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brightridge59 brightridge59 Active Member
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#21 ·
Jeffrey Stewart4 said:That’s exactly what keeps me up at night—the fear that he'll relapse. But honestly, what am I supposed to do? I feel like I'm completely paralyzed by everything happening right now😢. I'm 28 years old—and look, I'm not some naive kid; I have a college degree and a career behind me.
It’s heartbreaking because I see this reality all too often at my job; I've seen plenty of users, and I even saw one colleague pass away, which was just devastating... And now, here I am, having fallen for someone just like them. It’s a heavy situation, and I think I might care a little too much.

Age has absolutely nothing to do with how smart someone is, and having a degree doesn't automatically mean you're wise when it comes to life😁. 😉

I’m definitely not calling you stupid, but you might end up feeling that way if you dive headfirst into a relationship with him. If you truly believe you can handle the chaos... well, go ahead. But honestly, very few people actually can. I know I couldn't. 🤷

Quincy:
It’s honestly heartbreaking to see so many addicts at my job; I even saw one pass away recently, which was just devastating... and then, of course, here I am, having gotten myself tangled up with someone just like that. And the worst part is, I care—maybe even more than I should.
You haven't gotten "tangled up" yet, but you're close. 😉
You need to stop caring. Like, right now.
Jeffrey Stewart4 Jeffrey Stewart4 MemberOP
13 messages
joined Oct 2007
#22 ·
Samuel Davis16 said:My husband’s best friend is an addict.
They grew up together, so they're still inseparable.
He’s been with his girlfriend for three years now.
She knew he was shooting up for years, but she wouldn't be with him if he hadn't stopped—or at least, that's her excuse.🙄
She knows exactly what someone on a bender looks like (and he is—sometimes it's just pills, sometimes it's coke, but lately, it's all IV), yet she chooses to look the other way.
They make it work. But only because she’s so high herself that it’s honestly unbelievable.
(He isn't your typical street junkie who steals from people; he doesn't have the legal baggage he used to.)
What I can't wrap my head around is this: how one addict can't give a normal woman everything she needs, and how a normal woman can endure it even when she knows.
Even while she's high.
Look, if you could actually provide everything—emotionally speaking—maybe he wouldn't be using. She'd see that instantly, no matter how blind she might be.☕
It would be great if that were the case, but nobody can guarantee he won't slide right back into the pills.
Anyone using is a hard-core hedonist. They love the high too much to stay clean.
They are rare—I mean reaaaaally rare—people who get clean. Even when they manage to detox physically, they never truly get clean mentally.
Anyway, hope that gives you something to think about.

I honestly believe that even those who successfully get clean still have drugs constantly playing on their minds. My partner and I are always out and about, just taking things slow... I asked him earlier if he felt ready to go outside, and he told me he wasn't quite ready yet (when I pressed him on what he meant, he said he wasn't ready for "the environment")... I don't even know, I'm just completely overwhelmed right now.
But seriously, what kind of "environment" is he talking about?? wtf??
He used to be heavily into coke, and people told me that users often have tiny pupils. So now I find myself constantly observing him, but his pupils seem to fluctuate between being tiny or huge.😕
I went to the CVS today and bought a test kit, thinking maybe I could ask him to take it. Is that being rude or intrusive? Honestly, I feel like it’s the only way I’ll ever find any peace of mind.
It’s hard to believe I'm sharing my life with complete strangers while I can't even open up to my best friend... But talking here feels a little easier.
James Allen6 James Allen6 Active Member
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joined Apr 2007
#23 ·
I suppose you could just let him take the test.
He is aware of his past mistakes, so I imagine he would want to prove he has changed.
However, looking at the big picture, you cannot be monitoring his every move indefinitely.

Regarding your question about why he feels unready for the environment—perhaps you should just ask him directly?!!
I once had a boyfriend where we lacked total transparency. It felt like there was always something left unsaid between us (and it seems you might be experiencing something similar), which creates an unhealthy dynamic. In my case, things eventually just fell apart.

Please take care of yourself.
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#24 ·
Look, I personally know someone who stayed by a drug dealer's side right until their final breath, and honestly, they’ve probably kicked the bucket by now anyway. Why bother throwing stones at people for their choices when there's always some moralist lurking in every corner of society ready to judge? ☕
brightridge59 brightridge59 Active Member
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#25 ·
Jeffrey Stewart4 said:I honestly believe that even those who successfully get clean still have drugs constantly playing on their minds. My partner and I are always out and about, just taking things slow... I asked him earlier if he felt ready to go outside, and he told me he wasn't quite ready yet (when I pressed him on what he meant, he said he wasn't ready for "the environment")... I don't even know, I'm just completely overwhelmed right now.
But seriously, what kind of "environment" is he talking about?? wtf??
He used to be heavily into coke, and people told me that users often have tiny pupils. So now I find myself constantly observing him, but his pupils seem to fluctuate between being tiny or huge.😕
I went to the CVS today and bought a test kit, thinking maybe I could ask him to take it. Is that being rude or intrusive? Honestly, I feel like it’s the only way I’ll ever find any peace of mind.
It’s hard to believe I'm sharing my life with complete strangers while I can't even open up to my best friend... But talking here feels a little easier.

