The social psychology of homophobia

Edward Wilson82 said:I'm looking for answers here. Thanks.

Women definitely have the upper hand here...🙂😍

slywolf45 said:🤣🤣

joooj, the whole thing was such a complete joke that it isn't even worth bringing up.🤦

It was pretty nasty. Silva has some serious mental health issues and she's completely spiraled.

I’m still waiting on an answer regarding your orientation... you mentioned being queer, but that’s such a broad term. Come on, I’m genuinely curious. 🙂

I can't believe I actually said that out loud! Honestly, I should probably just keep my thoughts to myself more often, haha. But hey, sometimes you just have to let it rip! kaže:
I honestly don't get why you even bother starting threads with "homo" in the title, let alone actually replying to them.🤷

Look, I get it. It's your right, absolutely—as long as you aren't stepping on anyone else's toes to make your point.
Look, I can think whatever negative things I want about you, but as long as I'm not actually stepping on your toes or messing with your life, it's nobody's business.

I’m not out to hurt anyone. I have zero interest in marching in any Pride parades, and I'm certainly not looking to lecture you guys. Legion hit the nail on the head. Honestly? I couldn't care less what you all think.
Opening like fifty different threads for every single PDF could really come back to bite you guys.😉

granitefalcon26 said:

I can't believe I actually said that out loud! Honestly, I should probably just keep my thoughts to myself more often, haha. But hey, sometimes you just have to let it rip! kaže:
I honestly don't get why you even bother starting threads with "homo" in the title, let alone actually replying to them.🤷

Look, I get it. It's your right, absolutely—as long as you aren't stepping on anyone else's toes to make your point.
Look, I can think whatever negative things I want about you, but as long as I'm not actually stepping on your toes or messing with your life, it's nobody's business.

I’m not out to hurt anyone. I have zero interest in marching in any Pride parades, and I'm certainly not looking to lecture you guys. Legion hit the nail on the head. Honestly? I couldn't care less what you all think.
Opening like fifty different threads for every single PDF could really come back to bite you guys.😉

Don't overplay your hand.
It’s pretty obvious this bothers you so much that when you spot one thread, it feels like you've stumbled upon thirty.
I still don't quite grasp why you even bother starting a topic like this just to come here and argue.
Are those two or three threads on a random message board really that impossible to simply ignore?😕

Take me, for example. I’m not into, say... BDSM.
It’s just not my thing; I don't practice it, and frankly, I don't see the appeal. So, when I see a thread about it, I just don't click. Why would I? Just to tell everyone else they aren't "normal" or whatever? 😕😕

But fine... you're basically admitting to being homophobic, so it seems your issue goes a bit deeper than just internet browsing.

zeusxl said:haligali is a lesbian.😁

Oh, wow. I'm absolutely reeling. ☕

Well, looks like the kids are getting fired up, haha. I feel for them, really, but this isn't actually about me—it’s about homophobia. And for the record, I’m still claiming queer. To save everyone some confusion, I’ll drop a little context on the term here... maybe then things will click:

Queer (disambiguation).

.[1]Historically, "queer" just meant something was odd or out of the ordinary. Nowadays, however, it's most commonly used within the LGBTQ+ community (gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, intersex, and non-normative heterosexual) circles. The word itself carries quite a bit of baggage; it saw massive shifts throughout the 20th century when various groups began reclaiming it as a tool for empowerment. While some still find it offensive or derogatory, many others view it as a reclaimed label for any sexual orientation or gender identity that refuses to fit into the narrow boxes of heteronormative society.

So, you're a straight woman with some unconventional tastes... back where I grew up, we didn't bother with fancy 🤣 English terms when there was a perfectly good old-school American word for it... Degenerate 😁 👍
I suppose "queer" sounds a bit more sophisticated to some than calling someone a "total degenerate," 🤣 but that's just how it is 👍

Perhaps it would be more effective if we stuck to English here.😉

The term "queer" essentially serves as an umbrella term designed to encompass the entire spectrum of homosexual, bisexual, transgender, and intersex communities while also including heterosexual individuals who choose to live their lives outside the traditional constraints of hetero-patriarchal norms.
.....

Nowadays, however, you see the "queer" identity being embraced by practitioners of S&M, various fetishists regardless of their orientation, and anyone else who simply refuses to subscribe to the binary concepts of gender and sex..

There you have it.

Zeus Daniel Wilson5 said:Daniel Wilson5, if you're going to be such a loud advocate for LGBTQ+ rights, maybe you should start by being honest about who you actually are... 😉😁

Zeus, I’m not even going to get into the debate over LGBTQ+ rights because, frankly, I find the whole concept questionable... But I do get why you’re so worked up. You’re clearly offended that I asked those girls if they found it creepy how you’re constantly hitting on them sexually. Don't try to hide behind "anxiety" when these poor women are just looking for a little bit of comfort or advice, only for you to turn it into something vulgar. It felt tasteless, and honestly, it turned out to be spot on—some of those girls actually responded, saying you were attacking and insulting them... Still, I suppose I should give you credit for pivoting your strategy. Now, instead of being direct, you lead with a crude joke, follow it up with a "just kidding" disclaimer, and then finally answer their questions like a proper doctor. Very subtle... Anyway, don't go getting all puffed up thinking I'm your competition. I really am not...

Goodness.
What kind of values do you all think drive homophobia? I mean, if someone were actually conducting a study, what would they find it correlates with—perhaps an intense focus on family values, a high degree of patriotism, practical religious observance, or even the belief that abortion is murder?
If you had to take a guess, what other factors might be linked to it?

