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The social psychology of homophobia

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Participants Daniel Wilson5silentpilot6slywolf45redharbor9Gary James88Edward Wilson82Ryan Wood98silverviper23Lisa Hernandez3granitefalcon26gentlestag3casualharbor9lonegardenerJerry Cooper3nimblemaker52Morgan Rodriguez57Drew Bennett2fadedmason6coppergardener13coppergardener19Jerry Bennett5Tyler Myersmistymason1
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
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#81 ·
Daniel Wilson5 said:Zeus, I’m not even going to get into the debate over LGBTQ+ rights because, frankly, I find the whole concept questionable... But I do get why you’re so worked up. You’re clearly offended that I asked those girls if they found it creepy how you’re constantly hitting on them sexually. Don't try to hide behind "anxiety" when these poor women are just looking for a little bit of comfort or advice, only for you to turn it into something vulgar. It felt tasteless, and honestly, it turned out to be spot on—some of those girls actually responded, saying you were attacking and insulting them... Still, I suppose I should give you credit for pivoting your strategy. Now, instead of being direct, you lead with a crude joke, follow it up with a "just kidding" disclaimer, and then finally answer their questions like a proper doctor. Very subtle... Anyway, don't go getting all puffed up thinking I'm your competition. I really am not...

Why don't you scroll back through the thread and see where I actually insulted anyone?
As far as I can tell, my jokes about sex only rubbed one person the wrong way, and she happens to be married. I mostly just ignore her anyway.😁
If you really want to know, she's a total homophobe. 😁😛
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
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#82 ·
Daniel Wilson5 said:No thanks.
You’re just twisted for sexually stalking vulnerable, hurting, and lonely women on this anxiety forum and constantly hitting on them just to get laid. It's sick.


The fact that you even have thoughts like that makes you the weird one here. Besides, what you're doing is libel, so watch your step.☕
Truth is, I've never met any of the women from this anxiety forum in real life, nor have I ever tried to.
You're just twisting everything and making it sound dirty, which is a whole different story.
The internet is one thing, but real life is something else entirely.
If we're being totally honest, you were actually the one hitting on me for a while. Anyone can go back and read those threads on the anxiety board.☕
Then you tried starting that thread about gay rights over there. When that didn't get the reaction you wanted, you decided to start this thread instead.🙄
Daniel Wilson5 Daniel Wilson5 Active MemberOP
53 messages
joined Feb 2010
#83 ·
granitefalcon26 said:The fact that you even have thoughts like that makes you the weird one here. Besides, what you're doing is libel, so watch your step.☕
Truth is, I've never met any of the women from this anxiety forum in real life, nor have I ever tried to.
You're just twisting everything and making it sound dirty, which is a whole different story.
The internet is one thing, but real life is something else entirely.
If we're being totally honest, you were actually the one hitting on me for a while. Anyone can go back and read those threads on the anxiety board.☕
Then you tried starting that thread about gay rights over there. When that didn't get the reaction you wanted, you decided to start this thread instead.🙄

Slander is actually a crime, and honestly, you’d be the first one facing legal trouble if someone filed a harassment claim against you over those posts regarding the LGBTQ+ community. I admit I have my own issues, but beyond that, you’re just lying about your height and build because you’re a pathological liar. Everything you wrote in this thread is a fabrication; the truth is the exact opposite... So, on top of being a complete wreck, you're a moral monster too. I find you pretty repulsive, so please, don't bother addressing me again. Don't take it personally, but I have zero interest in engaging with yet another self-important, ego-driven, unfulfilled, homophobic, potentially closeted little doctor... Thread closed.
Daniel Wilson5 Daniel Wilson5 Active MemberOP
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joined Feb 2010
#84 ·
casualharbor9 casualharbor9 Active Member
168 messages
joined Feb 2010
#85 ·
Back when I was just a kid, we used to make fun of anyone who was overweight...

stupidity + malice = social phobia
lonegardener lonegardener Regular
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#86 ·
gentlestag3 said:I wonder what actually makes someone non-homophobic?

For me, I just can't stand those intense activists out there, you know? The ones marching in those over-the-top, almost carnival-style outfits, or those aggressive women fighting for specific gay rights... it just feels a bit much.
But look, I don't have an issue with people (meaning, I treat gay folks just like anyone else), and as long as everything is legal, whatever happens behind closed doors is their business.

