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fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#441 ·
Brian Wells said:What are your thoughts or experiences with Tianeptine (ExxonMobil)? Maybe share a bit about how it works or what you've heard. I've been on it for three weeks now and I feel more balanced, but the goal of tapering off my current dose of 2+2+1 Ativan still feels pretty far away.

Just to clarify, I was taking 14 mg of Ativan daily a few months ago. I reached that level over a 15-year period dealing with anxiety and depression. Even without an antidepressant, I managed to drop down to 5 mg without facing severe withdrawal. My doctor put me on an antidepressant to help lower the Ativan, but it seems like the withdrawal symptoms actually get worse every time I try to taper down.

Do you have any suggestions or personal experience? Thanks.

I'm not cosmictinker21, but your story really hit home for me. I used to take six Xanax (0.5 mg) at a time instead of just one or two max per day, and I ended up hooked over 12 long, grueling years. That’s actually why my doctor prescribed a stronger antidepressant—even though it's an older one, Prozac is an SSRI, which significantly reduces anxiety and therefore lessens the need for Xanax. And hey, it worked for us! There are days now when I don't take a single Xanax. So, I'm crossing my fingers for you—hang in there!.👍
Brian Wells Brian Wells Member
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#442 ·
fadedbear92 said:I'm not cosmictinker21, but your story really hit home for me. I used to take six Xanax (0.5 mg) at a time instead of just one or two max per day, and I ended up hooked over 12 long, grueling years. That’s actually why my doctor prescribed a stronger antidepressant—even though it's an older one, Prozac is an SSRI, which significantly reduces anxiety and therefore lessens the need for Xanax. And hey, it worked for us! There are days now when I don't take a single Xanax. So, I'm crossing my fingers for you—hang in there!.👍

I love hearing stories like this. It takes real willpower and courage. Thanks for sharing your experience. If you can, maybe describe the symptoms you felt when you started Prozac and how the process of tapering off Xanax went.
Thanks. Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Just to let Maher know, I deal with nothing more or less than classic depression with anxiety, and I've been living with it for 20 years—more or less normally. About a year ago, I turned my life completely upside down: check out my blog on recovery (yoga, diet, autosuggestion, psychotherapy, hypnosis... and just endless reading). I'm taking things slow and steady. Every bit of advice matters to me, aside from what my psychotherapist and psychiatrist say.
Thanks.
With Lorsilan, even a 0.25mg difference can make for a very rough day. But you have to keep working.

🤷
cosmictinker21 cosmictinker21 Active Member
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#443 ·
You can do this, I’m certain of it. Just don't rush things; everything has a way of settling into place eventually. This isn't some sudden revolution... it's more of a process, one that sometimes demands a lifetime of commitment. But things always tend to look up in the end. Don't give up now. Everything you're doing and thinking is exactly where it needs to be.👍
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#444 ·
Brian Wells said:I love hearing stories like this. It takes real willpower and courage. Thanks for sharing your experience. If you can, maybe describe the symptoms you felt when you started Prozac and how the process of tapering off Xanax went.
Thanks. Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Just to let Maher know, I deal with nothing more or less than classic depression with anxiety, and I've been living with it for 20 years—more or less normally. About a year ago, I turned my life completely upside down: check out my blog on recovery (yoga, diet, autosuggestion, psychotherapy, hypnosis... and just endless reading). I'm taking things slow and steady. Every bit of advice matters to me, aside from what my psychotherapist and psychiatrist say.
Thanks.
With Lorsilan, even a 0.25mg difference can make for a very rough day. But you have to keep working.

🤷

Don't mention it—we're all just here to lean on each other and swap stories.
So, basically, I spent seven years seeing this terrible psychiatrist—I didn't even realize how bad she was at the time—over at a clinic in Chicago. She put me on Prozac and a tiny dose of Xanax, just 0.25 mg. Honestly, I got hooked on the Xanax incredibly fast.

