Sarkozy: The new breed of criminal?

The recent barrage of incredibly aggressive, dangerous rhetoric coming from Nicolas Sarkozy regarding Iran, the destabilization of the Arab world, and this whole "improving relations with the USA" thing... it all points directly back to what I’ve been shouting about for years: absolutely nothing in Europe has changed since the 19th century. Look, that whole "social welfare state" vibe in Western Europe between 1945 and 1990? It was nothing more than a Potemkin village. Just a colorful, flashy facade designed to hide the undeniable truth: that Western Europe and the USA are the most criminal products of a criminal civilization. That bright, loud, "socially conscious" Potemkin village was just there to trick the simple-minded—to maintain this illusion of superiority for the masses, making the Western system look better than those "communist countries" over in Eastern Europe. But here’s the kicker—the price for maintaining that Potemkin village was paid elsewhere. It was paid in Africa, the Middle East, Central and South Asia, and especially South America. It’s the exact same pattern we saw with Israel. Back then, when these powers were colonizing African Americans, Asians, or South Americans, they were at least smart enough to be quiet about it. Now? They’re getting sloppy.

For forty-five years straight, people in the West have been living in constant fear of some big, scary "communist threat." It’s wild. Meanwhile, while everyone was busy panicking about the red menace, the West was out there picking fights and waging like, what, three or four hundred wars outside its own borders? And all those "dangerous communists" they were so terrified of? There was just one. One single entity. Seriously, it’s a miracle we survived. Pure magic, really.

Back in the 90s, once the whole "threat of communism" thing evaporated, something else shifted too. It wasn't just that people stopped buying into the lies of capitalism—it was that suddenly, there was no longer any excuse for a social safety net. It was treated like this massive, bloated leech overnight. Suddenly, everything changed. The welfare state was rebranded as "too expensive," a "haven for lazy people," or just plain "broken." But here’s the kicker—the part that really gets me fired up. At that exact same time, military spending across the US and the European Union was being slashed because, hey, we didn't "need" it anymore, right? So I have to ask: none of those geniuses who spent years screaming about how the social safety net was breaking the bank could ever explain why it *wasn't* too expensive back when military budgets were through the roof? Make it make sense!

It was honestly just a matter of time. You cut social safety nets, hollow out the middle class, and trigger this massive, brutal wealth gap—kind of like how things spiraled in the UK back during the Thatcher era—and you’re basically rolling out the red carpet for fascists and Nazis. It’s inevitable. Once you have that kind of social stratification, they come crawling out with that whole predictable playbook: racism, total cultural intolerance, mass deportations, pure hatred, and that aggressive, suffocating nationalism. It’s all right there in the manual.

So, what are we actually left with today? I mean, seriously, once you realize the social safety net has basically been gutted and the whole idea of a welfare state is practically dead, what’s even the point? Everything feels so hollow now.

So, you’ve got ultra-nationalists running the show in Poland right now—total clerical-fascist types, honestly. They aren't any better than Józef Piłsudski back in his day. It’s the same old tired routine: to distract everyone from the fact that their domestic policy is a total train wreck and their promises of some social utopia were nothing but lies, they just scream at the top of their lungs about the "communist threat." They go on and on about needing to purge communists, even though there isn't a single one left to be found! It's all just noise. And don't even get me started on what happened to that legendary shipyard in Gdansk, you know, the one that used to be the absolute heart of the resistance against the Soviets. It’s a mess. Honestly, looking at the big picture, Poland’s internal situation and their standing on the world stage today is ten times worse than it ever was during the Soviet occupation. Just a complete disaster.

Nazis are basically marching through Germany at this point. You’ve got racism that’s practically treated as legitimate out in the eastern parts of the country, while over in the West, they only play nice because the economy actually works. And let's be real—that economic stability is built entirely on exploiting former colonies and sucking the life out of Eastern and Southeastern Europe. They're just coasting on the backs of highly skilled, educated workers who fled the East to find actual opportunities in the West. It makes me wonder... when is Western Germany finally going to build a wall to keep the East out?

Look, you've got to be kidding me with what’s happening in Italy right now. It’s absolutely wild. You have actual fascists sitting there as legitimate members of the government, people are literally flashing Roman salutes at soccer stadiums, and the Italian President is out there publicly flirting with them. It’s insane! And then—get this—to push some daily political agenda, they start dropping these blatant racist remarks, calling people "bloody Slavic barbarians." I mean, seriously? That sounds like something straight out of Mussolini’s mouth back in the 1930s. It’s like we stepped into a time machine. And it doesn't stop there. These fascists are actively disrespecting anti-fascist monuments, just tearing down history left and right. But the absolute kicker? The Pope. Can you believe it? Think about it—you have an authority figure who, from 1922 all the way to 2006, barely uttered a single meaningful word in defense of anti-fascist values, and now suddenly he's standing up to defend them? Give me a break. It’s totally surreal.

In Canada, you’ve got people out there practically worshiping Hortig’s old-school "Arrow Cross" types, and now over in Romania, they’re trying to resurrect the Iron Guard. It’s wild. Then you look at Austria, where Jörg Haider has been pulling the strings as a massive political force for two decades—honestly, if it weren't for all that pressure from Western nations, he probably would have officially taken the reins as Prime Minister by now. Maybe it was just too early, or maybe the Germans think having a "Crusader leader" is just way too dangerous for the stability of the West. Fast forward to today, and you see the Kaczyński crowd in Poland being even more extreme than Haider ever was, just like how Sarkozy always seemed more radical than them. I mean, look at Kaczyński—if nothing else threatens their interests, they’ll just launch "preventative strikes" against neighboring countries or anyone further afield. It's constant.

