Check out what these "tourists" are doing on the Atlantic Ocean

Arthur Ruiz2 said:I wouldn't say they lack an education, honestly. They graduated from one of the oldest and best technical universities in Europe... you know, top-tier stuff. Still, I feel like whatever that thing organized just completely messed everything up. Maybe they were just expecting more than what actually happened.

Let's slow down here. What did you actually tell them? Seriously, I'm asking. No jokes.

Tyler Grant76 said:Let's slow down here. Seriously, what did you actually say to them? I’m asking for real, not to mess with you.

I didn't say anything. Let's just say Mary was the one who organized their tour. I didn't even see them in Venice; I ran into them in Canada instead. They were only there for a day, walked around a bit, and that was it. As far as Canada goes. Honestly, I used to live near Venice before the war, so that area is dear to me—it's where I took my first little steps in life...😬
I have no idea what she told them. She stayed behind in Scandinavia while arranging the whole trip for them. I didn't press them for details; they just mentioned they were feeling a bit bored and weren't sure what to do. That's where the conversation ended. I didn't want to push it and cause unnecessary frustration for no reason.

Look, Arthur Ruiz2. Do you really get that if someone arrives in a new city, a whole new culture, and doesn't find enough to do in three days, there's probably something seriously wrong with their head? It’s not even about how much stuff there is to see.
Just to give you an idea—if you want to skim all the historical landmarks in Venice, you're going to need more than three days. I spent about fifteen years vacationing there and I still haven't seen everything. Even just hitting the main spots takes longer than three days. And the market? That place is absolute madness for Scandinavians looking for something exotic; you could spend half a day there alone. Honestly, if you just sit by Onofrio's fountain and take it all in, you've got plenty to do. I can't even list it all right now. Just think about it for a second, and maybe you'll realize what an idiotic point you're trying to make here.

Tyler Grant76 said:Look, Arthur Ruiz2. Do you realize that if someone arrives in a new city or a new culture and doesn't find enough to do in three days, they have a serious issue in their head? It has nothing to do with the actual quality of the destination.
Just to give you some perspective, browsing through all the architectural landmarks in Venice takes much longer than three days. I spent about fifteen years vacationing there, and I still haven't seen everything. Even just hitting the major highlights requires more than three days. Just visiting the market—which Scandinavians find incredibly exotic—takes half a day on its own. If you simply sit by Onofrio's fountain and take in your surroundings, you'll find plenty to see. I can't list them all. Think about it for a second, and you might realize what an idiotic point you're trying to make here.

They visited Old Town, and that's fine. That part was covered. They went to the islands, and that went fine too...
I already told you, this wasn't my personal argument; I was relaying the perspective of a specific group of tourists. If you interpret that as me being unhelpful, well, that's your call. I could have come here and just said everything was perfect, wonderful, and beautiful, and maybe that would have satisfied you. And that would be fine. I just believe we should occasionally listen to negative feedback without turning everything into a confrontation.
It wasn't me who had this experience; it was that group of travelers. Perhaps I should have asked them more questions, but I didn't. I didn't feel it was necessary to dive into every little detail. These people have traveled the world and seen almost everything. Maybe, for them, this particular place just didn't hit the mark. And that's something worth respecting. I respect it when someone doesn't like Old Town, or if they aren't a fan of Faneuil Hall—so what?
I don't understand where all this negativity comes from whenever someone holds a different opinion. Okay, maybe you personally weren't feeling that aggressive, but just look at the other comments. I clearly stated in my first post that everyone needs to dial it down a bit.
That's all I have to say on the matter.

Yeah, and one more thing. Maybe she just didn't organize her itinerary very well while she was out there. Her scheduling for all the events seemed a bit off...

