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Rachel Jones8 Rachel Jones8 Active Member
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joined Dec 2011
#341 ·
Michelle Ward3 said:Sure, there are plenty of tech-savvy kids that age, but there are others too. That’s why I think starting slow with the basics is perfectly fine.

In our school, computer science is a mandatory elective (an oxymoron, I know) starting in first grade. Along with the kids who are already pros, we have students who don't even own a computer at home.
My daughter falls into a third category. She has her own laptop, but she’s incredibly hesitant, distrustful, and lacks independence when navigating the digital world.

That said, I notice that as she learns more, that fear* of clicking the wrong thing or "breaking" the machine starts to fade.

To head off any questions 😬
I have no clue why she’s so afraid. God knows I’m constantly diving into all sorts of experiments and deep dives that usually end with me having to reinstall macOS, and 🙄 then the boys have to come save my skin.

Regardless, even though they take computer classes, they've never actually been given a task where a computer was truly essential.

Which school is this... or if that's too personal, maybe just what city?
Are there many schools doing this?
Do they have to pick another one, like religion or a language, meaning they end up with two extra electives on top of the core classes?
Or is a second language actually required?
Michelle Ward3 Michelle Ward3 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2013
#342 ·
Rachel Jones8 said:Which school is this... or if that's too personal, maybe just what city?
Are there many schools doing this?
Do they have to pick another one, like religion or a language, meaning they end up with two extra electives on top of the core classes?
Or is a second language actually required?

Foreign language is mandatory starting in first grade. In fourth grade, they can choose to take one more, two, or none at all as an elective.
The catch is, if they sign up, they’re stuck with it until the end. You can't just decide in fifth grade that you're done with it 😁
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brightheron64 brightheron64 Regular
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joined Apr 2016
#343 ·
Rachel Jones8 said:Based on what was said earlier,
For example, my kids have been at a computer since they could sit up and move a mouse around, maybe around age 2. Aside from some basic stuff, I never hovered over them too much; I just let them explore the digital world on their own. Honestly, it blows my mind every time I see what those kids are actually capable of doing.

They can handle typing in Word and formatting text just fine. They love playing around with drawing apps—not just Paint, but much more advanced stuff. PowerPoint and Excel haven't caught their eye yet, but they can pretty much do whatever they want on a computer. If they hit a wall, they just ask and move right along....

Since they know so much and are totally self-taught...
...I'm curious (if you don't mind sharing) how old they are...to be playing with pro software while teaching themselves everything.
But I guess... they ask questions, so someone probably shows them the ropes... right?

It's been 8 and 11 years
fadedtrucker8 fadedtrucker8 Member
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joined Jun 2008
#344 ·
Rachel Jones8 said:Finished first grade already?
Think they'll have them in the next three, too?
So, what kind of group are we talking about here? Like half a class?
Three hours a week for everyone?
One group for an hour, another for an hour, then everyone together for one more? Makes sense, right?
Did everyone really have three hours a week to spare?
I mean, if high school only gives us two hours a week... and only English and math get any more than that? Seems a little sketchy, doesn't it?

Of course that matters, but honestly, isn't it also kind of a big deal whether you only get one year of computer science for two hours a week, or if you actually get four or eight years of it?

They seem to be divided into groups—two hours split between halves, plus one hour where everyone attends together. I am certain they have it for sophomore year, but I haven't looked into the curriculum for the upperclassmen yet.
wanderinggardener12 wanderinggardener12 Active Member
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joined Jun 2012
#345 ·
How much weight do grades actually carry for a first grader? How many are even necessary? And more importantly, what kind of message are we sending to the child versus what we’re telling the parents?

Consider this scenario: a first grader is halfway through the second semester, and all they have to show for it in English Language Arts are two grades—a C in reading comprehension and a B in literature. The reason for the C? When asked which three stores Pale visited, the student answered "a toy store" and "two grocery stores," whereas the answer key expected "a bakery, a fruit stand, and a candy shop." Where is the evaluation of oral expression—the discussions about the books they read, their ability to articulate thoughts, their creativity, or their reading fluency? Where is the assessment of their handwriting, the heavy workload they complete, the development of fine motor skills through writing, or any meaningful verbal testing?

