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cosmictinker21 cosmictinker21 Active Member
242 messages
joined Jan 2009
#481 ·
It’s basically just a dietary supplement and a glorified wellness aid. There’s hardly any actual scientific data to back it up, and honestly, what little research does exist isn't exactly groundbreaking... It’s one of those things where companies always seem to make a killing. Just like Ginkgo Biloba, B vitamins, and all that other stuff you see everywhere.
Jonathan Ruiz10 Jonathan Ruiz10 Member
20 messages
joined May 2009
#482 ·
Dear experienced members,

I’m dealing with a situation involving my mother that’s weighing heavily on me. She’s always been a difficult person—honestly, I dealt with quite a few issues with her growing up—but now that I’ve come home to visit my family, I’ve noticed she seems to be losing her grip a little. It’s as if she’s becoming intentionally mean, almost like she can't control her own impulses anymore.

For instance, we’ll be sitting at a local Starbucks, and a woman walks by with her dog. My mom will just start loudly commenting, "Oh, look at her, obsessing over that little thing. Gross! I bet she can't even have kids."

Normally, I stopped arguing with her years ago—it's just not worth the energy—but when she says things like this, I feel forced to shut her down before someone decides to get physical with either her or me.

Or, take the other day, when an old acquaintance of hers—a former Police Chief—stopped by. My mother started making these scathing remarks about how anyone with nothing more than a middle school education could get hired in law enforcement. It was enough to bring my sister to tears.

Given all this erratic behavior, I’ve started wondering if the normabel her doctor has been prescribing continuously for the last 15 years might actually be the culprit. She originally started taking them for depression after losing her job, but now she takes them constantly, and I’m honestly not even sure why anymore. She’s never quite been herself, but it used to feel more like a personality trait rather than... this.

I’m terrified that the normabel has actually made things worse for her. On top of that, she occasionally has a drink—not like an alcoholic, mind you—but then she'll take her normabel on the same day. From what I understand, that’s incredibly dangerous, and the instructions specifically state you shouldn't be on normabel for longer than three weeks.

So, what am I supposed to do about the doctor who keeps handing these out? What kind of steps can I actually take?

I’m scared she’s going to lose her sense of reality entirely and start causing much bigger scenes or outbursts for all of us to deal with.

Basically, can anyone tell me if taking normabel for such a long duration can cause these kinds of effects, and if so, how???

Thank you all so much in advance!!!
Donna Wood52 Donna Wood52 Active Member
145 messages
joined Dec 2008
#483 ·
normabel

The risk of getting hooked really comes down to two things: how much you're taking and how long you stay on it. Ideally, treatment shouldn't drag on past two or three months—and that includes the tapering period. If you just quit cold turkey, you run the risk of hitting a "rebound" effect, where those original symptoms come crashing back even harder than before. Plus, stopping abruptly after long-term use can trigger nasty withdrawal symptoms—we're talking headaches, muscle aches, intense anxiety, tension, restlessness, confusion, and irritability. In more extreme cases, people deal with depersonalization, derealization, hallucinations, or even seizures. This is exactly why you have to taper off normabel gradually over a decent stretch of time.

And maybe you should probably talk to a psychologist about all this.
Jonathan Ruiz10 Jonathan Ruiz10 Member
20 messages
joined May 2009
#484 ·
Wait, you're actually telling me this now!!!!

Oh, believe me, I know exactly what you mean—but honestly, how am I supposed to drag a 56-year-old woman to a psychiatrist appointment? It’s just not happening.

I was really just trying to see if anyone out there had some actual advice on how to break this cycle...
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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joined Dec 2008
#485 ·
Jonathan Ruiz10 said:Dear experienced members,

I’m dealing with a situation involving my mother that’s weighing heavily on me. She’s always been a difficult person—honestly, I dealt with quite a few issues with her growing up—but now that I’ve come home to visit my family, I’ve noticed she seems to be losing her grip a little. It’s as if she’s becoming intentionally mean, almost like she can't control her own impulses anymore.