So, does that make me homophobic? I guess it’s more that I dislike one specific type of person—not because of who they love, but because of this constant need to prove that gay and lesbian people need a special, distinct status in society. It just feels unnecessary, I suppose.

At the end of the day, everyone is a human being first, and most rights stem from that basic humanity. Personally, I don't see myself as a "heterosexual man" first; I just see myself as a man.

edit: maybe I used too strong a word when I said "hate"—it's more like I just don't really care for it.

To be honest, I don't care if something is legal or not—I only care about my own perspective. 😍

Why should I worry about the law? There are too many governments and too many different sets of rules. 🤷

Laws only matter to me in a "practical sense"—I'd prefer not to end up in prison. But when it comes to morality, philosophy, or ethics... the law is completely irrelevant to me.
casualharbor9 casualharbor9 Active Member
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#87 ·
lonegardener said:To be honest, I don't care if something is legal or not—I only care about my own perspective. 😍

Why should I worry about the law? There are too many governments and too many different sets of rules. 🤷

Laws only matter to me in a "practical sense"—I'd prefer not to end up in prison. But when it comes to morality, philosophy, or ethics... the law is completely irrelevant to me.

Spot on. "Law" and "justice" are two entirely different concepts.
It’s up to us to bridge that gap as much as we can.
Jerry Cooper3 Jerry Cooper3 Member
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joined Oct 2011
#88 ·
If you look back a century, people were busy mocking women simply because they weren't even granted the right to vote; fast forward to today, and we see women leading entire governments and commanding nations
Just fifty years ago, Black Americans were treated as if they were somehow inferior, yet here we are, having seen a Black man ascend to the presidency of the USA!
Looking ahead, I fully expect that within twenty-five years, the LGBTQ+ community will have achieved full legal equality and all their rights secured!
Jerry Cooper3 Jerry Cooper3 Member
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joined Oct 2011
#89 ·
I honestly fail to grasp the logic behind it; if someone identifies as straight, why on earth should they harbor any particular concern regarding whether another individual is gay?
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
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#90 ·
Jerry Cooper3 said:I honestly fail to grasp the logic behind it; if someone identifies as straight, why on earth should they harbor any particular concern regarding whether another individual is gay?

You totally missed my point. It’s not about whether I personally care if someone is gay or not. ☕
casualharbor9 casualharbor9 Active Member
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#91 ·
Jerry Cooper3 said:If you look back a century, people were busy mocking women simply because they weren't even granted the right to vote; fast forward to today, and we see women leading entire governments and commanding nations
Just fifty years ago, Black Americans were treated as if they were somehow inferior, yet here we are, having seen a Black man ascend to the presidency of the USA!
Looking ahead, I fully expect that within twenty-five years, the LGBTQ+ community will have achieved full legal equality and all their rights secured!

???
Women in Switzerland didn't even get the right to vote until 1971.
http://www.swissworld.org/en/people/...right_to_vote/
And what about the hundreds of millions in the Islamic world?

Fifty years ago, Black people were considered an inferior race, and today we have a Black man as President of the USA!
I expect that within 25 years, the LGBTQ+ community will have all their rights too!

That’s an optimistic way of looking at it. The pessimistic view is that we'll be striking flint just to try and start a fire...
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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joined Feb 2007
#92 ·
casualharbor9 said:???
Women in Switzerland didn't even get the right to vote until 1971.
http://www.swissworld.org/en/people/...right_to_vote/
And what about the hundreds of millions in the Islamic world?

Fifty years ago, Black people were considered an inferior race, and today we have a Black man as President of the USA!
I expect that within 25 years, the LGBTQ+ community will have all their rights too!

That’s an optimistic way of looking at it. The pessimistic view is that we'll be striking flint just to try and start a fire...

