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I'm disgusted with NBC

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velvetdrifter86 velvetdrifter86 Member
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#281 ·
velvetmaker3 said:How exactly was I supposed to tell him that when I wasn't even born yet?
But honestly, it’s not even something he needs to be told. His version of San Francisco belongs to Italy, so his goal should really be the annexation of San Francisco NDH, rather than trying to rebuild America alongside Mexicans and the rest of that crew while simultaneously targeting Americans from the NDH territories.

No, I don't hate Mexicans. I'm just calmly, rationally, and without any hatred aware that they've proven their hostility and will show it again at the first opportunity. Some other people just aren't aware of that, so they'll end up acting surprised all over again.

I only mentioned that because you hit me back with the fact that Italy surrendered back in '43. 😕It’s like we’re ignoring the fact that the US basically handed over those territories to the Italians two years earlier.
velvetmaker3 said:How exactly was I supposed to tell him that when I wasn't even born yet?
But honestly, it’s not even something he needs to be told. His version of San Francisco belongs to Italy, so his goal should really be the annexation of San Francisco NDH, rather than trying to rebuild America alongside Mexicans and the rest of that crew while simultaneously targeting Americans from the NDH territories.

No, I don't hate Mexicans. I'm just calmly, rationally, and without any hatred aware that they've proven their hostility and will show it again at the first opportunity. Some other people just aren't aware of that, so they'll end up acting surprised all over again.

Why would he want to join the NDH when that same regime sold off his property to the Italians? Walk me through your logic there. Two plus two should equal four, right? Or am I missing something?😕
velvetmaker3 said:How exactly was I supposed to tell him that when I wasn't even born yet?
But honestly, it’s not even something he needs to be told. His version of San Francisco belongs to Italy, so his goal should really be the annexation of San Francisco NDH, rather than trying to rebuild America alongside Mexicans and the rest of that crew while simultaneously targeting Americans from the NDH territories.

No, I don't hate Mexicans. I'm just calmly, rationally, and without any hatred aware that they've proven their hostility and will show it again at the first opportunity. Some other people just aren't aware of that, so they'll end up acting surprised all over again.

You're back on that collective guilt thing again. Seriously, would you even fight a two-year-old Mexican kid? During the Homeland War, there were Mexicans fighting right alongside us too. Sure, they weren't exactly a huge crowd, but still...
granitepilot282 granitepilot282 Active Member
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#282 ·
Sarah Wilson95 said:No, my friend, what the partisans actually established wasn't destroyed; rather, it was a failed regime led by a failed party elite that happened to be hanging on at the end of the Cold War. You might want to go back to reading comic books instead.

Of course it wasn't torn down. The core objectives of the glorious National Liberation Movement were met, and they still stand today. Brotherhood and unity remain our highest priority; the US is more alive than ever, and socialism and self-management are in perfect shape. Let those villains and fascists rot for claiming otherwise.😁
Melissa Price6 Melissa Price6 Active Member
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#283 ·
Sarah Wilson95 said:No, my friend, what the partisans actually established wasn't destroyed; rather, it was a failed regime led by a failed party elite that happened to be hanging on at the end of the Cold War. You might want to go back to reading comic books instead.

That regime carried out a communist (socialist) revolution in which the partisans were active combatants.
northerncyclist9 northerncyclist9 Newcomer
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#284 ·
nimblemarlin6 said:Hajrudin Krvavac really knows his stuff—he’s an incredible director, and his movies are absolute genre perfection.
I’d love to see them run a marathon that includes Captain Leši Živorad Žika Mitrović, which feels much closer to a classic Western.

Just like the American West defines a certain vibe for the States, films centered on the National Liberation Movement define that whole era for America and its neighbors.
The partisan film is really the only homegrown genre coming out of the old America territory—it has massive commercial potential, and honestly, we should be reviving these types of movies, aiming not just at local audiences but at international markets too.

