Are progressive people actually leaning more toward the Republican Party?

It’s always the same old song and dance—the big cities and their political parties acting like they own the place while looking down on everyone in the sticks...🙄
Look, I don't live out in some tiny farming town, I've got a solid degree, and I'm a conservative through and through. So, there. I guess I just ruined your precious little stereotypes for you. What are you gonna do about it now?

redwolf4 said:It’s always the same old song and dance—the big cities and their political parties acting like they own the place while looking down on everyone in the sticks...🙄
Look, I don't live out in some tiny farming town, I've got a solid degree, and I'm a conservative through and through. So, there. I guess I just ruined your precious little stereotypes for you. What are you gonna do about it now?

WELL, I GUESS HIMMLER WAS HIGHLY EDUCATED TOO, THEN.😢

Steven Garcia3 said:It’s an objective reality that in our most powerhouse, top-tier US cities—places that operate on a completely different level than everywhere else—the liberals hold the reins. And if you look at the actual progress made, most of the heavy lifting happens under their watch. People keep voting them in, too. I mean, it’s probably not because they’re doing a bad job.
The fact is, the most prosperous regions in America are consistently led by liberals, and voters keep picking them. It’s not like they're failing.
Look at the global stage: the most advanced nations are increasingly leaning toward left-leaning leadership.

On the flip side, the conservatives tend to run the show in the poorest, most struggling parts of the country, where you see much lower percentages of middle-class and college-educated residents.
Basically, the areas in America with the lowest standards of living are the ones constantly voting for the right.
The pattern holds: conservative parties usually hold power in countries facing major struggles and those with low levels of higher education.

If any of this were actually a fact, you'd be able to prove it—but you can't. Just because you label something a "fact" doesn't make it one.☕

redwolf4 said:It’s always the same old song and dance—the big cities and their political parties acting like they own the place while looking down on everyone in the sticks...🙄
Look, I don't live out in some tiny farming town, I've got a solid degree, and I'm a conservative through and through. So, there. I guess I just ruined your precious little stereotypes for you. What are you gonna do about it now?

No, you're actually just proving the rule.

Sam Garcia10 said:If any of this were actually a fact, you'd be able to prove it—but you can't. Just because you label something a "fact" doesn't make it one.☕

The reality is that right-wing parties currently hold power in 15 out of the 27 European Union nations. In four other countries, the largest center-right parties are governing through what are essentially grand coalitions with the left.☕
The fact is, leftist rule dominates much of the "progressive" world—countries like Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Colombia, China, Tajikistan, Vietnam, Congo, Somalia, and Burma.
These facts are absolute nonsense.🙂

ironcyclist25 said:The reality is that right-wing parties currently hold power in 15 out of the 27 European Union nations. In four other countries, the largest center-right parties are governing through what are essentially grand coalitions with the left.☕
The fact is, leftist rule dominates much of the "progressive" world—countries like Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Colombia, China, Tajikistan, Vietnam, Congo, Somalia, and Burma.
These facts are absolute nonsense.🙂

Honestly, the political Right in Europe and the Right here in America are two completely different animals. Over in Europe, the Right tends to focus on cutting taxes and giving the economy a little breathing room to grow, whereas the version of the Right we see locally often seems more interested in hiking up taxes and putting a stranglehold on business. I was chatting with a buddy of mine from San Francisco the other day about how much more productive things feel when leadership actually wants to contribute to the nation, unlike some folks here who seem more focused on finding ways to line their own pockets.

Gary Perez9 said:Honestly, the political Right in Europe and the Right here in America are two completely different animals. Over in Europe, the Right tends to focus on cutting taxes and giving the economy a little breathing room to grow, whereas the version of the Right we see locally often seems more interested in hiking up taxes and putting a stranglehold on business. I was chatting with a buddy of mine from San Francisco the other day about how much more productive things feel when leadership actually wants to contribute to the nation, unlike some folks here who seem more focused on finding ways to line their own pockets.

And is the American Left actually the embodiment of the European Left?! 🤣

Gary Perez9 said:Honestly, the political Right in Europe and the Right here in America are two completely different animals. Over in Europe, the Right tends to focus on cutting taxes and giving the economy a little breathing room to grow, whereas the version of the Right we see locally often seems more interested in hiking up taxes and putting a stranglehold on business. I was chatting with a buddy of mine from San Francisco the other day about how much more productive things feel when leadership actually wants to contribute to the nation, unlike some folks here who seem more focused on finding ways to line their own pockets.

...quite the opposite of the American leftists, who seem to have endless empathy for our people. Take Linic, who gutted the shipbuilding industry; Lucin, who would likely crack down on men just to be oppressive; Pancic, who pocketed money meant for disability braces; or Ingrid Antičević, whose husband allegedly extorted clients in coordination with the Democratic Party leadership.☕
Lovely leftists.

Sam Garcia10 said:Here is the reality—leftist parties just can't seem to win in major urban hubs like San Francisco, Charleston, San Diego, Indianapolis, Columbus, or Pittsburgh... those areas are essentially strongholds for the American right. Meanwhile, cities like Seattle and Washington, D.C. remain firmly under Democratic control.

