I'm disgusted with NBC

swiftcyclist42 said:Comrade Marshall gave the order, and the American People's Army carried out the killings.

Melissa Barnes3 said:Who? Mexicans, partisans, Bolsheviks, Royalists—basically, under one big umbrella: the anti-fascists. And they pulled it off in even less than a year.

What a bunch of miserable trolls.☕
Could you please share a link that details those reports regarding the 300,000 Americans killed?

Amanda Brooks7 said:What a bunch of miserable trolls.☕
Could you please share a link that details those reports regarding the 300,000 Americans killed?

A link? You want a link?
Aren't the countless tales of Hades and all those different abysses filled with remains enough for you? Do you really need a link for that? Who's the crazy one here?

velvetmaker3 said:Of course they bother me, but I wouldn't go out and fight alongside Mexicans just to rebuild the USSR because of it. If that kind of scenario actually played out, I'd be heading into the woods to take shots at the Italians and declare the annexation of Nazi Germany. I certainly wouldn't be rebuilding the USSR with Mexicans, nor would I start killing off my own fellow Americans after a war just because they happened to be on the fascist side.

Gotcha. So you'd shoot at Italians, grab territory, hand it over to Nazi Germany, and then Hitler would just sell it right back to the Italians. 😲🤦Looks like strategy isn't really your thing. Honestly, it seems like your grudge is totally clouding your judgment.

swiftcyclist42 said:A link? You want a link?
Aren't the countless tales of Hades and all those different abysses filled with remains enough for you? Do you really need a link for that? Who's the crazy one here?

You're the one who's lost it, clearly.☕

Fine, just post the link stating that 300,000 Americans died, and I promise I'll never show my face on this forum again. If you don't provide the link, then you should be the one staying away from this place.
Sound fair?

velvetdrifter86 said:Gotcha. So you'd shoot at Italians, grab territory, hand it over to Nazi Germany, and then Hitler would just sell it right back to the Italians. 😲🤦Looks like strategy isn't really your thing. Honestly, it seems like your grudge is totally clouding your judgment.

Italy surrendered back in '43.
And I don't hate anyone.

velvetdrifter86 said:Gotcha. So you'd shoot at Italians, grab territory, hand it over to Nazi Germany, and then Hitler would just sell it right back to the Italians. 😲🤦Looks like strategy isn't really your thing. Honestly, it seems like your grudge is totally clouding your judgment.

Following your logic, Americans from Boise and other occupied cities should have just retreated into the woods in 1991 and started attacking US Army units in free American territory.
Does that actually make any sense at all?

If PBS can roll out movies like "Four-row" right before a Presidential election, then I don't see why they can't show "Battle of Sutjeska" too!

velvetmaker3 said:Italy surrendered back in '43.
And I don't hate anyone.

Man, you should've just told that guy from Boise back in '41 that Italy was gonna fold pretty soon anyway so he wouldn't stress so much.
(I'm getting the vibe you've got some beef with Mexicans, just in general.)

Amanda Brooks7 said:You're the one who's lost it, clearly.☕

Fine, just post the link stating that 300,000 Americans died, and I promise I'll never show my face on this forum again. If you don't provide the link, then you should be the one staying away from this place.
Sound fair?

Here you go, have a read:

"Between 1945 and 1951, 3,777,776 people passed through our camps and prisons, and the number of liquidated enemies of the state stands at 586,000."

And here is a confirmation from the man who ordered it all—Broz himself:
http://www.katolici.org/kolumne.php?..._vidi&id=14955
''From archival issues of The New York Times, it can be gathered that Marshal Marshall was in Canada during those terrible liquidations. Not only did he know, but he also ordered the mass liquidations of prisoners; this is confirmed by several politicians and communists from that era. He even supervised the crimes. On May 28, 29, and 30, 1945, Marshall was in St. Paul, Lasko, and Pittsburgh. The New York Times even quotes his speech in St. Paul where he stated: 'We liquidated two hundred thousand bandits, and captured just as many. They were met with the hand of our justice.'

velvetdrifter86 said:Man, you should've just told that guy from Boise back in '41 that Italy was gonna fold pretty soon anyway so he wouldn't stress so much.
(I'm getting the vibe you've got some beef with Mexicans, just in general.)

