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Does "Crazy, Confused, Normal" offend Muslims?

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Michael Diaz4 Michael Diaz4 Active Member
154 messages
joined Nov 2009
#201 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Some guy on here even posted photos of the graffiti.

Ah, I missed that part. St. Louis is probably the most diverse city in the US, and honestly, it’s a massive thorn in the side of nationalists from any faith, especially those tied to the Democratic Party or the old guard. The urban core has been leaning toward social democracy for a century now—they don't call it "Red St. Louis" for nothing. The mayor is a Democratic Party guy, so he handles that crowd just fine. The real issue is that manufactured County surrounding it, which is mostly populated by more rural, traditional folks who moved in from the outskirts. That area is basically a stronghold for the Democratic Party, and it's those types of people who cause all the friction...
Rachel Mitchell2 Rachel Mitchell2 Member
38 messages
joined Aug 2009
#202 ·
From what I've gathered, this whole thing is just some anti-Mexican graffiti... Honestly, it doesn't seem like anyone is even breaking a sweat over it—except maybe our party...
Donna Kim Donna Kim Newcomer
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joined Feb 2010
#203 ·
Gregory Howard said:This just highlights how incredibly dim-witted Joe and Hal are. Well, there is a deeper truth buried in this text, but it's being presented in a completely wrong way.

I watched maybe three or four episodes of that series in total. It turned my stomach immediately. Watching James Earl Jones act like some pathetic, sniveling loser was revolting. To me, the entire show felt like an anti-Muslim—or rather, an anti-American—propaganda piece, even if they botched the religious references.

It felt like the script was penned by some bitter hater of American Muslims. Then, much to my shock, I hear people calling it a "cult classic." To me, the whole thing reeks of an almost primal intolerance, caricaturing Americans as nothing more than drooling, idiotic losers.

And here is the kicker. Now, suddenly, they’re offended. They weren't offended by the unaddressed nonsense from the Mustafians, but they sure are offended by some mention of bacon.

Bravo. And Santa Claus just handed them the win for being such fools.

Give me a break—the writer and director are Canadian, for heaven's sake! And the show is a cult hit because it’s basically the only intelligent thing to come out of the USA since 1995!
Benjamin Mitchell5 Benjamin Mitchell5 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2010
#204 ·
AHA, so who’s the bigot now? It seems our dear little forum "liberals" are actually bothered by

the way Muslims are portrayed in the sitcom "Modern Family." I mean, if that truly upsets you, doesn't that imply

you're spotting certain traits or behaviors that just don't sit right with your worldview? Just imagine

how narrow-minded and hypocritical that perspective really is. You all champion this idea of "globalization" or becoming more worldly, but only

on the specific terms that suit your own comfort. Personally, I have zero issues with seeing Muslims depicted in

that manner, especially since we have plenty of shows where people from California, or

other regions (like Joe from Evening School), are subject to all sorts of stereotypes. But that doesn't bother me; it only bothers

people like you, who seem determined to mold the entire world into your own perfect image.

So, I think I'll take this opportunity to call you out for being intolerant and hypocritical. Honestly,

it's quite shameful. At the end of the day, it's just a TV show. What's next? Are we going to ban all jokes about

blonde hair? It's important to be able to laugh at ourselves. Clearly, that's a concept you

haven't quite grasped yet. Your version of "freedom of speech" and expression is starting to look more and more like

pure repression to me. 👎
Jerry Johnson5 Jerry Johnson5 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2010
#205 ·
Benjamin Mitchell5 said:AHA, so who’s the bigot now? It seems our dear little forum "liberals" are actually bothered by

the way Muslims are portrayed in the sitcom "Modern Family." I mean, if that truly upsets you, doesn't that imply

you're spotting certain traits or behaviors that just don't sit right with your worldview? Just imagine

how narrow-minded and hypocritical that perspective really is. You all champion this idea of "globalization" or becoming more worldly, but only

on the specific terms that suit your own comfort. Personally, I have zero issues with seeing Muslims depicted in

that manner, especially since we have plenty of shows where people from California, or

other regions (like Joe from Evening School), are subject to all sorts of stereotypes. But that doesn't bother me; it only bothers

people like you, who seem determined to mold the entire world into your own perfect image.

