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What's left of January 3rd?

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Participants Richard Wilson4blueseal41Matthew Harris2copperjackal15nimblewolf71Keith Rodriguez4Amanda Brooks7goldentrucker17Jacob Lewis5Ethan Parker47Carol Torres4Terry Hernandez11stormygull67Sean Fox7hollowlynx37Jeremy Wilson3coppertinker75Dana Reed4briskbison55Maria NewmanSam Garcia10
stormygull67 stormygull67 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#61 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:There was no war from 1996 to 1999. That’s actually when the factories started failing, journalists were being bugged, local election wins by the opposition were being overturned, and tycoons and thugs were running wild across America...

And what about the Midwest?
Those factories went under because of the aggression!
Half of those journalists should have been shut down entirely, rather than just being bugged!
And letting the opposition have a mayor in Washington, D.C. back then?
What's wrong with you? Besides, one of the constitutional powers at the time was confirming the mayor—and as we can see, it wasn't done without reason!
Which tycoons and thugs are we talking about? The ones the leftists pushed forward just to thin out your base...
stormygull67 stormygull67 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#62 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Wait, how exactly would that work?

It’s actually pretty simple—if we hadn't played into this whole traitorous, spineless, sycophant-style politics—which, by the way, combined with all of Mason's lies, just makes them look down on us while they do whatever they want—things might have been different... back when they didn't necessarily love us. Why would they even let us join if they could just screw us over whenever they felt like it? If we had actually stood our ground, they wouldn't have been able to keep us out of the European Union for long, either. Plus, certain intelligence agencies wouldn't have had nearly as much sway or influence over everything... and "Storm" wouldn't be under the jurisdiction of The Hague, nor would Gotovina have been prosecuted and handed over—meaning they couldn't use him as leverage or just blindly believe everything those Britons feed them...
Read what Stoltenberg said recently about how their goal was to preserve America at any cost, or check out Verheugen's comments about how America was unfairly bypassed because people chose to trust a certain secret service... and so on...
Then you get to the year 2000, and suddenly you have these lackeys who don't stand for anything—so naturally, they aren't going to stand up for anyone else, either. They certainly won't care about us, at least not while Mason is in power, and Sanders isn't far behind... not to mention Milanović and his cronies, whom I won't even get into.

That’s the short version of it, anyway... so now, just sit down, find some peace and quiet, and really use your head. Go talk to people who know more than you or I do, and just process all of this—maybe you'll eventually reach some conclusions of your own. Of course, it all comes down to personal experience and a good education!
Carol Torres4 Carol Torres4 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#63 ·
raido said:...it’s obvious, which is why this Republican Party woman on the conflict of interest commission is facing accusations now, but naturally, just like Nevenka T., Kutle, Rojs, and the rest, everything will be swept under the rug by the administration through legal loopholes, statutes of limitations, and sheer indifference...

To ensure we aren't just pointing fingers at the Republican Party, let's be fair and mention Štrok, the leader, and Čačić, who was rigging contracts for his own companies while serving as a minister, or Ferenčak, who snagged land in Washington, D.C. at bargain prices for an invalid care center only to flip it to a retail giant for seven times the price, and so on and so forth.
Well, a federal audit report came out yesterday making it crystal clear that anyone involved in politics is essentially a thief. Aside from one tiny regional party, none of them have clean books.
So, whether it's the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, the Liberal Party, the Regional Party, the Right-wing Party, the Labor Party, or the other Liberal Party—they are all corrupt organizations, and people like Banac, Letica, Tadić, and Jurica are all thieves, yet you seem fixated solely on the Republican Party.
If you think it's because they are uniquely corrupt, that doesn't hold water; the federal audit proves everyone is cutting corners, so that excuse is gone. That leaves only the real reason, which is the one thing people refuse to forgive Harmon and the Republican Party for, and that is this
Stop trying to sugarcoat it for us, you and everyone else like you. Just say it plainly: he destroyed America, and that's why I hate him, period.
And honestly, those people here who lean right are just spitting on the Phoenix!
I actually respect that Phoenix more than ten people like you combined.
At least the Phoenix speaks its mind clearly, loudly, and honestly; even though I don't agree with him on a single point, he doesn't dance around the truth—he just says it straight.
Sean Fox7 Sean Fox7 Newcomer
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#64 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Look, I don't owe you any explanations...