Lisa Hernandez3 said:Goodness.
What kind of values do you all think drive homophobia? I mean, if someone were actually conducting a study, what would they find it correlates with—perhaps an intense focus on family values, a high degree of patriotism, practical religious observance, or even the belief that abortion is murder?
If you had to take a guess, what other factors might be linked to it?

hmmm, linking it to abortion being murder????🤷

Daniel Wilson5 said:hmmm, linking it to abortion being murder????🤷

To rephrase my question—what specific set of values is homophobia actually tied to?

Lisa Hernandez3 said:To rephrase my question—what specific set of values is homophobia actually tied to?

I feel like I’m sitting for a midterm here... are you perhaps a professor???
just enlighten us already

Daniel Wilson5 said:I feel like I’m sitting for a midterm here... are you perhaps a professor???
just enlighten us already

Well, since this is your topic, I assumed you had a specific angle in mind, which is why I asked. The question is actually pretty straightforward—anyone who has ever dealt with a homophobe can probably identify the general type of personality (or worldview) involved. Though, I suppose it isn't always that black and white—someone could be homophobic and yet still be... well, a professor, for instance!
I'm certainly not a professor, though I suppose I am a professional chatter, if you want to call it that.

Lisa Hernandez3 said:To rephrase my question—what specific set of values is homophobia actually tied to?

With a set of values consisting of nothing but absolute nonsense and shouting "Go Yankees, Go Yankees, GO YANKEES! 😁

It’s obvious just from looking at the lyrics... they aren't singing about some random vulgarities; instead, they're acting like an intolerant, hateful parent. 🤣 They really feel the need to bring up different biological organs 😬 just to make a point.

Lisa Hernandez3 said:Well, since this is your topic, I assumed you had a specific angle in mind, which is why I asked. The question is actually pretty straightforward—anyone who has ever dealt with a homophobe can probably identify the general type of personality (or worldview) involved. Though, I suppose it isn't always that black and white—someone could be homophobic and yet still be... well, a professor, for instance!
I'm certainly not a professor, though I suppose I am a professional chatter, if you want to call it that.

Jesus (sweating profusely while frantically Googling for an answer), maybe fanaticism???

Uh, found it. THE ANSWER, PROFESSOR, IS PREJUDICE!!!

silentpilot6 said:With a set of values consisting of nothing but absolute nonsense and shouting "Go Yankees, Go Yankees, GO YANKEES! 😁

It’s obvious just from looking at the lyrics... they aren't singing about some random vulgarities; instead, they're acting like an intolerant, hateful parent. 🤣 They really feel the need to bring up different biological organs 😬 just to make a point.

Oh, how absolutely terrifying... 😂

I wonder what actually makes someone non-homophobic?

For me, I just can't stand those intense activists out there, you know? The ones marching in those over-the-top, almost carnival-style outfits, or those aggressive women fighting for specific gay rights... it just feels a bit much.
But look, I don't have an issue with people (meaning, I treat gay folks just like anyone else), and as long as everything is legal, whatever happens behind closed doors is their business.

So, does that make me homophobic? I guess it’s more that I dislike one specific type of person—not because of who they love, but because of this constant need to prove that gay and lesbian people need a special, distinct status in society. It just feels unnecessary, I suppose.

At the end of the day, everyone is a human being first, and most rights stem from that basic humanity. Personally, I don't see myself as a "heterosexual man" first; I just see myself as a man.

edit: maybe I used too strong a word when I said "hate"—it's more like I just don't really care for it.

redharbor9 said:From what I can tell, he only ever focused on the fringe elements of the gay community—basically just the people looking for clout and TV time. He didn't give a damn about regular folks or actual issues, so yeah, he basically did a great job feeding into those tired old stereotypes...

Man, then it could arguably be called heterophobic too, considering the show also seems to focus solely on freaks from the hetero population who are just looking for TV fame and attention, while ignoring 🙄normal people
entirely.

I suppose I should mention that xguru hasn't shared any updates lately. It seems they might be stepping back from the conversation for a while, though I can't say for certain. Perhaps they are just busy with other matters. kaže:
Is a parent being homophobic if they request that, should anything happen to them, their child be adopted by a man and a woman rather than a same-sex couple? I suppose it depends on how one defines the term, though I imagine it’s a complicated question. Maybe there are underlying motivations involved that aren't strictly rooted in prejudice, or perhaps there is. It seems like a nuanced situation where intentions and personal beliefs intersect.

That’s probably true. I suppose he would care deeply about his child being raised by good people—people who will actually love them and look after them—regardless of their gender.

I suppose I should probably address the points raised by xguru regarding the recent market shifts. It seems there is a growing consensus that we might be overlooking certain underlying vulnerabilities in the current economic landscape. I guess one could argue that while the immediate indicators look positive, the long-term stability remains somewhat uncertain. Perhaps it would be wise to remain cautious as we move forward. kaže:
Is a child who expresses a desire for both a mother and a father, rather than two mothers, being homophobic? I suppose one might wonder if such a preference stems from bias, though I suspect the reality is likely more complex. It seems possible that a child is simply reacting to the traditional family structures they see around them or perhaps just expressing a fundamental longing for both parental figures. I guess it isn't necessarily an act of prejudice, but rather a reflection of how they perceive the world at their current stage of development.

It is possible that this child was raised in an environment shaped by homophobic attitudes, which might naturally lead to certain predispositions toward becoming homophobic themselves. 🤷
In our society, I believe that most children are raised with homophobic views. If they don't inherit those biases from their parents, then they likely pick them up from the environment around them.