A friend of mine shared this specific situation with me. Her son started the year barely recognizing letters, struggling with phonics, but he has progressed to reading quite steadily; he reads slowly, but he reads independently, tackles literature, writes, understands everything he reads, and expresses himself well above his age level. He’s even independent when it comes to his homework. So, what is the underlying message being sent here? And what are the long-term implications if those C's and B's
What if this same child also has a single B on a math quiz?
That’s it. No other grades exist. His mother attended the parent-teacher conference, and now they are stuck in a dilemma: should they enroll him in extra tutoring after a grueling school day that runs from 8 AM to 5 PM, or should they just let things play out naturally?

I’ve known this little boy since the day he was born. In preschool, he could count to ten without a hitch, he draws beautifully, he’s organized, he’s inquisitive, performs science experiments at home, builds things, and explores the world around him...

I honestly don't know what to tell her.

She mentions that he hasn't really cared about grades until now, but now... she’s unsure whether she needs to confront him about them or simply allow him to develop without the unnecessary burden of academic pressure.
hiddendriver34 hiddendriver34 Regular
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joined Jan 2023
#346 ·
wanderinggardener12 said:How much weight do grades actually carry for a first grader? How many are even necessary? And more importantly, what kind of message are we sending to the child versus what we’re telling the parents?

Consider this scenario: a first grader is halfway through the second semester, and all they have to show for it in English Language Arts are two grades—a C in reading comprehension and a B in literature. The reason for the C? When asked which three stores Pale visited, the student answered "a toy store" and "two grocery stores," whereas the answer key expected "a bakery, a fruit stand, and a candy shop." Where is the evaluation of oral expression—the discussions about the books they read, their ability to articulate thoughts, their creativity, or their reading fluency? Where is the assessment of their handwriting, the heavy workload they complete, the development of fine motor skills through writing, or any meaningful verbal testing?

A friend of mine shared this specific situation with me. Her son started the year barely recognizing letters, struggling with phonics, but he has progressed to reading quite steadily; he reads slowly, but he reads independently, tackles literature, writes, understands everything he reads, and expresses himself well above his age level. He’s even independent when it comes to his homework. So, what is the underlying message being sent here? And what are the long-term implications if those C's and B's
What if this same child also has a single B on a math quiz?
That’s it. No other grades exist. His mother attended the parent-teacher conference, and now they are stuck in a dilemma: should they enroll him in extra tutoring after a grueling school day that runs from 8 AM to 5 PM, or should they just let things play out naturally?

I’ve known this little boy since the day he was born. In preschool, he could count to ten without a hitch, he draws beautifully, he’s organized, he’s inquisitive, performs science experiments at home, builds things, and explores the world around him...

I honestly don't know what to tell her.

She mentions that he hasn't really cared about grades until now, but now... she’s unsure whether she needs to confront him about them or simply allow him to develop without the unnecessary burden of academic pressure.

Of course she should! Do those grades actually say anything meaningful about who he is? About his intelligence? About whether he'll be a good student in middle school, high school, or college? They don't! He'll have to face the reality of grading sooner or later; they should just be glad he hasn't had to yet.
I can't stand grading.😠
silvertinker6 silvertinker6 Member
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joined Sep 2017
#347 ·
wanderinggardener12 said:How much weight do grades actually carry for a first grader? How many are even necessary? And more importantly, what kind of message are we sending to the child versus what we’re telling the parents?

Consider this scenario: a first grader is halfway through the second semester, and all they have to show for it in English Language Arts are two grades—a C in reading comprehension and a B in literature. The reason for the C? When asked which three stores Pale visited, the student answered "a toy store" and "two grocery stores," whereas the answer key expected "a bakery, a fruit stand, and a candy shop." Where is the evaluation of oral expression—the discussions about the books they read, their ability to articulate thoughts, their creativity, or their reading fluency? Where is the assessment of their handwriting, the heavy workload they complete, the development of fine motor skills through writing, or any meaningful verbal testing?