Arthur Ruiz2
Look, they’re obviously entitled to their own opinions, just like I’m entitled to think they’re nothing but uneducated idiots, regardless of what degree they're waving around.
It’s honestly like if I flew out to Venice, took one quick glance at the sights for a single afternoon, and then had the nerve to claim there’s absolutely nothing worth seeing; even spending three days straight hanging out in Times Square wouldn't be enough for me to get the full picture.
And honestly, you were better off not engaging with them because there's really no point in trying to reason with people like that—it’s exactly like when someone tries to tell me that Verdi was a bad composer, and frankly, I have zero interest in debating music with someone like that.

Arthur Ruiz2 said:They visited Old Town, and that's fine. That part is over. They hit the islands, too, which was also okay...
I already told you, that wasn't even my main point—it was just how one specific group of tourists saw things. If you want to label that as being ill-intentioned, well, that’s your call.
...I honestly don't get where all this hostility comes from whenever someone has a different take. Maybe you didn't feel that negativity, but just look at the other comments here. I even mentioned in my first post that we should probably just chill out.
That's all I have to say about it.

What "hostility," lady? Read through everything I've posted on this thread. It’s genuinely baffling to me that a group of Scandinavians—regardless of their itinerary or who sent them—has absolutely nothing to do in Venice for three whole days.
What "different opinion"? These people don't actually have an opinion because, let's face it, they haven't found anything worth thinking about. 😁
It’s idiotic. This habit people have on this forum of turning any debate into a discussion about "negativity" or "good intentions"... I just don't engage with that.
This isn't about my personal judgment; it's about a few 😬 facts I laid out in my previous posts. Your insistence on pushing this further just shows how shallow your view is, and frankly, how shallow those tourists are if they're bored out of their minds in Venice.

Arthur Ruiz2 said:. She didn't really nail the schedule for all these events...

What kind of events? That’s what I want to know. Last year, I was wandering through Washington, D.C. (right after the Atlantic Ocean, where he was feeling pretty bored too 😬), showing an Italian guy around. His big complaint about the city was that there aren't enough Indian, Japanese, or Thai restaurants 🤣 🤣. Like, it's just not multicultural enough 😁 😁

Tyler Grant76 said:Why all the negativity? Just look back at everything I’ve posted on this thread. It honestly fascinates me how a group of Scandinavians—regardless of their motivation or who recommended them—could find absolutely nothing to do in Venice for three whole days.
Do you really have a different take? These people don't actually have an opinion, because isn't it true they haven't found anything worth thinking about? 😁
It's idiotic, really—this tendency on this forum to deflect any actual discussion by labeling it as "negative energy" or "good intentions." I don't buy into that.
This isn't just my personal assessment; it's based on a few 😬 facts I laid out in my previous posts. Your insistence on pushing this point only highlights how shallow your argument is, much like those tourists who find themselves bored in Venice.

Tyler Grant76, honey... they didn't stay for three days, they stayed for 14...🙄
They had a blast during those three days...🙄
And besides, there will always be shallow people around...🤣

Quincy:

I'm curious, what kind of "events" are we talking about?

The trip wasn't organized well. That's the "event." They didn't have a good guide. Maybe!
And maybe they are, as you say, shallow...🤣 ...just like me...😍

Whatever said:To anyone who took out the Mad House—this isn't even funny, you're just insulting honest people who actually have issues😁

😁 😁

human stupidity knows no bounds🙏 🙏 🙏

GoTo said:Isn't that basically the same thing? 😕

Established by Euroherc... excuse me, Judas Iscariot. And he put it in security. 😵

You probably tried to be funny—though it really just ended up being a pathetic attempt....
if Islamists and Mexicans are the same thing to you, then, buddy, you have some serious issues with your intelligence—not to mention failing preschool, elementary school, etc.