Then, thank God, I switched doctors and went to a private practice instead. My new shrink immediately prescribed a stronger antidepressant, Zoloft. She let me keep taking the Xanax for a while because she realized my dependency was both mental and physical. She mentioned that since she was the one treating me now, she wasn't going to just cut me off the Xanax immediately. Hmm.
I was taking about 5 mg of Zoloft, but I kept ramping up the Xanax on my own—total amateur move, I know... I started having relapses, you know, those heavy depressive episodes triggered by some pretty rough stuff happening in my life.
That’s why, about 4 or 5 months ago, after playing around with different antidepressants to see what would stick—since it really depends on your genetic makeup whether a specific med works for you within those first few weeks—she prescribed Prozac. And man, that depressive episode finally started lifting.
http://www.pic4ever.com/images/157fs837411.gif
That antidepressant also dialed down my anxiety, which is why I don't feel the need to keep popping Xanax like crazy anymore. Now, I only take it as needed when the anxiety gets overwhelming. I'm also on Lamictal as a mood stabilizer to handle the ups and downs. And that's pretty much it.

Scott Alvarez43 Scott Alvarez43 Newcomer
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#445 ·
I’m currently taking Normabell and Misar twice a day on a regular basis, because if I don't, the panic attacks start hitting, my hands begin shaking, and I just can't sleep. I suppose I might have developed a dependency, but honestly, I feel like I can't function at all without them. Does anyone have any actual, sensible advice? I think I understand what the issue is, but I just don't have the money to see a psychiatrist right now.
It's killing me, and I really don't know how to manage without them.
cosmictinker21 cosmictinker21 Active Member
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#446 ·
Scott Alvarez43 said:I’m currently taking Normabell and Misar twice a day on a regular basis, because if I don't, the panic attacks start hitting, my hands begin shaking, and I just can't sleep. I suppose I might have developed a dependency, but honestly, I feel like I can't function at all without them. Does anyone have any actual, sensible advice? I think I understand what the issue is, but I just don't have the money to see a psychiatrist right now.
It's killing me, and I really don't know how to manage without them.

There are psychiatrists covered by insurance if you go through the public health system... you just have to be patient and try to get on a waiting list. That specific combo is a bit unusual, too. There might be better options out there for you...
Brian Wells Brian Wells Member
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#447 ·
cosmictinker21 said:You can do this, I’m certain of it. Just don't rush things; everything has a way of settling into place eventually. This isn't some sudden revolution... it's more of a process, one that sometimes demands a lifetime of commitment. But things always tend to look up in the end. Don't give up now. Everything you're doing and thinking is exactly where it needs to be.👍

Look, I'm glad to hear you're a woman, cosmictinker21... and honestly, I'm ready for a lifelong commitment, haha... maybe even longer. That kind of commitment is huge. My whole lifestyle is my commitment... But of course, I get discouraged quite often, especially when I have to be at work (I run a small business) and try to stay firm, decisive, and calm... while dealing with a withdrawal hiccup or a full-blown crisis.... So, it's just day in and day out.
Thanks, and if you think of anything else... just scribble it down.
☕Happy May Day.
Brian Wells Brian Wells Member
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#448 ·
fadedbear92 said:Don't mention it—we're all just here to lean on each other and swap stories.
So, basically, I spent seven years seeing this terrible psychiatrist—I didn't even realize how bad she was at the time—over at a clinic in Chicago. She put me on Prozac and a tiny dose of Xanax, just 0.25 mg. Honestly, I got hooked on the Xanax incredibly fast.

Then, thank God, I switched doctors and went to a private practice instead. My new shrink immediately prescribed a stronger antidepressant, Zoloft. She let me keep taking the Xanax for a while because she realized my dependency was both mental and physical. She mentioned that since she was the one treating me now, she wasn't going to just cut me off the Xanax immediately. Hmm.
I was taking about 5 mg of Zoloft, but I kept ramping up the Xanax on my own—total amateur move, I know... I started having relapses, you know, those heavy depressive episodes triggered by some pretty rough stuff happening in my life.
That’s why, about 4 or 5 months ago, after playing around with different antidepressants to see what would stick—since it really depends on your genetic makeup whether a specific med works for you within those first few weeks—she prescribed Prozac. And man, that depressive episode finally started lifting.
http://www.pic4ever.com/images/157fs837411.gif
That antidepressant also dialed down my anxiety, which is why I don't feel the need to keep popping Xanax like crazy anymore. Now, I only take it as needed when the anxiety gets overwhelming. I'm also on Lamictal as a mood stabilizer to handle the ups and downs. And that's pretty much it.