He just isn't quite ready to jump back into the mix because he’s become so completely disconnected from everyone around him.
That’s precisely why I believe we should prioritize the local community and our surrounding neighborhood.

He pulled the lever, and honestly, people started telling me that their pupils looked incredibly small. It got me thinking, so now I find myself constantly researching the whole thing, but from what I can see, his pupils are either tiny or absolutely massive.😕

It’s a bit of a pattern I’ve noticed; when they're using heroin, it tends to be more about those smaller, subtle doses, whereas things really escalate and become much more intense during the withdrawal phases.
If they’re absolutely tiny—I mean, looking like little specks even when you're standing in total darkness—then there isn't even a question about it; he definitely went ahead and took them.

I picked up a test at the local CVS today, and I actually had this sudden, fleeting thought about handing it over to her just to let her run the diagnostic herself. I found myself wondering for a moment—would that come across as rude or perhaps a bit patronizing? Part of me feels like it might be the only way to truly put her mind at ease, as seeing the results firsthand might be the only thing that could really settle her nerves.
It feels a bit surreal, doesn't it? I honestly can't believe I’m sharing the intimate details of my life with complete strangers on the internet, especially when I find myself unable to open up to my absolute best friend about these things. Ali, there is just something about this space that makes it feel easier to let it all out.

I don't think it’s rude at all; honestly, you have every right to ask. If he turns you down, then it’s a pretty clear sign that he's trying to hide something.

Take a moment to really sit with that thought and ask yourself: is this truly the kind of life you want to lead—one defined by constant doubt and a lingering sense of fear? 😢
Samuel Davis16 Samuel Davis16 Member
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#26 ·
brightridge59 said:He just isn't quite ready to jump back into the mix because he’s become so completely disconnected from everyone around him.
That’s precisely why I believe we should prioritize the local community and our surrounding neighborhood.

He pulled the lever, and honestly, people started telling me that their pupils looked incredibly small. It got me thinking, so now I find myself constantly researching the whole thing, but from what I can see, his pupils are either tiny or absolutely massive.😕

It’s a bit of a pattern I’ve noticed; when they're using heroin, it tends to be more about those smaller, subtle doses, whereas things really escalate and become much more intense during the withdrawal phases.
If they’re absolutely tiny—I mean, looking like little specks even when you're standing in total darkness—then there isn't even a question about it; he definitely went ahead and took them.

I picked up a test at the local CVS today, and I actually had this sudden, fleeting thought about handing it over to her just to let her run the diagnostic herself. I found myself wondering for a moment—would that come across as rude or perhaps a bit patronizing? Part of me feels like it might be the only way to truly put her mind at ease, as seeing the results firsthand might be the only thing that could really settle her nerves.
It feels a bit surreal, doesn't it? I honestly can't believe I’m sharing the intimate details of my life with complete strangers on the internet, especially when I find myself unable to open up to my absolute best friend about these things. Ali, there is just something about this space that makes it feel easier to let it all out.

I don't think it’s rude at all; honestly, you have every right to ask. If he turns you down, then it’s a pretty clear sign that he's trying to hide something.

Take a moment to really sit with that thought and ask yourself: is this truly the kind of life you want to lead—one defined by constant doubt and a lingering sense of fear? 😢

Yeah, honestly, that last part is what matters most.
George Chavez8 George Chavez8 Member
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joined Aug 2008
#27 ·
riječkaleptirica;15619347 said: (I’m not some idiot, I actually have a college degree).

🙄

Just because you finished school doesn't mean you're a genius in every other aspect of life...

People who have gone through a divorce usually only have one God, and honestly, your whole vibe is like a cliché from a bad Hollywood movie—you know, the kind where everyone tells you to stay away, but your "heart" just won't listen...

Man, I would feel absolutely pathetic if I had to ask a girl to take a test for me, or even if I had to spend a single second thinking about it. I wouldn't even let myself get in that position. And my "heart"? No way. I’d never let myself fall for a woman I couldn't trust completely. All this talk about following your "heart" is just stuff people tell themselves when they're looking for cheap thrills—at least, that's how it looks to me.

