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The social psychology of homophobia

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Edward Wilson82 Edward Wilson82 Member
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#41 ·
The whole concept of "homophobia" is just one of those constructs cooked up by gay intellectuals that has zero connection to reality. Originally, the term was used in psychiatric jargon to describe an individual's fear of their own homosexual inclinations. But then, activists hijacked the word and redefined it to label any negative attitude, hatred, or supposed "fear" toward homosexuals.
As a rhetorical weapon, its sole purpose is to discredit, smear, and belittle anyone standing against homosexual behavior or its legalization. Naturally, they don't bother pointing out that this includes all opponents universally. In the public eye, activists will slap the "homophobe" label on actual violent bigots—like skinheads, for instance—to shift focus onto those specific character flaws and show why those people oppose homosexuality. But in practical discourse, they’ll pin the "homophobe" tag on anyone who thinks homosexual behavior is bad, abnormal, or harmful. If they want to be honest, we should demand that activists and lawyers actually explain the difference between a homophobe and someone who simply opposes homosexuality without being one.

Furthermore, the term "homophobia" frames opposition to homosexuality as a mental illness. This gives activists a certain kind of thrill since homosexuality was removed from the list of psychiatric disorders back in 1973. Now, suddenly, they're the healthy ones, and anyone speaking out against them is mentally ill. It's obvious to everyone that a stroke of a pen doesn't fix a disorder, nor can it make someone mentally unstable.

Thirdly, the term "homophobia" acts as a semantic stand-in for "racism," intended to signal to the public that opposing homosexuality is equivalent to racial prejudice against minorities.
Basically, these different angles of "homophobia" serve to silence and shame opponents. That way, when someone disagrees with homosexuality, its behavior, its legalization, or pride parades... they can be immediately branded as either mentally ill or a racist.

Bottom line: "homophobia" is a load of nonsense invented by gay pundits to use as a rhetorical club against anyone in their way.
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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#42 ·
Could someone please explain how the host of "Red Carpet" managed to end up on a list of top homophobes?

I don't follow the show very closely, so I'm not entirely sure what he actually said or did, but from what I have seen of the program, it honestly feels quite... how should I put this... homoerotic?
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
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#43 ·
Ryan Wood98 said:Could someone please explain how the host of "Red Carpet" managed to end up on a list of top homophobes?

I don't follow the show very closely, so I'm not entirely sure what he actually said or did, but from what I have seen of the program, it honestly feels quite... how should I put this... homoerotic?

Honestly, I’m about 99.9% convinced that Delale is gay.
As for him being on some list of homophobes, I haven't the slightest clue. Perhaps people just take his constant, snarky mockery of everything in that trashy show far too seriously?🤷

Or maybe he's just internalized it.😁

Or maybe he's just lost in the woods.
silverviper23 silverviper23 Newcomer
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#44 ·
Ryan Wood98 said:Could someone please explain how the host of "Red Carpet" managed to end up on a list of top homophobes?

I don't follow the show very closely, so I'm not entirely sure what he actually said or did, but from what I have seen of the program, it honestly feels quite... how should I put this... homoerotic?

🤦

That is exactly my point.☕
Lisa Hernandez3 Lisa Hernandez3 Active Member
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#45 ·
Ryan Wood98 said:Could someone please explain how the host of "Red Carpet" managed to end up on a list of top homophobes?

I don't follow the show very closely, so I'm not entirely sure what he actually said or did, but from what I have seen of the program, it honestly feels quite... how should I put this... homoerotic?

I suppose even he doesn't really get it himself. 🤣

It seemed pretty strange to me too. I recall—just like he mentioned—that there were actually some quite queer-friendly segments in the show. Maybe the issue is that he keeps trying to imply he's straight through certain comments about women, and I guess that just rubs people who are out the wrong way. 🤷
Edward Wilson82 Edward Wilson82 Member
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#46 ·
Daniel Wilson5 said:Treating homophobia...

