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goldeneagle8 said:So, I hit up the pharmacy just two days ago looking for Normabel, but they wouldn't give me the time of day unless I had a prescription in hand... which totally threw me for a loop because why on earth was I able to grab Apaurin over the counter without any hassle, even though Normabel and Apaurin are literally the exact same thing?? I'm seriously confused about why one is treated like this and the other isn't when they're identical... anyone know what's up? Thanks
velvetsailor26 said:you know, you eventually just lose the will to keep searching... you reach a point where you stop believing that anything can actually help you. thanks for the advice, though. hope dies last, I guess.
Jerry Martinez5 said:granitefalcon26, maybe stop telling everyone else that sex is some kind of cure for depression or mental health issues? I just had to delete another one of your posts about it.
It's pretty obvious that even sex hasn't helped you get off those pills entirely.
wiredharbor18 said:I'm certainly not making this up; I know this area quite well due to my profession.
Not to mention that I am personally going through a rough patch myself. I just want to share my own experiences and knowledge with people (though I should clarify that I'm not claiming to be some ultimate authority or saying everything I say is gospel, since my primary focus is on influencers and cancer).
Rebound occurs when you stop taking antidepressants before the underlying condition is actually resolved—meaning, without a psychiatrist's approval. After a certain amount of time, much more severe depressive episodes (depression, anxiety, and panic) kick in. I’ve experienced this firsthand, a few months after I stopped taking them on my own.
However, I think the question was specifically about physical symptoms during a sudden stoppage, and those would be the ones I mentioned, which aren't nearly as devastating as actual depression itself. They typically last about seven days.
Regarding citalon-cipralex, studies have been conducted on several thousand individuals, both healthy and ill, including placebo groups. This makes the data highly relevant, as I pulled it directly from a prestigious scientific journal.
I wouldn't have even brought up this data if it weren't true that I transitioned from cipralex to citalon and haven't felt any changes or side effects—which aligns with almost 90% of the people in that study.
Because if I wasn't doing okay, I'd definitely still be on cipralex.
wiredharbor18 said:I'm certainly not making this up; I know this area quite well due to my profession.
Not to mention that I am personally going through a rough patch myself. I just want to share my own experiences and knowledge with people (though I should clarify that I'm not claiming to be some ultimate authority or saying everything I say is gospel, since my primary focus is on influencers and cancer).
Rebound occurs when you stop taking antidepressants before the underlying condition is actually resolved—meaning, without a psychiatrist's approval. After a certain amount of time, much more severe depressive episodes (depression, anxiety, and panic) kick in. I’ve experienced this firsthand, a few months after I stopped taking them on my own.
However, I think the question was specifically about physical symptoms during a sudden stoppage, and those would be the ones I mentioned, which aren't nearly as devastating as actual depression itself. They typically last about seven days.
Regarding citalon-cipralex, studies have been conducted on several thousand individuals, both healthy and ill, including placebo groups. This makes the data highly relevant, as I pulled it directly from a prestigious scientific journal.
I wouldn't have even brought up this data if it weren't true that I transitioned from cipralex to citalon and haven't felt any changes or side effects—which aligns with almost 90% of the people in that study.
Because if I wasn't doing okay, I'd definitely still be on cipralex.
wiredharbor18 said:unknown
Good grief, I just can't deal with this anymore.
Does anyone actually bother reading that damn little pamphlet inside the pill box???
All you need is to know about thirty letters of the alphabet.
Suicidality is listed as a symptom of depression.
It can increase during the initial stages of taking antidepressants—which requires medical supervision.
Antidepressants—take them for at least six months.
But seriously, I am so incredibly happy for you!!!
As for me, I’m having sex two or three times a day, whether it's with my boyfriend or on my own!
I hit the gym for at least an hour every single day!
I have tons of friends and people to talk to or grab drinks with!
I'm working toward my Master's while also maintaining a hobby!
My days are completely full from start to finish!
What else is there to say???
And yet, I can't seem to shake this depression and panic without these damn meds and a damn psychiatrist!!!
Just like most people in here.
Maybe we should all just try ditching the pills and the doctors and just stick to porn and the elliptical??
Like, a collective effort.
granitefalcon26 said:Look, you know as well as I do that big pharma companies run studies to suit their own interests.
There was a time when the New England Journal of Medicine published a study claiming that unknown (a diabetes med) was risky for people with cardiovascular issues.
Honestly, that sounds like total nonsense to me. Most diabetic patients already have damaged blood vessels, so a huge chunk of them are heart patients anyway. Even the FDA, which is incredibly strict, didn't ban the drug.
In my actual experience, I've never seen a single death caused by using that medication.
Studies are one thing, but real-world practice is something else entirely.
Medicine isn't math. Just because citalon works just as well as cipralex for you doesn't mean it'll be the same for me.
wiredharbor18 said:I never actually claimed they were identical or had equal efficacy; my point was simply that the difference in effectiveness doesn't justify such a massive price gap.
And I'm only bringing this up because I happen to be on that specific therapy myself.
My intention is solely to offer helpful advice to others, not to get into a heated argument with anyone here.