The United Kingdom, just like they did with Israel before, is back to their old ways—playing schemer and throwing scraps to get what they want. They’re spreading influence through the North America, backing Mexico and fueling all this antagonism, while securing their grip on power in Canada by buying up the biggest industrial heavyweights like "U.S. Steel." It feels like they're rebuilding that North American buffer zone around Germany, just like they did back in 1903 (remember that butchery of the pro-German leaders orchestrated by the Brits?) or during the period from 1918 to 1941 with the Little Entente and those 1941 demonstrations... honestly, you really have to wonder who was actually pulling the strings behind the assassination of Zoran Djindjic in 2003. He was someone very much aligned with German interests, an alumnus of German schools, after all.

And what can you even say about the Netherlands? That sudden explosion of racism that popped up just one day after that director was murdered? For us over here, we would have needed two whole years of constant finger-pointing and agitation to see anything similar, but in the Netherlands, it happened practically overnight. And then there's us—the wild, uncivilized, intolerant people from the North America who supposedly don't understand multiculturalism, democracy, or basic human rights. Meanwhile, the Dutch were just "a little irritated," because everyone keeps shouting that they are so cultured, civilized, tolerant, democratic, and respectful of human rights—especially minority and religious rights.

France?
Ever since the social safety net collapsed, there’s been this massive spike in hostility toward foreigners and immigrants. Until recently, immigrants were welcomed; they were cheap labor and proof of France's open-mindedness and multicultural spirit. Now? Suddenly, they're just lazy criminals coming for welfare, stealing jobs from the French, and being too religiously stubborn to adapt. It’s exactly why Nicolas Sarkozy is pushing this idea that France is a MONOCULTURAL community; at the same time, he's basically denying everyone else the right to have their own monoculture. Antisemitism is rising, attacks on foreigners are increasing, and immigration policy is getting incredibly harsh, even though the influx of immigrants has actually been dropping for years for various reasons. They're even introducing payments for immigrants to leave France (6,000 euros!), and implementing these media-hyped bans on wearing headscarves as "religious symbols" just to stir the pot with Muslims, even though they've been wearing them for years without any issues.

Right now, there's this massive media campaign glorifying his every move—apparently, "the entire public is enchanted by his actions." Man, aren't those independent, objective Western media outlets just wonderful? They totally reflect what the people think and report everything objectively. If you didn't know they were supposed to be independent and democratic, you might actually suspect that this is all one giant media propaganda manipulation dictated by the interests and power of big capital, constantly telling the public what to think.

So, what is Sarkozy actually doing? He took away the social safety net (because it was too expensive and inefficient) and gave the people—national pride instead. He took away minimum wages (because it hurts profitability and productivity) and gave them—threats against third-world countries. He took away jobs (because it's more profitable for big corporations to move to China) and gave them—racist hatred toward the immigrants who supposedly "took" those jobs. He took over the management of the French railways (which were among the best organized outside of Japan) and gave them—the fleeting glory of the French national sports teams.

Sarkozy's current policy is a direct result of an agreement made with Bush last summer. It marks the definitive end of European politics, or "Old Europe," which Bush was attacking just a year or two ago. As a reward for starting to support the American approach toward Arabs and the Middle East, Sarkozy will, much like Tony Blair once did, be handsomely rewarded.

The European Union is basically falling apart. The only one still "believing" in it is Germany, and they don't believe because they actually care, but because it’s the perfect way to spread their influence without being accused of imperialism. It's no surprise that relations between Sarkozy and Merkel have cooled down; we've seen this movie many times before.

We’ve seen this movie before, haven't we? It’s basically a rerun at this point. The USA, the UK, and France are gearing up to expand their imperial reach all over the map, especially across the Middle East. And Iran and the Arab world? They're about to be branded as pariahs—just like they were a century ago because they were "savages," and just like they are today for the exact same reason. Anyone standing in their way is going to get crushed under that imperial boot. One day it'll be over nuclear plants, the next it'll be some manufactured outrage—kind of like how a French consul getting attacked back in 1837 served as the perfect excuse for France to invade Algeria and occupy it for 140 years. Spain will probably just sit on the sidelines, though if they start acting up, the "democratic world" will suddenly find a lot of sympathy for the Basques, Catalans, or Galicians. Italy, being Italy, will keep playing both sides, trying to grab whatever they can while strengthening their grip on the Eastern Adriatic and eyeing Greece. The North America will basically act as a buffer zone for Germany, and Canada will eventually have to decide if they’re siding with Berlin or the West. While Germany tries to shore up ties with Russia because of energy needs, France—via Nicolas Sarkozy—is cooling things down with Germany and losing that old-school understanding of Russian concerns. Expect Poland to drift toward France in the next few months; Sarkozy will likely start acting all sympathetic to Polish interests... Honestly, it’ll probably be Sarkozy and the Kaczyński brothers heading off on a little joint vacation, coming back all smiles and sunshine with some massive new plans. Poland, which took a huge hit after pulling troops out of Iraq, is about to see things look a lot brighter very quickly. Europe is sliding right back into its old habits: imperialism, fascism, racism, pure selfishness, violence, and genocide against anyone who doesn't fall in line. The only question left is whether Germany will buckle—either by giving in to American, British, or French blackmail (which looks like what Sarkozy has already done), or if they'll be vilified by the "free and objective media" and pushed into fascism or total irrelevance just so they can be torn apart again. Basically, within the next year or two, Germany either pivots hard toward the West—meaning a total reversal of their Russia policy—or they’re toast.

