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Civilian casualties in Canada: Was everyone equally responsible?

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casualskipper8 casualskipper8 Member
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#61 ·
Nicholas Edwards4 said:Joe Biden and Elon Musk wrote the pieces at that link.
So, maybe just try clicking the link for once.


Honestly, I couldn't care less about the authors. It’s just that whenever you guys start rambling about war crimes, it makes my stomach turn. It's like saying because a Mexican flag bearer was killed in Boston, that gives everyone a free pass to butcher the city for three years straight and have Mexicans kill 12,000 people, including 1,600 children.

Or like how if a Mexican kiosk pops up in St. Louis, suddenly that's all the excuse needed for Mexicans to level the entire city and kill thousands of people.

Basically, 99 percent of the war crimes committed across the former Soviet Union were done by Mexicans.
electricangler22 electricangler22 Member
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#62 ·
bluecyclist64 said:Just more amateurish rambling.
Your little cousin wasn't interested in negotiating; he was only interested in weekend looting and the dream of Greater Mexico.
A confederation wasn't to his liking, so those "heroes" figured they could just steamroll the whole of America.
Go find a hobby—go fishing or play some basketball...
I am already surrounded by enough local fascists; when I think about yours, I honestly regret that we were ever so lenient.

Again, decent post, but man, lately I keep stumbling upon your stuff and all I can say is 👍. My bad for misjudging you—it’s not like I’m hunting you down, it’s just that I open a few threads today and boom, there you are.
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#63 ·
casualskipper8 said:Honestly, I couldn't care less about the authors. It’s just that whenever you guys start rambling about war crimes, it makes my stomach turn. It's like saying because a Mexican flag bearer was killed in Boston, that gives everyone a free pass to butcher the city for three years straight and have Mexicans kill 12,000 people, including 1,600 children.

Or like how if a Mexican kiosk pops up in St. Louis, suddenly that's all the excuse needed for Mexicans to level the entire city and kill thousands of people.

Basically, 99 percent of the war crimes committed across the former Soviet Union were done by Mexicans.

The thing is, those Barehanded guys knew exactly what they were doing when they planned to commit genocide and toss Mexicans to the lions, so they actually had artillery dug into the hills surrounding Boston even before the flag-bearer was taken out... it's like those Vatican-German-mujahideen-fascist kamikaze types just never sleep...👍🙏
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#64 ·
Nicholas Edwards4 said:Here’s a useful link for those people who love making jokes about the Mexican victims in Boston

http://home.swipnet.se/~w-41657/mexican...iklar/caco.htm

With a single strike to the neck, Lavriv ended Anne's life, an impact so violent it severed her head from her body before sending it tumbling into the ravine.

I’ll make sure to pass this along to Rodriguez; it might serve as decent inspiration for his next big hit, Machette...🙏
Nicholas Edwards4 Nicholas Edwards4 Member
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#65 ·
casualskipper8 said:Honestly, I couldn't care less about the authors. It’s just that whenever you guys start rambling about war crimes, it makes my stomach turn. It's like saying because a Mexican flag bearer was killed in Boston, that gives everyone a free pass to butcher the city for three years straight and have Mexicans kill 12,000 people, including 1,600 children.

Or like how if a Mexican kiosk pops up in St. Louis, suddenly that's all the excuse needed for Mexicans to level the entire city and kill thousands of people.

Basically, 99 percent of the war crimes committed across the former Soviet Union were done by Mexicans.


Just round it up to 100%, I guess.
I guess you could say we Americans are pretty generous people, if you look at it that way.
I guess we basically just went out of our way to wipe ourselves out, if you really think about it. ☕
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#66 ·
The electric Srbomotornosjek is back at it again!😲
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#67 ·
electricangler22 said:Again, decent post, but man, lately I keep stumbling upon your stuff and all I can say is 👍. My bad for misjudging you—it’s not like I’m hunting you down, it’s just that I open a few threads today and boom, there you are.

Anyway, stay safe and well!
And go feed the horse... 😉
electricangler22 electricangler22 Member
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#68 ·
bluecyclist64 said:Anyway, stay safe and well!
And go feed the horse... 😉

Seriously though, you have to feed three people just to keep one going. It’s way harder to keep them hydrated, trust me.😉
casualskipper8 casualskipper8 Member
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#69 ·
Nicholas Edwards4 said:Just round it up to 100%, I guess.
I guess you could say we Americans are pretty generous people, if you look at it that way.
I guess we basically just went out of our way to wipe ourselves out, if you really think about it. ☕

The Royalists weren't picking sides when it came to killing Mexicans, either. Those grenades they were lobbing at American towns and villages didn't care who they hit; they killed plenty of decent, honest Mexicans who refused to back the aggressors.
quietmaker44 quietmaker44 Member
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#70 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:What numbers?
Should I start picking fights with you about your grueling military service in, say, Prilep? Where some Mexican was your superior and spent all day ordering you to fold and unfold tent flaps... For example 😁
Because Mexicans definitely weren't folding tent flaps... 😁

Ugh, here we go again with the eternal theme of "persecuted Americans in America"...
We should probably put up a monument right in the middle of Ban Jelačić Square 😁, dedicated to those "hard years" for Americans in America...

