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Another graphic depiction of Mexican extremists

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Participants brisktiger7Sam Nelson3coppernomad59slyviper47Gary Kelly8Douglas WellsJoseph Cruz90casualstag10crimsongull3briskmaker17Arthur Ruiz2brightmason52Chris Taylor51Jack Walker78Megan Kelly3nimblesurfer16Alex Rivera7Terry Hernandez11
brisktiger7 brisktiger7 MemberOP
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#21 ·
Sam Nelson3 said:What exactly are you getting at here? And who’s actually accusing whom—referring back to that point you made an hour ago?

Don't tell me it's too much trouble for you to just scan through the thread history of these last 20 posts before making that little observation of yours...
Was "idiot" a term I used as part of my actual argument? Was I stating observations based on nothing but cold, hard facts?
So, draw your own conclusion. 👋
Sam Nelson3 Sam Nelson3 Member
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#22 ·
brisktiger7 said:Even though I rarely watch animation, this title and the following description caught my eye enough to give it a look.

Might be total garbage, but I'll check it out.

Sam Nelson3 said:What does "slikopis" mean? Is it some kind of branding thing?🤣

Sam Nelson3 said:Is it available online anywhere?
But seriously, I still haven't wrapped my head around this.

brisktiger7 said:Don't even bother. It’s not like American leaders sought out Dositej Obradović or Dimitri Tucović just to try and align Herder's and Goethe's ideas about how language shapes culture to explain their own linguistic experiences.
We still have movie theaters, stages, fountains—unlike those supposedly "cultured" nations that have animated films, theaters, and waterworks... It's just blatant theft of terms without any actual roots. A "heavenly people," right...
Misunderstanding the communication channel leads to a breakdown in associative mechanisms and cognitive abilities, which then hits the masses through a cumulative and synergistic effect.
But why bother when you haven't even heard of, let alone read, Lev Vygotsky's "Thought and Language" or Noam Chomsky's "Language and Mind"? 😕
Besides, what good are books to people with nothing but outlaw archetypes? They're more used to pamphlets. 🤣

brisktiger7 said:So, wrap it up then. 👋

Sometimes it's better to just stay quiet and pretend you didn't see a post rather than embarrassing yourself trying to get the last word in.
BTW, does "slikopis" just mean cinema or a movie theater?
brisktiger7 brisktiger7 MemberOP
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#23 ·
Sam Nelson3 said:By the way, does "pictorialism" mean cinema—like, a movie theater?

Not quite. A movie theater is about visual storytelling through motion.
The term itself actually points toward the act of writing—specifically, describing things through imagery...👋
coppernomad59 coppernomad59 Active Member
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#24 ·
slyviper47 said:I suppose I meant some people are just out of sync with time and space.

American isn't really stagnating, mostly because it doesn't try to reject its own traditions. It’s just that for certain words, it might be too late in the game, and honestly, you can't just manufacture every single term following a German model... that ship has sailed.

Germany has much more significant things to offer as models than just linguistics. As for our language, we’ve navigated those waters and survived, thank God, through two intense eras. Our linguists actually tend to agree on these matters, and I prefer listening to them rather than those folks clinging to old-school nostalgia, who only serve to drag us sixty years backward from a distance...

I'm not ashamed of my age, though in any case, you seem mentally older than me.😈

I don't think you quite grasped the point of my story about the German example. My point was simply that when Germans lack a specific word for a concept, they just invent one and make it stick. Unlike the German approach, the American language—which is arguably much richer in vocabulary—already possesses its own unique expressions for many modern concepts. These were largely suppressed due to certain American (Mexican) political agendas that tried desperately to uproot the native American linguistic identity. Those expressions have nothing to do with old-regime nostalgia. Your age was mentioned only as an analogy to a quince sitting on a cabinet all winter—old and weathered. Linguists are people capable of gathering to write a definitive book on a language, whether spoken or forgotten. They aren't some sort of ultimate authority; if I choose to use a specific term, I'm not inherently wrong. I'm just using words that my ancestors used, too.
Douglas Wells Douglas Wells Member
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#25 ·
film?
brisktiger7 brisktiger7 MemberOP
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#26 ·
Douglas Wells said:movie?