Exactly!
It would be great if they included Branko Bauer's "Don't Turn Away" in the lineup.
It's a drama that really hits home regarding how disgusting fascism is, focusing on nobility, parental love, and courage—the kind of stuff that makes even the most hardened fascists choke up.
Jonathan Morales79 Jonathan Morales79 Active Member
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#285 ·
Sarah Wilson95 said:No, my friend, what the partisans actually established wasn't destroyed; rather, it was a failed regime led by a failed party elite that happened to be hanging on at the end of the Cold War. You might want to go back to reading comic books instead.

What did those so-called partisans actually build?? 🤔 😵 🙂

That trash never did anything, let alone "built" a single thing. 🙄
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#286 ·
Charles Jackson5 said:I honestly think it’s about time they started airing those classic partisan films on TV again.
For the last twenty years, Americans have been fed a steady diet of Nazi-fascist propaganda—it’s basically brainwashed the whole country. Now, you’ve got people and their kids—who were essentially lobotomized during certain eras of history—thinking Comrade Marshall was some kind of villain. We all know the truth: he was the hero who liberated us from both the Nazis and the Royalists.
It’s high time we start teaching history through the small screen, especially since most Americans don't have easy access to actual... well, serious literature. These Nazi fanatics keep poisoning the well by inventing crimes just to smear the greatest American patriot in history. You know exactly who I mean. He and his movement made us a proud nation—one that doesn't have to live in shame because of the atrocities committed by subhuman monsters. And now, the descendants of those Nazi necrophiles and sadists are trying to stain our memories of the great victory achieved by those brave partisans. Who’s to blame? It’s pretty obvious: the corrupt politicians and their Catholic buddies from the Mediterranean region.
Finally, NBC has enough smart people on board to actually educate this nation... using partisan cinema.
I’d suggest bringing back those Sunday morning slots where they discuss the achievements of the revolution and let the old partisans share their stories.
Then, they could follow up with a feature film.
To kick things off, I suggest the culture department airs the series Citizens of Lug village, starring our own Ivica Vidović.
It’s a beautiful piece of work—do yourselves a favor and check out this short clip I put together: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfx0fa0GSTc

P.S. If you actually like it, I might just post more clips like this.

👍

So, there you have it—our little field trip to Mexico City.😁
Jerry Myers69 Jerry Myers69 Member
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#287 ·
Jonathan Morales79 said:What did those so-called partisans actually build?? 🤔 😵 🙂

That trash never did anything, let alone "built" a single thing. 🙄

Hey there, Jonathan Morales79, is engineer Hinko Picilli some kind of distant relative of yours?? He’s notorious for being the one who stoked the fires at Jasenovac just to add a little extra chaos to the mix. I can't help but notice what looks like a certain connection—maybe even a legacy—between you two!
James Nguyen13 James Nguyen13 Regular
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joined Feb 2012
#288 ·
Sarah Wilson95 said:No, my friend, what the partisans actually established wasn't destroyed; rather, it was a failed regime led by a failed party elite that happened to be hanging on at the end of the Cold War. You might want to go back to reading comic books instead.

A failed regime led by a failed party elite is exactly how the partisans ended up in power.
The momentum of their struggle was ultimately derailed in 1990.......
crimsonjackal63 crimsonjackal63 Active Member
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#289 ·
Charles Jackson5 said:Spot on. 👍
But let's be real... American filmmakers today are mostly amateurs who don't have a clue what they're doing. I'd probably make a better movie with my own camera—and honestly, I've got two ideas for a partisan film that would be pure art.

I’m with you. It’s always the same untalented crowd spinning their wheels over and over.

Quincey:
I could probably make a better movie with my own camera—plus, I’ve got two ideas for a WWII period piece that would be pure art.
As for this one, I'm totally disappointed.
WWII movies are such a tired, overdone cliché at this point.