A friend of mine shared this specific situation with me. Her son started the year barely recognizing letters, struggling with phonics, but he has progressed to reading quite steadily; he reads slowly, but he reads independently, tackles literature, writes, understands everything he reads, and expresses himself well above his age level. He’s even independent when it comes to his homework. So, what is the underlying message being sent here? And what are the long-term implications if those C's and B's
What if this same child also has a single B on a math quiz?
That’s it. No other grades exist. His mother attended the parent-teacher conference, and now they are stuck in a dilemma: should they enroll him in extra tutoring after a grueling school day that runs from 8 AM to 5 PM, or should they just let things play out naturally?

I’ve known this little boy since the day he was born. In preschool, he could count to ten without a hitch, he draws beautifully, he’s organized, he’s inquisitive, performs science experiments at home, builds things, and explores the world around him...

I honestly don't know what to tell her.

She mentions that he hasn't really cared about grades until now, but now... she’s unsure whether she needs to confront him about them or simply allow him to develop without the unnecessary burden of academic pressure.

That is a very small number of grades... the second semester has been going for two months already, but perhaps the teacher is moving a bit slowly??!!!
If a child enters first grade without knowing the alphabet or how to read, then this progress is good and exactly what it should be... frankly, most kids today start first grade already knowing the alphabet and some reading skills, often up to solid reading levels... so in those cases, everything is fine...
But then those children are at a disadvantage compared to these readers and letter-learners...
If the child is bright, they will catch up; I only suggest a little bit of practice at home... maybe pick up some novels or books that interest the child and spend half an hour reading and retelling stories with the parents...
Math is similar... just repeat a few problems they worked on to solidify the knowledge...

Good luck!
Carl Green4 Carl Green4 Member
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#348 ·
I’m the mother of a first grader who never went to preschool and couldn't read or write before starting elementary school.
She simply had zero interest, and I wasn't about to force it.
She eventually picked everything up on her own. Her teacher looked at me like I was crazy when I mentioned she arrived with no prior skills.
I don't really get what people mean when they say a child can handle homework entirely by themselves.
My daughter writes her own, but I check everything, point out mistakes, and explain concepts whenever necessary.
We study for tests together because kids that age aren't capable of knowing how to study effectively on their own.
In my view, grades aren't what matters.
But grades exist, and there's no way around that.
If parents or the child aren't happy with the report card, then they need to put in more practice and work.
You just can't expect a kid that small to sit there and learn everything independently.
Elizabeth Morales49 Elizabeth Morales49 Member
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joined May 2023
#349 ·
I’m starting to really appreciate the fact that we don't mess with grades during those first four years of school here in the States.
If a teacher hands out harsh marks too early on, they risk backfiring completely... you end up with a kid who just grows to hate school entirely.
wanderinggardener12 wanderinggardener12 Active Member
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joined Jun 2012
#350 ·
silvertinker6 said:That is a very small number of grades... the second semester has been going for two months already, but perhaps the teacher is moving a bit slowly??!!!
If a child enters first grade without knowing the alphabet or how to read, then this progress is good and exactly what it should be... frankly, most kids today start first grade already knowing the alphabet and some reading skills, often up to solid reading levels... so in those cases, everything is fine...
But then those children are at a disadvantage compared to these readers and letter-learners...
If the child is bright, they will catch up; I only suggest a little bit of practice at home... maybe pick up some novels or books that interest the child and spend half an hour reading and retelling stories with the parents...
Math is similar... just repeat a few problems they worked on to solidify the knowledge...

Good luck!

The point isn't really about what the grades are or how fast someone is progressing, but rather whether grading is even necessary in the first place, and what message it sends to the parent—and more importantly, to the child. I wouldn't want this discussion to devolve into a guide on how to prep a future kindergartner or how first graders advance. That’s not the crux of the matter.

What I'm interested in is how you think a typical child, one developing normally, feels when they have the weight of constant grading hanging over their necks.

And how does the parent feel? What happens if the child is making wonderful progress, yet from standardized tests they're pulling Cs and Ds, while there are no other markers of advancement, like verbal feedback?

I have a first grader myself. She couldn't care less about grades.

However, the kid I’m talking about is already starting to feel like they aren't doing well in school... And both my friend and her husband are frustrated by all of this... because they worry about the self-esteem of a child who is perfectly fine and making great strides.
analogseal18 analogseal18 Active Member
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joined Nov 2018
#351 ·
Most first graders couldn't care less about their grades until their parents start treating them like they're the most important metric in the entire school system.