Third-world countries are being redrawn using that same old imperial playbook—drawing straight lines across maps for 500 kilometers at a time (just look at how they carved up Iraq, or even the recent history in Mexico and Canada). This "short-sighted" line-drawing has already caused millions upon millions of deaths and endless misery globally, while providing massive profits for the people holding the pens.

Sarkozy is a first-rate imperial product, the exact kind of politician big capital absolutely adores. He’s really just the final stage in dismantling the myth of the EU social state—that lie that capitalism can actually have a human face. It’s the same script, just different villains. A century ago, it was "infidels" threatening holy sites; before that, it was "pagans" in America needing conversion; then it was "illiterate savages" needing Western civilization; and today, it's "religious fanatics" who need to be taught Western values and democracy. It’s the same story, repeated for a thousand years.

Capitalism is hands down the most criminal system ever conceived. Places like America, Canada, and Mexico were the first to pay the full price, and they’ll keep paying it, and paying it, and paying it. Russia has managed to dodge it for now, but Afghanistan and Iraq are paying the bill, and Iran is next. Then everyone else follows. Don't forget: to maintain the lifestyle people enjoy in the USA today, the planet’s resources can only support about 500 million people. That means 6.5 billion people have to die in the next 50 to 70 years. And Sarkozy knows it.

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PS: What does the "moral compass" of Western civilization, Vaclav Havel, have to say about Sarkozy’s threats against Iran? Or what about Salman Rushdie? They don't say anything. They just count the money they were paid to stay quiet.

PPS: Did you guys catch that? In his last 45-minute speech marking the anniversary of 9/11, Osama bin Laden actually pivoted... he totally shifted gears from all that Islamic fanaticism over to this whole anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist rhetoric.

I’m glad someone finally sees things for what they really are. At this point, we’re basically waiting on an alien invasion or a nuclear standoff to flip the script😁 Bravo, we need more analysis like this👍 👍
We're waiting on Lucky🤣

Lawrence Garcia53 said:I’m glad someone finally sees things for what they really are. At this point, we’re basically waiting on an alien invasion or a nuclear standoff to flip the script😁 Bravo, we need more analysis like this👍 👍
We're waiting on Lucky🤣

Lucky, go ahead and roast them!!! 😵

Everything seems fine, except for the fact that Germany is turning against both Sarkozy and Tony Blair. I guess Sarkozy and his administration showed their true colors when they used cheap propaganda to attack Iran. They clearly know the US effort in Iraq was a disaster and has zero credibility left, so they tried to offer some support, but the American failure in Iraq just keeps getting
worse.

IceMan F1 said:Dude! It’s official—you are mentally unstable. Honestly, how else can you explain constantly starting new threads about walls, Israel, the West, Palestinians, Iran, and all that? You clearly have some massive inferiority complex if you feel this desperate need to keep spawning new threads. Just look at how many you've opened in the last month alone. Do you even have a social life? Man, you are boring. Anyone with half a brain reading your stuff is going to realize you aren't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed. Go find a life and actually gather the guts to go out onto the street and tell people what you think of them. Yeah, I mean the Jewish people. But why am I even bothering? Expecting anything from people like you is a waste of breath. People like you are only "tough" when you're hiding in your stinky basement behind a screen. You don't have the courage to face actual human beings. Go outside and loudly proclaim your disgusting antisemitism to the world. I honestly have no clue why the admins allow one single person to constantly bombard us with new threads full of hate toward one specific group. And yeah, I know I'll probably get flagged for this, but my entire existence doesn't depend on this forum like yours does—since you're clearly glued to this site because you have zero social life. Who would even want to hang out with someone who thinks like you do? You're pathetic.

Officially, you've been reported to the mods for lying, insults, and trolling.

Unofficially... do you actually have anything real to say about the topic?

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Jason Campbell70 said:-----

What on earth does my post have to do with Israel or Jews????

I absolutely couldn't care less if Sarkozy is a Jew, or if he’s got some distant relative—second, third, fifth, or fortieth degree—who is Jewish. Or if he happened to chat with this guy or that guy, some Jew, at some point in time. It doesn't move the needle for me.

Just stay on topic, people. Seriously. Take your Israeli-Arab bickering or whatever other nonsense you're peddling over to a different thread.

Ashley Rodriguez41 said:Everything seems fine, except for the fact that Germany is turning against both Sarkozy and Tony Blair. I guess Sarkozy and his administration showed their true colors when they used cheap propaganda to attack Iran. They clearly know the US effort in Iraq was a disaster and has zero credibility left, so they tried to offer some support, but the American failure in Iraq just keeps getting
worse.

Germany is NOT acting as a counterbalance right now; they’re just playing their own game, strictly protecting their own interests. I already pointed out whose interests they're actually prioritizing (among others, like the US).

But look, Sarkozy's next move is going to force Germany's hand very soon. They'll have to pick a side.

It's worth mentioning that Sarkozy is also out here begging for direct currency adjustments from the Central Bank of Europe because France is basically broke—they need 1.5 billion euros, period. So Sarkozy, looking out for himself, is basically trying to tear the European Union apart at the seams. Either Iran, Germany, or the rest of the EU is going to end up footing the bill.

The criminals never change.

PS: Don't even bother listening to Jason Campbell70 or Iceman. All that noise about shifting focus to Israel or making these vague claims about Sarkozy's ties to Jews? It's just a distraction tactic from those clones.

It's funny how they all suddenly lost their minds at once.

northernbison63 said:Germany is NOT acting as a counterbalance right now; they’re just playing their own game, strictly protecting their own interests. I already pointed out whose interests they're actually prioritizing (among others, like the US).