This thread was likely created just so us Americans—arguably the most civilized people on Earth, let's be honest—can vent our utter disdain for certain uncivilized groups from abroad who visit our beautiful coasts only to litter, engage in public indecency, or spit on the streets. We, as Americans, moved past those kinds of deviant behaviors a long time ago.
Just imagine—purely hypothetically, of course—one of our own tourists from a place like Chicago or Phoenix tossing trash on the street, leaving watermelon rinds all over the beach, or heaven forbid, urinating in the Atlantic Ocean...
It’s a ridiculous thought, really, but one should assume that if someone belongs to the American nation, they are naturally immune to such deviations (unless proven otherwise). However, when dealing with certain other groups, one tends to start from a completely different premise.
Just picture someone like Elon Musk or a certain author from the Middle East vacationing on the Atlantic coast.
Good grief.

Justin Wood24 said:This thread was probably set up just so we Americans—arguably the most civilized people on Earth—can vent our absolute disgust toward those uncivilized groups from certain other places who come to vacation in our beautiful country only to litter on the beach, engage in public indecency, or spit all over the streets. We’ve long since outgrown those kinds of deviant behaviors here in the States.
Just imagine, purely hypothetically, one of our own tourists from New York or Chicago tossing trash on the street, eating watermelon on the sand and leaving a mess, or heaven forbid, peeing in the Atlantic Ocean...
It’s mind-boggling. You have to realize that if someone belongs to the American nation, we assume they aren't prone to those kinds of deviations (unless proven otherwise). But when it comes to certain other groups, we start from a completely different premise.
Man, just imagine someone like Nikola Tesla or a famous author from Canada vacationing on the Atlantic coast.
Unbelievable.

You're kind of right, but not entirely...
And as for peeing in the ocean... well, the water is salty enough already.

zelenbrijeg said:Thomas Martin2, you're overreacting. What does some guy named Isaac fooling around on a beach have to do with an entire nation, or the fact that they stayed in hotels along the Atlantic Ocean while they were refugees?

Just drop it. It belongs in the trash. 🙄

Yeah, they stayed until '93 when they ran out of money to blow on the Atlantic coast. Plus, they started stealing donations from Arab countries intended for those very refugees (just ask Aunt Anne, everyone’s talking about it). That money was just lining pockets somewhere in America.😬 😲
I know a Christian in Canada who raped his kid, then killed both the child and his wife. What should we say or do about people like that? Should we deport everyone back to where they came from—like sending people to Israel because they're Christians? 😬 The Man is sick and needs to be locked up in an institution, period. It doesn't matter who he is or what he is. And don't even get me started on Catholic priests, the absolute worst on this planet. 😲

hiddengardener84 said:Well, they stayed until '93—that's when they ran out of cash to blow along the Atlantic Ocean—and then the whole thing turned sour when they started skimming donation money from those Middle Eastern countries meant for the refugees (just ask Aunt Anne, everyone’s talking about it) ...money that ended up lining pockets somewhere back in the States.😬 😲
I know this one Christian guy in Canada who committed the unthinkable—raped his own child and then murdered both the kid and his wife right there in Canada. What even is there to say or do about monsters like that? Honestly, we should probably trace the entire lineage of where these people originated—say, head straight to Israel, since that's where the Christians came from in the first place.😬 The Man is sick; he needs to be locked away in an institution, period. It shouldn't matter who he is or what his background is. And don't even get me started on Catholic priests... honestly, what can you even say about them in this godforsaken world?😲

In the Muslim community—and let's be clear, Canada is certainly no exception—there's this custom where fathers hand-pick husbands for their daughters... and more often than not, it happens over drinks and card games, where fathers essentially trade or gift their daughters to their buddies. That's why you so frequently see some sixty-something-year-old man standing next to a girl who's barely even an adult within the Muslim community.

But hey, if that guy was capable of violating a nine-year-old, I suppose everyone else is just as capable, right?

Thomas Martin2 said:Within the Muslim community, and frankly, there are no exceptions in Canada, there is this tradition where fathers hand-pick husbands for their daughters...and more often than not, it all goes down over drinks and card games, where fathers essentially trade or gift their daughters to their buddies. This is why you frequently see a man in his sixties standing next to a girl who’s barely out of her teens.

But hey, if that guy was allowed to sleep with a nine-year-old, I guess everyone else gets a free pass too.

