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What's the point of Zen koans?

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Participants Douglas Brown4placidrangerJonathan Brooks8Ryan Wilson2Brenda Cook4ambereagle642boldsailor2swiftcobra15bluemason3Jason Johnson4Dana Brooks3Joseph Davis5electricdrifter68Karen Sanchez19Hannah Wilson3Elizabeth Carter6Austin Hayes66placidharbor7Amanda Evans29mistyfox812Paul Campbell3Richard Murphy6Jesse Wright24Arthur Grant4 …
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active MemberOP
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#121 ·
electricdrifter68 said:If you've managed to catch the ego of this total clown, why on earth would you assume everyone else is acting the same way? I honestly didn't even notice that he had responded. In fact, I haven't the slightest clue where he even is. Honestly, I'm too busy chasing after some geese to keep track of such things.

My apologies. It’s a bit hard to follow you all. You seem too preoccupied chasing geese to bother referencing posts from just a week ago. Personally, I don't have the energy to dig through threads to see what's responding to what, especially since the moderator deletes half of everything anyway.
So:
I'm not sure what "clown complex" you think I have, because I don't know any clowns. And as for what kind of attitude you all picked up, I wouldn't know either, since everyone here treats each other so strangely.
As for chasing geese? Maybe goats would be a better choice.
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active MemberOP
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#122 ·
Austin Hayes66 said:Of course not... don't let some amateur pundit get under your skin, you aren't Zeno.
Compared to that goose, you're basically Zeno, yeah... 👍👍
And since he's just a bottle to you, stop trying to have a conversation with a damn bottle... 🤣🤣

The sound even carries through the glass. I guess I'm doing you a favor by smashing the windows around you and scattering those geese that have latched onto you. That's probably why you feel free. But you aren't. Your glass, your bottle—those are your geese. 2=0.
Richard Murphy6 Richard Murphy6 Active Member
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#123 ·
Alright, here’s a little brain teaser for the group.
Is the shell and the egg one single thing, or are they separate?
And if the egg is alive, does that make the shell alive too?
Solve the riddle and you can toss all those cabbage heads out the window!😲 😎

Hey, where did Miller go—the guy with the Starbucks coffee icon?😕 😍 🙄 😛
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active MemberOP
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#124 ·
Richard Murphy6 said:Alright, here’s a little brain teaser for the group.
Is the shell and the egg one single thing, or are they separate?
And if the egg is alive, does that make the shell alive too?
Solve the riddle and you can toss all those cabbage heads out the window!😲 😎

Hey, where did Miller go—the guy with the Starbucks coffee icon?😕 😍 🙄 😛

Cabbage for the rabbit.
Egg for the sprout.
Shell for the target.
The dragon does not fly.
😬
Austin Hayes66 Austin Hayes66 Active Member
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#125 ·
Richard Murphy6 said:Alright, here’s a little brain teaser for the group.
Is the shell and the egg one single thing, or are they separate?
And if the egg is alive, does that make the shell alive too?
Solve the riddle and you can toss all those cabbage heads out the window!😲 😎

Hey, where did Miller go—the guy with the Starbucks coffee icon?😕 😍 🙄 😛

No problem! 👍
They aren't! They're totally separate! 🙂
The shells are just tiny shards of a mirror falling into an abyss called "people" who pretend to be "spiritual"...
And the yolk is pure eros! Sieg Hail Abraxas! In the latest issue, he taught Superman how to fly! 👍
Austin Hayes66 Austin Hayes66 Active Member
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#126 ·
electricdrifter68 said:But really, what can I even say to you when you clearly have all the answers already? Oops, looks like I've spilled my drink!

I mean, what else is there to say? 🙂
Austin Hayes66 Austin Hayes66 Active Member
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#127 ·
Douglas Brown4 said:The sound even carries through the glass. I guess I'm doing you a favor by smashing the windows around you and scattering those geese that have latched onto you. That's probably why you feel free. But you aren't. Your glass, your bottle—those are your geese. 2=0.

So you're some kind of leech hunter now? 🤣🤣 then why don't you try kicking your own out of the bottle first... 🤣🤣🤣
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active MemberOP
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#128 ·
Austin Hayes66 said:So you're some kind of leech hunter now? 🤣🤣 then why don't you try kicking your own out of the bottle first... 🤣🤣🤣

And who says I'm not? Are you some kind of goose inspector checking to see if the job was done right?
Every single goose from every single bottle has been cleared out. 😂
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active MemberOP
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#129 ·
Austin Hayes66 said:No problem! 👍
They aren't! They're totally separate! 🙂
The shells are just tiny shards of a mirror falling into an abyss called "people" who pretend to be "spiritual"...
And the yolk is pure eros! Sieg Hail Abraxas! In the latest issue, he taught Superman how to fly! 👍

It’s over for Abraxas. We basically tossed him into the abyss too. 😈 😈 😈
mistyfox812 mistyfox812 Regular
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#130 ·
Hannah Wilson3 said:👍 🙏

Panta Rei Ki!