Why don't you just show me a single post where I'm actually sucking up to Mexicans?

And you can keep your Republican Party—they loved the poor so much they basically invented poverty just to stay in power...
Along with those 200 families, the war profiteers, the people who sold out El Paso and Posavina, and the ones who gutted American industry...
Good luck with that...

The folks from Posavina sold themselves out!
hollowlynx37 hollowlynx37 Newcomer
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#65 ·
There isn't a single decent politician left in this entire country, period.
There just isn't a political party in America worth a damn, end of story.
Selling out our nation like this is nothing short of high treason.
Both the EU and NATO are just one big scam.
So, seriously, just stop talking nonsense.
Jeremy Wilson3 Jeremy Wilson3 Member
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#66 ·
hollowlynx37 said:There isn't a single decent politician left in this entire country, period.
There just isn't a political party in America worth a damn, end of story.
Selling out our nation like this is nothing short of high treason.
Both the EU and NATO are just one big scam.
So, seriously, just stop talking nonsense.

So, what’s your big idea then? What are we supposed to do? ☕
hollowlynx37 hollowlynx37 Newcomer
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#67 ·
Once you finally wake up and realize that things just aren't right anymore, that's when you're actually going to recognize the Truth.
Jeremy Wilson3 Jeremy Wilson3 Member
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#68 ·
hollowlynx37 said:Once you finally wake up and realize that things just aren't right anymore, that's when you're actually going to recognize the Truth.

Well damn, now I'm actually curious. What truth are we talking about? 🍿
hollowlynx37 hollowlynx37 Newcomer
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#69 ·
You can only find the truth for yourself, because everything is laid out before you and you have the freedom to choose what’s right. It’s hard to get anywhere if you just sit there watching everyone else's movies. You have to be *in* the movie to actually feel the plot moving. It’s kind of like being a tourist in some exotic country—you stay in a resort, follow a tour guide around who shows you the sights, and you watch those people and think they look pathetic, or you pity them, or you just don't care. But then you come back a second time, rent a room from a local, and actually live with them. You do life alongside them. Only then do you start to understand what's really going on there—though even then, maybe not fully, because you’re still carrying around dollars you earned somewhere else. Look, go find your own truth; there is so much out there to explore, from Sumerian vessels and Satanism to Buddhism, Hinduism, atheism, Darwinism, Judaism, Islam, Santeria, Voodoo, Palo, Aboriginal traditions, Native American spirituality, Christianity, and so on... somewhere in all that, the way things should be done is written down.
It’s a struggle if you blindly believe in democracy and money; if that's you, then just stay home, sit at your computer, play games on forums, and argue for this or that useless political party.
I honestly couldn't care less about the "lesser of two evils." I'm looking for the *right* option, and I'm not going to waste my damn time going to the polls just to vote for one group of Masons or another. At their core, they are all pulling for the same thing, aside from some trivial left-vs-right differences that they have to maintain just to satisfy the whole definition of being politically polarized.
If you take a closer look, both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are totally on board with the EU and NATO, pro-choice, pro-LGBTQ+ rights, selling off American assets to foreigners, and privatizing the most profitable state-owned companies.
Those are just a few examples of where they actually overlap.
It's just like how McCain and Obama might bicker over insignificant details—even though they're essentially coming from the same camp, and only a naive person would think they are true rivals—they both agree on the single most important issue right now: the possibility of war in Iran and Afghanistan.
I honestly wonder why so many people on this forum can't wrap their heads around such obvious realities. I see that the media "mind programming" is working, but I also believe it can be beaten. Imagine if nobody showed up to vote? Imagine if every American pulled all their cash out of the banks in a matter of days? That would actually change something, but you need a massive movement for that to happen.
Americans need to realize that this isn't the right path. We're busy copying the American and European legal and economic systems just so it's easier for them to subjugate us (smaller, cheaper bureaucracy, their lawyers facing ours under their own rules). Who does that actually benefit—us, or them? Rothschild crashed the stock market in the US again, and the government used its "injection" to simply seize everything from those who went under during the collapse. Does anyone seriously think a market crash is ever an accident? What happens here when the bubble bursts, especially since everyone is buried in predatory loans and tied up in mortgages? The banks will swoop in and take possession of all the property, and we have to ask ourselves: whose banks are these in America anyway?
Cynicism won't save you; I know, because I've been there.
God bless you.
coppertinker75 coppertinker75 Newcomer
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#70 ·
Richard Wilson4 and Matthew Harris2, honestly, I don't think even you guys believe the stuff you're spewing. You really ought to take a second and look at these old talking points you keep dragging up. Do you actually believe them, or did you just pick them up somewhere and stick to them because you've been programmed to think that way? It seems to me it's just easier to spit on the Republican Party and Harmon and recycle those old communist slogans that even a child wouldn't buy today.

