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Soul and Spirit

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Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#241 ·
Go ahead. Try letting go of consciousness if you think you can.

Most Eastern spiritual traditions maintain that the starting point is the cessation of thought.
The typical American responds to that with: "Then what am I left with?"


"Consciousness" is a more accurate term.

Everything remains exactly as it was... except there won't be a "me" thinking about it.

That constant validation of "I am doing this" vanishes... replaced by simply being.
An eternally living spark of the flame of Quincy.

Exactly... 🙄 🤣

And what is God?😁

That’s just your own thoughts talking...

There is no other way for it to be possible.😁

Everything is wrong.

🤣

How many times do I have to repeat myself? There is no such thing as right or wrong.😉
When thoughts vanish, nothingness and everything exist simultaneously.😁

I'll believe it when you show me consciousness.

How am I supposed to demonstrate the very thing that constitutes my identity—my knowledge, my convictions? It’s an impossible demonstration... even if there is absolutely NOTHING left to show.😉

It's the opposite.

IT IS NOT THE OPPOSITE. Don't try to swap the word "soul" for "consciousness."😉

Soul and consciousness are merely concepts and words.😉
hollowtrucker hollowtrucker Member
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#242 ·
Karen Sanchez19 said:"consciousness" is a better term

True enough—but that specific wording fits my framework perfectly, whereas for you, it’s the only way to see it.

Karen Sanchez19 said:so what is God?😁

Karen Sanchez19, you aren't really listening to me.

But look, let me lay it out for you:
God is both the origin and the ultimate destination of an absolute consciousness existing in eternal bliss.

Karen Sanchez19 said:soul and consciousness are just concepts and words

Well, concepts and words are *just* concepts and words; but the soul and consciousness—those are indestructible truths.
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#243 ·
Karen Sanchez19 said:consciousness is the superior term

Everything will return to its original state... but the concept of "me" disappears.

The whole idea of seeking validation—proving that "you exist and act"—it all dissolves into pure BEING.

It is what it is... 🙄 🤣

And what exactly is God?

There is simply no other way for this to exist.😁

🤣

How many times must I hammer home that there is no such thing as "right" or "wrong"?😉
When thoughts vanish, nothing remains. Yet, everything exists.😁

How am I supposed to demonstrate my essence—my knowledge, my convictions, this mere performance—when there is absolutely NOTHING left to show?😉

It isn't reversible. You can't just swap the word "soul" for "consciousness" and call it even.😉

Soul and consciousness are nothing more than labels. Just words.😉


In the end, it doesn't matter which side you take.😁
Jason Johnson4 Jason Johnson4 Active Member
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#244 ·
G: So, what exactly is the soul?

hollowtrucker: It's an eternal spark, part of the flame of God.

G: And what about God?

hollowtrucker: God is the ultimate source and final destination of absolute consciousness—pure, everlasting bliss.

*

So basically... the soul is just this eternal, living spark from the very source and end point of absolute consciousness and infinite bliss. 😵 😁 😬 🙂
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#245 ·
Jason Johnson4 said:Q: So, what exactly is the soul?

hollowtrucker: An eternal, living spark from the flame of God.

Q: And what about God?

hollowtrucker: God is the source and the ultimate destination of absolute consciousness and everlasting bliss.

*

So... basically, the soul is an eternal, living spark belonging to the flame, the source, and the final resting place of absolute conscious, eternal bliss. 😵 😁 😬 🙂

🙏 🤣 🤣
hollowtrucker hollowtrucker Member
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#246 ·
Jason Johnson4 said:The soul is an eternal spark—a flicker, a spring, and the ultimate destination of absolute consciousness and everlasting bliss.

I couldn't agree more! But tell me—do you see a distinction between the spark and the flame?
In my view, the soul isn't just a smaller version of God... it’s qualitatively different entirely.
Jason Johnson4 Jason Johnson4 Active Member
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#247 ·
Dechko, you're just talking nonsense.
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#248 ·
Jason Johnson4 said:Dude, you're talking absolute nonsense.

Unless I'm mistaken, she's a woman, right?🙄

Huh?

Abraham Lincoln, are you a woman?
Jason Johnson4 Jason Johnson4 Active Member
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#249 ·
Karen Sanchez19, how on earth are you supposed to tell if a fish in an aquarium is male or female?