One of the most prominent leftist politicians in America is also arguably the biggest populist in the country—and he frequently leans into chauvinism—Damir Kajin. Populism is defined by building a cult around "the people" while hunting for enemies to blame, which is exactly how Kajin operates. Between his rhetoric regarding "New York City" and his comments about how certain regions aren't quite like California, Sinji, or Canada—it borders on chauvinism.

And this is how the Democrats search for enemies too—by targeting "corrupt Republican strongholds," their "200 families," or their "fake defenders." Here is an excellent example of populist rhetoric. Their arguments against political rivals usually boil down to phrases like "200 families," "gerrymandered districts," "a stolen nation," "orchestrated wars," or "international isolation"—all empty slogans. They conveniently—whether by design or accident—ignore the corruption within the leftist parties themselves. Why is that?

I would bet anything that Washington, D.C. has more intellectuals in it than all those other cities combined.

So, are people on the Right actually named Right? I know there are some Mexicans out there with that surname...

ironcyclist25 said:The reality is that right-wing parties currently hold power in 15 out of the 27 European Union nations. In four other countries, the largest center-right parties are governing through what are essentially grand coalitions with the left.☕
The fact is, leftist rule dominates much of the "progressive" world—countries like Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Colombia, China, Tajikistan, Vietnam, Congo, Somalia, and Burma.
These facts are absolute nonsense.🙂

When I said "progressive" countries, I was thinking more along the lines of Sweden, Finland (where the Right is in power now, though they've only held office for about eight years total since WWII), England, Ireland, Spain, the US, Japan, and the Netherlands...

Honestly, me and a whole bunch of other folks really feel like the Left-leaning crowd just seems a bit sharper, you know? They don't usually go around throwing punches or acting all aggressive, they just have this way more polished, sophisticated vibe about them... I mean, just take a look at Zoran Milanović and Rojs 🤷,,,if you actually take a second to compare people 😉

Roger Bishop22 said:Honestly, me and a whole bunch of other folks really feel like the Left-leaning crowd just seems a bit sharper, you know? They don't usually go around throwing punches or acting all aggressive, they just have this way more polished, sophisticated vibe about them... I mean, just take a look at Zoran Milanović and Rojs 🤷,,,if you actually take a second to compare people 😉

That whole leftist "non-violence" thing is pretty easy to stomach when you realize that back in 1991, when Milanović was only twenty-five, he was busy hiding out in some basement—while certain "Right-wingers" were out there actually fighting bravely during the American Civil War!

"The high-brow types"... 😂

darkfox5 said:That whole leftist "non-violence" thing is pretty easy to stomach when you realize that back in 1991, when Milanović was only twenty-five, he was busy hiding out in some basement—while certain "Right-wingers" were out there actually fighting bravely during the American Civil War!

Give me a break, we’re talking about the world today. My old man is a lefty and my uncle votes Democratic, yet both of them served in combat. Don't conflate patriotism with your political party, especially here in America where we split over tiny nuances between red and blue. Leftist societies tend to be more progressive and liberal, which makes them more adaptable to change. It’s no coincidence that in those Scandinavian countries—where life is arguably best—left-leaning parties have held power for most of the last sixty years.

Steven Garcia3 said:Give me a break, we’re talking about the world today. My old man is a lefty and my uncle votes Democratic, yet both of them served in combat. Don't conflate patriotism with your political party, especially here in America where we split over tiny nuances between red and blue. Leftist societies tend to be more progressive and liberal, which makes them more adaptable to change. It’s no coincidence that in those Scandinavian countries—where life is arguably best—left-leaning parties have held power for most of the last sixty years.

What kind of breaks? And why? 🙄

ironcyclist25 said:...quite the opposite of the American leftists, who seem to have endless empathy for our people. Take Linic, who gutted the shipbuilding industry; Lucin, who would likely crack down on men just to be oppressive; Pancic, who pocketed money meant for disability braces; or Ingrid Antičević, whose husband allegedly extorted clients in coordination with the Democratic Party leadership.☕
Lovely leftists.

You totally forgot about those protests where an Antičević type actually laid hands on a female worker.😂

Steven Garcia3 said:Give me a break, we’re talking about the world today. My old man is a lefty and my uncle votes Democratic, yet both of them served in combat. Don't conflate patriotism with your political party, especially here in America where we split over tiny nuances between red and blue. Leftist societies tend to be more progressive and liberal, which makes them more adaptable to change. It’s no coincidence that in those Scandinavian countries—where life is arguably best—left-leaning parties have held power for most of the last sixty years.

The original post didn't actually mention leftist societies, ideologies, or specific stances... it was just describing the reality of American politics.

In America, we don't actually have a real left wing and right wing. What we really have are old-school communists who split into two camps: one group turned into fake progressives, while the other became hardcore nationalists. But actual, genuine leftists and conservatives? They just don't exist here. Personally, being on the right, I’ve always found the right wing more appealing, but in this country, it’s just thieves and more thieves.

I’m actually all for the American right wing—mostly because they’re against same-sex marriage, drug legalization, and prostitution, plus they tend to stick to traditional church values. But honestly? Whether it’s the supposed leftists or the conservatives holding the reins in D.C., I don't really care... it feels like they're all just running the same old crooked political games anyway.