Good luck with that.🙂
Dennis Doyle3 Dennis Doyle3 Active Member
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joined Aug 2008
#28 ·
George Chavez8 said:

Must be nice being able to choose who you fall for... or in your case, just choosing who you "fall" for.☕
George Chavez8 George Chavez8 Member
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#29 ·
Dennis Doyle3 said:

Must be nice being able to choose who you fall for... or in your case, just choosing who you "fall" for.☕
Must be nice being able to choose who you fall for... or in your case, just choosing who you "fall" for.☕
You totally "get" me. ☕
Dennis Doyle3 Dennis Doyle3 Active Member
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joined Aug 2008
#30 ·
George Chavez8 said:Must be nice being able to choose who you fall for... or in your case, just choosing who you "fall" for.☕

You totally "get" me. ☕
It was a struggle, honestly, but I somehow managed to "get" you☕
Samuel Davis16 Samuel Davis16 Member
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joined Jan 2009
#31 ·
It blows my mind how people act like you get a choice in who you fall for.
If we actually had a say, half these debates wouldn't even exist.

I’d love to say I hadn't fallen for the person I did, but here we are.

That’s why they call love blind. You don't see the addict, the gambler, or the jerk... you just don't see any of it.

That’s the whole point. ;-)
amberbadger8 amberbadger8 Member
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#32 ·
Samuel Davis16 said:It blows my mind how people act like you get a choice in who you fall for.
If we actually had a say, half these debates wouldn't even exist.

I’d love to say I hadn't fallen for the person I did, but here we are.

That’s why they call love blind. You don't see the addict, the gambler, or the jerk... you just don't see any of it.

That’s the whole point. ;-)

It comes down to emotion versus reason—that delicate balance, that harmony, or lack thereof. It’s the fundamental question that permeates every relationship, every action, every single moment of our existence. In love, this duality faces its ultimate test. If logic fails to keep pace with those massive waves of feeling, the relationship becomes irrational, even destructive. The goal is to fuse the two together as much as possible. Honestly? I know it's hard. But you have to try.
Amanda Stewart7 Amanda Stewart7 Active Member
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#33 ·
Jeffrey Stewart4 said:That’s exactly what keeps me up at night—the fear that he'll relapse. But honestly, what am I supposed to do? I feel like I'm completely paralyzed by everything happening right now😢. I'm 28 years old—and look, I'm not some naive kid; I have a college degree and a career behind me.
It’s heartbreaking because I see this reality all too often at my job; I've seen plenty of users, and I even saw one colleague pass away, which was just devastating... And now, here I am, having fallen for someone just like them. It’s a heavy situation, and I think I might care a little too much.

Yeah, I know people who are six feet under right now.
No amount of love in this world was ever enough to make them put down the needle and spoon.
ButterflyGirl12, you really don't realize the mess you're stepping into.
Do you honestly think your willpower is strong enough to handle this?
brightridge59 brightridge59 Active Member
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#34 ·
Samuel Davis16 said:It blows my mind how people act like you get a choice in who you fall for.
If we actually had a say, half these debates wouldn't even exist.

I’d love to say I hadn't fallen for the person I did, but here we are.

That’s why they call love blind. You don't see the addict, the gambler, or the jerk... you just don't see any of it.

That’s the whole point. ;-)

While you certainly can't pick who captures your heart, you absolutely have the agency to decide who you'll stay in a relationship with.

That's why they say love is blind. You don't see the addict, you don't see the gambler, you don't see the abuser... you just don't see any of it.

And that's really the crux of the matter, isn't it? ;-)

In my view, that isn't true love; it’s more like being infatuated or simply blinded by emotion. You see everything clearly enough, but you choose to look the other way. By the time real love sets in, it's often far too late to fix the damage. 🤷

Just to be clear, I'm not talking about someone casually wondering if they should date a certain person as a joke.
I'm talking about someone facing an incredibly heavy burden, and she is making the conscious decision to take that weight onto her own shoulders.
Andrew Ramos10 Andrew Ramos10 Active Member
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#35 ·
She’s just a kid doing her own thing... you gotta learn from your mistakes eventually...
Besides... I really believe he'll be there to lend a hand if they hit a snag 👍
Ronald Rogers27 Ronald Rogers27 Active Member
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joined Mar 2008
#36 ·
brightridge59 said:He just isn't quite ready to jump back into the mix because he’s become so completely disconnected from everyone around him.
That’s precisely why I believe we should prioritize the local community and our surrounding neighborhood.

He pulled the lever, and honestly, people started telling me that their pupils looked incredibly small. It got me thinking, so now I find myself constantly researching the whole thing, but from what I can see, his pupils are either tiny or absolutely massive.😕

It’s a bit of a pattern I’ve noticed; when they're using heroin, it tends to be more about those smaller, subtle doses, whereas things really escalate and become much more intense during the withdrawal phases.
If they’re absolutely tiny—I mean, looking like little specks even when you're standing in total darkness—then there isn't even a question about it; he definitely went ahead and took them.