For instance, we’ll be sitting at a local Starbucks, and a woman walks by with her dog. My mom will just start loudly commenting, "Oh, look at her, obsessing over that little thing. Gross! I bet she can't even have kids."

Normally, I stopped arguing with her years ago—it's just not worth the energy—but when she says things like this, I feel forced to shut her down before someone decides to get physical with either her or me.

Or, take the other day, when an old acquaintance of hers—a former Police Chief—stopped by. My mother started making these scathing remarks about how anyone with nothing more than a middle school education could get hired in law enforcement. It was enough to bring my sister to tears.

Given all this erratic behavior, I’ve started wondering if the normabel her doctor has been prescribing continuously for the last 15 years might actually be the culprit. She originally started taking them for depression after losing her job, but now she takes them constantly, and I’m honestly not even sure why anymore. She’s never quite been herself, but it used to feel more like a personality trait rather than... this.

I’m terrified that the normabel has actually made things worse for her. On top of that, she occasionally has a drink—not like an alcoholic, mind you—but then she'll take her normabel on the same day. From what I understand, that’s incredibly dangerous, and the instructions specifically state you shouldn't be on normabel for longer than three weeks.

So, what am I supposed to do about the doctor who keeps handing these out? What kind of steps can I actually take?

I’m scared she’s going to lose her sense of reality entirely and start causing much bigger scenes or outbursts for all of us to deal with.

Basically, can anyone tell me if taking normabel for such a long duration can cause these kinds of effects, and if so, how???

Thank you all so much in advance!!!

If she’s been taking them for that long, her body has likely built up a tolerance. You should definitely try sitting down and having a serious talk with her doctor.
Brian Wells Brian Wells Member
21 messages
joined Apr 2009
#486 ·
Jonathan Ruiz10 said:Dear experienced members,

I’m dealing with a situation involving my mother that’s weighing heavily on me. She’s always been a difficult person—honestly, I dealt with quite a few issues with her growing up—but now that I’ve come home to visit my family, I’ve noticed she seems to be losing her grip a little. It’s as if she’s becoming intentionally mean, almost like she can't control her own impulses anymore.

For instance, we’ll be sitting at a local Starbucks, and a woman walks by with her dog. My mom will just start loudly commenting, "Oh, look at her, obsessing over that little thing. Gross! I bet she can't even have kids."

Normally, I stopped arguing with her years ago—it's just not worth the energy—but when she says things like this, I feel forced to shut her down before someone decides to get physical with either her or me.

Or, take the other day, when an old acquaintance of hers—a former Police Chief—stopped by. My mother started making these scathing remarks about how anyone with nothing more than a middle school education could get hired in law enforcement. It was enough to bring my sister to tears.

Given all this erratic behavior, I’ve started wondering if the normabel her doctor has been prescribing continuously for the last 15 years might actually be the culprit. She originally started taking them for depression after losing her job, but now she takes them constantly, and I’m honestly not even sure why anymore. She’s never quite been herself, but it used to feel more like a personality trait rather than... this.

I’m terrified that the normabel has actually made things worse for her. On top of that, she occasionally has a drink—not like an alcoholic, mind you—but then she'll take her normabel on the same day. From what I understand, that’s incredibly dangerous, and the instructions specifically state you shouldn't be on normabel for longer than three weeks.

So, what am I supposed to do about the doctor who keeps handing these out? What kind of steps can I actually take?

I’m scared she’s going to lose her sense of reality entirely and start causing much bigger scenes or outbursts for all of us to deal with.

Basically, can anyone tell me if taking normabel for such a long duration can cause these kinds of effects, and if so, how???

Thank you all so much in advance!!!