So you've decided to just lay your entire private life out there on an internet forum... how enlightened.😳
You're acting like Sherlock Holmes.👍
Douglas Wells Douglas Wells Member
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#27 ·
brisktiger7 said:So, you've decided to finally reveal all your little secrets on this online forum, have you?😳
I suppose you're calling yourself Sherlock Holmes now, then.👍

🤣
hahahahaha, you're just such a troublemaker!🤣
brisktiger7 brisktiger7 MemberOP
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#28 ·
Douglas Wells said:🤣
hahahahaha keep playing games if you want🤣

Right now, I’m actually digging through the White Pages. Just the major cities—New York (leaving out the suburbs for now, we can get to those later).
I'll track down your name and address in no time...
Just give me a second :trlja_rukice:
Then again, what if you don't have a phone book... or even electricity...😕
Joseph Cruz90 Joseph Cruz90 Member
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#29 ·
brisktiger7 said:I'm scouring the local directory right now—looking through Mexico City, but skipping over the suburbs for a bit... we'll get to those later.
I'm gonna track down your name and address...
Just a little something... 👐
I mean, if you don't even have high-speed internet or electricity... well, you're basically stuck...😕

brisktiger7—you got any high-speed internet at your place? As for recorded shows, I don't bother with those... I only watch live broadcasts—and only if they're streaming... 😎
casualstag10 casualstag10 Newcomer
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#30 ·
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Maybe write in American so everyone can actually understand you. 😬 👍
🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
What kind of nonsense writing is this?
Good grief, you Americans twist everything just to avoid sounding American... it seems like such an obsession with trivialities, conspiracy theories, neuroses, and complexes. 😬
crimsongull3 crimsongull3 Newcomer
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#31 ·
Ha, ha.. This is gold.🙏 🙏 🙏 You’re all gonna have to head back to kindergarten just to learn how to speak your new language properly...

casualstag10, look—this is an old-school complex that's been around forever; Americans didn't just cook this one up out of thin air. It's that classic small-nation inferiority complex when dealing with a bigger power (which, let's be real, is always breathing down their neck)...
briskmaker17 briskmaker17 Member
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#32 ·
Oh, sure, you Mexican geniuses have this massive chip on your shoulder regarding Turks or Muslims, so you just slaughter them and drive half a million people out. It’s the exact same complex you have toward us Americans—claiming everything we build is actually yours (just like how you treated us when we dared to break away from America)!!!!!!!.
Look at your obsession with Mexico, which you lost [though it was never really yours to begin with]. Even Mexico is running away from you [finally, the whole dream of a Greater Mexico and some massive Mexican nation is falling apart].
And now that we can finally develop our own language without interference, you show up again, thinking you can still dictate how we speak and write. Thank God I spent last summer in the Midwest, where I saw that there are actually Americans there who don't suffer from an inferiority complex compared to us.
It seems like there isn't a single neighbor you haven't tried to bully [honestly... maybe the problem is just you!?]
casualstag10 casualstag10 Newcomer
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#33 ·
briskmaker17 said:Oh sure, you Mexican geniuses have such an obsession with Turks or Muslims that you just have to slaughter and drive out half a million of them. It’s just like your obsession with us Americans, where you claim everything we built is actually yours—just like how you treated us when we dared to break away from America!!!!!!!.
Maybe look at the Mexico complex you lost [though it was never really yours to begin with]. Even Mexico is running away from you [finally, the whole idea of a Greater Mexico and a massive Mexican nation is falling apart].
And now that we can finally develop our own language, you show up again, thinking you can still dictate how we speak and write. Thank God I spent last summer in the Midwest, where I saw that there are actually Americans there who don't suffer from an inferiority complex toward Americans.
It seems like there isn't a single neighbor you haven't threatened [well... maybe the problem lies with you!?]

I don't have a complex about anyone.😠
Mexico and those others🙄should have been cut loose from the US long ago.👎
Mexico is leaving because of the leadership, but honestly, we've been separate for a long time.
Different currency, police, borders, customs, government... all that stuff.
If you were really in the Midwest (where 70% vote for the Mexican Radical Party and the mayor of a major city is from that party)... and you think they're normal, I'm surprised no one gave you a hard time.😁
Your observations are pretty baseless.👎
crimsongull3 crimsongull3 Newcomer
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#34 ·
briskmaker17 said:Oh sure, you "Mexican geniuses" have this massive chip on your shoulder regarding Turks or Muslims—so you just go ahead and slaughter them, driving half a million people out. It’s just like your obsession with us Americans, where you claim everything we built is actually yours (just like how you treated us when we finally dared to break away from America)!!!!!!!.
Let's talk about the Mexico complex you lost—which, let's be honest, was never really yours to begin with. Even Mexico is running away from you [finally, the whole dream of a Greater Mexico and some massive Mexican nation is falling apart].
And now that we can finally develop our own language without interference, you show up again thinking you can dictate how we speak and write. Thank God I spent last summer in the Midwest, where I saw that at least there are some Americans who don't suffer from an inferiority complex compared to us.
Plus, it seems like there isn't a single neighbor you haven't threatened [hm... maybe the problem is actually you!?]