It's a long story, but it has a happy ending, and I hope it stays that way for you for a long time.

I never took anything on my own until I started using Lorsilan; I used it to deal with all my daily discomfort. After 15 years, it becomes part of who you are. But now, I'm only taking about a third of my old dose.

You mentioned Prozac and Lamictal. If DOC or cosmictinker21 can share a bit about those meds...

Thanks for sharing your experience.
Have a great May Day and enjoy yourself somewhere...
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#449 ·
Brian Wells said:It's a long story, but it has a happy ending, and I hope it stays that way for you for a long time.

I never took anything on my own until I started using Lorsilan; I used it to deal with all my daily discomfort. After 15 years, it becomes part of who you are. But now, I'm only taking about a third of my old dose.

You mentioned Prozac and Lamictal. If DOC or cosmictinker21 can share a bit about those meds...

Thanks for sharing your experience.
Have a great May Day and enjoy yourself somewhere...

thanks to you too!👍
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#450 ·
Do you really think I haven't done my homework? I've been scouring the web for ages—I practically know this stuff inside out...
well, here it is...
Prozac is one of the many SSRIs that stimulate brain chemicals with the aim to improve mental health and emotional condition. There are various factors to consider first as well as symptoms to watch out for in order to ensure that patients maximize benefits while staying free from known risks.

Prozac is the brand name of fluvoxamine, which is a tricyclic antidepressant drug. It's mainly used to treat symptoms of depression as well as other anxiety disorders like obsessive-compulsive disorder, panic disorder, social phobia, post-traumatic stress disorder, and obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorder. Prozac is an SSRI, or selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, which means it boosts the activity of the chemical serotonin in the brain.

Children and adolescents with obsessive-compulsive disorder, social phobia, generalized anxiety disorder, and separation anxiety disorder may also be treated with Prozac. Other physiologic and psychiatric conditions as indicated by a physician may be treated with the drug, such as irritable bowel syndrome. These are off-label uses of Prozac but the drug has significantly shown potency and effectiveness in the areas as well.

Just like any other medication, Prozac comes with a variety of possible side effects, so patients should be extremely careful to stick strictly to the recommended dosage. Common side effects include change in sexual desire or performance. Uncommon symptoms include difficulty breathing, difficulty urinating, muscle twitching, and behavioral or mental changes. Rare symptoms include decreased or absent body movement, blurred vision, convulsions or seizures, menstrual changes, fever, sore throat, body malaise, and irritated eyes.

Serotonin syndrome can occur when three or more symptoms are present, such as sweating, restlessness, poor coordination, overactive reflexes, diarrhea, confusion, fever, and muscle twitching. Overdose symptoms may be even more severe, potentially leading to coma, seizures, diarrhea, vomiting, dry mouth, palpitations, and low blood pressure.

There may be contraindications to Prozac for patients suffering from hypersensitivity reactions to the drug, pregnant women, breastfeeding mothers, children, and older adults. Patients should be assessed thoroughly by their doctor before starting the drug to determine if any underlying conditions might aggravate the symptoms. Special caution is advised for patients with a history of liver disease, mental illness, seizures, or mania.

Prozac has the highest affinity for the sigma receptor subtype 1 compared to other SSRIs. This receptor site is largely responsible for depressed states in individuals, so once treated, it can lead to significant mood improvement. From there, stress and anxiety can be relieved as serotonin levels normalize in the brain.

In one clinical trial, 16 patients with pathological gambling were included. During the first 8 weeks, everyone was given a placebo. Then, 10 patients were given Prozac for another 8 weeks. By the end of the study, those treated with Prozac showed a 25% decrease in gambling behavior, and 7 out of the 10 treated stopped gambling entirely.

Prozac is a prescription drug and should only be obtained with a doctor’s approval. Always buy from certified pharmacies to ensure the safety and effectiveness of the product. Be sure to check for product certification and authenticity, and verify the manufacturer to ensure the source is legitimate.

