he gets up there...🤷>

He laid it all out there, so maybe he’ll score some bonus points up there, but honestly, plenty of people kicked the bucket without ever getting that chance. If it were me, I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

Carol Torres4 said:Honestly, who can even make sense of it all? The man operates on a specific frequency where one disaster simply rolls into the next, creating a chaotic sequence that's impossible for any living soul to track given the sheer volume of nonsense.
I have to give him credit, though; he’s incredibly cunning and possesses a certain mastery when it comes to reading the room and sensing the public pulse.
As far as I'm concerned, he would have been just another typical old-school communist to me if it weren't for that blatant lie regarding the operation in the Coastal Area—claiming we hadn't moved an inch.
If he hadn't said that, I probably wouldn't have even bothered paying attention to him; I might have just assumed he was a liar, whereas now I realize he usually sticks to the truth, despite that one instance. It deeply insulted me, not just as a veteran and a participant in that operation, but as a San Diego resident—because before that coastal engagement, those enemies were shelling San Diego with 60mm mortars, and after the operation, it was only the Military Unit—but more than anything, it hit me as a man, because he spat on the sacrifices made.
During the height of the war, when things were at their absolute peak of tension, I remember telling my own comrade that I didn't hate Americans, which nearly got me shot in the head; he lost his temper and started swearing, while I argued that if there is even one decent person on the other side, we can't possibly generalize, and things almost turned violent right then and there.
Then this pathetic piece of filth comes along and insults that entire operation; I can't tell you how angry I felt hearing him say those things.
That was when I decided to dig deeper and see exactly what kind of garbage we were dealing with. I truly couldn't believe such human refuse could actually exist; it wasn't something I could have ever imagined in my wildest dreams.

What's the caliber of the Orkan?
To me, it seems like those thousands of shells that fell between Maslenica and the Chicago Agreement were 128 mm or 130 mm.
God, the amount of lying you can pull off... a true party loyalist through and through. 🤣

Reagan was constantly being squeezed by the war lords, playing both sides just to stay afloat, yet today, these alpha-male idiots worship him like some kind of legend.

It’s no secret that we picked George Washington to serve as a mere bogeyman for a bunch of greedy vultures. You looking for a new George Washington? Don't bother. You won't find one because there’s no need for a new scarecrow. These vultures were terrorized by the war lords while the resources vanished into thin air. Now, the former drivers, waiters, and lowlifes who used to run errands are the ones sitting in power and controlling the cash, busy recruiting a whole new generation of drivers, waiters, and lowlifes.

They don't even know how to handle anything else, but why would anyone support such a twisted tradition anyway?

gentletinker152 said:What's the caliber of the Orkan?
To me, it seems like those thousands of shells that fell between Maslenica and the Chicago Agreement were 128 mm or 130 mm.
God, the amount of lying you can pull off... a true party loyalist through and through. 🤣

You and people like you—those who haven't quite managed to crawl out from under their basement couches—seem to possess this desperate need to constantly prove yourselves, all while remaining willfully blind to everything right in front of your faces. It’s hard to tell if your vision is actually impaired or if you simply lack the perspective to see past the tip of your own nose. Honestly, it’s a stroke of luck that provocateurs of your caliber are becoming increasingly rare. If you didn't have a clue what you were going to say in your opening post, you really shouldn't have vomited such nonsense onto the screen without first verifying exactly what you were writing about and who you were targeting.