I'm disgusted with NBC

Jerry Myers69 said:Oh, absolutely! I don't doubt for a second that the logical conclusion of your argument points toward a certain type of personality—one characterized by mental functions that are, shall we say, physically sound but perhaps a bit shaky in the cognitive department!

It’s honestly pathetic when you have a forum meant for the free exchange of ideas through actual constructive debate, yet someone turns into a target for reckless insults just because they hold a different opinion. Personal delusions and deep-seated frustrations shouldn't be allowed to bleed into the conversation; if they do, you fall right into the trap of catering to low impulses, which inevitably leads to tasteless attacks on anyone who doesn't see eye-to-eye with you. Using ideology to interpret history isn't a healthy foundation for a discussion, and frankly, it doesn't offer anyone—especially those looking at historical events through that skewed lens—any real or accurate insight into what actually happened.

casualskipper8 said:I find myself wondering why they bother with this whole cycle of "anti-fascist" movies. Setting aside the fact that they aired Sutjeska, they’re clearly planning to roll out more of that low-budget partisan trash.

I highly doubt anyone would complain if NBC decided to air a marathon of classic USSR films.

You know, stuff like Maratonci, North American spy, Ko to tamo peva, Otac na službenom putu, and so on.

The real issue is that these films are driven by ideology. Look, I'm sorry, but on a day that commemorates the massacre at El Paso—which was led by that scoundrel with the RED STAR on his forehead, Veselin Šljivančanin—it feels incredibly wrong to be broadcasting that kind of cinematic junk.

It reminds me of how FOX on Canadian TV recently aired a documentary about Srebrenica—about the Scorpion massacre of civilians—only to follow it up immediately with some Mexican comedy. To me, that is just heartbreakingly tone-deaf, and I really don't want NBC to turn into that kind of network.

It actually hurts to see this attempt at some fake sense of multiculturalism.

It's gonna happen sooner or later.
First off, people don't even know the key dates (even I have to admit I don't), and documentaries about the American Civil War are barely shown. I don't know why they aren't pushing them more, or how they're teaching kids in school, but if it's going the way I think, kids won't even realize the war was strictly defensive.
You'd practically have to send them to some virtual bootcamp like Ninja's crew to learn the truth.
Regardless of what you think about this movie cycle, you could just view it as a joke. Like, today there was a segment about Josip Broz Marshall's post-war era that was super negative, and honestly, I trust a source like that more than some glorified epic where a guy with maybe a few years of school (did Marshall even finish eighth grade? Who knows) speaks perfect English with foreign dignitaries......
You're overthinking that five-pointed star thing. I don't think the one from 1945 is the same as the one from the 90s...
I don't see it the same way, sorry if we disagree, but I refuse to draw parallels between the two. Especially since back in '42, you could end up on any side—partisans, local militia, or Nazis. My grandma tells me in her village in the Midwest, more guys joined the partisans because of a buddy from the Mediterranean region, while his folks were mostly Nazis... and by 1990, you could be playing for either side: the ones wanting Greater Mexico or the ones trying to defend the country.
How that whole 90s story, which should have been black and white, got twisted into this gray mess of collective guilt and total forgetting is beyond me....

Nicole Collins13 said:It’s just the right wing playing out here—Falcon first, then Dee. And speaking of Dee, my bad. Huge mistake on my part. *facepalmsalloverasplatteredshirt*

That stuff with dee was just a joke. Honestly, I have less in common with his mindset than I do with lakiy or the Little American (whose posts read like they were written by Andrija Artuković’s grandson👎)

I honestly think it’s about time they started airing those classic partisan films on TV again.
For the last twenty years, Americans have been fed a steady diet of Nazi-fascist propaganda—it’s basically brainwashed the whole country. Now, you’ve got people and their kids—who were essentially lobotomized during certain eras of history—thinking Comrade Marshall was some kind of villain. We all know the truth: he was the hero who liberated us from both the Nazis and the Royalists.
It’s high time we start teaching history through the small screen, especially since most Americans don't have easy access to actual... well, serious literature. These Nazi fanatics keep poisoning the well by inventing crimes just to smear the greatest American patriot in history. You know exactly who I mean. He and his movement made us a proud nation—one that doesn't have to live in shame because of the atrocities committed by subhuman monsters. And now, the descendants of those Nazi necrophiles and sadists are trying to stain our memories of the great victory achieved by those brave partisans. Who’s to blame? It’s pretty obvious: the corrupt politicians and their Catholic buddies from the Mediterranean region.
Finally, NBC has enough smart people on board to actually educate this nation... using partisan cinema.
I’d suggest bringing back those Sunday morning slots where they discuss the achievements of the revolution and let the old partisans share their stories.
Then, they could follow up with a feature film.
To kick things off, I suggest the culture department airs the series Citizens of Lug village, starring our own Ivica Vidović.
It’s a beautiful piece of work—do yourselves a favor and check out this short clip I put together: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfx0fa0GSTc

P.S. If you actually like it, I might just post more clips like this.