How exactly was I supposed to tell him that when I wasn't even born yet?
But honestly, it’s not even something he needs to be told. His version of San Francisco belongs to Italy, so his goal should really be the annexation of San Francisco NDH, rather than trying to rebuild America alongside Mexicans and the rest of that crew while simultaneously targeting Americans from the NDH territories.

No, I don't hate Mexicans. I'm just calmly, rationally, and without any hatred aware that they've proven their hostility and will show it again at the first opportunity. Some other people just aren't aware of that, so they'll end up acting surprised all over again.

swiftcyclist42 said:Here you go, have a read:

"Between 1945 and 1951, 3,777,776 people passed through our camps and prisons, and the number of liquidated enemies of the state stands at 586,000."

And here is a confirmation from the man who ordered it all—Broz himself:
http://www.katolici.org/kolumne.php?..._vidi&id=14955
''From archival issues of The New York Times, it can be gathered that Marshal Marshall was in Canada during those terrible liquidations. Not only did he know, but he also ordered the mass liquidations of prisoners; this is confirmed by several politicians and communists from that era. He even supervised the crimes. On May 28, 29, and 30, 1945, Marshall was in St. Paul, Lasko, and Pittsburgh. The New York Times even quotes his speech in St. Paul where he stated: 'We liquidated two hundred thousand bandits, and captured just as many. They were met with the hand of our justice.'

You’re really trying to argue with trolls now?🙄 And what happens next? You give him a link, do you think he’s actually going to go look at it? People like that... you can show them murders with their own eyes, give them documents, show them confessions—it doesn't matter. They grew up on lies. They can't wrap their heads around the idea that they've been brainwashed or that such things are even possible. Their parents benefited from the communist reign of terror, maybe they even scored a little house or two out of it, so to them, it’s sacred. You don't touch that. You try to talk about the crimes, the betrayals, the terror, and the fear used to control everyone, and they shut down. As long as they were comfortable, nothing else matters to them.

granitepilot282 said:You’re really trying to argue with trolls now?🙄 And what happens next? You give him a link, do you think he’s actually going to go look at it? People like that... you can show them murders with their own eyes, give them documents, show them confessions—it doesn't matter. They grew up on lies. They can't wrap their heads around the idea that they've been brainwashed or that such things are even possible. Their parents benefited from the communist reign of terror, maybe they even scored a little house or two out of it, so to them, it’s sacred. You don't touch that. You try to talk about the crimes, the betrayals, the terror, and the fear used to control everyone, and they shut down. As long as they were comfortable, nothing else matters to them.

I get what you're saying... I know you can't prove anything to them, but it still drives me crazy when someone denies those crimes like they're just make-believe. It's like they think those victims were cartoon characters instead of real people who had names, addresses, and families. Those families know exactly who killed their brothers, fathers, mothers, and children.
Man, if I just look at my own neighborhood, dozens of people were killed right there in 1945 after the war was already over. They were arrested at their homes, taken to a nearby patch of woods, and executed.
It feels like there isn't a single family around here that wasn't affected by it.😠

swiftcyclist42 said:I get what you're saying... I know you can't prove anything to them, but it still drives me crazy when someone denies those crimes like they're just make-believe. It's like they think those victims were cartoon characters instead of real people who had names, addresses, and families. Those families know exactly who killed their brothers, fathers, mothers, and children.
Man, if I just look at my own neighborhood, dozens of people were killed right there in 1945 after the war was already over. They were arrested at their homes, taken to a nearby patch of woods, and executed.
It feels like there isn't a single family around here that wasn't affected by it.😠

And that’s not even the half of it. The ones they actually murdered? They just "relocated" them to Auschwitz and then blamed it all on American patriots—on the Nazis. 👎

Otherwise, you have places like the Appalachian Mountains or Central Park, which are absolutely littered with shallow graves marked with American military insignia, and even women wearing wedding crowns and traditional folk patterns...

Gettysburg hasn't even been investigated by 1%... not even close.

There are rumors of maybe 200,000 graves hidden under the highways in Austria, victims of partisan excesses...