Using Normabel or Valium over a long period might cause some personality changes, though maybe not quite to that extreme. It definitely leads to dependency, though. Looking at your mom's situation, I don't think the issue is just the long-term use of Normabel, her doctor, or even addiction itself (sometimes dependency is unavoidable). It seems more like it's her actual temperament, her age, or perhaps an underlying health issue.
If she isn't bumping up the dosage, she probably isn't that addicted.
It looks like she's taking a bit less than the prescribed Normabel dose mid-day. I should mention that if you can't find a way to get her to seek help now, waiting until she sees a psychiatrist later might result in a much more volatile situation.

Just try everything you can right now to convince her.

It would probably make things a little calmer for everyone involved.☕
Keith Jones76 Keith Jones76 Active Member
174 messages
joined Mar 2009
#487 ·
melloweagle30 said:I trust my doctor completely. She spent a long time weighing whether or not to prescribe it, but since my depression is actually triggered by bulimia, she decided this was the best route given my weight concerns...

Right now, I'm about 13 pounds heavier than usual. I know that isn't a huge deal because I'm still thin, but in my head, it feels like the number one issue, especially since I feel like I've lost control over my life and my food...

Naturally, when things get tough, I fall back into bingeing and purging, which just fuels that cycle of dissatisfaction and disappointment in myself, pushing me even deeper into depression...

Even though it's not typically recommended for people with eating disorders, it has actually been incredibly effective in treating bulimia and binge eating disorder...

I know that once I regain control over my life, everything will fall back into place. I've always been a bit of a control freak...

At the end of the day, I have full confidence in my psychiatrist and know she knows exactly what she's doing.
Thanks anyway.

Yeah, then we're good! I was just curious (wondering if you were keeping the bulimia a secret, like you were planning to handle it all on your own). You see all sorts of things on these forums, so I had to ask.
Everything you described sounds like a classic closed loop; it's textbook bulimia, and it makes perfect sense that it leads to depression. I really hope that medication helps you out. Good luck!
amberdriver85 amberdriver85 Member
21 messages
joined May 2009
#488 ·
I’ve been on Lexapro for six weeks now, but honestly, I’m feeling absolutely zero difference. This depression is heavy, and my motivation has just completely evaporated... I have a follow-up scheduled for June 2nd with my therapist. We started me on 5 mg, and per her recommendation, I’ve bumped it up to 15 mg daily.
Is there actually a chance this thing will finally kick in? Like, can it still start working at this stage? How has it treated you guys? How long did it take before you actually felt a shift?
Jason Hughes51 Jason Hughes51 Member
23 messages
joined Mar 2009
#489 ·
I’ve just started back on a new course of Valium. 😍 My doctor mentioned that I look much better lately, 😍 though she noted that it might take about three months before I feel any truly significant internal shifts. 🙂
It’s interesting how things have changed—the tablets actually seem to be working for me now.

As for xanax, I’m not taking that anymore. My psychiatrist, my primary physician, and I all reached the same conclusion: it just isn't necessary for me anymore.
Brian Wells Brian Wells Member
21 messages
joined Apr 2009
#490 ·
Jason Hughes51 said:I’ve just started back on a new course of Valium. 😍 My doctor mentioned that I look much better lately, 😍 though she noted that it might take about three months before I feel any truly significant internal shifts. 🙂
It’s interesting how things have changed—the tablets actually seem to be working for me now.

As for xanax, I’m not taking that anymore. My psychiatrist, my primary physician, and I all reached the same conclusion: it just isn't necessary for me anymore.

Glad to hear it, Jason Hughes51. For me, after being on Valium for about a month and a half, I feel more alive,😉 like I can actually enjoy simple things. I'm calmer and more upbeat, though I still don't have the energy to cut down my lorazepam 3X1.5mg dose. How long have you been on Valium?
Did you quit xanax cold turkey, or did you follow a specific plan? If you have a method, a suggestion, or just an idea, please let me know.
I'm also open to hearing from anyone else who has tapered off benzos.😕.