Homophobia: basically a profound lack of love for one's own gender, which inevitably morphs into a deep-seated resentment toward anyone else who actually feels that connection... It’s the delusional belief that one specific way of loving is inherently superior and, therefore, should be forced upon everyone else.
Audre Lorde

For way too long, we’ve treated same-sex attraction and relationships as if they were the primary crisis facing our society. But let's be clear: the connection between two people isn't the issue. The actual social rot is homophobia—the endless, exhausting ways people choose to degrade others simply because of who they love or how they identify...
In many cultures, same-sex relationships are widely accepted as just another normal part of the human experience. But here in America, we still have people who cling to the idea that sexual contact between two men is somehow diseased or immoral... and they go even further when it comes to women, acting as if any kind of intimacy between them is either fundamentally wrong or simply impossible. It's exhausting...
This piece dives into how to spot homophobia within yourself and in those around you. It explores why this prejudice actually ends up hurting heterosexual people too, digs into the root causes behind the bias, and looks at what the path toward healing really looks like...

How to spot homophobia in yourself and others...
There are four distinct, yet deeply interconnected, layers to homophobia: personal, interpersonal, institutional, and cultural...
Personal homophobia is essentially just a prejudice rooted in the deep-seated belief that anyone identifying as lesbian, gay, or bisexual is somehow sinful, immoral, broken, or simply "less than" a heterosexual person... or just an incomplete man or woman. It shows up through fear, discomfort, dislike, or even outright hatred toward same-sex attraction. And honestly? Anyone can experience it, regardless of their own orientation. When someone in the LGBTQ+ community experiences those exact same feelings toward themselves, we call that internalized homophobia...
Just like heterosexuals, lesbians, gay men, and bisexuals are conditioned to believe that same-sex attraction is somehow inferior to being straight. A lot of people end up internalizing that nonsense... it becomes this deep-seated struggle where true self-acceptance feels almost impossible. They just swallow the stigma attached to being queer without ever realizing their own shame is actually a byproduct of societal pressure. It’s a vicious cycle. One result is that many people go to extreme lengths to hide who they really are; others desperately try to deny or "fix" their orientation; and some, tragically, end up driven to suicide...
Interpersonal homophobia isn't some abstract societal concept; it’s driven by raw, personal prejudice. It manifests through the small, ugly stuff—slurs, cheap jokes, verbal harassment, or even physical aggression. It's just one person targeting another... purely out of individual hate.
At its most extreme, interpersonal homophobia manifests as physical violence—people attacking lesbians, gay men, and bisexuals simply because they can't stomach their existence. But for most, that fear shows up in much quieter, more insidious ways. It’s the family members who suddenly find reasons to avoid their queer relatives; it’s the coworkers who become cold and distant the moment they realize someone isn't straight; it’s the "friends" who suddenly lose all interest the second you mention your partner... It's a subtle, constant withdrawal.
Institutional homophobia isn't just about individual prejudice; it’s much deeper than that. It refers to the systemic ways the government, major corporations, religious institutions, and other organized bodies discriminate against people based on their sexual orientation. In academic circles, this is also known as heterosexism... It's baked right into the system.
Institutional homophobia shows up in all sorts of ways. You see it in religious organizations that cling to rigid rules preventing LGBTQ+ individuals from leading services... you see it in agencies that flatly refuse to provide essential resources or support to those same communities... and you see it in government bodies that simply fail to protect equal rights for every citizen, regardless of who they love. It’s everywhere...
Cultural homophobia essentially boils down to those ingrained social norms and standards that dictate one version of reality: the idea that being heterosexual is inherently superior, or more "moral," than being a lesbian, gay, or bisexual. It’s this pervasive assumption that everyone is—or absolutely ought to be—straight. In academic circles, we call this systemic bias heterosexism...
Cultural homophobia is baked into our daily lives through TV shows and commercials where every single character is straight. Every romantic connection features a man and a woman, and there’s this unspoken assumption that every "normal" kid will naturally be attracted to the opposite sex and eventually marry them. In those rare instances where lesbians, gay men, or bisexual women and men actually get screen time, they’re usually portrayed through tired tropes—depicted as miserable, stuck in stereotypes, prone to self-destruction, or constantly questioning their own identity...