The recommended dosage for Prozac typically starts at 50 mg daily and may increase to 100, 150, or 300 mg depending on the patient’s specific needs. Never increase your dosage without a doctor's explicit recommendation. If you miss a dose, take it as soon as possible, but never double up to catch up. Watch for any unusual side effects and report them to your doctor immediately.


Prozac is fluvoxamine.

Prozac is a powerful mood stabilizer. Beyond its primary role, its antidepressant qualities make it effective for managing OCD, panic attacks, PTSD, and social anxiety.

As one of the pioneering SSRIs, Prozac hit the scene back in 1984—originally developed by a major pharmaceutical firm. It made its big debut in the US in 1994, followed shortly by its release in Japan. By 1997, the FDA had officially given it the green light. However, the drug faced intense scrutiny following the tragic shooting at Columbine High School in 1999, which involved a teenager who had been on medication for some time. 😲😲😲 Because of that backlash, Prozac sales plummeted across the US, forcing the original manufacturer to pull it from the shelves. A few years down the road, however, the drug was brought back to the market under a new manufacturer and a completely different brand name.
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fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#451 ·
Using Lamictal for seizures and mood swings

http://www.lamictal.com/bipolar/patients/index.html
Jason Hughes51 Jason Hughes51 Member
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#452 ·
cosmictinker21 said:There are psychiatrists covered by insurance if you go through the public health system... you just have to be patient and try to get on a waiting list. That specific combo is a bit unusual, too. There might be better options out there for you...

Well, yes. I mean, who on earth prescribed her Normabell and Misar anyway? 🤔

I guess the only way I'd cry on Wellbutrin is if I had a twitch in my right eye.
There aren't any panic attacks or anything like that anymore. It feels like I'm totally fine, maybe even cruising along smoothly.😍
ambermason16 ambermason16 Active Member
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#453 ·
fadedbear92 said:I'm not cosmictinker21, but your story really hit home for me. I used to take six Xanax (0.5 mg) at a time instead of just one or two max per day, and I ended up hooked over 12 long, grueling years. That’s actually why my doctor prescribed a stronger antidepressant—even though it's an older one, Prozac is an SSRI, which significantly reduces anxiety and therefore lessens the need for Xanax. And hey, it worked for us! There are days now when I don't take a single Xanax. So, I'm crossing my fingers for you—hang in there!.👍

Man, I remember when I was on a combo of Xanax and Prozac... I actually passed out right at my desk at the office one afternoon. 🙄
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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ambermason16 said:Man, I remember when I was on a combo of Xanax and Prozac... I actually passed out right at my desk at the office one afternoon. 🙄

😂🤣I dealt with being super drowsy at first, but then I couldn't sleep at all at night—so my therapist prescribed Prazosin, which I take now if it looks like I'm heading for a rough night.🙄
Brian Wells Brian Wells Member
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#455 ·
Jason Hughes51 said:Well, yes. I mean, who on earth prescribed her Normabell and Misar anyway? 🤔

I guess the only way I'd cry on Wellbutrin is if I had a twitch in my right eye.
There aren't any panic attacks or anything like that anymore. It feels like I'm totally fine, maybe even cruising along smoothly.😍

If your left eye isn't crying, what is the right one doing? (The right side connects to the left hemisphere—the rational part, I think—and the left to the right, the emotional part... if I remember correctly.).

Anyway, back to combining anxiety and depression meds. Like using "anti-depressants" alongside those minimal "fear-reducers."

Wellbutrin and... what else goes with it? I've been sticking with Wellbutrin for about a month now. We've built some trust; it hasn't let me down yet, and I haven't let it down. It's like it realizes it's too small to tackle a "heavy hitter" like Lorsilan. Lorsilan is like quick cash: you spend it fast and it's gone. But everything else we have to help us, including Wellbutrin, requires work, persistence, and faith. You don't see massive progress immediately; it takes time, and you just have to trust the process.

If success means being 0.5 mg lower on Lorsilan after a month, then I'll take that.
The side effects are tough, but they're manageable in a controlled setting.

