Are Indians lazy?

So, does anyone actually get what’s going on with the Indian mindset, or is it just some glitchy software running in their heads?

I mean, you can find a solid worker anywhere—up in the Appalachian Mountains, over in India, down in Egypt, here in the USA, even parts of Africa—but finding one in India feels like hitting a brick wall every single time.

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed this?

So, what was your reasoning for hiring staff in India?

Emily Taylor3 said:Alright, does anyone actually get what's going on with the Indian mentality—is it just how they're wired, or is it some kind of hardwired software issue in their heads?

You can find a solid worker anywhere—the Appalachian Mountains, India, Egypt, the USA, even parts of Africa—but finding one in India feels like an uphill battle.

Anyone else noticed this, or am I just imagining things?

Yeah, well, that’s exactly why most global corporations are planning to move their operations over to India...
And honestly, it's because they're lazy—sure, the labor is cheap, but what good is that if they don't actually want to put in the work?

They aren't lazy—I've seen it firsthand... I know a few engineers who are grinding harder than anyone... mostly because they realize they have to work twice as hard if they ever want to make it into the European Union.

It’s not even that they don't want to put in the work. They’re doing more than ever, really, but it’s all through these weird loopholes. The quality? It’s almost always bottom-of-the-barrel. Sometimes it’s honestly embarrassing how bad it is.

I’ve started to get the feeling that India is just all hype and no substance—lots of noise, but not much actual value.

Maybe India was the first mover in the game, sure, but looking at the competition today, there are plenty of other countries where you can actually get high-quality outsourcing done without the headache.

Prejudices,
Indian workers are incredibly hardworking and dedicated, not to mention the Chinese, though you can't say that about the Canadians or Romanians with college degrees—they aren't lagging behind one bit. Total workaholics... and honestly? They're dangerous competition.

Jonathan Morales79 said:Prejudices aside,
Indians are incredibly hardworking and dedicated, and don't even get me started on the Chinese—though you've got plenty of educated Canadians and Romanians who can hold their own too. They're absolute workaholics and cutthroat competition.

Hold up, I wasn't claiming to be 100% right here. I’m just saying that's the vibe I've picked up, and I'm throwing it out there to see what everyone else thinks.

And yeah, I'm with you on the Romanians and the Chinese. Haven't really dealt with many Canadians, but honestly? Indians just give me this feeling like they're from another planet entirely—like they're constantly stuck in some deep meditation loop or something. 🙄

Jonathan Morales79 said:Stereotypes aside,
Indians are incredibly hardworking and dedicated—not to mention the Chinese—though you can't overlook the educated professionals from Canada and Romania either. They’re absolute workaholics and honestly, pretty intimidating competition.

And that’s really the crux of it... they realized being a smaller nation means their only real shot at competing globally is to pack as many specialists into the workforce as possible...

If only we’d actually follow that blueprint... instead of sitting here with a mere 7% college graduation rate...
Education is basically our only way to stay relevant...

Adam Collins4 said:That’s precisely the point... they realized they’re just a small player on the global stage, and their only real shot at staying competitive is to pack their ranks with as many specialists as possible...

And if we actually started heading down that path... instead of sitting here with only 7% of our workforce holding advanced degrees...
Education is quite literally our only lifeline if we ever want to break through...

I intentionally left Jews out of my previous post. I was honestly waiting to see if anyone would catch that "oversight." When it comes to sensitive organizational design, teamwork, fairness, and genuine cooperation... my experience working with Jews has been nothing short of the absolute best. Intelligence, deep expertise, dedication, and most importantly—what really matters—they actually step up to help their colleagues. 🙏

Adam Collins4 said:That’s exactly the point... they realized they're just a small player on the world stage, so their only real shot at competing is to pack the ranks with as many specialists as possible...

Who on earth is calling India a small 🤣
Look, I think there are all kinds of different people in India, just like anywhere else in the world.
I don't know enough of them personally to sit here and judge the entire population of India based on a few faces.

dustywalker12 said:Who actually claims that India is some tiny 🤣
little place? I'm pretty sure there's as much variety in India as there is anywhere else on the planet
I don't know nearly enough people there to make sweeping generalizations about the whole country

Look, I was talking specifically about Romanians and Canadians... and compared to the other nations in the European Union, they're definitely on the smaller side...

Adam Collins4 said:That’s exactly the point... they realized being a small player means their only shot at competing is to stack the deck with specialists...

And even if we actually tried going down that road... instead of sitting here with barely 7% of people holding advanced degrees...
Education is basically our only Hail Mary if we want to actually make a dent...

But honestly, why is it that Jews focus so much on education?