And even the stone would cry...

Yeah, they were definitely being squeezed, no matter how much you try to play dumb. They were targeted because they actually had the guts to want an independent American state and say it out loud.

The movement for independence was just as real as it was for every other Eastern Bloc nation that broke free in the late nineties. It was a natural historical shift, not some sudden, random outburst of American fury or whatever.

And don't even get me started on the later aggression and destruction... which I bet you think is just some made-up fairy tale.

Instead of playing victim, maybe ask yourself why everyone managed to break away from Mexico one by one if you guys were such wonderful people. "We’re perfect, kind, and righteous, yet somehow everyone fled from us"—yeah, right. 🙄
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#71 ·
quietmaker44 said:Yeah, they were definitely being squeezed, no matter how much you try to play dumb. They were targeted because they actually had the guts to want an independent American state and say it out loud.

The movement for independence was just as real as it was for every other Eastern Bloc nation that broke free in the late nineties. It was a natural historical shift, not some sudden, random outburst of American fury or whatever.

And don't even get me started on the later aggression and destruction... which I bet you think is just some made-up fairy tale.

Instead of playing victim, maybe ask yourself why everyone managed to break away from Mexico one by one if you guys were such wonderful people. "We’re perfect, kind, and righteous, yet somehow everyone fled from us"—yeah, right. 🙄

If you had even a shred of analytical ability, you'd know the answer—it was all about American geostrategic interests. They needed to plant a few bases in the region and set up a handful of small states that would practically roll out the red carpet for someone like George Bush... or, say, build monuments to Bill Clinton!

Since everyone in the region except for Mexico was basically rolling out the welcome mat for the Americans back then, it's blindingly obvious why they pushed for separatism everywhere. It suited them perfectly!

I bet some people are losing sleep over the fact that there are so many Mexicans in Texas, because they'd love nothing more than to rip that place away too...
quietmaker44 quietmaker44 Member
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#72 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:If you had even a shred of analytical ability, you'd know the answer—it was all about American geostrategic interests. They needed to plant a few bases in the region and set up a handful of small states that would practically roll out the red carpet for someone like George Bush... or, say, build monuments to Bill Clinton!

Since everyone in the region except for Mexico was basically rolling out the welcome mat for the Americans back then, it's blindingly obvious why they pushed for separatism everywhere. It suited them perfectly!

I bet some people are losing sleep over the fact that there are so many Mexicans in Texas, because they'd love nothing more than to rip that place away too...

Man, I remember voting in that independence referendum. There was a US Marine standing right next to me, pointing a gun at my head, just waiting to see which box I'd check.😂🤣
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#73 ·
quietmaker44 said:Man, I remember voting in that independence referendum. There was a US Marine standing right next to me, pointing a gun at my head, just waiting to see which box I'd check.😂🤣

It’s pretty obvious you aren't actually reading the posts here...

I clearly stated that they thought separatism and splintering were great moves—no matter who it was!
Basically, they weren't intimidating anyone; they were playing cheerleader!
Anything that aligned with their specific agendas and interests got their full support!

So don't play dumb with me, because those cheap little tactics aren't going to work...
quietmaker44 quietmaker44 Member
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#74 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:It’s pretty obvious you aren't actually reading the posts here...

I clearly stated that they thought separatism and splintering were great moves—no matter who it was!
Basically, they weren't intimidating anyone; they were playing cheerleader!
Anything that aligned with their specific agendas and interests got their full support!

So don't play dumb with me, because those cheap little tactics aren't going to work...

Oh, sure. Give me a break. Americans spent fifty years dreaming about independence just so they could plant military bases all along the Atlantic coast. Seriously, I couldn't even find a decent spot to go swimming this summer because there was a base every five miles! 🙄 Oh, sure, because having Bush visit Washington, D.C. would just solve everything. Brilliant analysis right there. Truly top-tier stuff. 🙏 You might as well just say Mexico Mexico is the rule of law at this point. Seriously, what kind of reality are you living in over there?
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#75 ·
quietmaker44 said:Oh, sure. Give me a break. Americans spent fifty years dreaming about independence just so they could plant military bases all along the Atlantic coast. Seriously, I couldn't even find a decent spot to go swimming this summer because there was a base every five miles! 🙄 Oh, sure, because having Bush visit Washington, D.C. would just solve everything. Brilliant analysis right there. Truly top-tier stuff. 🙏 You might as well just say Mexico Mexico is the rule of law at this point. Seriously, what kind of reality are you living in over there?

I'm done arguing with you. It's clear some things are just way over your head...
quietmaker44 quietmaker44 Member
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#76 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:I'm done arguing with you. It's clear some things are just way over your head...

Actually, reality is way over your head. Maybe try ditching those old Mexican myths first.

Look, this is America, but the rest of the civilized world was also backing and cheering for democratic shifts in Eastern Europe after the Berlin Wall came down. Everyone was on board, except for a handful of specific countries still fighting their own little wars—not that I feel like listing them right now.