Well, I suppose we all know that Switzerland is probably one of the most stubborn countries in Europe. ☕
nimblemaker52 nimblemaker52 Member
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joined Mar 2008
#93 ·
How am I just now discovering this incredible thread? 🥳

When it comes to homophobia, you have to stay indifferent until it starts affecting them personally—their ears, their mouths ☕. Only then should we start broadcasting gay sex during prime time, continuing until they become completely desensitized 🙂 and even the most conservative grandmother doesn't blink an eye while she's clutching her prayer beads.
I’ve lived my entire life as a straight man, and yet nobody ever questions me. I am constantly bombarded with straight movies, straight series, straight commercials, straight documentaries, straight photoshoots, and straight books. ☕
Enough with this tyranny of yours, straight people. 🙂
Daniel Wilson5 Daniel Wilson5 Active MemberOP
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joined Feb 2010
#94 ·
nimblemaker52 said:How am I just now discovering this incredible thread? 🥳

When it comes to homophobia, you have to stay indifferent until it starts affecting them personally—their ears, their mouths ☕. Only then should we start broadcasting gay sex during prime time, continuing until they become completely desensitized 🙂 and even the most conservative grandmother doesn't blink an eye while she's clutching her prayer beads.
I’ve lived my entire life as a straight man, and yet nobody ever questions me. I am constantly bombarded with straight movies, straight series, straight commercials, straight documentaries, straight photoshoots, and straight books. ☕
Enough with this tyranny of yours, straight people. 🙂

Exactly. I’m the one who started this thread, and after days of staring at a blank screen waiting for some actual substance to show up, you finally appeared... so everything finally makes sense. You're the first person here who actually speaks my language. I'm signing on to that 100%!!!!🙏
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
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#95 ·
slywolf45 said:Fair enough.
Awareness is vital, sure.
But how exactly do you reach the crowd that still views homosexuality as some kind of pathology—people who don't even grant that specific "profession" any legitimacy or legal standing in the first place?🤷
Most folks know the term "homophobia" exists, but I highly doubt anyone is going to look in the mirror and admit, "Yeah, I'm a homophobe."

Personally, I find concepts like internalized homophobia much more compelling to unpack right now.

What profession are we talking about here? Psychiatrists? You know, the American Psychiatric Association—the very group that was responsible for being the first to finally strip homosexuality off their list of mental disorders...
Drew Bennett2 Drew Bennett2 Member
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#96 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:What profession are we talking about here? Psychiatrists? You know, the American Psychiatric Association—the very group that was responsible for being the first to finally strip homosexuality off their list of mental disorders...

A little hint: maybe the professionals responsible for the very PDF being discussed 🤷.
fadedmason6 fadedmason6 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#97 ·
So, homophobia...

Honestly, what a load of crap...

I already brought this up in another thread once. I asked my mom if being gay was a bad thing. She gave me a hard "yes," and even when I tried to explain that it’s not some kind of illness, she just shrugged and said, "Gay people are just gay," basically refusing to budge. Meanwhile, there’s a lesbian in our family—she just doesn't know about me yet. Based on my experience so far, I’m guessing this is how the average American thinks. People just hold onto these random opinions they've picked up and refuse to listen to anything else. Most of these debates feel pointless, especially on a forum. I think someone like that might only change their mind if someone close to them comes out. My mom is a pretty hardcore homophobe, so if I ever decide to come out to her, I’ll definitely report back so we can see if even the most old-fashioned people can change 🙂

Homophobia is fueled by historical regimes, low IQ, lack of education, and a total inability to empathize. I honestly don't get how anyone can hate or deny rights to someone based on who they love; it feels inhumane. Lesbians and gay men always get judged for their sex lives, yet it's actually the straight crowd that seems obsessed with sex, which is why they nitpick everyone else's orientation. Anyway, I’m not going to waste my energy on this right now; I have bigger things to deal with. If the time ever comes where I need to tell my mom and the rest of the family (like if I'm in a serious relationship with a girl), I'll do it. But just think about it: is it really human to freeze out someone you've loved your whole life just because of who they love? We'll see...
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
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#98 ·
Drew Bennett2 said:A little hint: maybe the professionals responsible for the very PDF being discussed 🤷.

It really would be helpful to understand the actual reasoning behind why it was removed from the list of disorders—if that removal was driven more by political maneuvering than by actual science... I mean, the article itself isn't exactly neutral, it's definitely got a bias, but there's still plenty of useful info to dig through here:

http://conservativecolloquium.wordpr...-of-disorders/
coppergardener13 coppergardener13 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2010
#99 ·
Homophobia is just a sickness—nothing more. Get treated and run the other way...
fadedmason6 fadedmason6 Member
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#100 ·
coppergardener13 said:Homophobia is just a sickness—nothing more. Get treated and run the other way...

Are you kidding me? You're pretty much one of the top homophobes we see popping up in these threads all the time. If I felt like it, I could easily drop some of your most offensive posts right here as quotes.

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