But what about the parent's perspective? How does that actually feel? Grades are meant to be a snapshot of current knowledge, not a measurement of progress from point A to point B. While some people harbor massive expectations, we have to remember that everyone brings different life experiences and distinct personalities to the table; there simply isn't a one-size-fits-all answer here.

Looking at the child mentioned in the original post, perhaps they should aim for slightly higher marks in English Language Arts. It is entirely possible the teacher is holding off on grading certain areas because they recognize the student is still "in transit." In early elementary school, a C or a B isn't exactly considered a stellar achievement, especially since teachers often lean toward more encouraging, inflated grades that don't necessarily reflect reality. In this specific instance, I suspect the issue is that the child is still a developing reader whose brain is heavily occupied with the mechanics of decoding words rather than truly grasping the narrative or visualizing the imagery. That is merely the current state of things. Is it truly fair to assign the same grade to a child navigating this initial phase as we would to a student capable of writing elaborate essays with only minor grammatical slips—the kind of skill seen in children who have spent years reading fluently and actively?
restlessskipper8 restlessskipper8 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2015
#352 ·
What exactly is the issue with getting a C or a B? Those are solid grades—"satisfactory" and "good," right? I don't get why parents aren't satisfied with that... especially since, from what I can see, the kid himself is perfectly fine with it. He doesn't seem to care at all.
And honestly, how would kids who are actually mastering the material—you know, the ones who can nail everything from math problems to complex science projects or whatever else comes up 😁—feel if they saw themselves getting the exact same grades as this kid?
I just can't wrap my head around why it's considered "normal" for 90% of first graders to walk away with straight As in every single subject, even though I can tell that's exactly what parents expect and it's what happens in most schools and classrooms across the country. It makes no sense. If we're using a grading system, then let's actually use it... it feels wrong that everyone ends up with an A in everything, with only a handful of exceptions.
In my experience, kids who don't make a huge production out of their report cards are totally fine with Cs and Bs, provided their parents don't start breathing down their necks like the ones described above.

I think in any system that utilizes grades, it's enough to explain to children what they represent and what they're for, and leave it at that. I don't see how a B or a C could possibly ruin a child's self-esteem or motivation... unless someone convinces them that they *deserve* an A regardless of their actual performance. It’s not like getting a B in first grade is going to prevent them from getting into a good university twelve years down the road. They have several years to get used to how the system works—not that we should debate the quality of the system itself right now—before grades actually start mattering for anything significant... aside from feeding a parent's ego or perhaps the ego of a certain type of student.
Richard Morris43 Richard Morris43 Active Member
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joined Apr 2008
#353 ·
Here’s my take on things, coming at this from the perspective of a mom with a kid just starting first grade.
So, the other day he comes home with a C in art... which, honestly? That grade totally rubbed me the wrong way. I mean, how do you even give a first grader a C in art class? To him, it doesn't even matter because we already had a long talk about how grades are just numbers on a page for kids.
As far as reading goes, he started the school year just spelling out individual letters, but man, has he made leaps and bounds since then.
Their last assignment was reading a book and having to write down the plot summary in their journal—which, if you ask me, feels a little early for a six-year-old.
I didn't mind much when they just did verbal Q&A sessions where the teacher would ask questions after they finished a book.
But then they had a reading comprehension test. And guess what? Another C. He actually got all the answers right, but apparently, he didn't write them out in full, complete sentences. Oh, and get this—the teacher was also nitpicking whether they used periods and commas in the right spots.🙄
Call me crazy, but that whole thing just seems a bit much to me.

From where I'm sitting, he's actually making incredible progress, and we are working our tails off with him at home. He's grasping basically everything, yet he keeps racking up these Cs. It’s frustrating us, not him.
Justin Allen81 Justin Allen81 Member
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joined Apr 2010
#354 ·
It’s entirely possible schools are already planting seeds about what constitutes a "good" grade versus a bad one. My daughter is in third grade now, and we have never—not once—applied any pressure regarding her report card. To me, a B, a C, or even a D is perfectly fine if it’s earned fairly. I don't see the issue, and I’ve never even hinted to her that anything less than an A is a failure. As for homework and studying, we don't sit down and drill her. She’s asked for help maybe two or three times in total; even then, we don't just hand her the answers—we show her how to use Google so she can find the info herself. If she’s ever unsure (which is rare), she shows us, we double-check, and it’s always fine.