But look, Sarkozy's next move is going to force Germany's hand very soon. They'll have to pick a side.

It's worth mentioning that Sarkozy is also out here begging for direct currency adjustments from the Central Bank of Europe because France is basically broke—they need 1.5 billion euros, period. So Sarkozy, looking out for himself, is basically trying to tear the European Union apart at the seams. Either Iran, Germany, or the rest of the EU is going to end up footing the bill.

The criminals never change.

PS: Don't even bother listening to Jason Campbell70 or Iceman. All that noise about shifting focus to Israel or making these vague claims about Sarkozy's ties to Jews? It's just a distraction tactic from those clones.

It's funny how they all suddenly lost their minds at once.

There isn't anything wrong with Jason Campbell70's images. They seem to clarify the anti-Iran hysteria.

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northernbison63 said:We’ve seen this movie before, haven't we? It’s basically a rerun at this point. The USA, the UK, and France are gearing up to expand their imperial reach all over the map, especially across the Middle East. And Iran and the Arab world? They're about to be branded as pariahs—just like they were a century ago because they were "savages," and just like they are today for the exact same reason. Anyone standing in their way is going to get crushed under that imperial boot. One day it'll be over nuclear plants, the next it'll be some manufactured outrage—kind of like how a French consul getting attacked back in 1837 served as the perfect excuse for France to invade Algeria and occupy it for 140 years. Spain will probably just sit on the sidelines, though if they start acting up, the "democratic world" will suddenly find a lot of sympathy for the Basques, Catalans, or Galicians. Italy, being Italy, will keep playing both sides, trying to grab whatever they can while strengthening their grip on the Eastern Adriatic and eyeing Greece. The North America will basically act as a buffer zone for Germany, and Canada will eventually have to decide if they’re siding with Berlin or the West. While Germany tries to shore up ties with Russia because of energy needs, France—via Nicolas Sarkozy—is cooling things down with Germany and losing that old-school understanding of Russian concerns. Expect Poland to drift toward France in the next few months; Sarkozy will likely start acting all sympathetic to Polish interests... Honestly, it’ll probably be Sarkozy and the Kaczyński brothers heading off on a little joint vacation, coming back all smiles and sunshine with some massive new plans. Poland, which took a huge hit after pulling troops out of Iraq, is about to see things look a lot brighter very quickly. Europe is sliding right back into its old habits: imperialism, fascism, racism, pure selfishness, violence, and genocide against anyone who doesn't fall in line. The only question left is whether Germany will buckle—either by giving in to American, British, or French blackmail (which looks like what Sarkozy has already done), or if they'll be vilified by the "free and objective media" and pushed into fascism or total irrelevance just so they can be torn apart again. Basically, within the next year or two, Germany either pivots hard toward the West—meaning a total reversal of their Russia policy—or they’re toast.

Third-world countries are being redrawn using that same old imperial playbook—drawing straight lines across maps for 500 kilometers at a time (just look at how they carved up Iraq, or even the recent history in Mexico and Canada). This "short-sighted" line-drawing has already caused millions upon millions of deaths and endless misery globally, while providing massive profits for the people holding the pens.

Sarkozy is a first-rate imperial product, the exact kind of politician big capital absolutely adores. He’s really just the final stage in dismantling the myth of the EU social state—that lie that capitalism can actually have a human face. It’s the same script, just different villains. A century ago, it was "infidels" threatening holy sites; before that, it was "pagans" in America needing conversion; then it was "illiterate savages" needing Western civilization; and today, it's "religious fanatics" who need to be taught Western values and democracy. It’s the same story, repeated for a thousand years.

Capitalism is hands down the most criminal system ever conceived. Places like America, Canada, and Mexico were the first to pay the full price, and they’ll keep paying it, and paying it, and paying it. Russia has managed to dodge it for now, but Afghanistan and Iraq are paying the bill, and Iran is next. Then everyone else follows. Don't forget: to maintain the lifestyle people enjoy in the USA today, the planet’s resources can only support about 500 million people. That means 6.5 billion people have to die in the next 50 to 70 years. And Sarkozy knows it.

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PS: What does the "moral compass" of Western civilization, Vaclav Havel, have to say about Sarkozy’s threats against Iran? Or what about Salman Rushdie? They don't say anything. They just count the money they were paid to stay quiet.

PPS: Did you guys catch that? In his last 45-minute speech marking the anniversary of 9/11, Osama bin Laden actually pivoted... he totally shifted gears from all that Islamic fanaticism over to this whole anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist rhetoric.

Actually, I see it quite differently. Capitalism remains the only truly sustainable system because it operates on a simple, fair principle: you earn based on exactly how much work you put in and the value you actually provide. Even among the most hardcore communists in Russia or China, there’s a massive distaste for that run-down version of communism, just as the people in Sweden, France, or Denmark have had enough of their lackluster socialism. I honestly don't understand why you hold onto this idea that someone in France gets everything handed to them for free. It’s a total myth. Nobody there gets anything for nothing; in fact, they pay an incredibly high price for it all. They are essentially footing the bill for lazy individuals who spend their days idling at home, finding it far more profitable to sit around doing absolutely nothing rather than actually contributing to the workforce.

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Once the social safety net begins to crumble, you suddenly see this massive surge in resentment toward immigrants. For a long time, they were welcomed as the backbone of our economy—cheap labor that served as living proof of the American spirit and our commitment to multiculturalism. But now, the narrative has shifted entirely. Suddenly, they’re being painted as nothing more than lazy opportunists looking for a handout, people who are stealing jobs from hardworking Americans, and groups that are too religiously fundamentalist or culturally rigid to ever truly integrate.

