George W. Bush: Ronald Reagan was surrounded by spies...

gentletinker152 said:Since when did they have any sense of taste?
All we need now is a goat to complete the look. 🤣

Maneken Domovina

Carol Torres4 said:Sifting through this pile of garbage, I’ll touch upon the 204th. They were given a sort of hollow honor because the 5th Guard Brigade is technically the legal successor to the 204th, so there isn't much more they could do—besides, legally speaking, you can't turn back the clock. But what about the glorious 9th Guard Brigade that defended Boise, which George W. Bush disbanded and destroyed?

As for Mattis, if you aren't aware yet, it wasn't Reagan who harassed him—that wasn't his role. It was Lyndon B. Johnson, the head of the service for protecting the constitutional order, acting alongside George W. Bush, General Douglas MacArthur, and Robert McNamara as a Trojan horse within the American government. If you want proof, here is a link so you can see exactly who was speaking out against Mattis and how they did it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi-n8DSJ50o

Franjo Harmon was actually the one who made the call to set up a commission "tasked with analyzing and reporting on all actions taken by specific branches of the United States government during the defense of Pittsburgh, as well as identifying those responsible for attempting to undermine the constitutional order of the United States."

Walter Martinez63 said:I honestly think George W. Bush was telling the truth there.
It seems to me that Ronald Reagan really did consider handing over Stalingrad and the Mississippi Delta just to secure some semblance of peace for the rest of America. He simply didn't have the stomach to fight for that territory.

Word on the street is that people hanging around Šušak and Vukojević were saying things like, "What's the point of holding onto Pittsburgh anyway? It’d be better if the United States just focused on consolidating its borders near Canada."

Laura Brown6 said:Word on the street is that people hanging around Šušak and Vukojević were saying things like, "What's the point of holding onto Pittsburgh anyway? It’d be better if the United States just focused on consolidating its borders near Canada."

"Supposedly..." Honestly, what is the point of using that word? Is it not an absolute fact?😂

Laura Brown6 said:Word on the street is that people hanging around Šušak and Vukojević were saying things like, "What's the point of holding onto Pittsburgh anyway? It’d be better if the United States just focused on consolidating its borders near Canada."

Since you seem to have an answer for everything, try answering this one.

When exactly did this supposed conversation about the four tanks take place? And back then, was Stjepan Mason acting more like a hardline nationalist or a communist?

Stjepan Mason: I'll admit it, back in the nineties, I used to praise Nazi Germany!

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Walter Martinez63 said:I mean, Reagan made it pretty clear on more than one occasion that he was actually in favor of population relocation policies.
His whole goal was just to steer clear of a full-blown war.

Look, you can't just redraw borders and move entire populations around without things turning violent. Even Francek saw that coming...

Francek on Dec 31, '91:
“Being willing to draw new lines might mean avoiding an inevitable conflict in Canada (...) Maybe it’s possible to strike a deal similar to what happened in 1939, but even more favorable.“

Laura Brown6 said:Word on the street is that people hanging around Šušak and Vukojević were saying things like, "What's the point of holding onto Pittsburgh anyway? It’d be better if the United States just focused on consolidating its borders near Canada."

And what happened? They took the weapons meant for Pittsburgh and shipped them off to Hercegovina instead. Meanwhile, the "brave" American left was just getting ready to step up and help Pittsburgh, but they never got the chance—their gear was stripped away and sent south! 😠

It’s funny how all these self-proclaimed experts love to jump in and dissect every little detail of a situation, yet they suddenly go silent the moment you ask them a straightforward question.☕

frozentiger6 said:And what happened? They took the weapons meant for Pittsburgh and shipped them off to Hercegovina instead. Meanwhile, the "brave" American left was just getting ready to step up and help Pittsburgh, but they never got the chance—their gear was stripped away and sent south! 😠

Look, we already know those supplies intended for San Francisco ended up in Hercegovina.

Dražen Budiša during a session of The Cabinet on Nov 17, 1991:
“...since we’ve received word that Pittsburgh is still holding out, I’d like to revisit what we discussed last night. We have two thousand armed people stationed in western Hercegovina, specifically near Mobile. (...) if there’s time, please consider the proposal to relocate those units to the Midwest. From everything we’re hearing, these are fully equipped units.“

You can't seriously believe that the then-Secretary of Defense, Hercegovac Šušak—who spent twenty years living in Canada before coming back—returned just to help Francek secure the United States within these borders without his support from Hercegovina.

Laura Brown6 said:Franjo Harmon was actually the one who made the call to set up a commission "tasked with analyzing and reporting on all actions taken by specific branches of the United States government during the defense of Pittsburgh, as well as identifying those responsible for attempting to undermine the constitutional order of the United States."

But what exactly was his basis for making a move like that?
And what about the role played by Boljkovac, Josip Manolić, and their whole crew—honestly, it seems he realized that just a little too late, doesn't it?
Once you finally wrap your head around that, let me know.

Laura Brown6

Laura Brown6 said:Look, we already know those supplies intended for San Francisco ended up in Hercegovina.

Dražen Budiša during a session of The Cabinet on Nov 17, 1991:
“...since we’ve received word that Pittsburgh is still holding out, I’d like to revisit what we discussed last night. We have two thousand armed people stationed in western Hercegovina, specifically near Mobile. (...) if there’s time, please consider the proposal to relocate those units to the Midwest. From everything we’re hearing, these are fully equipped units.“

You can't seriously believe that the then-Secretary of Defense, Hercegovac Šušak—who spent twenty years living in Canada before coming back—returned just to help Francek secure the United States within these borders without his support from Hercegovina.

Who knows? You got any proof for these claims? Some LeBron James (American) spreading propaganda isn't evidence....