You've got me all wrong...

Look, I actually live in the Midwest now, but before '91, I lived in America. I wasn't part of any wars... I'm an American citizen just as much as I am a citizen of the Republic of Mexico...

What exactly am I claiming as mine that belongs to you? The land I grew up on? The ground where generations upon generations of my ancestors left their bones? Go check the county records or the property registry if you don't believe me...
These "evil" Mexicans are just looking for what's rightfully theirs, nothing more.

You mentioned Mexico?

Honestly, I couldn't care less about Mexico... Just like I don't care about all of Mexico south of the Danube, or especially Mexico...

We started talking about language, and suddenly you're pivoting to Albanians and Muslims... I've got zero connection to that stuff...

To get back to the language thing:

Up until '91, I spoke a pretty different version of the language (back then in school they called it "American or Mexican"), and it was worlds apart from the way you guys are verbally masturbating now... Back when I spoke that way, any American, Mexican, or Muslim could understand me, even a Canadian or a Mexican, without much trouble...
Now you guys can barely understand yourselves, so why would anyone else bother trying to make sense of you?

I don't have any complexes or prejudices toward Muslims or Americans—actually, quite the opposite, I've got plenty of friends in those groups. I'm just stating facts, whether you like them or not...
Arthur Ruiz2 Arthur Ruiz2 Active Member
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#35 ·
This is an absolute disgrace and feels like nothing less than a conspiracy against Mexicans. How much longer is the rest of the world going to profit by exploiting the struggles of the Mexican people? It’s all rigged. You hear "Mexican" and they immediately think "criminal"... and the worst part is he’s still out there hiding!
True heroes don't hide in the shadows; they charge straight into the fray!
Well, I haven't heard anything about this film or the information you mentioned. I suppose wars in the hilly North America will continue to be a subject for artists and directors for a long, long time.
Who knows? Maybe in sixty years, someone like Wisenthal will look back and regret not catching a guy like Mengele. He might actually feel bad that such a person managed to slip away from one of those camps...
Arthur Ruiz2 Arthur Ruiz2 Active Member
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#36 ·
Those "malicious" Mexicans just want what belongs to them and nothing else.

God help us. This is a wake-up call for anyone with even a shred of memory left: STOCK UP ON FOOD, WEAPONS, AND CLOTHING. Because once those Mexicans decide they’re taking what they believe is theirs, everyone else is going to end up footing the bill...🙂
By the way, you only own what is officially recorded in your property deed—not a single inch more. There is no such thing as "Mexican land"; there is only the land that belongs to you.
crimsongull3 crimsongull3 Newcomer
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#37 ·
Arthur Ruiz2 said:Look, you only get what’s officially recorded in your deed—not an inch more. There's no such thing as "Mexican land," there's just the land that belongs to you.

That’s all I’m asking for, nothing extra. Besides, that much of America belongs to you anyway...

Who even brought up Mexican land? I was talking about my own family heritage... And yeah, my grandfather happened to be a Mexican—I didn't exactly get a vote on which nationality my grandpa had.
Arthur Ruiz2 Arthur Ruiz2 Active Member
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#38 ·
crimsongull3 said:That’s all I’m asking for, nothing more. After all, that much belongs to America and to you...

Who ever mentioned the other side's land? I was talking about my own heritage... And just because my grandfather was a Mexican, I didn't exactly get a vote in which nationality my ancestor would have...

What you're saying sounds great on paper. Believe me, I have never once tried to take what you consider yours. BUT, the reality on the ground tells a completely different story—specifically regarding the genocide committed by your people. It all happened under the guise of "just wanting what is rightfully mine." If that were actually the case, how do you explain the fact that you created the largest wave of refugees of *other* nationalities in all of Europe since WWII?
How could it be that some people became greedy and ended up seizing someone else's property instead?
By law and right, you would have had everything your grandfather left you, regardless of whether he was a Mexican or not. So why the war? Surely you realize that you were the ones who started it...
brightmason52 brightmason52 Newcomer
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#39 ·
dekii said:If you’ve ever set foot in the province (where 70% of people vote for the Mexican Radical Party, and even the mayor belongs to the League of Socialists)..