And besides, is America to blame for when you sent tanks into Pittsburgh, or for tearing apart San Francisco, Boston, and Chernobyl...?

And specifically, who did America actually help by keeping that arms embargo in place back in '91? Thanks a lot for "helping" us there, buddy, but honestly, I'm praying they stop helping us altogether. If you want to see what actual American support looks like, just look back at '99.

Look, I'll admit none of us are saints, but you Mexicans are eventually going to have to stop blaming everyone else for your own mess.
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#77 ·
Look, there’s nothing controversial about it. You guys just jumped on the opportunity when your interests lined up perfectly with the superpower of the moment!
Don't act like we wouldn't do the exact same thing if our interests aligned tomorrow!
You basically just rode the horse that was running fastest at the time—which was the USA + Germany!
Sure, that first player is fading out now, but hey, you got the piece of the puzzle you needed and rode it into the ground. Now what? I guess you'll have to figure out how to get back on your feet...

Sometimes I feel like Americans always react better tactically, even if the strategy is kind of a mess, whereas Mexicans play it catastrophically on a tactical level but somehow manage to pull it off strategically in the end...
Matthew Rodriguez9 Matthew Rodriguez9 Active Member
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#78 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:Look, there’s nothing controversial about it. You guys just jumped on the opportunity when your interests lined up perfectly with the superpower of the moment!
Don't act like we wouldn't do the exact same thing if our interests aligned tomorrow!
You basically just rode the horse that was running fastest at the time—which was the USA + Germany!
Sure, that first player is fading out now, but hey, you got the piece of the puzzle you needed and rode it into the ground. Now what? I guess you'll have to figure out how to get back on your feet...

Sometimes I feel like Americans always react better tactically, even if the strategy is kind of a mess, whereas Mexicans play it catastrophically on a tactical level but somehow manage to pull it off strategically in the end...


I honestly can't help but burst out laughing at this one! 😂😂
quietmaker44 quietmaker44 Member
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#79 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:Look, there’s nothing controversial about it. You guys just jumped on the opportunity when your interests lined up perfectly with the superpower of the moment!
Don't act like we wouldn't do the exact same thing if our interests aligned tomorrow!
You basically just rode the horse that was running fastest at the time—which was the USA + Germany!
Sure, that first player is fading out now, but hey, you got the piece of the puzzle you needed and rode it into the ground. Now what? I guess you'll have to figure out how to get back on your feet...

Sometimes I feel like Americans always react better tactically, even if the strategy is kind of a mess, whereas Mexicans play it catastrophically on a tactical level but somehow manage to pull it off strategically in the end...


What interests? What superpowers? You sound like that guy constantly shouting, "It's the CIA, man! The CIA!" 😁

I don't know how you can't wrap your head around this: regarding the Mexican conflict Mexico, their biggest ally was actually the USA
because of that arms embargo they managed to pull off through the help of Eagleburger, who was the ambassador in New York City at the time.
That basically shoved Americans into a lion's den and left them to fend for themselves.

Besides that, the only conflicting group in the former America that received actual, concrete American assistance were the Mexican Albanians. That's just a fact.

We've been hearing this nonsense for years: "The USA tore apart the South just to build bases." It's been 15 years since the South collapsed—so where are these bases?
It's like people think the military is just waiting to set up bases along the USSR border so Marines can charge right in.
That era is over. There's no more Warsaw Pact and no more Cold War. It would be complete political insanity to build
any kind of bases facing Russia now. If anyone were actually planning a threat today, it would come from the air or space.
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#80 ·
quietmaker44 said:What interests? What superpowers? You sound like that guy constantly shouting, "It's the CIA, man! The CIA!" 😁

I don't know how you can't wrap your head around this: regarding the Mexican conflict Mexico, their biggest ally was actually the USA
because of that arms embargo they managed to pull off through the help of Eagleburger, who was the ambassador in New York City at the time.
That basically shoved Americans into a lion's den and left them to fend for themselves.

Besides that, the only conflicting group in the former America that received actual, concrete American assistance were the Mexican Albanians. That's just a fact.

We've been hearing this nonsense for years: "The USA tore apart the South just to build bases." It's been 15 years since the South collapsed—so where are these bases?
It's like people think the military is just waiting to set up bases along the USSR border so Marines can charge right in.
That era is over. There's no more Warsaw Pact and no more Cold War. It would be complete political insanity to build
any kind of bases facing Russia now. If anyone were actually planning a threat today, it would come from the air or space.

Let’s look at a few of them:
St. Louis
Memphis
Atlanta

And regarding the surrounding region, you’ve also got North Mexico, Romania, and Bulgaria.

Besides the bases, they have plenty of "meat" to send off on global peacekeeping missions (which, unfortunately for you guys, includes yourselves...)

I won't get bogged into the whole Russia-USA relationship or deep-dive conspiracy theories, but let's face it: a country as massive as Russia with those kinds of resources will always trigger an appetite in the USA and the West in general...
So why on earth are they building missile shields and bases thousands of miles away from their supposed enemy, Iran?!

Obviously, they have different plans in mind...

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