Furthermore, I am very well aware of how pharmaceutical companies operate and the politics within the FDA, which I personally find quite distasteful.
granitefalcon26 said:What I really want to know is: what does coming off cipralex actually look like? I’m nowhere near that stage yet, but I'm curious if anyone here has been through it. Do the old symptoms come crawling back? And how long are you supposed to stay on it? A year?
Firestarter 17. 16.07. at 23.08.
If you look closely, the question was specifically about whether the mental symptoms return. Nobody was talking about physical ones.😉
Peter Lee6 said:Then I really don't know what to tell you; I don't get why you're depressed when you seemingly have everything going for you. If pills help you, fine, but I don't need them...
silverranger10 said:My dad has been on Zoloft and Lexapro for about 18 days now. This is actually his first time ever taking medication for this, though looking back over the last 20 years, he’s definitely had those shorter bouts of depression and total lack of motivation... it all really peaked two months ago when he dealt with some intense stomach anxiety and ended up making an appointment with a psychiatrist on his own.
Even though he claims the pills aren't doing anything, from my perspective, the Zoloft seems to be helping quite a bit. His stomach issues have cleared up, he isn't acting depressed or lethargic anymore, his appetite is back, and he actually has the drive to get chores done around the house...
however, he just can't sleep. For the first two days after starting, he was actually sleeping a ton, but since then—for the last 16 days straight—he hasn't been able to catch any rest at all.
A friend of mine is a psychologist and has some experience in this field, and she says it takes time for the meds to really kick in and that we need to be patient. But man, it is incredibly hard to explain that to someone who is actually struggling with these symptoms.
How long does it usually take to see the full effects of Lexapro?
Also, is it safe to take those medications alongside Vitamin B?
As a family, how should we be handling this? Sometimes he just seems so hopeless.
Are there any teas you’d recommend that might help ease things, maybe something like St. John's Wort?
Our family hasn't really dealt with mental health issues like this before, so we might have been making mistakes by telling him it was "all in his head" or pushing him to get out more and go to work. We eventually realized we shouldn't have been forcing him into things.
Thanks in advance!
| Can you take those pills along with Vitamin B? |
| How should we, as a family, approach this—because honestly, there are moments when it all just feels incredibly bleak? |
| Does anyone actually recommend any specific teas to help manage things—maybe something like St. John's Wort? |
| Our family hadn't dealt with anything like this before—so we definitely made some mistakes along the way. We kept telling him it was all "in his head" and pushed him to get back out there, to socialize, to get back to work... but we've since realized how wrong that was. You can't just force someone through something like this. Thanks in advance! |
wiredharbor18 said:unknown
Good grief, I just can't deal with this anymore.
Does anyone actually bother reading that damn little pamphlet inside the pill box???
All you need is to know about thirty letters of the alphabet.
Suicidality is listed as a symptom of depression.
It can increase during the initial stages of taking antidepressants—which requires medical supervision.
Antidepressants—take them for at least six months.
But seriously, I am so incredibly happy for you!!!
As for me, I’m having sex two or three times a day, whether it's with my boyfriend or on my own!
I hit the gym for at least an hour every single day!
I have tons of friends and people to talk to or grab drinks with!
I'm working toward my Master's while also maintaining a hobby!
My days are completely full from start to finish!
What else is there to say???
And yet, I can't seem to shake this depression and panic without these damn meds and a damn psychiatrist!!!
Just like most people in here.
Maybe we should all just try ditching the pills and the doctors and just stick to porn and the elliptical??
Like, a collective effort.
fadedbear92 said:I don't know, but based on what you wrote, it doesn't sound like you have any actual depressive symptoms—you just "don't have time" for them because you can't fit them into your crazy 48-hour schedule! http://imagesforum.doctissimo.fr/ima...rso/aldeen.gif If I'm wrong, my bad.
wiredharbor18 said:Dear wiredharbor18, after being on antidepressants for nearly seven years, I am actually quite relieved to say I don't experience those heavy symptoms anymore; I only deal with mild episodes maybe once or twice a month, which is much better than before.
I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at with this comment. I was simply trying to explain to this guy that I couldn't overcome my depression without medication and seeing a psychiatrist, especially since he keeps insisting that sex, exercise, and staying busy are enough to cure it. I'm just attempting to point out that for most people, that approach simply doesn't work.😕
fadedbear92 said:My apologies—I clearly missed the mark there. Have you ever switched up your AD? Are you doing PT? If so, how often do you go?
wiredharbor18 said:Don't worry about it at all.
In the beginning, I was on Zoloft and Xanax, but once I started feeling a bit better, I tried to handle everything on my own. That turned out to be a mistake, and things actually got much worse.
Eventually, I switched over to Lexapro, then moved to Celexa, which is what I'm currently taking alongside Klonopin to manage panic attacks (which I’ve realized mostly tend to flare up during my Democrat cycle).
Right now, I only see a therapist occasionally, maybe once every two or three months, because I'm feeling relatively stable. However, my psychiatrist isn't very clear about the long-term plan, which makes me feel like I might just be dealing with this for the rest of my life.😢
Honestly, if it weren't for the medication and therapy, I probably wouldn't be here today.
I just really want to let anyone else struggling with this know that needing help for anxiety or depression isn't something to be ashamed of. You can absolutely live a normal, functional life despite dealing with depression—it's a pervasive issue, but there are ways to manage it.