Now, someone here mentioned that in a functional country, these journalists wouldn't just be spying—they’d be behind bars. And frankly, all this talk about "media freedom" and similar nonsense? You might as well hang it on a cat's tail. What kind of free media or journalists are we even talking about? Where does that actually exist? Even the people covering fashion aren't truly free, let alone the political reporters. Politicians and journalists... they're essentially one and the same, if you think about it. Only fools fail to see that. These phrases are just recycled by Americans and their little proxies, those various NGOs. You have to ask yourself: is it even possible to have these so-called non-governmental organizations in the US like we have here, or like most of Europe, or like what Putin purged from Russia? You won't find foreign NGOs popping up constantly in the American media cycle pushing certain agendas, because it's prohibited there. They're the ones who get to run those organizations in all sorts of different countries.
Matthew Harris2 Matthew Harris2 Member
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#71 ·
January 3rd is going to happen all over again, only this time we'll win by a landslide. When it finally goes down—and I don't think we'll be waiting much longer—we need to stop playing nice. For the sake of our future, we have to go after the mafia hiding inside the Republican Party, from the local level all the way up to the cabinet.

That’s the only way the US actually stands a chance at a bright future.
Dana Reed4 Dana Reed4 Newcomer
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#72 ·
Matthew Harris2 said:January 3rd is going to happen all over again, only this time we'll win by a landslide. When it finally goes down—and I don't think we'll be waiting much longer—we need to stop playing nice. For the sake of our future, we have to go after the mafia hiding inside the Republican Party, from the local level all the way up to the cabinet.

That’s the only way the US actually stands a chance at a bright future.