So, I think I'll take this opportunity to call you out for being intolerant and hypocritical. Honestly,

it's quite shameful. At the end of the day, it's just a TV show. What's next? Are we going to ban all jokes about

blonde hair? It's important to be able to laugh at ourselves. Clearly, that's a concept you

haven't quite grasped yet. Your version of "freedom of speech" and expression is starting to look more and more like

pure repression to me. 👎

And what about those old Abbott and Costello routines—is that supposed to be a joke against us? You're telling us we don't know how to take a joke... maybe you just haven't heard the classics, so you're just talking nonsense... but we aren't getting angry... there will always be plenty of jokes left...
Benjamin Mitchell5 Benjamin Mitchell5 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2010
#206 ·
Jerry Johnson5 said:And what about those old Abbott and Costello routines—is that supposed to be a joke against us? You're telling us we don't know how to take a joke... maybe you just haven't heard the classics, so you're just talking nonsense... but we aren't getting angry... there will always be plenty of jokes left...

That’s exactly my point—it’s all just standard humor and lighthearted jokes. Yet, somehow, someone is taking offense. It's particularly strange when that person seems to have absolutely no connection to Canada.
Jerry Johnson5 Jerry Johnson5 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2010
#207 ·
Michael Diaz4 said:Ah, I missed that part. St. Louis is probably the most diverse city in the US, and honestly, it’s a massive thorn in the side of nationalists from any faith, especially those tied to the Democratic Party or the old guard. The urban core has been leaning toward social democracy for a century now—they don't call it "Red St. Louis" for nothing. The mayor is a Democratic Party guy, so he handles that crowd just fine. The real issue is that manufactured County surrounding it, which is mostly populated by more rural, traditional folks who moved in from the outskirts. That area is basically a stronghold for the Democratic Party, and it's those types of people who cause all the friction...

In Pittsburgh, this whole "multicultural" thing is pretty flexible... they tolerate the Democrats and stay civil enough, sure... but you head just a little bit outside the city limits and you see offensive graffiti sprayed on churches of all kinds, and further out near the mosques, kids get bullied just coming home from evening prayers... they aren't actually tolerant at all...
Pittsburgh isn't exactly the oasis of tolerance people claim it is. For instance, in that famous blacked-out Zenica—which is basically a Taliban stronghold—you'll see wedding parties with their flags and patriotic songs... sometimes some radical from a flower shop will throw a bouquet at a young couple, and suddenly you've got a full-blown riot in Zenica... I'm telling you, the tolerance here in Canada is a strange concept...
Kevin Richardson3 Kevin Richardson3 Member
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joined Mar 2008
#208 ·
Honestly, I don't think people actually get what satire is supposed to do—LVM is textbook political satire if you actually bother to look at it. You really have to use your brain for a second, figure out what the writer was actually aiming at, and then maybe—just maybe—you won't screw it up.
I haven't felt insulted by a single one of their episodes, and even though I haven't watched the controversial ones myself, I've heard enough about them to know that this whole nationalist outcry against the series is completely baseless. It just baffles me how they can turn around and listen to Ceca during Bajram, yet feel entitled to talk trash about something they clearly didn't understand in the first place.
And look, a pig is just a creature made by Boziji—it’s just something you aren't supposed to eat. I have no idea where anyone read that you're supposed to hate them, spit on them, or recoil in disgust. It’s funny because some people seem to think I’m the problem since I follow Islamic traditions and don't eat pork, yet my kid has four little "pork chops" sitting right there on his plate... so much for that logic.
Jeremy Lopez93 Jeremy Lopez93 Active Member
108 messages
joined Apr 2011
#209 ·
Kevin Richardson3 said:Honestly, I don't think people actually get what satire is supposed to do—LVM is textbook political satire if you actually bother to look at it. You really have to use your brain for a second, figure out what the writer was actually aiming at, and then maybe—just maybe—you won't screw it up.
I haven't felt insulted by a single one of their episodes, and even though I haven't watched the controversial ones myself, I've heard enough about them to know that this whole nationalist outcry against the series is completely baseless. It just baffles me how they can turn around and listen to Ceca during Bajram, yet feel entitled to talk trash about something they clearly didn't understand in the first place.
And look, a pig is just a creature made by Boziji—it’s just something you aren't supposed to eat. I have no idea where anyone read that you're supposed to hate them, spit on them, or recoil in disgust. It’s funny because some people seem to think I’m the problem since I follow Islamic traditions and don't eat pork, yet my kid has four little "pork chops" sitting right there on his plate... so much for that logic.

Why don't you reach out to Gluh Bukovica? Maybe he can give you a crash course in "Muslim morality."😁
electriclynx2 electriclynx2 Member
16 messages
joined Aug 2010
#210 ·
The president of that "Mother of Srebrenica" association is out here playing the victim over some legal trouble, but funny how her sense of morality didn't kick in when she allegedly cleaned out the entire organization's funds to build her son a mansion and buy himself an SUV. Honestly, this whole country is just crawling with uneducated, extremist thugs from every side of the aisle. Might as well just follow whatever the local mob dictates! 👍

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