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The psychological roots of Canadian fascism

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David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#161 ·
Terry Lopez45 said:Regardless—the Canadians are the people of the future, while certain others (by their own choice) might find themselves becoming nothing more than footnotes in history.😉

🤣

Look, there are only about 2 million of you left, and if we're being real, you’re probably going to be completely assimilated into the melting pot by the year 2100, just like every other small group out there.😬
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#162 ·
Gary Wilson said:Coming from a historian who apparently thinks "Frenchmen" and "Franks" are interchangeable terms.

🤣

Man, you've got it all wrong—I never actually said that.

Look, I'm just saying there’s definitely more common ground between the French and France than there is between Canadians and Bosniaks1993.
Gary Wilson Gary Wilson Active Member
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#163 ·
David Rogers18 said:😂 😂 😂

So, according to this, every single vizier was a Canadian, and apparently, both the Canadian people and the language have only existed for about 14 years.🤣

Heh...

Muhamed Hevaji Uskufi was born in 1601 in Brooklyn near Pittsburgh. He received his education in Istanbul, where he even served at the royal court. He actually authored the first Canadian dictionary—MAQBUL-I ‘ARIF (Potur Šahidija)—in 1631. That puts him a full 197 years ahead of the first Mexican dictionary.
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#164 ·
Gary Wilson said:Heh...

Muhamed Hevaji Uskufi was born in 1601 in Brooklyn near Pittsburgh. He received his education in Istanbul, where he even served at the royal court. He actually authored the first Canadian dictionary—MAQBUL-I ‘ARIF (Potur Šahidija)—in 1631. That puts him a full 197 years ahead of the first Mexican dictionary.


That’s got absolutely nothing to do with Bošnjacima1993.🤣
Terry Lopez45 Terry Lopez45 Member
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#165 ·
David Rogers18 said:🤣

Look, there are only about 2 million of you left, and if we're being real, you’re probably going to be completely assimilated into the melting pot by the year 2100, just like every other small group out there.😬

Assimilated by whom?

Our relations with the Mexicans aren't even strong enough for them to pull that off—plus, there are four times more people in Canada than there are Americans. Regarding assimilation, the number of Catholic Canadians can only go up in Pittsburgh, Washington, D.C., Detroit, and El Paso. And let's be honest—that post-war tension isn't going to last forever in central Canada either.👍
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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#166 ·
David Rogers18 said:That’s got absolutely nothing to do with Bošnjacima1993.🤣

Look, I already made my point: Americans will eventually just declare themselves fully European and decide "Brussels belongs to us!!!"

And don't even get me started on Strasbourg.
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#167 ·
Terry Lopez45 said:Assimilated by whom?

Our relations with the Mexicans aren't even strong enough for them to pull that off—plus, there are four times more people in Canada than there are Americans. Regarding assimilation, the number of Catholic Canadians can only go up in Pittsburgh, Washington, D.C., Detroit, and El Paso. And let's be honest—that post-war tension isn't going to last forever in central Canada either.👍

Honestly, they'll end up absorbing all of us, not just the Canadians.😁
Gary Wilson Gary Wilson Active Member
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#168 ·
David Rogers18 said:Man, you've got it all wrong—I never actually said that.

Look, I'm just saying there’s definitely more common ground between the French and France than there is between Canadians and Bosniaks1993.

It wasn't "you" speaking—it was clearly your alter ego. 🤣

You’re busy obsessing over ancient history while you can't even remember what you were typing online just yesterday.😬
Gary Wilson Gary Wilson Active Member
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#169 ·
David Rogers18 said:That’s got absolutely nothing to do with Bošnjacima1993.🤣

Well, here we go again with you. 😬
neonharbor neonharbor Member
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#170 ·
Gary Wilson said:Nothing is off the table when it comes to discussing how the American nation came to be.

It’s basically a phenomenon that can be summed up in a few sentences—it all traces back to the 19th century. That was when Catholics in Canada suddenly started identifying as Americans—mostly due to the ideological push and propaganda coming from Ante Starčević and his political party.

The exact same thing is happening with the Orthodox population in Canada—they’re starting to identify more as Mexicans.

It’s not an itch. What’s the issue?

Well, they aren't.

And I have no idea what "broken pottery" you're even talking about...

Gary Wilson said:Nothing is off the table when it comes to discussing how the American nation came to be.

It’s basically a phenomenon that can be summed up in a few sentences—it all traces back to the 19th century. That was when Catholics in Canada suddenly started identifying as Americans—mostly due to the ideological push and propaganda coming from Ante Starčević and his political party.

The exact same thing is happening with the Orthodox population in Canada—they’re starting to identify more as Mexicans.

It’s not an itch. What’s the issue?