😛
Jason Hughes51 Jason Hughes51 Member
23 messages
joined Mar 2009
#491 ·
Brian Wells said:Glad to hear it, Jason Hughes51. For me, after being on Valium for about a month and a half, I feel more alive,😉 like I can actually enjoy simple things. I'm calmer and more upbeat, though I still don't have the energy to cut down my lorazepam 3X1.5mg dose. How long have you been on Valium?
Did you quit xanax cold turkey, or did you follow a specific plan? If you have a method, a suggestion, or just an idea, please let me know.
I'm also open to hearing from anyone else who has tapered off benzos.😕.

😛

I have been on Valium for just under three months now. My doctor mentioned that things should improve even further in a week or so, and once they see that I am doing okay, they will let me taper off immediately without much fuss. In theory, the tapering process shouldn't actually be a problem.

I didn't really follow a strict protocol. I used them initially to act as a sort of "bridge" until the Valium began to take effect, even if only slightly. I wouldn't say I had a grand strategy; I simply knew how difficult withdrawing from these can be, so I figured it was better to be prepared rather than wait.
I developed a little routine where I would take one before bed, or perhaps just half a tablet if I felt particularly unsettled during the day. I ended up taking that half dose a few times, though I was more consistent with the nighttime dose.
The transition went relatively smoothly. I didn't sleep for about three nights, but I made sure to exhaust myself during the day, and that seemed to do the trick. I experienced a bit of increased salivation and some restlessness in bed, but nothing truly unbearable.

Sleeping while on them was pure bliss. I would take a pill, tuck myself in, and I was instantly in dreamland; I wasn't waking up in a cold sweat anymore, but instead waking up in the morning feeling like a baby. I honestly might have stayed on them longer, but I don't think anyone needs that kind of dependency—so now I am just on the Valium.🙂

When I go out now, I don't have issues with men approaching me; I don't live in fear that something terrible is going to happen. After a little more time with my psychiatrist, I truly believe I will make it through this.

I had to head over to the clinic the other day to pick up my prescriptions. Aside from the fact that she thinks I look much better, I actually had to thank her for essentially pushing me toward seeing the psychiatrist in the first place.🙏
Terry Mendoza80 Terry Mendoza80 Member
35 messages
joined Dec 2010
#492 ·
I’ve been on it for about three and a half weeks now—around 15 mg daily—and I’m starting to get this subtle, faint feeling that it’s actually beginning to kick in...
Donna Wood52 Donna Wood52 Active Member
145 messages
joined Dec 2008
#493 ·
I’ve been on Lexapro myself—started it last year—and honestly, it’s done wonders for me, especially
when it comes to those early morning wake-ups that used to feel like an impossible uphill battle.

I did deal with some side effects at first—shaky hands, even some headaches—but things have finally settled down and everything is fine now!
Brian Wells Brian Wells Member
21 messages
joined Apr 2009
#494 ·
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Jason Hughes51 said:I have been on Valium for just under three months now. My doctor mentioned that things should improve even further in a week or so, and once they see that I am doing okay, they will let me taper off immediately without much fuss. In theory, the tapering process shouldn't actually be a problem.

I didn't really follow a strict protocol. I used them initially to act as a sort of "bridge" until the Valium began to take effect, even if only slightly. I wouldn't say I had a grand strategy; I simply knew how difficult withdrawing from these can be, so I figured it was better to be prepared rather than wait.
I developed a little routine where I would take one before bed, or perhaps just half a tablet if I felt particularly unsettled during the day. I ended up taking that half dose a few times, though I was more consistent with the nighttime dose.
The transition went relatively smoothly. I didn't sleep for about three nights, but I made sure to exhaust myself during the day, and that seemed to do the trick. I experienced a bit of increased salivation and some restlessness in bed, but nothing truly unbearable.

Sleeping while on them was pure bliss. I would take a pill, tuck myself in, and I was instantly in dreamland; I wasn't waking up in a cold sweat anymore, but instead waking up in the morning feeling like a baby. I honestly might have stayed on them longer, but I don't think anyone needs that kind of dependency—so now I am just on the Valium.🙂

When I go out now, I don't have issues with men approaching me; I don't live in fear that something terrible is going to happen. After a little more time with my psychiatrist, I truly believe I will make it through this.

