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fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#461 ·
ambermason16 said:Tolerance, right? 😢

Whenever I was in the hospital, if they mixed red Klonopin into my other meds, I felt like I was walking on cooked hot dogs. It was pathetic. And honestly, Lepica sounds like they have it ten times worse. I have zero clue what kind of sadist prescribed hundreds of milligrams a day to that user on this forum... Sounds like pure science fiction to me.🤔

Give me a break!!!😲
ambermason16 ambermason16 Active Member
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#462 ·
fadedbear92 said:Give me a break!!!😲

Seriously, did you just skip over the post from a few pages back? I can't recall the exact wording right now—and maybe I'm exaggerating a bit—but it was something like three 100mg doses a day, plus another four 100mg hits at night... or something along those lines.😱

edit: I can't find it right this second... Jerry Martinez5, you saw it—it was in that thread about Leponex that you linked to this one... where is it? 🤔
Jerry Martinez5 Jerry Martinez5 Regular
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#463 ·
My bad... that's just what happens when threads get merged 🙈
James Ramirez10 James Ramirez10 Active Member
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#464 ·
fadedbear92 said:The blackouts are real,😂🤣if it were just one pill of that 25 mg yellow crap😂, I wouldn't have woken up for at least a year! At first, I was sleeping 12 hours straight, but now I'm barely getting half that much—it's driving me crazy.😲


As for me, those yellow ones didn't really do much. It felt like I was just drinking a glass of water... 😕
melloweagle30 melloweagle30 Newcomer
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#465 ·
Has anyone here had any experience with Wellbutrin XL?

Since Wellbutrin didn't quite hit the mark for me—it helped a bit, but my depressive symptoms have started creeping back up—I've finally been prescribed Wellbutrin XL. I actually had to wait about a week for the pharmacy to get it in stock, which was a bit frustrating...

I'm dealing with major depression, anxiety, and, of course, bulimia...

Any thoughts or experiences you can share?
Keith Jones76 Keith Jones76 Active Member
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#466 ·
This one works differently than your typical antidepressants. Instead of messing with serotonin, it actually bumps up dopamine and norepinephrine. It’s usually prescribed for major depressive episodes or seasonal atypical depression. That said, you have to be careful if you have a history of eating disorders , because there's an increased risk of seizures, and I suspect it might cause some weight loss too. Hopefully, you've already run this by your doctor, or maybe just give them a call to double-check.
ambermason16 ambermason16 Active Member
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#467 ·
melloweagle30 said:Has anyone here had any experience with Wellbutrin XL?

Since Wellbutrin didn't quite hit the mark for me—it helped a bit, but my depressive symptoms have started creeping back up—I've finally been prescribed Wellbutrin XL. I actually had to wait about a week for the pharmacy to get it in stock, which was a bit frustrating...

I'm dealing with major depression, anxiety, and, of course, bulimia...

Any thoughts or experiences you can share?


I tried it. Took it for maybe a week or two... but honestly, I was in such a complete wreck that I couldn't even wrap my head around sticking to a therapy schedule, let alone remembering to take a pill at a specific time. Interestingly enough—they prescribed this to me as part of the treatment once the bulimia entered the equation...

So, I don't really know how it works. Just like any other psych med, this felt more like a chore than actual medicine. I ended up having to sort through the mental clutter on my own anyway...

Ugh, I swear, I hate these little pills. God, I can't wait to be done with all of this. 🙏

p.s. Good luck with the recovery. 🙂
melloweagle30 melloweagle30 Newcomer
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#468 ·
ambermason16 said:I tried it. Took it for maybe a week or two... but honestly, I was in such a complete wreck that I couldn't even wrap my head around sticking to a therapy schedule, let alone remembering to take a pill at a specific time. Interestingly enough—they prescribed this to me as part of the treatment once the bulimia entered the equation...

So, I don't really know how it works. Just like any other psych med, this felt more like a chore than actual medicine. I ended up having to sort through the mental clutter on my own anyway...

Ugh, I swear, I hate these little pills. God, I can't wait to be done with all of this. 🙏

p.s. Good luck with the recovery. 🙂


Thanks, I really hope this turns out to be as helpful as all the positive stories I've read online!!!!

Kudos to you for being able to pull yourself together like that, but unfortunately, I haven't had that luck... I've certainly tried... It's been eighteen months of pure struggle and heartache, but nothing seems to work...

It's not like I'm just handing everything over to medication and waiting for a miracle, but they definitely make things a bit easier...

Wishing you the best of luck with your results!!!

Tnx 🙂
melloweagle30 melloweagle30 Newcomer
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#469 ·
Keith Jones76 said:This one works differently than your typical antidepressants. Instead of messing with serotonin, it actually bumps up dopamine and norepinephrine. It’s usually prescribed for major depressive episodes or seasonal atypical depression. That said, you have to be careful if you have a history of eating disorders , because there's an increased risk of seizures, and I suspect it might cause some weight loss too. Hopefully, you've already run this by your doctor, or maybe just give them a call to double-check.