Where on earth have you been living? You're saying America only has a chance at a happy past once they win.
I mean, we can't exactly just walk away from the mess they dragged us into in less than four years of being in power, yet you seem to want to go through the exact same cycle again.
That party of bold frauds probably should have been banned from political activity ages ago, and maybe activists should be shut down, much like how their predecessors (those folks back before 1990) used to teach us.
Now, I wouldn't say the current group is perfect by any means, but they are, I think, a hundred times better for America than all that leftist, anti-American trash.
Jeremy Wilson3 Jeremy Wilson3 Member
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#73 ·
hollowlynx37 said:You can only find the truth for yourself, because everything is laid out before you and you have the freedom to choose what’s right. It’s hard to get anywhere if you just sit there watching everyone else's movies. You have to be *in* the movie to actually feel the plot moving. It’s kind of like being a tourist in some exotic country—you stay in a resort, follow a tour guide around who shows you the sights, and you watch those people and think they look pathetic, or you pity them, or you just don't care. But then you come back a second time, rent a room from a local, and actually live with them. You do life alongside them. Only then do you start to understand what's really going on there—though even then, maybe not fully, because you’re still carrying around dollars you earned somewhere else. Look, go find your own truth; there is so much out there to explore, from Sumerian vessels and Satanism to Buddhism, Hinduism, atheism, Darwinism, Judaism, Islam, Santeria, Voodoo, Palo, Aboriginal traditions, Native American spirituality, Christianity, and so on... somewhere in all that, the way things should be done is written down.
It’s a struggle if you blindly believe in democracy and money; if that's you, then just stay home, sit at your computer, play games on forums, and argue for this or that useless political party.
I honestly couldn't care less about the "lesser of two evils." I'm looking for the *right* option, and I'm not going to waste my damn time going to the polls just to vote for one group of Masons or another. At their core, they are all pulling for the same thing, aside from some trivial left-vs-right differences that they have to maintain just to satisfy the whole definition of being politically polarized.
If you take a closer look, both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are totally on board with the EU and NATO, pro-choice, pro-LGBTQ+ rights, selling off American assets to foreigners, and privatizing the most profitable state-owned companies.
Those are just a few examples of where they actually overlap.
It's just like how McCain and Obama might bicker over insignificant details—even though they're essentially coming from the same camp, and only a naive person would think they are true rivals—they both agree on the single most important issue right now: the possibility of war in Iran and Afghanistan.
I honestly wonder why so many people on this forum can't wrap their heads around such obvious realities. I see that the media "mind programming" is working, but I also believe it can be beaten. Imagine if nobody showed up to vote? Imagine if every American pulled all their cash out of the banks in a matter of days? That would actually change something, but you need a massive movement for that to happen.
Americans need to realize that this isn't the right path. We're busy copying the American and European legal and economic systems just so it's easier for them to subjugate us (smaller, cheaper bureaucracy, their lawyers facing ours under their own rules). Who does that actually benefit—us, or them? Rothschild crashed the stock market in the US again, and the government used its "injection" to simply seize everything from those who went under during the collapse. Does anyone seriously think a market crash is ever an accident? What happens here when the bubble bursts, especially since everyone is buried in predatory loans and tied up in mortgages? The banks will swoop in and take possession of all the property, and we have to ask ourselves: whose banks are these in America anyway?
Cynicism won't save you; I know, because I've been there.
God bless you.

Looks like you recently watched Zeitgeist. Sending you a little love, buddy. It's interesting stuff, but don't get too carried away by those fantasy-conspiracy films—they'll scramble your brain before you know it.
briskbison55 briskbison55 Active Member
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#74 ·
Just my opening thought here, but that ridiculous little coalition of six was nothing more than a pathetic attempt to convince everyone—both here at home and abroad—that the Republican Party lost the election. I mean, they really thought having six different parties running together would somehow beat just one single party? :-) Honestly, though, maybe losing that battle was actually a blessing in disguise for the Republicans. It worked out for them in so many ways. It basically let them shake off the extremists while simultaneously showing the public exactly what the Democratic Party and their allies are all about. They essentially handed them a free pass to go ahead and act without any interference. So, what did that group of six actually achieve, and what’s left of it now? It’s honestly a joke. Even now, it’s still laughable, even if they weren't actually trying to be funny.
hollowlynx37 hollowlynx37 Newcomer
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#75 ·
Jeremy Wilson3 said:Looks like you recently watched Zeitgeist. Sending you a little love, buddy. It's interesting stuff, but don't get too carried away by those fantasy-conspiracy films—they'll scramble your brain before you know it.

It looks like Zeitgeist is basically the only thing you've ever heard regarding conspiracies. To me, that movie feels like it was specifically designed to stir up even more confusion within the whole "conspiracy theory" scene. Look, my dear Jeremy Wilson3, the reality of the situation is way broader and more complicated than anything shown in Zeitgeist. That film was primarily aimed at taking shots at the Catholic Church, which I don't think you quite grasped, but there are plenty of actual truths buried in there that you’d recognize if you were actually looking for the truth. Instead, you seem to be one of those people who just swallow everything from official reports, Reuters, and all that mainstream media propaganda.
It’s kind of like how it was once "common knowledge" that frying in olive oil was super carcinogenic, but now, coming from those exact same sources, they're telling us olive oil is actually the best thing for you.
That's all I'm saying, love ya!
stormygull67 stormygull67 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#76 ·
raido said:....it's pretty obvious—they've dumped us into a massive pile of nonsense. We're talking everything from shady, crooked privatizations and selling off state-owned companies to a huge number of fraudulent disability claims, total chaos and corruption in healthcare, stripping away what little worker protections we had left, the complete politicization of the courts, a mountain of fake degrees, procurement fraud, and rigged construction bids... honestly, where does it even end?