I don't know—I honestly think kids shouldn't be coddled through their schoolwork unless they're genuinely struggling. It’s much better to teach them how to troubleshoot and figure things out on their own.

Some people—my own parents included—think I'm neglecting her. 😁 Personally, I think I'm giving her something better than easy answers: I'm giving her the tools to navigate life.

The reason I mentioned school at the start is this: she usually pulls straight As, maybe a B here or there once a year, but she recently got a C.
Total drama.
Tears, absolute devastation—she wants to punish herself, ban herself from the computer, give up cartoons... all because of a single C. I was floored. 🤣 I mean, seriously? It’s a C. It’s a decent grade; it isn't the end of the world.
But no, apparently a C is a catastrophe, she’s "ashamed," blah blah blah... I don't think she heard that at home. I don't even think her teacher said anything; it feels more like she picked it up from her friends in class. They already have those social hierarchies—the "smart kids" versus everyone else—they sort themselves out pretty quickly.

I believe we need to repeat it as many times as necessary: every grade is acceptable if it’s deserved. We have to hammer that home until it sticks. There is a reason for a failing grade, too—nobody died from getting an F. People just apply pressure where it isn't needed. We all had our share of failing grades; the difference is how our parents reacted. I used to be terrified of my parents—I'd hide my failing marks and lie through my teeth, even though I was actually a top student. I truly don't want my child hiding her grades or being afraid to tell me. If that happened, I'd feel like I failed as a parent.
Justin Davis2 Justin Davis2 Member
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joined Mar 2015
#355 ·
Richard Morris43 said:Here’s my take on things, coming at this from the perspective of a mom with a kid just starting first grade.
So, the other day he comes home with a C in art... which, honestly? That grade totally rubbed me the wrong way. I mean, how do you even give a first grader a C in art class? To him, it doesn't even matter because we already had a long talk about how grades are just numbers on a page for kids.
As far as reading goes, he started the school year just spelling out individual letters, but man, has he made leaps and bounds since then.
Their last assignment was reading a book and having to write down the plot summary in their journal—which, if you ask me, feels a little early for a six-year-old.
I didn't mind much when they just did verbal Q&A sessions where the teacher would ask questions after they finished a book.
But then they had a reading comprehension test. And guess what? Another C. He actually got all the answers right, but apparently, he didn't write them out in full, complete sentences. Oh, and get this—the teacher was also nitpicking whether they used periods and commas in the right spots.🙄
Call me crazy, but that whole thing just seems a bit much to me.

From where I'm sitting, he's actually making incredible progress, and we are working our tails off with him at home. He's grasping basically everything, yet he keeps racking up these Cs. It’s frustrating us, not him.

It’s the exact same deal over here. Last week they were writing sentences and she was grading them on comma usage (?!) even though we're at home and they've basically only been taught to worry about question marks, exclamation points, and periods at school so far. Still a C. She doesn't seem to care, but it pisses me off—not because of the grade, but because of what they're demanding from them. Dammit, sometimes even I still hesitate today wondering if a comma goes there or not. They're asking too much. Like, this is a kid who was only 6 years old a week ago and now they have to know where every single comma goes.😲

In English class, we've got one F from USA, a few As, a B... you name it 😁.
Justin Davis2 Justin Davis2 Member
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joined Mar 2015
#356 ·
Regarding what the author posted, I don't get why she only has two grades from American lit so far. I've already got seven.
silentsurfer2 silentsurfer2 Member
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joined Mar 2015
#357 ·
Richard Morris43 said:Here’s my take on things, coming at this from the perspective of a mom with a kid just starting first grade.
So, the other day he comes home with a C in art... which, honestly? That grade totally rubbed me the wrong way. I mean, how do you even give a first grader a C in art class? To him, it doesn't even matter because we already had a long talk about how grades are just numbers on a page for kids.
As far as reading goes, he started the school year just spelling out individual letters, but man, has he made leaps and bounds since then.
Their last assignment was reading a book and having to write down the plot summary in their journal—which, if you ask me, feels a little early for a six-year-old.
I didn't mind much when they just did verbal Q&A sessions where the teacher would ask questions after they finished a book.
But then they had a reading comprehension test. And guess what? Another C. He actually got all the answers right, but apparently, he didn't write them out in full, complete sentences. Oh, and get this—the teacher was also nitpicking whether they used periods and commas in the right spots.🙄
Call me crazy, but that whole thing just seems a bit much to me.