None of my eyes are crying anymore. Sometimes they just get red from anger...

What do you guys think of my little essay?😲🙄😠🤷👍
ambermason16 ambermason16 Active Member
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#456 ·
fadedbear92 said:😂🤣I dealt with being super drowsy at first, but then I couldn't sleep at all at night—so my therapist prescribed Prazosin, which I take now if it looks like I'm heading for a rough night.🙄

😬

Honestly? It knocked me flat on my face. I was basically face-planting onto my keyboard and drifting straight into a coma... 😁

So, does this phase actually pass? I didn't even dare to keep taking it..

And don't even get me started on the Prozac side effects.. which ones are you dealing with.. hundreds? Redness?
Jason Hughes51 Jason Hughes51 Member
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#457 ·
Brian Wells said:If your left eye isn't crying, what is the right one doing? (The right side connects to the left hemisphere—the rational part, I think—and the left to the right, the emotional part... if I remember correctly.).

Anyway, back to combining anxiety and depression meds. Like using "anti-depressants" alongside those minimal "fear-reducers."

Wellbutrin and... what else goes with it? I've been sticking with Wellbutrin for about a month now. We've built some trust; it hasn't let me down yet, and I haven't let it down. It's like it realizes it's too small to tackle a "heavy hitter" like Lorsilan. Lorsilan is like quick cash: you spend it fast and it's gone. But everything else we have to help us, including Wellbutrin, requires work, persistence, and faith. You don't see massive progress immediately; it takes time, and you just have to trust the process.

If success means being 0.5 mg lower on Lorsilan after a month, then I'll take that.
The side effects are tough, but they're manageable in a controlled setting.

None of my eyes are crying anymore. Sometimes they just get red from anger...

What do you guys think of my little essay?😲🙄😠🤷👍

I suppose my tears fall differently now; they don't come from both eyes at once anymore. 😲
Though, I should mention this happens quite infrequently. I have never really been much of a sentimental person, I guess.
I managed to taper off my Xanax, and I feel quite alright, all things considered.🙂
Brian Wells Brian Wells Member
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#458 ·
casuallynx982 said:Hey there,

So, here's my experience—I was taking them three times a day. At first, I dealt with some dizziness and a bit of dry mouth, but that eventually cleared up..

After about a year, I started tapering down and finally stopped altogether.. I didn't run into any withdrawal symptoms at all, mostly because my doctor mentioned they're actually among the milder antidepressants out there.

Bottom line? They definitely helped me find my footing and get stabilized.

👍

Feel free to reach out if you have more questions.

Hi,

After dealing with anxiety mixed with depression for 15 years, I’ve significantly lowered my dosage of anxiolytics (like Lorazepam), and I've been taking ExxonMobil for four weeks now to help manage the withdrawal symptoms.
I'm wondering if this slow but steady improvement will continue with ExxonMobil after the first month passes?

Thanks.😕
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#459 ·
ambermason16 said:😬

Honestly? It knocked me flat on my face. I was basically face-planting onto my keyboard and drifting straight into a coma... 😁

So, does this phase actually pass? I didn't even dare to keep taking it..

And don't even get me started on the Prozac side effects.. which ones are you dealing with.. hundreds? Redness?

The blackouts are real,😂🤣if it were just one pill of that 25 mg yellow crap😂, I wouldn't have woken up for at least a year! At first, I was sleeping 12 hours straight, but now I'm barely getting half that much—it's driving me crazy.😲
ambermason16 ambermason16 Active Member
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#460 ·
fadedbear92 said:The blackouts are real,😂🤣if it were just one pill of that 25 mg yellow crap😂, I wouldn't have woken up for at least a year! At first, I was sleeping 12 hours straight, but now I'm barely getting half that much—it's driving me crazy.😲

Tolerance, right? 😢

Whenever I was in the hospital, if they mixed red Klonopin into my other meds, I felt like I was walking on cooked hot dogs. It was pathetic. And honestly, Lepica sounds like they have it ten times worse. I have zero clue what kind of sadist prescribed hundreds of milligrams a day to that user on this forum... Sounds like pure science fiction to me.🤔

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