Just toss a little piece of bread into the tank. If she gobbles it up, she’s a female; if he eats it, then he’s a male.🙂

Abraham Lincoln is a man.😁
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#250 ·
Jason Johnson4 said:Hey Karen Sanchez19, how can you tell if a fish in an aquarium is male or female?

Toss a crumb of bread into the tank. If she eats it, she's female; if he eats it, he's male. 🙂

Abraham Lincoln is a man. 😁

😍 🙄 🙄

hollowtrucker says she ate it. 😉 😁 😁

Take a closer look.

Probably... I don't know, since gender isn't even mentioned when we speak in generalities here. 😁
hollowtrucker hollowtrucker Member
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#251 ·
Abraham Lincoln is the feminine mother-daughter wisdom of grace.

The bear and the deer are just little animals lost in the forest of ignorance....
Jason Johnson4 Jason Johnson4 Active Member
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#252 ·
Oh man, Karen Sanchez19, seriously 🙄

I just don't have the energy to 😉 😁 🙂
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#253 ·
Jason Johnson4 said:Oh my god, Karen Sanchez19 is actually 🙄

I just don't have the energy for 😉 😁 🙂


What happened, Karen Sanchez19?😕

What exactly isn't working for you? 😕
Well, she already mentioned being a woman😁
back then😁

Right, hollowtrucker?
Jason Johnson4 Jason Johnson4 Active Member
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#254 ·
Aha 😬 😁
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#255 ·
Jason Johnson4 said:Abraham Lincoln 😬 😁

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🙂
mistyfox812 mistyfox812 Regular
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#256 ·
Napoleon Bonaparte Pig said:Wait, so are the Flies PMs or what? 😁

Muhammad really doesn't care—it’s all the same to him, whether it's total crap or a gourmet dessert. 😉
Michelle Adams45 Michelle Adams45 Newcomer
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#257 ·
"Everything that lives possesses a spirit, for it is the spirit that brings life" (John 6:63)
When we pass away, our spirit simply detaches from the physical body, because the spirit itself is immortal
At that point, we will all face judgment based on our actions
Those who have been saved—the spirits of the righteous—will "rise in the resurrection of life," whereas
those who lived in sin will undergo the "resurrection of judgment"
They will endure eternal torment in hell

The soul represents our emotions, our reasoning, our intellect...
Therefore, one arrives at the conclusion that a human being is a spirit, possessing a soul, while living within a physical body😁

Jesus is He !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let us enter into victory and breakthrough alongside Him!
jademarlin26 jademarlin26 Active Member
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#258 ·
Michelle Adams45 said:"Everything that lives possesses a spirit, for it is the spirit that brings life" (John 6:63)
When we pass away, our spirit simply detaches from the physical body, because the spirit itself is immortal
At that point, we will all face judgment based on our actions
Those who have been saved—the spirits of the righteous—will "rise in the resurrection of life," whereas
those who lived in sin will undergo the "resurrection of judgment"
They will endure eternal torment in hell

The soul represents our emotions, our reasoning, our intellect...
Therefore, one arrives at the conclusion that a human being is a spirit, possessing a soul, while living within a physical body😁

Jesus is He !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let us enter into victory and breakthrough alongside Him!

We lack any empirical basis to conclude that spirit and body (matter) are separable—that one can exist independently of the other. It is much like how the poles of a magnet cannot exist in isolation; you either have both or neither. To bridge the gap between the spirit, which binds us to eternity, and the body, which binds us to transience, there exists a bridge: the soul, comprising our mental and emotional states. All three elements constitute a human being.

That which remains eternal, or appears to be immortal, is not the individual, but rather the principle of life itself.

Hell, heaven, judgments, punishments, and rewards are merely states of the soul while the triad remains compact, rather than being permanent dwellings for the spirit once the triad is dismantled.

Michelle Adams45 said:"Everything that lives possesses a spirit, for it is the spirit that brings life" (John 6:63)
When we pass away, our spirit simply detaches from the physical body, because the spirit itself is immortal
At that point, we will all face judgment based on our actions
Those who have been saved—the spirits of the righteous—will "rise in the resurrection of life," whereas
those who lived in sin will undergo the "resurrection of judgment"
They will endure eternal torment in hell

The soul represents our emotions, our reasoning, our intellect...
Therefore, one arrives at the conclusion that a human being is a spirit, possessing a soul, while living within a physical body😁

Jesus is He !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let us enter into victory and breakthrough alongside Him!

No one can save you in your stead. Not even Chuck Norris, who is arguably a better choice than AC/DC when it comes to securing a victory.

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