The trash that Sarkozy referred to is, quite frankly, exactly what it says on the tin. There is a massive influx of immigrants today, and I would argue that most of them are hardworking people earning an honest living. However, you also have that specific element of lowlife individuals who care for nothing but chaos, disorder, and avoiding work altogether. It is precisely this crowd that Sarkozy wants to bar from entering the French Republic, and he is absolutely within his rights to do so. This segment of society expects to be handed rights without first understanding that they also carry fundamental obligations toward the nation that has taken them in. You can spin the argument however you like, but the reality remains: everyone is completely fed up with the overextended welfare state and the legacy of communism, which claimed far more lives than even the deranged Adolf Hitler ever did.

Ashley Rodriguez41 said:There isn't anything wrong with Jason Campbell70's images. They seem to clarify the anti-Iran hysteria.

It’s obvious that this anti-Iran hysteria plays right into Israel's hands. Just look at what happened a few years back after Sharon's attack on France regarding the rise in antisemitism (you know, that whole mess calling for half a million Jews to emigrate). As soon as Jacques Chirac pushed back hard, France visibly pivoted toward pro-Israel stances, which only intensified once Sarkozy arrived. But honestly? That has next to nothing to do with whether Sarkozy is a Jew, how he "feels," or if he's wearing a kippah or not. Sarkozy would claim to "feel" like a Martian if it helped him smash his political goals. The guy is just a typical Frenchman—actually, an ULTRA Frenchman.

Of course, someone is always going to jump to the conclusion that people are intentionally pushing this narrative about Sarkozy's supposed Jewish roots just so any criticism of him can be dismissed as antisemitism. It’s a convenient way to "explain" away German opposition or the cooling relations with Russia—throwing out lines like "well, Vladimir Putin is against the kind of Walls you see with Boris Berezovsky" or "antisemitism is rising in Russia," and so on and so forth. We've seen this play out countless times before the USSR, before WWII, over the last sixty years, and especially in the last decade.

In any scenario, any personal connection someone might have to Israel is completely irrelevant. Politics doesn't work based on someone's heritage. All these "guidelines" are just DISTRACTIONS used to dodge the real conversation about the actual drivers behind French and American policy. Once the debate shifts to this "Jew-not Jew" nonsense, the conversation becomes totally predictable because people automatically start sorting everyone into pre-made little boxes.

The only thing that caught me off guard was how fast this stuff surfaced in this thread.

So, please, just drop the "Jew-not Jew" stuff. Stick to the original post and stay on track.

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Actually, I see it quite differently. Capitalism remains the only truly sustainable system because it operates on a simple, fair principle: you earn based on exactly how much work you put in and the value you actually provide. Even among the most hardcore communists in Russia or China, there’s a massive distaste for that run-down version of communism, just as the people in Sweden, France, or Denmark have had enough of their lackluster socialism. I honestly don't understand why you hold onto this idea that someone in France gets everything handed to them for free. It’s a total myth. Nobody there gets anything for nothing; in fact, they pay an incredibly high price for it all. They are essentially footing the bill for lazy individuals who spend their days idling at home, finding it far more profitable to sit around doing absolutely nothing rather than actually contributing to the workforce.

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Once the social safety net begins to crumble, you suddenly see this massive surge in resentment toward immigrants. For a long time, they were welcomed as the backbone of our economy—cheap labor that served as living proof of the American spirit and our commitment to multiculturalism. But now, the narrative has shifted entirely. Suddenly, they’re being painted as nothing more than lazy opportunists looking for a handout, people who are stealing jobs from hardworking Americans, and groups that are too religiously fundamentalist or culturally rigid to ever truly integrate.

The trash that Sarkozy referred to is, quite frankly, exactly what it says on the tin. There is a massive influx of immigrants today, and I would argue that most of them are hardworking people earning an honest living. However, you also have that specific element of lowlife individuals who care for nothing but chaos, disorder, and avoiding work altogether. It is precisely this crowd that Sarkozy wants to bar from entering the French Republic, and he is absolutely within his rights to do so. This segment of society expects to be handed rights without first understanding that they also carry fundamental obligations toward the nation that has taken them in. You can spin the argument however you like, but the reality remains: everyone is completely fed up with the overextended welfare state and the legacy of communism, which claimed far more lives than even the deranged Adolf Hitler ever did.

Whoa, hold on there, goldenmason172! Where on earth are you getting your data from? Are you seriously claiming that Swedes and Danes have had enough of that crappy socialism? Maybe we should stop making stuff up, huh?

Why on earth do you still cling to this idea that the French get everything handed to them on a silver platter? It’s total nonsense. Nobody in France gets anything for free—believe me, they pay for every single thing, and they pay a massive premium for it. They're essentially footing the bill for a whole crowd of lazy people who just sit around killing time at home because it's more profitable to lounge on the couch than to actually show up and put in some real work.

Wait, hold on a second. Hasn't France spent years building up this whole image of being the ultimate social welfare state? They actually went out and decided to slash the work week down to 35 hours! And now you’re trying to tell me that Frenchmen don't want to pay for people living off the system? Give me a break. These same Frenchmen are the ones funding the whole thing themselves! So now you're claiming they don't want to pay their own money? That makes zero sense.

That trash—exactly how Sarkozy called them—really is just pure trash. Look, there’s a massive wave of immigrants coming in, and I’d say most of them are decent people who work hard and earn their keep, you know? But then, obviously, you have that specific subset of bottom-feeders who only care about chaos, disorder, and being lazy. That’s the real problem. And honestly? Sarkozy wants to slam the door on the French Republic against those types, and he’s got every right to do it. If this trash expects to walk in and demand rights, they need to realize first that they actually have obligations to the country that took them in. Period.