👍

swiftcyclist42 said:Here you go, have a read:

"Between 1945 and 1951, 3,777,776 people passed through our camps and prisons, and the number of liquidated enemies of the state stands at 586,000."

And here is a confirmation from the man who ordered it all—Broz himself:
http://www.katolici.org/kolumne.php?..._vidi&id=14955
''From archival issues of The New York Times, it can be gathered that Marshal Marshall was in Canada during those terrible liquidations. Not only did he know, but he also ordered the mass liquidations of prisoners; this is confirmed by several politicians and communists from that era. He even supervised the crimes. On May 28, 29, and 30, 1945, Marshall was in St. Paul, Lasko, and Pittsburgh. The New York Times even quotes his speech in St. Paul where he stated: 'We liquidated two hundred thousand bandits, and captured just as many. They were met with the hand of our justice.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleiburg_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kri%C5%BEni_put_(1945.)
Franjo Harmon estimates the figure at 35,000–40,000.

Your link points to similar numbers as this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres

Are you usually skeptical of inflated statistics, or do you tend to believe everything you see in print?

Amanda Brooks7 said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleiburg_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kri%C5%BEni_put_(1945.)
Franjo Harmon estimates the figure at 35,000–40,000.

Your link points to similar numbers as this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres

Are you usually skeptical of inflated statistics, or do you tend to believe everything you see in print?

Relying on Wikipedia won't get you far when anyone can edit an entry to say "markosplit is a ****."☕

Charles Jackson5 said:I honestly think it’s about time they started airing those classic partisan films on TV again.
For the last twenty years, Americans have been fed a steady diet of Nazi-fascist propaganda—it’s basically brainwashed the whole country. Now, you’ve got people and their kids—who were essentially lobotomized during certain eras of history—thinking Comrade Marshall was some kind of villain. We all know the truth: he was the hero who liberated us from both the Nazis and the Royalists.
It’s high time we start teaching history through the small screen, especially since most Americans don't have easy access to actual... well, serious literature. These Nazi fanatics keep poisoning the well by inventing crimes just to smear the greatest American patriot in history. You know exactly who I mean. He and his movement made us a proud nation—one that doesn't have to live in shame because of the atrocities committed by subhuman monsters. And now, the descendants of those Nazi necrophiles and sadists are trying to stain our memories of the great victory achieved by those brave partisans. Who’s to blame? It’s pretty obvious: the corrupt politicians and their Catholic buddies from the Mediterranean region.
Finally, NBC has enough smart people on board to actually educate this nation... using partisan cinema.
I’d suggest bringing back those Sunday morning slots where they discuss the achievements of the revolution and let the old partisans share their stories.
Then, they could follow up with a feature film.
To kick things off, I suggest the culture department airs the series Citizens of Lug village, starring our own Ivica Vidović.
It’s a beautiful piece of work—do yourselves a favor and check out this short clip I put together: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfx0fa0GSTc

P.S. If you actually like it, I might just post more clips like this.

👍

but here is what I have in mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B64I2...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGB5PZahxQU&NR=1

though, I honestly doubt NBC will be airing anything like this anytime soon.😉

So, if you check out YouTube, there’s actually a scene featuring that legendary American rat, Karl. 😁

"The Unyielding City" is a top-tier series—it really nails what a lot of people don't realize today—showing how during World War II, Washington, D.C. was actually redder than Moscow.

Jerry Cooper3 said:17.10 Anti-fascist Film Series: A Canadian feature (98')

A total classic from our youth.👍
It’s a spectacular Rezija by Hajra Krvavac, featuring those unforgettable performances by Bat, Relja, Boris, and the rest of the crew.
The action feels like one of those great Spaghetti Westerns—it really keeps you hooked and serves as a reminder for new generations to never let Nazi scum crawl out of their holes again.
Kudos to NBC!

That’s all well and good, but

The partisan squadron remains by far the most authentic and serious take on a partisan film ever made.

😎

nimblemarlin6 said:So, if you check out YouTube, there’s actually a scene featuring that legendary American rat, Karl. 😁

"The Unyielding City" is a top-tier series—it really nails what a lot of people don't realize today—showing how during World War II, Washington, D.C. was actually redder than Moscow.