From where I'm sitting, he's actually making incredible progress, and we are working our tails off with him at home. He's grasping basically everything, yet he keeps racking up these Cs. It’s frustrating us, not him.

Look, a C is fine. Would you have given him a B or an A instead? If you did, what would the kids who actually used full sentences and perfect punctuation get? Or the ones who wrote full sentences but messed up the commas? There are differences for a reason.

It's great that he's improving, but a grade isn't a measure of a kid's personal growth—it's just how their knowledge stacks up against everyone else.
wanderingbadger44 wanderingbadger44 Active Member
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joined Feb 2023
#358 ·
wanderinggardener12 said:How much weight do grades actually carry for a first grader? How many are even necessary? And more importantly, what kind of message are we sending to the child versus what we’re telling the parents?

Consider this scenario: a first grader is halfway through the second semester, and all they have to show for it in English Language Arts are two grades—a C in reading comprehension and a B in literature. The reason for the C? When asked which three stores Pale visited, the student answered "a toy store" and "two grocery stores," whereas the answer key expected "a bakery, a fruit stand, and a candy shop." Where is the evaluation of oral expression—the discussions about the books they read, their ability to articulate thoughts, their creativity, or their reading fluency? Where is the assessment of their handwriting, the heavy workload they complete, the development of fine motor skills through writing, or any meaningful verbal testing?

A friend of mine shared this specific situation with me. Her son started the year barely recognizing letters, struggling with phonics, but he has progressed to reading quite steadily; he reads slowly, but he reads independently, tackles literature, writes, understands everything he reads, and expresses himself well above his age level. He’s even independent when it comes to his homework. So, what is the underlying message being sent here? And what are the long-term implications if those C's and B's
What if this same child also has a single B on a math quiz?
That’s it. No other grades exist. His mother attended the parent-teacher conference, and now they are stuck in a dilemma: should they enroll him in extra tutoring after a grueling school day that runs from 8 AM to 5 PM, or should they just let things play out naturally?

I’ve known this little boy since the day he was born. In preschool, he could count to ten without a hitch, he draws beautifully, he’s organized, he’s inquisitive, performs science experiments at home, builds things, and explores the world around him...

I honestly don't know what to tell her.

She mentions that he hasn't really cared about grades until now, but now... she’s unsure whether she needs to confront him about them or simply allow him to develop without the unnecessary burden of academic pressure.

Not this again. Just a few months back, you opened a similar thread with an almost identical opening, also focusing on a "first grader"—except back then, it was a high schooler belonging to a friend.

Are you just a troll, or is there a real person behind this who is working incredibly hard to undermine anyone offering actual guidance, all just to make sure you come out looking flawless and right in the eyes of those "enlightened" types?
Andrew Doyle Andrew Doyle Regular
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joined Aug 2011
#359 ·
wanderinggardener12 said:How much weight do grades actually carry for a first grader? How many are even necessary? And more importantly, what kind of message are we sending to the child versus what we’re telling the parents?

Consider this scenario: a first grader is halfway through the second semester, and all they have to show for it in English Language Arts are two grades—a C in reading comprehension and a B in literature. The reason for the C? When asked which three stores Pale visited, the student answered "a toy store" and "two grocery stores," whereas the answer key expected "a bakery, a fruit stand, and a candy shop." Where is the evaluation of oral expression—the discussions about the books they read, their ability to articulate thoughts, their creativity, or their reading fluency? Where is the assessment of their handwriting, the heavy workload they complete, the development of fine motor skills through writing, or any meaningful verbal testing?