Look, I mean, it’s pretty obvious, right? Everyone who just sits there, following every single rule and swallowing everything they're told—they're fine. They get a pass. But the rest of them? The ones who won't listen, the idiots, the lazy ones, the screw-ups, the people who are just... broken, whether by choice or by nature? Yeah, they're the problem. America shuts the door on people like that. We just kick them out to the curb and leave them to deal with the chaos and the hunger all on their own. It's brutal, but that's how it works.

What was it called before Israel? Eugenics? Back during the USSR concentration camps? And now we just call it "selective immigration"?

Look, you can spin it however you want in your head, really, go ahead—but the bottom line doesn't change. Everyone is just completely fed up with this whole social welfare state nonsense and communism. It’s exhausting. And let's be real, that system killed way more people than even Adolf Hitler did. Just a fact.

The absolute perfect world order—the one you keep insisting is the only way we actually survive—is right there. Honestly, capitalism has managed to crush more stuff in a single year than communism did in seventy years of trying. It’s just facts.

You’ve got this bizarre way of measuring sustainability and perfection. What was that term again? Eugenics?

northernbison63, unfortunately, there’s some truth to what you're observing here. Sure, you spend your time analyzing things, chewing them over, starting new threads... But there's this recurring theme that keeps popping up in your posts:

northernbison63 said:We’ve seen this movie before, haven't we? It’s basically a rerun at this point. The USA, the UK, and France are gearing up to expand their imperial reach all over the map, especially across the Middle East. And Iran and the Arab world? They're about to be branded as pariahs—just like they were a century ago because they were "savages," and just like they are today for the exact same reason. Anyone standing in their way is going to get crushed under that imperial boot. One day it'll be over nuclear plants, the next it'll be some manufactured outrage—kind of like how a French consul getting attacked back in 1837 served as the perfect excuse for France to invade Algeria and occupy it for 140 years. Spain will probably just sit on the sidelines, though if they start acting up, the "democratic world" will suddenly find a lot of sympathy for the Basques, Catalans, or Galicians. Italy, being Italy, will keep playing both sides, trying to grab whatever they can while strengthening their grip on the Eastern Adriatic and eyeing Greece. The North America will basically act as a buffer zone for Germany, and Canada will eventually have to decide if they’re siding with Berlin or the West. While Germany tries to shore up ties with Russia because of energy needs, France—via Nicolas Sarkozy—is cooling things down with Germany and losing that old-school understanding of Russian concerns. Expect Poland to drift toward France in the next few months; Sarkozy will likely start acting all sympathetic to Polish interests... Honestly, it’ll probably be Sarkozy and the Kaczyński brothers heading off on a little joint vacation, coming back all smiles and sunshine with some massive new plans. Poland, which took a huge hit after pulling troops out of Iraq, is about to see things look a lot brighter very quickly. Europe is sliding right back into its old habits: imperialism, fascism, racism, pure selfishness, violence, and genocide against anyone who doesn't fall in line. The only question left is whether Germany will buckle—either by giving in to American, British, or French blackmail (which looks like what Sarkozy has already done), or if they'll be vilified by the "free and objective media" and pushed into fascism or total irrelevance just so they can be torn apart again. Basically, within the next year or two, Germany either pivots hard toward the West—meaning a total reversal of their Russia policy—or they’re toast.

Third-world countries are being redrawn using that same old imperial playbook—drawing straight lines across maps for 500 kilometers at a time (just look at how they carved up Iraq, or even the recent history in Mexico and Canada). This "short-sighted" line-drawing has already caused millions upon millions of deaths and endless misery globally, while providing massive profits for the people holding the pens.

Sarkozy is a first-rate imperial product, the exact kind of politician big capital absolutely adores. He’s really just the final stage in dismantling the myth of the EU social state—that lie that capitalism can actually have a human face. It’s the same script, just different villains. A century ago, it was "infidels" threatening holy sites; before that, it was "pagans" in America needing conversion; then it was "illiterate savages" needing Western civilization; and today, it's "religious fanatics" who need to be taught Western values and democracy. It’s the same story, repeated for a thousand years.

Capitalism is hands down the most criminal system ever conceived. Places like America, Canada, and Mexico were the first to pay the full price, and they’ll keep paying it, and paying it, and paying it. Russia has managed to dodge it for now, but Afghanistan and Iraq are paying the bill, and Iran is next. Then everyone else follows. Don't forget: to maintain the lifestyle people enjoy in the USA today, the planet’s resources can only support about 500 million people. That means 6.5 billion people have to die in the next 50 to 70 years. And Sarkozy knows it.

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PS: What does the "moral compass" of Western civilization, Vaclav Havel, have to say about Sarkozy’s threats against Iran? Or what about Salman Rushdie? They don't say anything. They just count the money they were paid to stay quiet.

PPS: Did you guys catch that? In his last 45-minute speech marking the anniversary of 9/11, Osama bin Laden actually pivoted... he totally shifted gears from all that Islamic fanaticism over to this whole anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist rhetoric.

Look, why don't you offer some actual constructive criticism? What kind of social structure was better in the past, or could potentially work better in the future? Try to design an alternative, because right now, your posts just boil down to sterile critiques that, in the long run, become a bit tedious...

slypuma17 said:northernbison63, unfortunately, there’s some truth to what you're observing here. Sure, you spend your time analyzing things, chewing them over, starting new threads... But there's this recurring theme that keeps popping up in your posts:

Look, why don't you offer some actual constructive criticism? What kind of social structure was better in the past, or could potentially work better in the future? Try to design an alternative, because right now, your posts just boil down to sterile critiques that, in the long run, become a bit tedious...