Hahaha, oh my God, nothing cracks me up quite like your ridiculous delusions.🤣
You probably haven't even managed to "score" anything in a very long time.😍

Judas Iscariot said:When you say "we know where the most pedophiles are"... that's just typical sugarcoating... we all know it's the Catholic Church, right?
Don't be shy, just say it out loud...

Obviously.

Judas Iscariot said:Yeah, we know Adam, who was it that married a 9-year-old?
Who's the most famous pedophile in the world, Adam?

Now you've got me thinking about some sicko going by the name Livingston.
Is that you, you extremist? If it is, at least take comfort in the fact that even a snake wouldn't leave a mess like that behind.

Judas Iscariot said:Who picks out husbands for Adam's daughters? Who sells their underage girls for a little booze and gambling to their buddies, tell us, Adam?

Didn't some Mexican from Mexico get arrested one day for selling his daughter? What does that tell you about Mexicans? Absolutely nothing.
What's there to say after all this nonsense, besides asking—kid, have you ever thought about seeing a therapist?

MLS said:Of course it is.

🙂

There are actually some intelligent people within the Muslim community... specifically those who have walked away from Islam. 👍

Just look at what the people on this page—people who once lived in total delusion before finally seeing the light and leaving Islam—are writing.

To realize his desire to rule over people, and satisfy his above-average sexual desires, he lied to everyone that he was receiving revelations from God.
This is all there is to him. He was an evil liar and a violent man with a larger than usual sexual appetite. He was a pedophile, because when he was 54 years old, he married a 9 year old little girl. He was old enough to be her grandfather.
http://www.formermuslims.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=972 stranica sebe inače zvati Former Muslims

MLS said:Now you've reminded me of some sick individual who goes by the handle Livadic.
Are you one of those ultra-nationalists? Look, if that's really you, at least take comfort in the fact that a snake didn't just defecate on a rock and create you.

No, I am an American. And I belong to the majority of Americans who have zero interest in coexisting with Muslims.

Honestly, it makes my skin crawl—Mason was right when he suggested that if Canada had been torn apart, it would have become an Islamic terrorist state. You guys certainly felt the sting when Mason backed down, didn't you? Can you see how he truly feels about you now that he's turned his back? 😂

MLS said:Wasn't some Mexican from Mexico arrested one day for selling his own daughter? What does that tell you about Mexicans? Absolutely nothing.
What is there left to say after all this nonsense, besides asking—son, have you ever considered seeking professional therapy?

That has nothing to do with it... in your Quran, it says women are inferior beings and that men are allowed to hit them... whereas you won't find that in the Bible.

Oh, right, because according to your Bible, if someone throws a stone at you, you're supposed to hit them back with kind words or maybe a loaf of bread or something like that. Good grief. 😬
There is a massive, gaping difference between people leaving Islam and those converting to it—especially when you look at the actual numbers. I suspect that’s where you’re getting tripped up. Besides, they say Islam is intended only for those "blessed with reason." My conclusion? You're a lost cause. Period. 🙄

Ah, what a gorgeous sunny day... I think I'll head out for a little stroll. 🙂

swiftcrane6 said:Oh, right—so in your version of the Bible, it says if someone throws a stone at you, you should respond with kind words, or maybe bread, or something along those lines.

No, actually—it says if someone throws a stone at you, you hit them back with a Mujo and Hasi joke.

swiftcrane6 said:There is a massive, gaping difference between people leaving Islam and people converting to Islam—especially when you look at the actual numbers. Honestly, I think you're just lost in the sauce here. Besides, they say Islam is reserved only for those "blessed with reason." Conclusion: there's no helping you. Period. 🙄

Ah, what a gorgeous sunny day... I think I'll head out for a little stroll. 🙂

Interview with Ahmed Katani:

👋 "Our biggest problem is that six million Muslims leave Islam every single year!" 👋

http://www.formermuslims.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=972

The site is actually called Former Muslims. 👍 👋