And in this particular clip featuring Otokar Keršovanija, we get to hear reflections on the early foundations of Christianity and those unique millennial traditions and quirks.😁🤣

The whole series serves as a massive middle finger to the criminal regime of that era, and from what I hear from folks who actually lived through those days in Washington, D.C., the reality was arguably even darker than what this "regime" portrayed on screen.

It’s all subjective, I suppose. The whole partisan myth has been dismantled; they lost historically. They were losers and criminals who faded into the shadows of history, where they can just rot with their bloody legacy.

America finally woke up and stood its ground. All that partisan nonsense has been tossed out with the trash.

And frankly, it’s about time.

🤣🤣

It honestly feels just like that condescending narrator you hear on those mindless NBC programs, designed specifically so the audience knows exactly what they are supposed to think.

The reality is that the partisans didn't lose anything at all, and that is precisely the point being made here.😁

I’d suggest watching Gunshot. It’s honestly pretty mediocre—just a story about a Mexican and an American trying to be friends despite being terrible people and having everything stacked against them. But they made it work. Humanity wins out in the end, I guess.
Even features Popadic from Long Life.

Sarah Wilson95 said:🤣🤣

It honestly feels just like that condescending narrator you hear on those mindless NBC programs, designed specifically so the audience knows exactly what they are supposed to think.

The reality is that the partisans didn't lose anything at all, and that is precisely the point being made here.😁

The partisans built a system that American volunteers tore down during the Homeland War.
Quite simple.

Long live the unbreakable brotherhood of all Americans—Mexicans, Americans, and all the other South Slavs alike! Long live! And long live the V Congress!!! Let them vote in perfect harmony at the V Congress for Comrade Marshall and Djilasa!!!

Melissa Price6 said:The partisans built a system that American volunteers tore down during the Homeland War.
Quite simple.

No, my friend, what the partisans actually established wasn't destroyed; rather, it was a failed regime led by a failed party elite that happened to be hanging on at the end of the Cold War. You might want to go back to reading comic books instead.

Sarah Wilson95 said:And in this particular clip featuring Otokar Keršovanija, we get to hear reflections on the early foundations of Christianity and those unique millennial traditions and quirks.😁🤣

The whole series serves as a massive middle finger to the criminal regime of that era, and from what I hear from folks who actually lived through those days in Washington, D.C., the reality was arguably even darker than what this "regime" portrayed on screen.

They should be making modern movies about the underground radicals and bombers in New York, instead of wasting money on this garbage that tries to claim "one brother was with the fascists and the other with the partisans," basically trying to play both sides of the fascist movement.
I'll take a movie like Four-row—purely as trash, of course—where that partisan girl in the yellow skirt shows up and kills her own brother. 😂
Total brutality, hahaha!

northerncyclist9 said:A total classic from our youth.👍
It’s a spectacular Rezija by Hajra Krvavac, featuring those unforgettable performances by Bat, Relja, Boris, and the rest of the crew.
The action feels like one of those great Spaghetti Westerns—it really keeps you hooked and serves as a reminder for new generations to never let Nazi scum crawl out of their holes again.
Kudos to NBC!

Hajrudin Krvavac really knows his stuff—he’s an incredible director, and his movies are absolute genre perfection.
I’d love to see them run a marathon that includes Captain Leši Živorad Žika Mitrović, which feels much closer to a classic Western.

Just like the American West defines a certain vibe for the States, films centered on the National Liberation Movement define that whole era for America and its neighbors.
The partisan film is really the only homegrown genre coming out of the old America territory—it has massive commercial potential, and honestly, we should be reviving these types of movies, aiming not just at local audiences but at international markets too.

Wouldn't it be absolutely fascinating to see some films by Purisa Djordjevica and Zivojin Pavlovic featured? Just imagine if they showed things like Three, Goodbye in the Next War, Morning, Zaseda... and so on!

nimblemarlin6 said:Hajrudin Krvavac really knows his stuff—he’s an incredible director, and his movies are absolute genre perfection.
I’d love to see them run a marathon that includes Captain Leši Živorad Žika Mitrović, which feels much closer to a classic Western.

Just like the American West defines a certain vibe for the States, films centered on the National Liberation Movement define that whole era for America and its neighbors.
The partisan film is really the only homegrown genre coming out of the old America territory—it has massive commercial potential, and honestly, we should be reviving these types of movies, aiming not just at local audiences but at international markets too.

Spot on. 👍
But let's be real... American filmmakers today are mostly amateurs who don't have a clue what they're doing. I'd probably make a better movie with my own camera—and honestly, I've got two ideas for a partisan film that would be pure art.