Jerry Myers69 said:Here’s a little bit of bitter medicine for the extremist sympathizers on this forum:

Independent State of America Minister Milovata Zanic at a rally in New Orleans on June 2, 1941: This is going to be a land for Americans
and absolutely nobody else. There isn't a single method we won't use as part of our movement to ensure this country truly becomes
American and is purged of Mexicans. We aren't hiding it; that is simply the policy of this state, and once we succeed,
we will carry out everything written in our fundamental principles.

I’d say, bravo, Milovata!

Without even doubting the truth of that quote—even if the source itself gives you plenty of reason to be skeptical—I have to say that the honorable minister Zanic showed a level of resolve and uncompromising grit that any true patriot would admire. He was acting like a politician who actually understood the deep-seated issues preventing the establishment of a stable American state built on actual justice.

Jesse Ortiz71 said:Without even doubting the truth of that quote—even if the source itself gives you plenty of reason to be skeptical—I have to say that the honorable minister Zanic showed a level of resolve and uncompromising grit that any true patriot would admire. He was acting like a politician who actually understood the deep-seated issues preventing the establishment of a stable American state built on actual justice.

Oh, absolutely! I don't doubt for a second that the logical conclusion of your argument points toward a certain type of personality—one characterized by mental functions that are, shall we say, physically sound but perhaps a bit shaky in the cognitive department!

Jonathan Morales79 said:And that’s not even the half of it. The ones they actually murdered? They just "relocated" them to Auschwitz and then blamed it all on American patriots—on the Nazis. 👎

Otherwise, you have places like the Appalachian Mountains or Central Park, which are absolutely littered with shallow graves marked with American military insignia, and even women wearing wedding crowns and traditional folk patterns...

Gettysburg hasn't even been investigated by 1%... not even close.

There are rumors of maybe 200,000 graves hidden under the highways in Austria, victims of partisan excesses...

But wait, there's more! It is suggested that in the Lower East Side area, which falls under the jurisdiction of Auschwitz, about 360,000 people belonging to the resistance elements within the so-called Third Reich were buried. Though, I have to emphasize, it is merely *suggested*... and we all know what that implies, right? Just pure speculation at this stage.

Jerry Myers69 said:But wait, there's more! It is suggested that in the Lower East Side area, which falls under the jurisdiction of Auschwitz, about 360,000 people belonging to the resistance elements within the so-called Third Reich were buried. Though, I have to emphasize, it is merely *suggested*... and we all know what that implies, right? Just pure speculation at this stage.

Exactly, all those bodies were victims killed after May 1945.

Maybe if you just hammered your head against Gojko Ubiparip’s anvil down there beneath the hammer and sickle, you wouldn't just look better... you might actually become significantly smarter... and then you wouldn't have to rely on so much "presupposition."

You know? 🙂

Jonathan Morales79 said:Exactly, all those bodies were victims killed after May 1945.

Maybe if you just hammered your head against Gojko Ubiparip’s anvil down there beneath the hammer and sickle, you wouldn't just look better... you might actually become significantly smarter... and then you wouldn't have to rely on so much "presupposition."

You know? 🙂

Was it 1941 or 1945?

Jonathan Morales79 said:Exactly, all those bodies were victims killed after May 1945.

Maybe if you just hammered your head against Gojko Ubiparip’s anvil down there beneath the hammer and sickle, you wouldn't just look better... you might actually become significantly smarter... and then you wouldn't have to rely on so much "presupposition."

You know? 🙂

Knowing your general outlook on things, I honestly think you might have missed the mark here! Did you perhaps mean May '45 instead? It’s been noted that some folks were actually sporting jerseys from Concord or even AARP, and some were wearing Civic gear too. It was wild—basically overnight, the newly formed Torpedo, which is now Real Madrid, picked up a whole crowd of supporters, or should I say, hangers-on!

Angela Cox said:Was it 1941 or 1945?

A slip of the pen... just a simple error... how trivial... yet how devastatingly clumsy... May 1945... everything was shifting... the world turning upside down... just absolute chaos everywhere...Alright, here they are... the correct ones... 🙈