So, how does homophobia end up hurting straight people too?
While homophobia and heterosexism clearly target lesbians, gay men, and bisexual individuals through everything from verbal harassment to physical violence and systemic erasure, the fallout isn't limited to them. It hits straight people as well. By enforcing these rigid, suffocating definitions of what "appropriate" sexual behavior looks like, society limits everyone's ability to enjoy genuine sensual connections or emotional intimacy with the same sex. There's even a lingering fear that being too close to a friend of the same sex might lead others to label you as gay or lesbian. These anxieties create unnecessary stress and emotional rigidity, which can ultimately sabotage even heterosexual relationships.
Homophobia frequently tears families apart when parents discover their child is a lesbian, gay, or bisexual. Honestly, wouldn't life be much better if we just kept our families intact by supporting and respecting all our relatives, regardless of who they love?
In a society where the achievements of LGBTQ+ individuals are either hidden or actively disparaged, straight people end up living with a warped view of reality. They essentially learn about life through a single lens, ignoring the vast experiences, skills, and wisdom that lesbians, gay men, and bisexual people bring to the table. People could really enrich their own lives if they simply stayed connected with the LGBTQ+ community.
Denying equal rights to lesbians, gay men, and bisexual people inevitably leads to the erosion of rights for everyone else. Historically, American governments that most aggressively suppressed gay people were also the ones restricting others based on gender, race, ethnicity, religion, or class. If the LGBTQ+ community can be targeted for discrimination, then any other group in this country is vulnerable. If we truly believe in freedom and individual rights, we have to value all people and the differences that make a pluralistic society work.

What actually drives homophobia?
Personal homophobia—those deep-seated prejudices—is primarily fueled by ignorance. Much like sexism and racism, people are essentially taught how to be homophobes. Even with accurate information readily available, outdated myths about the LGBTQ+ community continue to circulate in American culture. Very few children receive unbiased information; instead, many adults cling to stereotypes learned in childhood, while certain religious and conservative organizations continue to peddle falsehoods.
Interpersonal homophobia, involving bullying and individual discrimination, can be understood through social psychology and its link to prejudice. People who are uncomfortable with their own sexuality, or who feel threatened by same-sex attraction, tend to be extremely rigid about what is considered "correct" behavior. They often try to punish others or force their beliefs onto lesbians, gay men, and bisexual people.
Institutional homophobia is driven, in part, by the struggle for power. Modern societies often create scapegoats just to maintain the status quo and protect those currently in charge. Throughout this century, various groups—including Jews, Black Americans, Asian Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, women, and the LGBTQ+ community—have been blamed for a wide array of social and economic issues. When scapegoating works, the dominant group avoids having to take responsibility for injustice or give up their hard-won privileges.
Cultural homophobia is mostly driven by societal norms that dictate what counts as "acceptable" sexuality. Same-sex contact has existed in every society throughout history and has been openly embraced in many cultures. However, Western civilization tends to be repressive toward almost all forms of sexuality, unless it’s strictly for procreation or occurs within the framework of a heterosexual marriage. Because of this, same-sex attraction often becomes a target for fear and condemnation...