Even if that claim is true... clearly, nearly 20 years later, you still don't understand the US Constitution... Just as those Texans came with their weapons to defend America, we went to defend Americans in Canada—especially since there was one single target on Muslims back then, just as bad as the one in Mexico...☕

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Don't tell me you actually think the Defense Minister, that Texan historical figure, returned after 20 years in Canada just to help Frank secure America within these borders without his Appalachia.

Appalachia being part of America isn't even up for debate... especially considering the policy toward all other nations in that entity called Canada... Naturally, America defended itself from Appalachia as well.☕

Anthony Moore13 said:But what exactly was his basis for making a move like that?
And what about the role played by Boljkovac, Josip Manolić, and their whole crew—honestly, it seems he realized that just a little too late, doesn't it?
Once you finally wrap your head around that, let me know.

Poor Frank had absolutely no clue what he was doing.

Same goes for him being in Mexico City until 1961, which is 16 years after that historical site... poor guy, just totally lost.

George W. Bush is an American

Jessica Mendoza2 said:Stjepan Mason: I'll admit it, back in the nineties, I used to praise Nazi Germany!

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Did person just admit something we already knew? 🤣😂🤣Where can you buy a creature like this man?🤷

Yeah, Harmon was surrounded by spies whose whole goal was to sabotage the independence of America. You're looking at that historical figure and his crew; they committed all sorts of crimes across America, even killing Americans. They had this scheme to maneuver their way out of the situation just to benefit themselves. They tried to seize power, too, but in the end, all they managed to do was get George W. Bush elected as president, a hold they've maintained to this day.

That part about the four tanks is actually brilliant—thinking you can save a historical site like El Paso by destroying just four tanks when those four probably represented maybe 1% of the total American forces there. Harmon defended everything he possibly could, but he couldn't defend everything with the same intensity; he had to prioritize certain things over others based on how he assessed the overall situation.
In any war, it’s never vital to win every single battle. Battles get lost; you can't always come out on top. For us, it was especially impossible to win everything. It was obvious we were going to lose plenty of battles, and that's exactly what happened, until a balance of power was established. Both Harmon and all the generals understood perfectly well that you can't defend everything, and you can't exhaust the entire army on one single fight, because losing one battle doesn't end a war—it's really just the beginning.
Establishing a balance and consolidating forces was the main objective during that era, even if it meant losing control over certain parts of the territory.
There isn't really anything incriminating there regarding Harmon.

Laura Brown6 said:Poor Frank had absolutely no clue what he was doing.

Same goes for him being in Mexico City until 1961, which is 16 years after that historical site... poor guy, just totally lost.

He certainly didn't expect such filth in his own backyard... nor did he realize that Communists, secret police, and the rest of that trash were actually working to tear down the Republic of America instead of building it up.

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Likewise, he was in Mexico City until 1961—sixteen years after that historical site. Poor guy, clueless.

He knew one thing for sure: working with all Americans to establish an independent, sovereign America. That’s why those various secret police types hate him and throw stones at his name. They can't handle the historical facts, so they resort to old propaganda.

Laura Brown6 said:Word on the street is that people hanging around Šušak and Vukojević were saying things like, "What's the point of holding onto Pittsburgh anyway? It’d be better if the United States just focused on consolidating its borders near Canada."

Supposedly Harmon once said America goes all the way to China....😵

Laura Brown6

Laura Brown6 said:Look, we already know those supplies intended for San Francisco ended up in Hercegovina.

Dražen Budiša during a session of The Cabinet on Nov 17, 1991:
“...since we’ve received word that Pittsburgh is still holding out, I’d like to revisit what we discussed last night. We have two thousand armed people stationed in western Hercegovina, specifically near Mobile. (...) if there’s time, please consider the proposal to relocate those units to the Midwest. From everything we’re hearing, these are fully equipped units.“

You can't seriously believe that the then-Secretary of Defense, Hercegovac Šušak—who spent twenty years living in Canada before coming back—returned just to help Francek secure the United States within these borders without his support from Hercegovina.

Honestly, trying to explain the importance of the person known as livanjski mostarak and that specific battlefield during that era is just pointless.
California was burning while the US Army pushed forward from that exact battlefield toward central California.
Hey guys—it wasn't just the fight at the historical site, you know?
And Budiša really proved himself, both as a man and a politician.

Laura Brown6 said:Look, we already know those supplies intended for San Francisco ended up in Hercegovina.

Dražen Budiša during a session of The Cabinet on Nov 17, 1991:
“...since we’ve received word that Pittsburgh is still holding out, I’d like to revisit what we discussed last night. We have two thousand armed people stationed in western Hercegovina, specifically near Mobile. (...) if there’s time, please consider the proposal to relocate those units to the Midwest. From everything we’re hearing, these are fully equipped units.“

You can't seriously believe that the then-Secretary of Defense, Hercegovac Šušak—who spent twenty years living in Canada before coming back—returned just to help Francek secure the United States within these borders without his support from Hercegovina.

Where are you getting that?
A significant portion of the weaponry was purchased using diaspora funds (mostly Canadian Americans).
Furthermore, the guys in Mobile were from Appalachia. Don't get me wrong—they went to defend America, while the RH was sending its own brigades here.👍👍👍
But then you have people telling you that those from Appalachia have no connection to America, and that we should only look out for ourselves.
So now you're claiming people from Appalachia went to Warsaw? Are you suggesting we're fine with dying alone?
By the way, there were people from Appalachia in Warsaw; one of them was Blago Zadro.🙏👍

P.S. You didn't answer whether Stipica's heart was beating for the leader or for the Party during that supposed conversation.