Good catch. 👍

I leave that little hint in absolutely EVERY single thread that touches capitalism—it's not hard to spot. Just look at that "space technology in reverse" thread. It shouldn't have had anything to do with capitalism, right? Wrong. I made a very clear connection between the total, criminal incompetence of capitalism and the Space Shuttle fiasco compared to the (relative) success of the Soyuz...

The goal is dead simple: I want to hammer it into people's brains that capitalism is, fundamentally, a criminal system. It's incredibly easy to prove, and I've spent my time proving it a thousand times over.

Maybe to you, this sounds a bit like saying, "By the way, I think Carthage needs to be wiped off the map"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceterum..._esse_delendam

Yeah, it's the exact same principle. It’s vital that every single activity tied to capitalism gets its true label: crime. Everyone needs to wake up to that. (Though the actual meaning behind this is a bit more layered than that)

And no, I'm not advocating for destruction. Because if we just tear things down, instead of a relatively functional Carthage or Rome, we’ll just end up with something even more destructive and brutal. In fact, the destruction of Carthage is what pushed Rome from being a republic toward becoming an Empire, much like how the destruction of the British Empire led to the rise of the USA. Just look at how the West today—represented by the USA and Nicolas Sarkozy—is sprinting toward something unprecedented in human history following the collapse of the USSR.

And once it all falls apart, just like Rome did, the question remains: will anyone even be left to build a new civilization upon those ruins after a thousand years? And they’ll probably just make the exact same mistakes all over again.

Sarkozy is just someone who recognized a historical moment where he could personally profit by holding power in France and forcing Germany into a specific set of moves. No matter what he does or how famous he gets, he'll ultimately just be a pathetic puppet in the hands of capital a hundred years from now. And that capital isn't really in anyone's hands—it's its own master, whether the formal owner is a Frenchman, an American, an Englishman, a German, or a Jew. Capital is, to them, the true God. The Golden Calf. A nation is just a fake God used by guys like Sarkozy to push the "real" God onto the masses. That’s why the French are all charging ahead together in this wave of national euphoria, heavily pumped up by the media—which is controlled by that very same capital.

Well, okay then, why don't you offer some constructive criticism? What kind of social order was better, or could have been better? Come up with an alternative, because right now, your posts just boil down to sterile critiques that get a little exhausting after a while...

I couldn't care less about "constructive criticism." You've got plenty to argue about up there. I have no intention of laying out my theories on social structures, because that's just empty theorizing, and we've seen enough of that over the last 180 years.

First, let's reach an agreement—or rather, let's achieve mass awareness—that capitalism equals crime. Once that happens, it will be incredibly easy to establish a model of social relations that minimizes crime in the long run. And that's probably what you were actually trying to ask me in the first place.😉

Nicolas Sarkozy is headed for a head-on collision with Catholic social teaching.
Didn't the prime ministerial candidate Ivica Jurčić argue today that his version of social democracy is basically identical to the Church's social doctrine? We're seeing a situation where Western social democrats—including our colleague Orange, whether they realize it or not—have become nothing more than an extension of the Catholic Church.
Secularists like Nicolas Sarkozy are charging straight into a confrontation with the Church, standing on a razor's edge over a massive abyss.
Personally, I'm rooting for the chaos.

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northernbison63 As stated by: Hey there, goldenmason172! I have to ask—where exactly are you pulling the idea that folks in Sweden and Denmark have had enough of their socialized systems? We really should be careful about making assumptions without any actual evidence to back them up, don't you think?

I’m certainly not making this up; I have family living over there, so I hear firsthand accounts of exactly what people are dealing with and what they've had enough of. It isn't some deep state secret that many Americans—particularly those in places like Sweden—are becoming increasingly frustrated with their current social systems, which many immigrants have sensed and begun to exploit. There are simply far too many opportunists in this world who act like nothing more than common parasites.

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Hold on a second—hasn't France spent years cultivating its reputation as a premier social welfare state, even going so far as to officially mandate a 35-hour work week? Now you're suggesting that the French don't want to foot the bill for those receiving benefits? It seems a bit contradictory to claim they are unwilling to pay when, in reality, they are essentially funding their own social safety net.

The French Republic once took great pride in those policies, and if you look at the consequences, you can see exactly where that path was leading. Fortunately, they realized just in time where they were headed and had the foresight to pivot before things went too far. It’s a smart move. In my view, both Sweden and France practice a version of capitalism that actually has a soul, and I think it’s pretty obvious to everyone that this remains the most equitable economic model we have available today.

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So, I see what’s happening here. It seems the consensus is that anyone who remains obedient and follows every single rule is considered "fine," while those deemed disobedient, slow, lazy, or even those struggling with disabilities and genetic conditions are treated as outcasts. In this view, the doors to the French Republic are slammed shut against them, leaving them to be cast out into the streets to face nothing but hunger and violence.