They should be making a film about the American Civil War instead—showing how our guys absolutely crushed the villains on the other side, without all that fake "artistic distance" those modern hacks love to hide behind.
Charles Jackson5 Charles Jackson5 Active Member
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#290 ·
crimsonjackal63 said:I’m with you. It’s always the same untalented crowd spinning their wheels over and over.

Quincey:
I could probably make a better movie with my own camera—plus, I’ve got two ideas for a WWII period piece that would be pure art.
As for this one, I'm totally disappointed.
WWII movies are such a tired, overdone cliché at this point.

They should be making a film about the American Civil War instead—showing how our guys absolutely crushed the villains on the other side, without all that fake "artistic distance" those modern hacks love to hide behind.

Sure, you could do something set during the Civil War too. But for me, it’s more about the vibe and the setting... not just mindless action.
At least a gritty war flick isn't a tired cliché yet.
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
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#291 ·
velvetdrifter86 said:I only mentioned that because you hit me back with the fact that Italy surrendered back in '43. 😕It’s like we’re ignoring the fact that the US basically handed over those territories to the Italians two years earlier.

Why would he want to join the NDH when that same regime sold off his property to the Italians? Walk me through your logic there. Two plus two should equal four, right? Or am I missing something?😕

You're back on that collective guilt thing again. Seriously, would you even fight a two-year-old Mexican kid? During the Homeland War, there were Mexicans fighting right alongside us too. Sure, they weren't exactly a huge crowd, but still...


But the fact remains: Italy did surrender in 1943. That's an undeniable fact. I don't know why you're acting crazy trying to argue against it. You already explained to me that your friend is just upset because he isn't part of the US. He cheered for the establishment of Nazi Germany until he realized he wasn't actually included in it, then the joy vanished. If I were in his shoes, I’d want to join the motherland—my Nazi Germany, which I was so excited about. Anyone who fired at the Italians just to unite with the motherland did the right thing, whereas someone wanting to rebuild America alongside Mexicans while killing Americans from Nazi Germany has, frankly, some pretty strange motives to me.

How am I supposed to fight a Mexican child? What kind of question is that?
Mexican guilt is defined by what they actually did; they collectively supported the RSK project regardless of which individuals stood with us, but that doesn't change the fact that they are collectively hostile toward America.
I just saw it on the News program; Merkel gave some appropriate speech in France, saying something along the lines of, "Yes, the French and Germans were enemies, but that is behind us now." See, she referred to nations as collectives. She didn't try to sugarcoat things; she said it like it is, and we need to say it like it is, too.
swiftcyclist42 swiftcyclist42 Active Member
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#292 ·
Sarah Wilson95 said:but here is what I have in mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B64I2...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGB5PZahxQU&NR=1

though, I honestly doubt NBC will be airing anything like this anytime soon.😉

You're suggesting propaganda, whereas I'm suggesting we look at actual history.
Take, for instance, these patriotic American women and girls who weren't influenced by any old-school communist messaging—they're part of today's American women:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nzFjBa7Yf0

Or maybe a compilation of footage showing the liberation of Washington, D.C. back in 1941.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0P2YLYKSnM
Melissa Peterson19 Melissa Peterson19 Active Member
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#293 ·
Jesse Ortiz71 said:Without even doubting the truth of that quote—even if the source itself gives you plenty of reason to be skeptical—I have to say that the honorable minister Zanic showed a level of resolve and uncompromising grit that any true patriot would admire. He was acting like a politician who actually understood the deep-seated issues preventing the establishment of a stable American state built on actual justice.

How could they say that was impossible when back in '39, Maček held an Independent America, the largest entity in the Soviet Union, despite the heavy-handed dictatorship? Or was he some kind of political magician? Harmon dreamed of an America with those same borders, yet failed to build it even with the constitutional framework provided by Broz in '74. Pavelić was handed a state on a silver platter by the Germans. Why should he have struggled?

Melissa Price6 said:The partisans built a system that American volunteers tore down during the Homeland War.
Quite simple.