I trust my doctor completely. She spent a long time weighing whether or not to prescribe it, but since my depression is actually triggered by bulimia, she decided this was the best route given my weight concerns...

Right now, I'm about 13 pounds heavier than usual. I know that isn't a huge deal because I'm still thin, but in my head, it feels like the number one issue, especially since I feel like I've lost control over my life and my food...

Naturally, when things get tough, I fall back into bingeing and purging, which just fuels that cycle of dissatisfaction and disappointment in myself, pushing me even deeper into depression...

Even though it's not typically recommended for people with eating disorders, it has actually been incredibly effective in treating bulimia and binge eating disorder...

I know that once I regain control over my life, everything will fall back into place. I've always been a bit of a control freak...

At the end of the day, I have full confidence in my psychiatrist and know she knows exactly what she's doing.
Thanks anyway.
cosmictinker21 cosmictinker21 Active Member
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#470 ·
Look, if you really think about it, all this effort you're putting in is actually just a symptom of lacking self-control. If you truly had it, you wouldn't be feeling this constant, frantic urge regarding your diet. It sounds like a paradox, I know, but that lack of control is exactly what’s driving these obsessive behaviors in the first place. Honestly, nobody can have a grip on every single aspect of their life—besides, why would anyone need to? Most people function just fine without being perfectionists. You aren't some sort of outlier here. Just listen to your body and what it needs, and learn how to just... let go. Insecure people tend to think that if they lose sight of everything, they won't have the strength to fix any potential disasters. But you have to realize that these are just normal life situations that everyone deals with; it's not a catastrophe. Nothing particularly dangerous is going to happen to you. A mature, self-assured adult knows they'll figure things out regardless of whatever mess they stumble into. So, it’s not about needing "self-control" or understanding the concept; it's about having enough inner security to feel like a whole, adult, responsible person. That's where a therapist comes in to guide you, though you've got plenty of work to do on your own too. Just relax. Like a blade of grass in the wind, you'll eventually settle back into place. Just be the grass...
Brian Wells Brian Wells Member
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#471 ·
After about a month on Coaxil (3x12.5mg), my depressive symptoms have eased up quite a bit, and my anxiety feels way more manageable.😛 I feel much better overall... more balanced, maybe a bit more steady.

I’m still taking anxiolytics, though (3 x 1.5mg Lorsilan).
I can't tell if this is just withdrawal or if my anxiety disorder is just that intense.🙂

I keep wondering, "is this really me, or is it just the withdrawal?"☕

Should I just stay where I am, or should I try to taper off the anxiolytics after using them for a full 16 years????????🤷
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#472 ·
Brian Wells said:After about a month on Coaxil (3x12.5mg), my depressive symptoms have eased up quite a bit, and my anxiety feels way more manageable.😛 I feel much better overall... more balanced, maybe a bit more steady.

I’m still taking anxiolytics, though (3 x 1.5mg Lorsilan).
I can't tell if this is just withdrawal or if my anxiety disorder is just that intense.🙂

I keep wondering, "is this really me, or is it just the withdrawal?"☕

Should I just stay where I am, or should I try to taper off the anxiolytics after using them for a full 16 years????????🤷

Just make sure everything is cleared by your therapist. So glad you're feeling better!👍
Brian Wells Brian Wells Member
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#473 ·
I've reached an agreement with my doctor about tapering off Lorsilan..

.... but I can't really make it happen. I just can't afford to deal with a long withdrawal period right now because of my family and work commitments.😢

Does anyone here have any first-hand experience with Tryptozen? Is it true it's supposed to act similarly to Xanax, but it's derived from milk?🙂
cosmictinker21 cosmictinker21 Active Member
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#474 ·
Brian Wells said:I've reached an agreement with my doctor about tapering off Lorsilan..

.... but I can't really make it happen. I just can't afford to deal with a long withdrawal period right now because of my family and work commitments.😢

Does anyone here have any first-hand experience with Tryptozen? Is it true it's supposed to act similarly to Xanax, but it's derived from milk?🙂

It's based on the amino acid tryptophan, which serves as a precursor and substrate for creating 5-hydroxytryptamine—otherwise known as serotonin. What’s interesting is that none of these supplements ever specify the exact chemical formula for that famous "milk peptide." Since peptides are essentially chains of amino acids, you really need to know the precise chemical structure to understand how they interact with cellular biochemistry. There are some studies out there, though they aren't particularly precise; they tend to focus more on observing results rather than establishing actual neurophysiology. Beyond that, they don't seem to share the same structure as benzodiazepines, nor do they bind to GABA receptors the way benzos do. That said, they do yield a decent effect, almost comparable to pharmacological options. Not quite at the same intensity, obviously, because if they function by increasing serotonin, then we're looking at a completely different biochemical pathway—even if the end result feels similar. After all, SSRIs and benzodiazepines have somewhat overlapping effects. In any case, there haven't been reports of toxicity or severe side effects, but you shouldn't expect miracles either. Plus, you generally have to take them consistently over a period of time before you notice anything concrete...
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#475 ·
Brian Wells said:I've reached an agreement with my doctor about tapering off Lorsilan..