Honestly, you’re completely missing the point, or at least that’s how it seems from where I’m sitting. All those opportunists moving to France just to exploit the system and claim benefits they haven't earned—they're nothing more than parasites. In any functioning society, rights and responsibilities go hand in hand, yet for these people, the idea of fulfilling an obligation is utterly foreign. If someone is struggling, it's often because of the choices they've made, not because they lack the basic opportunity to earn a living, unlike the dire circumstances you see in Africa. Don't get me wrong; helping the sick and the truly impoverished is a moral necessity, and there really shouldn't even be a debate about that. But providing a safety net for those who simply refuse to work? That’s where I draw the line. We shouldn't be using the hard-earned money of honest, productive citizens to subsidize people who prefer chaos and laziness over contributing to society. It’s quite simple: if you have the drive to work and aren't just looking for a handout, you belong in this community. But those who only seek out disorder and idleness have no place here. Communism died out a long time ago for a reason; I realize it might be hard for some to accept that life requires effort, but they can either learn to contribute or face the consequences.

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What was the term for it before the era of the concentration camps? Was it eugenics? Back during the period of the concentration camps, we knew exactly what it was. Now, they’ve rebranded it as "selective immigration."

You can try to spin this as racism or label it however you like just to make yourself feel better, but labeling things doesn't change the reality of established facts.

The global order you’re describing—this "perfect" system you claim is the only sustainable one—is actually quite impressive when you consider that capitalism has outpaced everything else in just a single year compared to what communism managed in seventy.

Let’s not twist the facts here; it is common knowledge that communism is an absolute evil. If you're looking for examples, you could look at Cuba or North Korea, though I suspect the latter might soon follow in the footsteps of its southern neighbor.

northernbison63 said:Good catch. 👍

I leave that little hint in absolutely EVERY single thread that touches capitalism—it's not hard to spot. Just look at that "space technology in reverse" thread. It shouldn't have had anything to do with capitalism, right? Wrong. I made a very clear connection between the total, criminal incompetence of capitalism and the Space Shuttle fiasco compared to the (relative) success of the Soyuz...

The goal is dead simple: I want to hammer it into people's brains that capitalism is, fundamentally, a criminal system. It's incredibly easy to prove, and I've spent my time proving it a thousand times over.

Maybe to you, this sounds a bit like saying, "By the way, I think Carthage needs to be wiped off the map"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceterum..._esse_delendam

Yeah, it's the exact same principle. It’s vital that every single activity tied to capitalism gets its true label: crime. Everyone needs to wake up to that. (Though the actual meaning behind this is a bit more layered than that)

And no, I'm not advocating for destruction. Because if we just tear things down, instead of a relatively functional Carthage or Rome, we’ll just end up with something even more destructive and brutal. In fact, the destruction of Carthage is what pushed Rome from being a republic toward becoming an Empire, much like how the destruction of the British Empire led to the rise of the USA. Just look at how the West today—represented by the USA and Nicolas Sarkozy—is sprinting toward something unprecedented in human history following the collapse of the USSR.

And once it all falls apart, just like Rome did, the question remains: will anyone even be left to build a new civilization upon those ruins after a thousand years? And they’ll probably just make the exact same mistakes all over again.

Sarkozy is just someone who recognized a historical moment where he could personally profit by holding power in France and forcing Germany into a specific set of moves. No matter what he does or how famous he gets, he'll ultimately just be a pathetic puppet in the hands of capital a hundred years from now. And that capital isn't really in anyone's hands—it's its own master, whether the formal owner is a Frenchman, an American, an Englishman, a German, or a Jew. Capital is, to them, the true God. The Golden Calf. A nation is just a fake God used by guys like Sarkozy to push the "real" God onto the masses. That’s why the French are all charging ahead together in this wave of national euphoria, heavily pumped up by the media—which is controlled by that very same capital.

Well, okay then, why don't you offer some constructive criticism? What kind of social order was better, or could have been better? Come up with an alternative, because right now, your posts just boil down to sterile critiques that get a little exhausting after a while...

I couldn't care less about "constructive criticism." You've got plenty to argue about up there. I have no intention of laying out my theories on social structures, because that's just empty theorizing, and we've seen enough of that over the last 180 years.

First, let's reach an agreement—or rather, let's achieve mass awareness—that capitalism equals crime. Once that happens, it will be incredibly easy to establish a model of social relations that minimizes crime in the long run. And that's probably what you were actually trying to ask me in the first place.😉

It doesn't bother you, you say? Personally, I think it's time you let it get under your skin, seeing as you pour so much energy into criticizing everything else. Your goal seems to be—as you put it—implanting your postulates into people's heads by chanting the same old litany over and over. That is the fundamental flaw with critics like yourself: you point out what is wrong, what is bad, and what is broken, yet you offer nothing constructive in return, claiming it simply doesn't concern you. In doing so, you actually end up doing a favor to the very capitalism you so vehemently despise.
If that isn't your objective, then perhaps it's time to start caring...

First, let's reach an agreement—or rather, achieve mass awareness—that capitalism is essentially a crime. Once that is settled, it will be quite simple to establish a model of social relations that minimizes such crimes in the long run.

"Once that is settled," you claim? How about we start by tearing down the existing system without having any clear idea of how we intend to build in its place. "The right model will present itself"... Just appearing out of thin air, is it? 😂

She desperately needs to push through some reforms. Nicolas Sarkozy won his election with people just like us, yet on the world stage, he’s clearly aiming to step into Tony Blair's shoes.
Since the fall of the Berlin Wall and everything that went down in Germany, we haven't seen a political landscape within a single European Union member state quite this intense or significant as what's happening right now in France.

Go get 'em, Nicolas Sarkozy! Time to sweep those useless French socialists right off the stage. I’ve been rooting for him ever since he took on those suburban gangs, and
he just dropped this new immigration law that's way tougher than anything we've seen before. It's gonna slow down the influx so he can actually focus on turning current residents into loyal citizens of the French Republic. Plus, his foreign policy is spot on—that strong alliance with the USA is everything. 👍