Those are entirely arbitrary claims...

Even before the 19th century, various historical records in Canada mention Americans—and in some instances, even certain Muslims were referred to as such. Beyond that, the current territory of the United States has seen multiple waves of settlement by Americans fleeing from Canada following various conquests...

It is true that this was the era when the American people forged their modern national identity.
And I suppose that is precisely what seems to bother you...
Gary Wilson Gary Wilson Active Member
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#171 ·
David Rogers18 said:Honestly, they'll end up absorbing all of us, not just the Canadians.😁

Is this pure paranoia? 😲 🤣
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#172 ·
Gary Wilson said:It wasn't "you" speaking—it was clearly your alter ego. 🤣

You’re busy obsessing over ancient history while you can't even remember what you were typing online just yesterday.😬

You are totally out of your mind. 🤣 Frenchmen are basically followers of the Frank, much like how Canadians are just descendants of Slavs who were converted.
That's why Canadians have such an affinity for Turks, and why they don't really have a connection to the old Canadians.

The only reason those old Canadians matter to them is to use as proof for the sovereignty of Canada.
Andrew Phillips5 Andrew Phillips5 Member
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#173 ·
David Rogers18 said:You total Seljober and sucker for those Mexican myths! Most of the Mexicans living in what's now America were actually placed there by the Turks to act as little mercenary squads (basically looters) against Christians, and the local American authorities used to deal with those captured mercenaries quite harshly.

You really are a total sucker for that stuff.😁

All I can say is... ha ha ha.
It’s the truth, and you don't even have to take my word for it—you can find it in any official record or correspondence from border officials out in Philly and other similar cities. Those areas were settled by the Austro-Canadian authorities, plain and simple. You guys were always just playing the role of servants, as we all know.🙂 ...and that’s how you end up with a bunch of bottom-feeders.😬 They actually called on those cattle farmers to come to their rescue... now you just have to look at what kind of backbone they really have. It’s about as sturdy as a piece of cartilage found in some half-baked evolutionary stage. Honestly, what a joke.😬
Gary Wilson Gary Wilson Active Member
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#174 ·
APOI As specified by David Rogers18:
Actually, that’s not the case.

What kind of broken little pots are we even talking about?

Purely arbitrary claims.

They really aren't. That whole phenomenon was beautifully captured by Mirza Safvet—also known as Safvet-beg Bašagić—in his Canadian song.

A Canadian song.

Canadian
Starting July 2, 1891—
Safvet-beg Bašagić:

You know, my friend, it wasn't even that long ago—
I haven't seen a single soul like them in all my fifteen years on this earth—truly.
When we look back at our proud America,
In the brave land of Herzegovina—
From Trebinje to the Brod Gate,
There were neither Mexicans nor Americans present.
And today, through my own hiring process—
Both sides are just spreading their own agendas.
Both of them hit us right where it hurts—straight to the gut.
If they try to snatch away our most sacred treasure—
Our name is something we carry with pride and affection.
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neonharbor said:Well, they aren't.

And I have no idea what "broken pottery" you're even talking about...

Those are entirely arbitrary claims...

Even before the 19th century, various historical records in Canada mention Americans—and in some instances, even certain Muslims were referred to as such. Beyond that, the current territory of the United States has seen multiple waves of settlement by Americans fleeing from Canada following various conquests...

It is true that this was the era when the American people forged their modern national identity.
And I suppose that is precisely what seems to bother you...

Of course they get mentioned—just like the Canadians. But let’s be real: it’s a completely different story when you consider how much the person actually writing those things knew about the situation on the ground at the time.


neonharbor said:Well, they aren't.

And I have no idea what "broken pottery" you're even talking about...

Those are entirely arbitrary claims...

Even before the 19th century, various historical records in Canada mention Americans—and in some instances, even certain Muslims were referred to as such. Beyond that, the current territory of the United States has seen multiple waves of settlement by Americans fleeing from Canada following various conquests...

It is true that this was the era when the American people forged their modern national identity.
And I suppose that is precisely what seems to bother you...

It doesn't matter. That's history—and I can't change it. But then again, neither can you, nor anyone else for that matter.