👍 🙂
electricdrifter68 electricdrifter68 Member
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#131 ·
Douglas Brown4 said:The sound even carries through the glass. I guess I'm doing you a favor by smashing the windows around you and scattering those geese that have latched onto you. That's probably why you feel free. But you aren't. Your glass, your bottle—those are your geese. 2=0.

So, you're breaking the glass? To me, it looks more like you're just blowing smoke. And honestly, why are you so obsessed with his leeches? Is there some kind of personal grudge at play here, or did he just happen to strip one off of you or something?
electricdrifter68 electricdrifter68 Member
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#132 ·
Austin Hayes66 said:I mean, what else is there to say? 🙂

I truly envy you and your supposed "vast knowledge." Oh, Presvetla! Please, grant us some of that enlightenment—all of us who hold istina dear.
Lead us toward that place where the fist strikes true, where the palm opens wide, and where fingers vanish into the strength of a clenched hand.
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active MemberOP
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#133 ·
electricdrifter68 said:So, you're breaking the glass? To me, it looks more like you're just blowing smoke. And honestly, why are you so obsessed with his leeches? Is there some kind of personal grudge at play here, or did he just happen to strip one off of you or something?

I've taken down two wild ones myself. But man, if he only knew how terrible they actually tasted.
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active MemberOP
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#134 ·
electricdrifter68 said:I truly envy you and your supposed "vast knowledge." Oh, Presvetla! Please, grant us some of that enlightenment—all of us who hold istina dear.
Lead us toward that place where the fist strikes true, where the palm opens wide, and where fingers vanish into the strength of a clenched hand.

Well, when the hand opens, the fingers go into your underwear.
When you clench your fist, I guess it just means we couldn't get into the underwear, so we're just making do with what's left.
The tool of choice this time seems to be skin.
electricdrifter68 electricdrifter68 Member
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#135 ·
Douglas Brown4 said:I've taken down two wild ones myself. But man, if he only knew how terrible they actually tasted.

Simply skinning them isn't enough to get the job done, is it? Honestly, they are perfectly fine to eat—it really just comes down to whether or not you know the right way to prep them.
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active MemberOP
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#136 ·
electricdrifter68 said:Simply skinning them isn't enough to get the job done, is it? Honestly, they are perfectly fine to eat—it really just comes down to whether or not you know the right way to prep them.

You have a point there. You really need to know how to prepare them. Eating them raw probably isn't a good idea, I guess.
Austin Hayes66 Austin Hayes66 Active Member
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#137 ·
electricdrifter68 said:I truly envy you and your supposed "vast knowledge." Oh, Presvetla! Please, grant us some of that enlightenment—all of us who hold istina dear.
Lead us toward that place where the fist strikes true, where the palm opens wide, and where fingers vanish into the strength of a clenched hand.

It can be done! 👍 Here’s how:
1-nothing exists
2-nothing is nothing
3-nothing both is and isn't
4-nothing is neither being nor non-being. 👍

So, did you finally grasp the istina, Mr. Weather Forecast? 👍 Just move along then... 🤣🤣🤣👍
Austin Hayes66 Austin Hayes66 Active Member
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#138 ·
Douglas Brown4 said:You have a point there. You really need to know how to prepare them. Eating them raw probably isn't a good idea, I guess.

So what's the plan, chase them down, toss them out a window, then cook them and dig in?
What kind of amateur fisherman would even try that... Humpty Dumpty!! 😂😂🤣🤣🤣

*this is a nod to some old fishing jokes 😍
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active MemberOP
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#139 ·
Austin Hayes66 said:So what's the plan, chase them down, toss them out a window, then cook them and dig in?
What kind of amateur fisherman would even try that... Humpty Dumpty!! 😂😂🤣🤣🤣

*this is a nod to some old fishing jokes 😍

I still have those threats you made after you lost your precious goose. 😂
It’s all just nonsense, really. You seem to take pride in things anyone can do, and frankly, most people do them better than you. I don't even care, yet somehow I still manage to mess up your plans accidentally. And listen. If I actually showed you my private inbox, I bet you'd be sulking for years.

As for running away: well, if only they actually ran. They wouldn't break any windows. But no. It looks like I'll actually have to roast and eat them. They aren't good for anything else. At least not according to Ana muškarac and Lucy police.
Hannah Wilson3 Hannah Wilson3 Member
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#140 ·
mistyfox812 said:👍 🙂


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