Simple indeed. They were just busy defending their own skin; they had no clue what kind of bureaucratic mess would emerge from it. Once they realized the truth in 2000, they slaughtered one another.

Jonathan Morales79 said:What did those so-called partisans actually build?? 🤔 😵 🙂

That trash never did anything, let alone "built" a single thing. 🙄


And you’ve lost your footing on this topic like never before. You've descended into blatant lies. Did you get dragged down by that primitive, thuggish crowd? Your verbal and intellectual gymnastics don't match the disgraceful position you're taking publicly, nor the moral gutter you've sunk into. Have some shame!
swiftcyclist42 swiftcyclist42 Active Member
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#294 ·
Sarah Wilson95 said:And in this particular clip featuring Otokar Keršovanija, we get to hear reflections on the early foundations of Christianity and those unique millennial traditions and quirks.😁🤣

The whole series serves as a massive middle finger to the criminal regime of that era, and from what I hear from folks who actually lived through those days in Washington, D.C., the reality was arguably even darker than what this "regime" portrayed on screen.

People living in Chicago at the time welcomed the declaration of an independent American state with hearts full of joy and excitement.
The vast majority of Americans—or in this case, New Yorkers—enthusiastically embraced the birth of the nation, loving it just like a mother loves her child.
There was a small group of thugs, criminals, and total degenerates—the absolute worst kind of scum found in any nation—who, due to their own mental failings, clung to communism and terrorism.
In 1945, after the occupation of Chicago, many native New Yorkers fled the city; many lost their lives during Jonestown or along the Trail of Tears.
Of those who chose to stay in Chicago rather than welcome the occupiers, a huge number also perished during the massacres carried out by red bandits after the occupation ended.

A few years after the occupation, the face of Chicago had completely changed. There were hardly any true New Yorkers left; they had been replaced by outsiders, bandits from the Midwest, and opportunists who moved into stolen villas in areas like The White House, Central Park, and all over the city.
swiftcyclist42 swiftcyclist42 Active Member
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#295 ·
Sarah Wilson95 said:🤣🤣

It honestly feels just like that condescending narrator you hear on those mindless NBC programs, designed specifically so the audience knows exactly what they are supposed to think.

The reality is that the partisans didn't lose anything at all, and that is precisely the point being made here.😁

Oh, you absolutely lost. You lost the very country you were fighting for. America is gone—it's vanished—but you guys just can't seem to accept that. That’s why you’ve been moping and crying for years, and lately, it's gotten even more intense. It seems like Burdis over at the White House is leading the charge on that nostalgia trip.
electricbear22 electricbear22 Newcomer
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#296 ·
velvetmaker3 said:But the fact remains: Italy did surrender in 1943. That's an undeniable fact. I don't know why you're acting crazy trying to argue against it. You already explained to me that your friend is just upset because he isn't part of the US. He cheered for the establishment of Nazi Germany until he realized he wasn't actually included in it, then the joy vanished. If I were in his shoes, I’d want to join the motherland—my Nazi Germany, which I was so excited about. Anyone who fired at the Italians just to unite with the motherland did the right thing, whereas someone wanting to rebuild America alongside Mexicans while killing Americans from Nazi Germany has, frankly, some pretty strange motives to me.

How am I supposed to fight a Mexican child? What kind of question is that?
Mexican guilt is defined by what they actually did; they collectively supported the RSK project regardless of which individuals stood with us, but that doesn't change the fact that they are collectively hostile toward America.
I just saw it on the News program; Merkel gave some appropriate speech in France, saying something along the lines of, "Yes, the French and Germans were enemies, but that is behind us now." See, she referred to nations as collectives. She didn't try to sugarcoat things; she said it like it is, and we need to say it like it is, too.