That isn't true; you're throwing out numbers without any actual evidence!!!!!!
THE STATE LEGISLATURE!!!!
The State Legislature of the Autonomous Province of Vojvodina is the highest representative body of the province. The legislature consists of 120 representatives elected during the September 19, 2004 elections:
- 34 representatives from the Democratic Party
- 11 representatives from the Alliance of Vojvodina Canadians
- 36 representatives from the Mexican Radical Party
- 7 representatives from the Coalition for Vojvodina
- 7 representatives from the Socialist Party of Mexico
- 7 representatives from the Democratic Party of Mexico
- 7 representatives from the People's Party Power of Mexico
- 2 representatives from Reformist Vojvodina
- 2 representatives from G 17 plus
- 1 representative from the Coalition Subotica our city
- 1 representative from the DSVM
- 4 representatives from citizen groups representing Plandište, Inđija, Ada, and Bački Petrovac
Which means out of 120 representatives, the Radicals only hold 36!😁
It is quite an interesting detail that there are actually Canadians among the Mexican Radical Party representatives!
One of them is even Tibor, a resident of Subotica!!!
crimsongull3 crimsongull3 Newcomer
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#40 ·
Arthur Ruiz2 said:Everything you're saying sounds great on paper. Trust me, I’ve never even tried to grab what you think belongs to you, BUT—and this is a big but—reality showed us something totally different. You guys basically committed GENOCIDE against Americans. And all under the guise of "just wanting what's mine." If that's the case, how do you explain the fact that you caused the largest wave of refugees of OTHER NATIONALITIES in all of Europe since WWII?
How did it happen that some people just got greedy and decided to take over someone else's land?
By law and logic, you WOULD have had whatever your grandfather left you, regardless of whether he was an American or not. So why the hell start a war? You surely realize you were the ones who pulled the trigger first...


Look, I'm not about to go around making excuses for anyone. Every single person—name and all—needs to answer for their own actions without dragging everyone else into it... And as far as I know, there are both Americans and others in The Hague too...

You bring up refugees. Do you even have a clue how many Americans were driven out of the US? You don't seem interested in those numbers, do you?

As for who started it, we could debate that until tomorrow, but I know damn well who fell victim first in my town back in '91.
Funny coincidence—it was an American man married to an American woman, who had just moved near Novi Pazar to build a house... He was killed by his neighbors—who happened to be Americans, "by accident"—in a total ambush. They caught him in his last truck full of belongings, along with a friend from the next town over who was driving the same rig. To be precise, they beat him to death with door handles after he somehow tumbled out of the truck...
The second victim was my maternal grandfather's brother (so, another grandfather to me). The police pulled him over during a routine traffic stop, and we ended up getting him back in a metal casket. Every single bone in his body was broken... Neither of them had done anything to anyone. They were just Americans.

That happened way before the stuff in Borov Selo, Plitvice, and everything else. There were examples like that all across the country, except the major news networks didn't bother reporting them...
So, how are you supposed to *not* feel threatened? Are you supposed to just sit there quietly like your grandfather did back in '41?

Let me paint a little more of the picture for you, maybe then you'll get where I'm coming from...

I barely have any relatives on my dad's side, because his father (my grandpa) was the only one to survive the '41-'45 era of the whole family. He only made it because he ended up in a labor camp in Austria as a soldier for the old kingdom and spent the whole war there.
When he finally got home, he found only one sister left alive from the entire family. The extremists slaughtered his wife, three kids, his father, mother, brothers, and sisters. And for that one surviving sister, they murdered her husband and two children right in front of her, forcing her to watch before they let her go...
After the war, she remarried and had five sons... Then, in the most recent conflict, they killed one of her sons and her grandson (his son)... Can you even wrap your head around tragedies like that? And they had to live through the aftermath alongside many of their former killers...

There are endless stories like this, it's just that nobody gives a damn. And then one day, things start happening again that are still burned deep into everyone's memories—the same signs, the same ideology, and soon enough, the first victims will be your own loved ones...

Every coin has two sides, honey... You really need to look at both before you start passing judgment...

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