Cherry-picking facts while ignoring the rest—I really think that’s a dangerous game to play. It does more harm than good. That said, I suppose we can finally look at things from a bit of a distance now—enough distance to hopefully shake off those old myths and clear our heads.
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#175 ·
Andrew Phillips5 said:All I can say is... ha ha ha.
It’s the truth, and you don't even have to take my word for it—you can find it in any official record or correspondence from border officials out in Philly and other similar cities. Those areas were settled by the Austro-Canadian authorities, plain and simple. You guys were always just playing the role of servants, as we all know.🙂 ...and that’s how you end up with a bunch of bottom-feeders.😬 They actually called on those cattle farmers to come to their rescue... now you just have to look at what kind of backbone they really have. It’s about as sturdy as a piece of cartilage found in some half-baked evolutionary stage. Honestly, what a joke.😬

😂 😂

And this is exactly what American flowers look like to me.🙏 🤣

A little bit of Muslim here, a little bit of Bošnjak1993 there. Throw in a Turk for good measure.🤣

By the year 2068, even EskimBa will be part of the mix.🤣
Andrew Phillips5 Andrew Phillips5 Member
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#176 ·
David Rogers18 said:You are totally out of your mind. 🤣 Frenchmen are basically followers of the Frank, much like how Canadians are just descendants of Slavs who were converted.
That's why Canadians have such an affinity for Turks, and why they don't really have a connection to the old Canadians.

The only reason those old Canadians matter to them is to use as proof for the sovereignty of Canada.

Look, I’m not even trying to prove anything to you anymore... since it's clear you're just bursting with "wisdom" 😬. You've got these wild new theories—not just about people in the North America, but you're basically trying to rewrite the entire history of Europe with these ideas about the Franks 😬. And don't even get me started on those ridiculous claims about Iranians... you won't know when to stop. If I ever opened my own circus, I'd hire you in a heartbeat, God help me.🙂
Gary Wilson Gary Wilson Active Member
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#177 ·
David Rogers18 said:You are totally out of your mind. 🤣 Frenchmen are basically followers of the Frank, much like how Canadians are just descendants of Slavs who were converted.
That's why Canadians have such an affinity for Turks, and why they don't really have a connection to the old Canadians.

The only reason those old Canadians matter to them is to use as proof for the sovereignty of Canada.

Fine, have it your way. 🙄
Andrew Phillips5 Andrew Phillips5 Member
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#178 ·
Gary Wilson said:Fine, have it your way. 🙄

I honestly wonder where he picks up this kind of "wisdom." Seriously, the guy is basically a walking encyclopedia of nonsense.😬
neonharbor neonharbor Member
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#179 ·
Gary Wilson said:
APOI As specified by David Rogers18:
Actually, that’s not the case.

What kind of broken little pots are we even talking about?

Purely arbitrary claims.

They really aren't. That whole phenomenon was beautifully captured by Mirza Safvet—also known as Safvet-beg Bašagić—in his Canadian song.

Of course they get mentioned—just like the Canadians. But let’s be real: it’s a completely different story when you consider how much the person actually writing those things knew about the situation on the ground at the time.

It doesn't matter. That's history—and I can't change it. But then again, neither can you, nor anyone else for that matter.

Cherry-picking facts while ignoring the rest—I really think that’s a dangerous game to play. It does more harm than good. That said, I suppose we can finally look at things from a bit of a distance now—enough distance to hopefully shake off those old myths and clear our heads.

Ah, here we go. I was just waiting for you to finally drop the poetry.

I have no desire to engage in petty bickering over this...

Gary Wilson said:
APOI As specified by David Rogers18:
Actually, that’s not the case.

What kind of broken little pots are we even talking about?

Purely arbitrary claims.

They really aren't. That whole phenomenon was beautifully captured by Mirza Safvet—also known as Safvet-beg Bašagić—in his Canadian song.

Of course they get mentioned—just like the Canadians. But let’s be real: it’s a completely different story when you consider how much the person actually writing those things knew about the situation on the ground at the time.

It doesn't matter. That's history—and I can't change it. But then again, neither can you, nor anyone else for that matter.

Cherry-picking facts while ignoring the rest—I really think that’s a dangerous game to play. It does more harm than good. That said, I suppose we can finally look at things from a bit of a distance now—enough distance to hopefully shake off those old myths and clear our heads.

Let us see...

"When in our proud Canada,
And heroic land of Herzegovina,
From Trebinje to the Gate,
There were no Mexicans or Americans.
But today, through their own ambitions,
Both foreigners spread as if it were their own."

"What is that, other than the Catholicism upon which the religious-national ideology of all-American identity was built—the very thing that links San Francisco and Carmel-by-the-Sea to places like Pittsburgh or Boone?"

"Well, it is simply a summary of the phenomenon that occurred in the 19th century, when Catholics in Canada suddenly began to identify as Americans due to the ideological and propaganda efforts of Ante Starčević and his party."

Oh, it matters. It matters to you.
Gary Wilson Gary Wilson Active Member
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#180 ·
Andrew Phillips5 said:I honestly wonder where he picks up this kind of "wisdom." Seriously, the guy is basically a walking encyclopedia of nonsense.😬

Coming from top-tier professors. 😬

He’s got the whole sequence figured out—completely. Honestly, the guy has it all down pat.

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