A friend of mine shared this specific situation with me. Her son started the year barely recognizing letters, struggling with phonics, but he has progressed to reading quite steadily; he reads slowly, but he reads independently, tackles literature, writes, understands everything he reads, and expresses himself well above his age level. He’s even independent when it comes to his homework. So, what is the underlying message being sent here? And what are the long-term implications if those C's and B's
What if this same child also has a single B on a math quiz?
That’s it. No other grades exist. His mother attended the parent-teacher conference, and now they are stuck in a dilemma: should they enroll him in extra tutoring after a grueling school day that runs from 8 AM to 5 PM, or should they just let things play out naturally?

I’ve known this little boy since the day he was born. In preschool, he could count to ten without a hitch, he draws beautifully, he’s organized, he’s inquisitive, performs science experiments at home, builds things, and explores the world around him...

I honestly don't know what to tell her.

She mentions that he hasn't really cared about grades until now, but now... she’s unsure whether she needs to confront him about them or simply allow him to develop without the unnecessary burden of academic pressure.

Look, whether they "matter" or not, the grading system exists. And let’s be realistic: we aren't seeing a massive overhaul of the American education system anytime soon—certainly nothing that would move us toward descriptive feedback instead of letter grades, even for the younger kids. In my opinion, grades in the early years are unnecessary (if you asked me, I wouldn't want them in the upper elementary grades either, but hey, I don't make the rules... 🙂 ), but since the system is built this way, we have to guide our children within the reality of what they face. You have to sit the child down and explain what a grade means, why it isn't higher, and what the implications are.

Take my kid, for example. He wants to be a software engineer. So, I explained to him exactly who becomes a programmer and which specific grades (and in which subjects) get them through the door. I also made it clear that better grades tomorrow mean more freedom of choice if he decides programming isn't his path later on 😁.

My philosophy is simple: tell the child they need to put in the work and give it their absolute best. Success won't always be recognized, and merit isn't always rewarded fairly—that's just life. The goal is to help them discover their own capacity. For some kids, a C in math is their absolute ceiling... and in those cases, you should praise them for the effort they put in as if they had earned an A 🙂.

In first grade, grades usually don't mean much to students—often, they don't mean anything at all. You see the same thing in second grade. But eventually, it clicks. They start to understand the weight of it.

In my son's class, there have been all kinds of grades from the very beginning. Some kids barely scraped by first grade with D's... honestly, I found that incomprehensible and a bit brutal. But it is what it is. You help your child as much as you can, teach them *how* to learn, and introduce them to the consequences of both hard work and laziness...

To me, the most vital thing in those early grades is establishing a work ethic and teaching them study habits. Grades will come and go; they'll be good, they'll be bad. There is no reason to lose sleep over a poor grade, but there is every reason to strive to do one's best. We all have off days where we can't meet even a fraction of our potential, let alone the whole thing—and kids are no different. They'll have days where they can't concentrate, where they fail a test, or where they trip up on things they usually know perfectly well... and that's just being human. 🙂
frozenrider15 frozenrider15 Active Member
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My little girl is heading into first grade this fall. Honestly, I’ve already decided I’m not going to sweat the grades. She’s incredibly sensitive, and if I act like her GPA matters to me, she’ll just spiral. A kid needs to experience the full spectrum of academic highs and lows, even starting in elementary school. Just imagine the absolute trauma for a child who cruised through kindergarten without ever seeing anything below an A, only to hit fifth grade and get slapped with their first failing mark. You have to face reality eventually.

Regarding the frustration over "subjective" grades—you know, things like Art, Music, or PE—I believe it should be every teacher's responsibility at the first back-to-school night to lay out their grading rubrics clearly. That goes for every single subject. If the parent knows the criteria, then when the kid comes home with a C in Art, they actually understand why. Maybe they didn't finish the project, failed to follow the prompt—like forgetting to use warm colors in a landscape—or just gave up halfway through. The child should be able to explain the "why" behind the grade at home. In short, don't let them just shrug and say, "I don't know."

Personally, I can't stand the idea of grades in Religious Studies (and yes, I realize it's an elective). Because of that, I won't be enrolling my daughter in it, though I certainly don't mind her sitting in the class. I wouldn't even dream of asking her to skip the room while the class is in session. It’s just a revolting thought to me—the idea of assigning a letter grade to someone's relationship with the Almighty. But hey, that's just my take; I'm not looking to start some crusade 😁.

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