Is it just a cultural thing—in the big picture sense—and if so, what’s the secret sauce? What are they getting out of their upbringing and mindset that makes them see the value in grinding and learning, rather than just leaning into laziness, sipping coffee all day, and whining about how life dealt them a bad hand? 😬 .

It’s pretty obvious Americans need to upgrade their software 😁 , though even the Jewish model isn't perfect; people tend to idolize it mostly because everyone else is doing such a terrible job. 🙄

If you really wanted to pick a group to call lazy and completely unmotivated, you'd probably point toward certain people in the region... though even then, it’s not everyone... just most of them.😬

All I know for sure is that Indians are running the show in Kenya.

They’ve even managed to "conquer" the white population.

And they are absolutely ruthless; local Black residents say these killers treat white masters like nothing more than little kittens.

Indians aren't lazy when they work for themselves. A huge portion of successful entrepreneurs in East Africa and the Middle East are Indian. This hasn't changed in a century.

It isn't a coincidence that major tech giants—from Microsoft to others—move their operations to India.

In my opinion, it comes down to an entrepreneurial mindset within certain classes, combined with the fact that almost everyone literate speaks English while remaining cost-effective.

I watched a segment on TV about an English telemarketing firm operating out of India. They call potential customers in England (!) to sell them whatever. It is cheaper to pay for long-distance calls than to hire Americans for the job.

Emily Taylor3 said:But the real question is—why do Jews actually pursue education?

Is it just a cultural difference—in the broadest sense—and if so, what is it? What are they getting out of their upbringing and mindset that makes them recognize the need for hard work and actual schooling—you know, doing something tangible—instead of that urge to just sit around, drink coffee all day, and whine about how unfair life is? 😬 .

It’s pretty obvious Americans could use a serious software upgrade 😁 , though even the Jewish model isn't perfect; people tend to idealize them mostly because everyone else is such a disaster. 🙄

I don't really know about the whole Jewish thing... but having lived in Switzerland since I was born—and still living here—I definitely have more of that mindset than the "typical" American...

Out here, working and going to school feels like a moral obligation... as weird as that might sound...

You don't just live with your parents until, I don't know, some arbitrary age or until you finish a seven-year degree... sure, it happens, but it's definitely not the norm...

It’s especially unacceptable in places like Benelux or the Scandinavian countries...
And over there, Protestantism as a faith actually has quite an impact on that way of thinking... sounds strange, I know, but it's true...

It's not entirely about the material stuff or just making a buck...

Jonathan Morales79 said:Prejudices aside,
Indians are incredibly hardworking and dedicated, not to mention the Chinese, though highly educated Canadians and Romanians are just as impressive. They are absolute workaholics and fierce competition.

Just how many Indians have you actually worked with so far?

James Doyle24 said:I don't think Indians are anything but incredibly driven when they're working for themselves. A huge chunk of the successful entrepreneurs across East Africa and the Middle East are Indian—and honestly, it’s been that way for the last century.

It’s hardly a coincidence that the massive software giants are moving their operations over to India—everything from Microsoft and the rest of them.

IMHO, it boils down to an entrepreneurial mindset (among the upper castes), plus there's the fact that almost everyone literate speaks English, all while labor remains dirt cheap.

I was watching this thing on TV about how an English telemarketing firm operates out of India. They’re making calls to potential customers in England (!) selling them just about anything. It's actually cheaper for them to pay for long-distance calls than it is to hire actual Englishmen for the job.

Well, obviously... an hour of labor in India is significantly cheaper.
My company is actually opening an office in India right now because we figured out it’s more cost-effective to pay a trained Indian professional than to hire engineers here in Switzerland.

You can judge their work ethic and skill level by asking an employer if they’d actually be willing to pay an Indian engineer the same rate as an American one. If their talent truly matched or exceeded that of Western engineers, why wouldn't companies just pay them equally?

Indians are amateurs. Honestly, I'd rather deal with anything else. First, they lure you in with those flashy marketing gimmicks, and by the time you realize you've been played, the damage is already done. You need to shield yourself with every legal loophole and contract possible, because once the trap snaps shut, there’s no turning back. By the time you figure out they sold you a beat-up Ford when you thought you were buying a Mercedes, it's far too late.

swiftscout8 said:Indian companies can be total amateurs. Honestly, you have to watch your back with them. First, they reel you in with all this slick marketing nonsense, and by the time you realize you've been played, the damage is already done... You really need to cover yourself with every legal safeguard and contract imaginable, otherwise, there's no coming back. Once you realize they sold you a beat-up old Ford when you thought you were getting a Mercedes, it's game over.

That also says a lot about the corporate legal teams who managed to let these Indian outfits outmaneuver them...

It just goes to show how much negligence and sloppiness is actually out there...