Is there a cure for homophobia?
Homophobia is widespread in America and many other places. Since we are all products of our environment, most of us carry some level of homophobia, regardless of our own sexual orientation.
Dealing with homophobia constructively starts with acknowledging that it exists everywhere. We can't just flip a switch and erase these ingrained feelings, but if we are willing to admit that these biases are present in all of us, we can take responsibility for our choices and change how we act.
Beyond acknowledging its ubiquity, here is what we can actually do:
Identify homophobia—not homosexuality—as the actual problem that needs solving. When talking with friends or colleagues, address homophobia directly. For too many people, discussions about lesbians, gay men, or bisexuals only happen through the lens of homophobic jokes or slurs.
Look at the parallels between homophobia and other forms of prejudice. Applying what we know about racism, sexism, or classism can help us better understand homophobia and find effective ways to push back against it.
Listen to the lived experiences of the LGBTQ+ community and assume their accounts of oppression are valid and true. Similarly, we should accept that the way lesbians, gay men, and bisexuals navigate the world is fundamentally different from the way heterosexuals experience it.
Actively support anti-discrimination efforts and campaigns aimed at dismantling homophobic prejudice and violence.

Dr. Livia Puljak

Is a parent being homophobic if they ask their son if he likes any particular girl?
Is a parent homophobic just because they want their kid to be straight?
Is someone homophobic for knowing the difference between a vagina and an anus?
Is a parent homophobic for demanding that, if something happens to them, their child be adopted by a man and a woman rather than two people of the same sex?
Is a kid without parents being "homophobic" if they want a mom and a dad instead of two moms?
Is nature itself—the very thing that made reproduction between a man and a woman possible, rather than between two men or two women—being homophobic?

And one last thing. If you were that kid losing your parents, would you actually want to be adopted by a man and a woman, or two people of the same sex?
redharbor9 redharbor9 Regular
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#47 ·
Ryan Wood98 said:Could someone please explain how the host of "Red Carpet" managed to end up on a list of top homophobes?

I don't follow the show very closely, so I'm not entirely sure what he actually said or did, but from what I have seen of the program, it honestly feels quite... how should I put this... homoerotic?

From what I can tell, he only ever focused on the fringe elements of the gay community—basically just the people looking for clout and TV time. He didn't give a damn about regular folks or actual issues, so yeah, he basically did a great job feeding into those tired old stereotypes...
Daniel Wilson5 Daniel Wilson5 Active MemberOP
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#48 ·
Edward Wilson82 said:Is a parent being homophobic if they ask their son if he likes any particular girl?
Is a parent homophobic just because they want their kid to be straight?
Is someone homophobic for knowing the difference between a vagina and an anus?
Is a parent homophobic for demanding that, if something happens to them, their child be adopted by a man and a woman rather than two people of the same sex?
Is a kid without parents being "homophobic" if they want a mom and a dad instead of two moms?
Is nature itself—the very thing that made reproduction between a man and a woman possible, rather than between two men or two women—being homophobic?

And one last thing. If you were that kid losing your parents, would you actually want to be adopted by a man and a woman, or two people of the same sex?

Is it homophobia to commit Ana Dragičević to a mental asylum?
Is it homophobia to physically assault people at a Pride parade?
Is it homophobia to get fired simply because you're gay?
Is it homophobia to verbally abuse someone based on their sexual orientation?
Etc...
Lisa Hernandez3 Lisa Hernandez3 Active Member
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#49 ·
Edward Wilson82 said:The whole concept of "homophobia" is just one of those constructs cooked up by gay intellectuals that has zero connection to reality. Originally, the term was used in psychiatric jargon to describe an individual's fear of their own homosexual inclinations. But then, activists hijacked the word and redefined it to label any negative attitude, hatred, or supposed "fear" toward homosexuals.
As a rhetorical weapon, its sole purpose is to discredit, smear, and belittle anyone standing against homosexual behavior or its legalization. Naturally, they don't bother pointing out that this includes all opponents universally. In the public eye, activists will slap the "homophobe" label on actual violent bigots—like skinheads, for instance—to shift focus onto those specific character flaws and show why those people oppose homosexuality. But in practical discourse, they’ll pin the "homophobe" tag on anyone who thinks homosexual behavior is bad, abnormal, or harmful. If they want to be honest, we should demand that activists and lawyers actually explain the difference between a homophobe and someone who simply opposes homosexuality without being one.