I had to head over to the clinic the other day to pick up my prescriptions. Aside from the fact that she thinks I look much better, I actually had to thank her for essentially pushing me toward seeing the psychiatrist in the first place.🙏

Well, thanks for the essay. It seems like all I need right now is some courage. The Valium definitely works, but sometimes I still get emotional turbulence, especially on these hot, humid days when it feels like a storm is coming and everything goes back to how it was...

I'm hoping the Valium kicks in even more and gives me the push I need to start tapering off the Lorazepam. That stuff is a terrible anxiolytic...

It’s been a "friend" of mine for 16 years now, and I can't imagine not taking it. That’s the biggest hurdle, I guess... and my psychotherapist keeps pointing that out, too.

Best,
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
457 messages
joined May 2009
#495 ·
My psychiatrist ended up prescribing me the Hale version (generic sertraline, which is essentially just Zoloft).
I have to admit, I was a bit caught off guard when she mentioned I’d likely need to stay on it for at least a year... as if that's just the baseline. If that's the case, I suppose I might end up taking it for three years or more😕. At that point, I'll probably be hooked, right? It all feels a little unsettling to me, I guess.😢
Is anyone else here on a 100mg daily dose? My plan is to start with 50mg in the morning for the first week, then transition to one in the morning and one in the afternoon. I’m only on my second day of treatment, and I've already noticed some side effects: a slight sense of lightheadedness, dry mouth, difficulty concentrating, some trouble finding my words, and this persistent feeling of tension in my jaw—like my lower mandible is constantly clenched🤷. Has anyone else dealt with any of these specific issues?
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Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
245 messages
joined Jun 2024
#496 ·
I tried mixing xanax with Zoloft once, and honestly? It was a total disaster. I felt completely wasted, like I couldn't even walk straight.
I was on Ativan for a little while—that actually worked okay for me.
Fast forward to now: I’ve been taking 1.5 mg of Ativan once a day for three days. So far, so good, I think... but hey, we'll see how things look in a week.
quietfalcon2 quietfalcon2 Newcomer
1 message
joined May 2009
#497 ·
I’ve been on it for maybe two or three months now. I had some digestive issues for about a couple of weeks—though, honestly, I’ve struggled with insomnia practically my whole life, so I’m really not sure if that was actually a side effect or just... me. I suppose I feel a bit better in the sense that those massive, month-long crises don't seem to hit quite as hard anymore. But most of the time, I just feel sort of numb—you know? Like I'm just going through the motions. I’m functional, I can get things done, I'm surviving, I guess.
Keith Jones76 Keith Jones76 Active Member
174 messages
joined Mar 2009
#498 ·
Someone earlier misstated that Xanax is a psychotic, which isn't true—it’s actually an anxiolytic. Meaning it lowers anxiety without necessarily knocking you out.
Keith Jones76 Keith Jones76 Active Member
174 messages
joined Mar 2009
#499 ·
The real magic of an antidepressant is actually happening at a morphological level within the brain — it encourages the formation of new neural connections (which tend to wither away during depression, causing certain brain regions to literally "shrink"). That’s why you have to stay on them for the long haul, sometimes for five years or more... If you stop too soon, those symptoms can come crawling back because those depleted areas haven't fully "rebuilt" themselves yet.

It’s also exactly why it takes about 3 to 4 weeks (on average) to actually feel anything — you’re essentially waiting for those first new neural pathways to establish themselves.

Sure, neurotransmitter levels spike almost immediately after you take the dose, but the real question is whether there's actually a functional infrastructure for them to work with. That’s where neuroplasticity and staying consistent with the treatment come into play.
Gerald Anderson92 Gerald Anderson92 Newcomer
1 message
joined May 2009
#500 ·
I was on Zoloft for two months—but the insomnia was just too much, so I quit. Now I've been taking one Fevarin tablet every night for three days and I’m finally sleeping better.

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