..and they managed to pull all of this off in just four years—whereas the Republican Party back in the 90s and even now represents a perfectly healthy, functional political establishment that we clearly deserved to get. And hey, look at us now, living in this wonderful, God-given prosperity! It's such a socially balanced nation where anyone wanting a loaf of bread can easily find a job—and if they don't, they have plenty of social support. Retirees certainly aren't digging through trash cans to survive, and the birth rate is climbing because everyone is just so full of optimism and faith in a better tomorrow...
students and high schoolers are absolutely thrilled with the education system, healthcare services are flawless, corruption obviously doesn't exist, and the courts are the very definition of justice. Plus, we're incredibly tolerant toward national and sexual minorities, and don't even get me started on how safe our streets and roads are....

....sorry, but which country are you actually living in?🤷


Unlike you in America! And unlike you, I don't fall for that transparent, pathetic, and cheap Democratic demagoguery! And unlike you, I can actually use my head to recognize all the mess they've made in such a short time since taking power on January 3rd, 2000!

It's a good thing we didn't have them anywhere near the government during the war, so we were able to liberate and secure the country despite them. That alone is more than enough reason why they shouldn't exist or be allowed near power—at least not here in America!

BTW: honestly, looking at what you listed under interests in your profile, it doesn't even make you a serious conversationalist—it just confirms my suspicion that you struggle to grasp much of anything! For you, being a Democrat is probably just "in" and "cool," even though you don't really understand what either of those things actually means...
Ethan Parker47 Ethan Parker47 Newcomer
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#77 ·
raido said:...

Man, if I had your brain, I’d finally get some rest.

I’m not trying to be insulting—really—but when someone hits 35 and their long-term memory is this shot, it becomes way too easy to blame everything on whoever happens to be in power right now.

Look, don't get me wrong—I'm not out here defending them—but if you view everything in such black and white (the Republican Party vs. whatever party you prefer), then you're clearly missing a few key details from those heavy drugs you've been taking.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 VeteranOP
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#78 ·
stormygull67 said:Unlike you in America! And unlike you, I don't fall for that transparent, pathetic, and cheap Democratic demagoguery! And unlike you, I can actually use my head to recognize all the mess they've made in such a short time since taking power on January 3rd, 2000!

It's a good thing we didn't have them anywhere near the government during the war, so we were able to liberate and secure the country despite them. That alone is more than enough reason why they shouldn't exist or be allowed near power—at least not here in America!

BTW: honestly, looking at what you listed under interests in your profile, it doesn't even make you a serious conversationalist—it just confirms my suspicion that you struggle to grasp much of anything! For you, being a Democrat is probably just "in" and "cool," even though you don't really understand what either of those things actually means...

Why do you think the Republican Party got less than a third of the seats on January 3rd, even with the support of Herzegovinian voters and those custom-tailored units?
Jacob Lewis5 Jacob Lewis5 Active Member
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#79 ·
Look, let's just call a spade a spade. Stop talking in riddles.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 VeteranOP
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#80 ·
Jacob Lewis5 said:Look, let's just call a spade a spade. Stop talking in riddles.

Alright...

What kind of district is it, stretching from rural Alabama all the way up to the Midwest?

The areas around Memphis and St. Louis aren't just one big block; they're linked through the plains and the river valleys where the Republican Party is strongest (and yeah, even in Memphis, they're huge)...

New York City is split into four different districts...

And so on...

Anything else you need to know?

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