I picked up a test at the local CVS today, and I actually had this sudden, fleeting thought about handing it over to her just to let her run the diagnostic herself. I found myself wondering for a moment—would that come across as rude or perhaps a bit patronizing? Part of me feels like it might be the only way to truly put her mind at ease, as seeing the results firsthand might be the only thing that could really settle her nerves.
It feels a bit surreal, doesn't it? I honestly can't believe I’m sharing the intimate details of my life with complete strangers on the internet, especially when I find myself unable to open up to my absolute best friend about these things. Ali, there is just something about this space that makes it feel easier to let it all out.

I don't think it’s rude at all; honestly, you have every right to ask. If he turns you down, then it’s a pretty clear sign that he's trying to hide something.

Take a moment to really sit with that thought and ask yourself: is this truly the kind of life you want to lead—one defined by constant doubt and a lingering sense of fear? 😢

I don't get why anyone would give advice like that. Any real relationship relies on two fundamental pillars: trust and respect. If your guy tells you straight up that he DOESN'T do drugs—that he's been clean for three years now—then you either believe him or you don't.

To be honest, if I were in his shoes and my partner made a relationship conditional on me taking a drug test, I'd just take the test. No big deal. And once that negative result comes back, I’d just look her in the eye and say, "Happy now?" Then I'd get up, turn around, and walk away without saying another word... 👍

My last relationship was actually pretty similar; it was a real litmus test. I found myself in a massive hole, and she pulled away because she didn't want to help me out financially. I never even asked her for money, but what really killed me was that she gave me ZERO emotional support. It caught me totally off guard...

I clawed my way out of that mess all by myself, without any support at all. But as far as I'm concerned, that girl is dead to me. She abandoned me emotionally right when I needed it most! 👎
_______

If he's lying to you (and using drugs), it'll come out fast enough. Time always tells. Once it does, you'll know what to do. You'll decide whether to fight for him or move on. 🤷

But if you start doubting him when he's probably innocent instead of giving him your full support, you're basically just building walls that will kill the relationship anyway! 😲

Ronald Rogers27
brightridge59 brightridge59 Active Member
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#37 ·
Look, Ronald Rogers27... you’re talking about two completely different things here.

If some woman posted online saying she was thinking about walking out onto a busy interstate to see if a car would hit her just to test her luck, what on earth would you say to her?
Would you tell her to go ahead and take the risk because "well, maybe it won't happen"? 😕

You're stuck in the realm of theory, but I’m speaking from actual life experience. When you're dealing with addicts, there is simply no such thing as trust—not even when people claim they've "rehabilitated."

Addiction is a chronic, recurring illness, not some temporary phase or a run of bad luck. There is no reliable future to be built with them.
That’s exactly why I offer this kind of advice and hold this perspective.
Christian Sanchez4 Christian Sanchez4 Active Member
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joined Jan 2007
#38 ·
brightridge59 said:Look, Ronald Rogers27... you’re talking about two completely different things here.

If some woman posted online saying she was thinking about walking out onto a busy interstate to see if a car would hit her just to test her luck, what on earth would you say to her?
Would you tell her to go ahead and take the risk because "well, maybe it won't happen"? 😕

You're stuck in the realm of theory, but I’m speaking from actual life experience. When you're dealing with addicts, there is simply no such thing as trust—not even when people claim they've "rehabilitated."

Addiction is a chronic, recurring illness, not some temporary phase or a run of bad luck. There is no reliable future to be built with them.
That’s exactly why I offer this kind of advice and hold this perspective.

Oh, come off it, what's wrong with me? 😬 🤣

I just couldn't help myself 😳🤣 though you know I usually agree with you😉 😁
silentpilot6 silentpilot6 Regular
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joined Sep 2004
#39 ·
Andrew Ramos10 said:I mean, honestly... everything stays perfectly fine until you start obsessing over every little detail
It’ll be much easier to pull him away from all that nonsense if you just relax...


Sure, sure... it's "well documented" 🙄 how many addicts were actually saved from that nightmare by their partners. 👎

Just let him go... you don't need someone like that in your life.
Jonathan Morales2 Jonathan Morales2 Newcomer
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#40 ·
William Nelson7 said:If you truly love him, you’ll stick by his side through thick and thin. Just make sure you don't let yourself fall into drug use. If you see that he’s actually doing it, you have to walk away from him. If he loves you, he’ll stop.

Look, you can't just "un-addict" someone from drugs; it doesn't work like that. And he isn't going to stop just because he's in love; he's going to stop when he actually fixes whatever's broken in his head.

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