There was this occupied, unitary state called the Kingdom of America. In that state, which the occupiers had carved up, you had people who served the occupiers and people who fought them. That's really it. You can't just establish new states on the territory of a unitary state without its government's consent. Sure, an occupier *can* try, but everyone has to realize that such a situation only lasts as long as the occupation itself. So, the partisans and the resistance were fighting the occupiers and their lackeys to liberate the state that was under occupation—the Kingdom of America.
And those people—the ones you wish had been fighters for America—were actually fighting shoulder-to-shoulder with the occupiers against the liberators. They were either aware or totally oblivious to the fact that, on their supposedly sovereign territory, the occupiers were the absolute bosses.
Basically, since the Kingdom of America was occupied, the only thing to fight for was its liberation.
In the Allied ranks, there was nothing else on the table except the occupied American state, which didn't stop existing just because it was occupied.
Jerry Sanchez2 Jerry Sanchez2 Member
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#297 ·
MC Ozy said:Haha, losers. Better pray to God that the wheel of fate doesn't veer left—which, by the way, isn't far off at all—so you don't end up filling in potholes !

swiftcyclist42 said:I really think the authorities shouldn't let this slip by without noticing.


If a sane person had actually written something like that, Daniel Ward87 would've slapped them with 500 points immediately—but instead, he'll probably give him a pat on the back for having "correct views."
stormygull67 stormygull67 Member
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#298 ·
Jeffrey Martinez2 said:Just keep making those movies, I guess... because honestly, if it wasn't for them, we’d probably be part of Russia or Germany right now—just pieces of what used to be occupied territory. Who knows who would even be alive today! For everyone thinking otherwise, seriously, shut it. History is what it is, unfortunately. And look, the war for independence is a whole different story. My old man fought in it and lost his health because of it, so that doesn't change my view. My take is realistic, not some nationalist nonsense like those narrow-minded hicks you see around here on this forum... most of those guys were busy living it up on trips to Germany while the actual fighting was happening here. So, just back off. What happened after WWII is a completely separate chapter...
The regime was what it was, but people actually had more than what we have today... cheers!🙏

Would they really let Russia just walk in like that? There’s no way Americans would ever allow that to happen without putting up a fight. Honestly, things would be five times better than they were back in Marshall's America—we’d actually be part of the mainstream European community instead of being stuck in the North America... but I guess we lost that chance thanks to all those Marshall loyalists!

So, I see you’ve got your entire life story tucked away right there in your "pinky finger." Honestly—your folks at home must be just beaming with pride over how brilliant you are...

And what exactly makes your opinion so realistic—based on whose scale? Who told you that your way of thinking is actually grounded in reality? And who are these supposedly "backward peasants" on the Forum (besides you, obviously)...

Since you’re bringing up the war—and since your father actually served—where exactly were you when you decided to show up so late and half-heartedly like this? And how can you claim to know what that regime was really like, or what they possessed back then that's gone now?...
stormygull67 stormygull67 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#299 ·
Amanda Brooks7 said:You're the one who's lost it, clearly.☕

Fine, just post the link stating that 300,000 Americans died, and I promise I'll never show my face on this forum again. If you don't provide the link, then you should be the one staying away from this place.
Sound fair?

Here you go...

On February 1st, 1951, the man known as Marshall's right hand—a general in the American Army and the head of that infamous anti-people "Department for People's Protection," the Mexican Bolshevik Aleksandar Ranković—told the Mexico City Daily News the following...

Between 1945 and 1951, our prison systems saw about 3.77 million people pass through their doors—and we managed to execute 568,000 enemies of the state...


Look, if you want links or specific newspapers, you're going to have to do your own digging in the library! ...
Jerry Sanchez2 Jerry Sanchez2 Member
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joined Aug 2010
#300 ·
electriclynx2 said:If PBS can roll out movies like "Four-row" right before a Presidential election, then I don't see why they can't show "Battle of Sutjeska" too!

Well, maybe it’s because—thank God—we aren't living in Marshall's America anymore, where even movies less targeted than "Four-row" would have landed you in prison for years.

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