.... but I can't really make it happen. I just can't afford to deal with a long withdrawal period right now because of my family and work commitments.😢

Does anyone here have any first-hand experience with Tryptozen? Is it true it's supposed to act similarly to Xanax, but it's derived from milk?🙂

You can't force it. If it isn't working yet, maybe you aren't quite ready. I was on Xanax for twelve years myself. It’s likely you need a stronger antidepressant to manage the anxiety first—once that kicks in, you'll find you naturally forget to take your anxiolytic because you won't even need it. Just take it slow and stay in close contact with your doctor.👍
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#476 ·
Did you catch this over here?
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#477 ·
Oh boy, you really want to go rogue on this one... goodness... please don't turn yourself into a guinea pig.😲😲😲
Brian Wells Brian Wells Member
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#478 ·
fadedbear92 said:You can't force it. If it isn't working yet, maybe you aren't quite ready. I was on Xanax for twelve years myself. It’s likely you need a stronger antidepressant to manage the anxiety first—once that kicks in, you'll find you naturally forget to take your anxiolytic because you won't even need it. Just take it slow and stay in close contact with your doctor.👍

..haha, good point..don't rush things..

...look, I think we're all naturally wired to try and find our own cures. From touching a wound, or getting a kiss on a boo-boo from mom, to gathering herbs... and now we have all this high-tech machinery to run tests...
...but somehow we've lost that intuition and the faith in self-healing...
and I suppose I look for answers and solutions in those kinds of places too. That's why I'm interested in everything that might help....

Thanks for the warning, I appreciate that... I tend to think along similar lines... and if there were a safe way, I guess someone would have commercialized it by now and we'd be seeing side effects... but I don't see any... That's all.

Regarding your 12 years, are you talking about tapering off xanax or being dependent on it?

The truth is, it's not the right time. I consider it a win even when I don't increase my dose. But I've been struggling with the same thing for a long while.

Best.
Brian Wells Brian Wells Member
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#479 ·
cosmictinker21 said:It's based on the amino acid tryptophan, which serves as a precursor and substrate for creating 5-hydroxytryptamine—otherwise known as serotonin. What’s interesting is that none of these supplements ever specify the exact chemical formula for that famous "milk peptide." Since peptides are essentially chains of amino acids, you really need to know the precise chemical structure to understand how they interact with cellular biochemistry. There are some studies out there, though they aren't particularly precise; they tend to focus more on observing results rather than establishing actual neurophysiology. Beyond that, they don't seem to share the same structure as benzodiazepines, nor do they bind to GABA receptors the way benzos do. That said, they do yield a decent effect, almost comparable to pharmacological options. Not quite at the same intensity, obviously, because if they function by increasing serotonin, then we're looking at a completely different biochemical pathway—even if the end result feels similar. After all, SSRIs and benzodiazepines have somewhat overlapping effects. In any case, there haven't been reports of toxicity or severe side effects, but you shouldn't expect miracles either. Plus, you generally have to take them consistently over a period of time before you notice anything concrete...

Hmm, okay. But I guess if it works, why isn't it talked about more as a potential therapy before turning to "sticky" benzodiazepines? Where can you buy this in the US, and is the product registered as a dietary supplement or a drug?

Thanks for the answer.🙂
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#480 ·
Brian Wells said:..haha, good point..don't rush things..

...look, I think we're all naturally wired to try and find our own cures. From touching a wound, or getting a kiss on a boo-boo from mom, to gathering herbs... and now we have all this high-tech machinery to run tests...
...but somehow we've lost that intuition and the faith in self-healing...
and I suppose I look for answers and solutions in those kinds of places too. That's why I'm interested in everything that might help....

Thanks for the warning, I appreciate that... I tend to think along similar lines... and if there were a safe way, I guess someone would have commercialized it by now and we'd be seeing side effects... but I don't see any... That's all.

Regarding your 12 years, are you talking about tapering off xanax or being dependent on it?

The truth is, it's not the right time. I consider it a win even when I don't increase my dose. But I've been struggling with the same thing for a long while.

Best.

Twelve years of using the same stuff and dealing with both psychological and physical dependency—for me, xanax was like a safety net whenever I felt like the ground was slipping out from under me—basically, my sense of security.

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