Furthermore, the term "homophobia" frames opposition to homosexuality as a mental illness. This gives activists a certain kind of thrill since homosexuality was removed from the list of psychiatric disorders back in 1973. Now, suddenly, they're the healthy ones, and anyone speaking out against them is mentally ill. It's obvious to everyone that a stroke of a pen doesn't fix a disorder, nor can it make someone mentally unstable.

Thirdly, the term "homophobia" acts as a semantic stand-in for "racism," intended to signal to the public that opposing homosexuality is equivalent to racial prejudice against minorities.
Basically, these different angles of "homophobia" serve to silence and shame opponents. That way, when someone disagrees with homosexuality, its behavior, its legalization, or pride parades... they can be immediately branded as either mentally ill or a racist.

Bottom line: "homophobia" is a load of nonsense invented by gay pundits to use as a rhetorical club against anyone in their way.

I think that's all quite inaccurate. I mean, just as social prejudices are declaredly attached to the people they target, theoretically, the label of homophobe could also be applied to someone—somewhat arbitrarily or opportunistically, without much thought. But, I suppose that isn't the main point. The important thing is that homophobia is studied as a legitimate phenomenon by researchers—there are actually sociological surveys used to measure levels of homophobia. So, it isn't just some arbitrary weapon for arguing, nor is it strictly a political issue. It's possible to study any social prejudice using scientific methods. And while they might share certain traits, not all social prejudices are direct equivalents to racism.
Lisa Hernandez3 Lisa Hernandez3 Active Member
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#50 ·
redharbor9 said:From what I can tell, he only ever focused on the fringe elements of the gay community—basically just the people looking for clout and TV time. He didn't give a damn about regular folks or actual issues, so yeah, he basically did a great job feeding into those tired old stereotypes...

And then there was that one person—I couldn't recall her name for a second, though I could easily look it up: super Silva—who decided she was a lesbian and spent every single week talking about her girlfriend. So, what was that all about? Besides that, most of the stuff on Red Carpet feels like a collection of oddballs; honestly, I don't see much difference between the straight trashy types and the gay ones.🤷
Edward Wilson82 Edward Wilson82 Member
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#51 ·
Daniel Wilson5 said:Is it homophobia to commit Ana Dragičević to a mental asylum?
Is it homophobia to physically assault people at a Pride parade?
Is it homophobia to get fired simply because you're gay?
Is it homophobia to verbally abuse someone based on their sexual orientation?
Etc...

I'm looking for answers here. Thanks.
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
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#52 ·
Gary James88 said:Gay people deserve the exact same rights as any other citizen in this country.
But let’s be real: expecting everyone to suddenly embrace them or champion their cause just because of some "awareness" campaign is pure fantasy.
At the end of the day, people are entitled to their own views, opinions, and even their prejudices.


Honestly, you guys are getting exhausting with all this gay stuff. 🙄I can't even start a single thread without one of you jumping down my throat.
So what? I'm homophobic and I don't want to change. I have a right to my opinion. It's not like I want to hear about gays and lesbians and their love lives. Legion put it perfectly. If you turn this forum into a gay site, we'll just move to other pages. Or go ahead and start a separate PDF to hang out there. But I don't have to read it.☕
And again, I have a right to my own opinion.😁
Edward Wilson82 Edward Wilson82 Member
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#53 ·
redharbor9 said:Maybe you could try answering using the same method you use for everything else—just ignoring it? 😍

Here’s one for you:
Is nature being "homophobic" just because biological reproduction requires a man and a woman, rather than two men or two women?
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
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#54 ·
granitefalcon26 said:Honestly, you guys are getting exhausting with all this gay stuff. 🙄I can't even start a single thread without one of you jumping down my throat.
So what? I'm homophobic and I don't want to change. I have a right to my opinion. It's not like I want to hear about gays and lesbians and their love lives. Legion put it perfectly. If you turn this forum into a gay site, we'll just move to other pages. Or go ahead and start a separate PDF to hang out there. But I don't have to read it.☕
And again, I have a right to my own opinion.😁

I don't quite grasp the logic behind you starting threads with "gay" right in the title, let alone being the one to reply to them.🤷

So what? I'm homophobic and I have no intention of changing my mind.

You realize, of course, that's your prerogative—provided that your personal views don't infringe upon anyone else's rights, right?
To put it simply: I am perfectly entitled to think whatever I want about you, but as long as I'm not actively sabotaging your life or livelihood, it’s nobody's business.
redharbor9 redharbor9 Regular
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#55 ·
Edward Wilson82 said:Here’s one for you:
Is nature being "homophobic" just because biological reproduction requires a man and a woman, rather than two men or two women?

Homophobia is a social construct directed at people, so your question is completely pointless 🙂 and if you really want to personify nature, then no, it's not homophobic. It doesn't harass, hate, or discriminate against anyone. If anything, biology is "gay-friendly" since it literally created them... so there's your answer.😍
Lisa Hernandez3 Lisa Hernandez3 Active Member
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#56 ·
redharbor9 said:I’m honestly not sure if this is meant to be a comment, a question, or if you're actually asking me something 😁

It feels more like a weirdly phrased observation disguised as a question. 😕
Seriously though, super Silva, have you actually watched that? She did that whole series of segments on RC about how she’s suddenly a lesbian, even introduced her girlfriend on the show—they were all over each other and whatnot. To me, it doesn't come across as homophobic at all.
There were segments about those fringe queer events, sure, but I think there are just as many reports on fringe straight stuff. Generally speaking, the segments tend to focus on outsiders—on both sides, really. So, my take would be that RC isn't homophobic; it's more that Delale, with all her performative stuff regarding her sexual orientation, has developed a bit of a bad reputation among the general public. 😁
redharbor9 redharbor9 Regular
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#57 ·
Lisa Hernandez3 said:It feels more like a weirdly phrased observation disguised as a question. 😕
Seriously though, super Silva, have you actually watched that? She did that whole series of segments on RC about how she’s suddenly a lesbian, even introduced her girlfriend on the show—they were all over each other and whatnot. To me, it doesn't come across as homophobic at all.
There were segments about those fringe queer events, sure, but I think there are just as many reports on fringe straight stuff. Generally speaking, the segments tend to focus on outsiders—on both sides, really. So, my take would be that RC isn't homophobic; it's more that Delale, with all her performative stuff regarding her sexual orientation, has developed a bit of a bad reputation among the general public. 😁

Yeah, I remember when super Silva "realized" she was a lesbian... I definitely saw plenty of posts online from frustrated macho dudes losing their minds over it. 😍
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
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#58 ·
redharbor9 said:Yeah, I remember when super Silva "realized" she was a lesbian... I definitely saw plenty of posts online from frustrated macho dudes losing their minds over it. 😍

🤣🤣

joooj, the whole thing was such a complete joke that it isn't even worth bringing up.🤦
Lisa Hernandez3 Lisa Hernandez3 Active Member
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#59 ·
Everything about RC is basically a joke—granted, sometimes the irony isn't quite as blatant as it could be, but it’s definitely there.
RC is really just a parody of the whole Red Carpet concept.
I don't think it's fair to jump to the conclusion that Delale is homophobic just because of the show's premise, which seems to treat everyone with the same level of irreverence. 🤷
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
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#60 ·
Lisa Hernandez3 said:Everything about RC is basically a joke—granted, sometimes the irony isn't quite as blatant as it could be, but it’s definitely there.
RC is really just a parody of the whole Red Carpet concept.
I don't think it's fair to jump to the conclusion that Delale is homophobic just because of the show's premise, which seems to treat everyone with the same level of irreverence. 🤷

I was actually thinking along much the same lines just a moment ago.
The Red Carpet segment mocks everything. And I mean EVERYTHING.
So, if someone like super Silva ends up on that list... well, honestly, how is anyone supposed to look the other way? How can you not take the piss? 🤷

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