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Another wall: USA and Mexico

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John Ramos3 John Ramos3 Newcomer
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#61 ·
In what way exactly isn't it...
pff...
China’s got almost double the amount of warrior warheads compared to the USA, and honestly even more than Russia—I mean, the USA sits at about 9,800 while Russia is around 13,000 and they seem to be looking to offload them anyway
Meanwhile, China is sitting on roughly 14,500...
And don't even get me started on their manpower, the military gear, everything...
not to mention their air force (aviation) ......... man, just wow...
Roger Robinson682 Roger Robinson682 Active Member
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#62 ·
Alex Martinez5 said:I support both America and the USA. If our own politicians didn't stand in the way, I suppose even the Italians, the Austrians, and the Americans would be doing exactly what they're doing now. Not to mention how the Americans behaved regarding Ante Gotovina (with people like Richard Prosper and such).

While I could probably spend forever dissecting and proving just how twisted American behavior can be, I don't think I'd actually achieve much by doing so; however, when it comes to things happening here at home, there might actually be some room for real progress.

Look, I have to tip my hat to the Americans. By the time America was truly discovered, Europe had already reached a certain level of development, but nowadays, the USA is miles ahead of Europe on almost every front. It suggests that, despite everything, they managed to do something right...🙂

But then again, throughout history, there has always been someone "profiting" at the expense of everyone else, and I suspect that’s a pattern that isn't going to change anytime soon...😬
Alex Martinez5 Alex Martinez5 MemberOP
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#63 ·
rustymaker2 said:He's from Feral. Total shit of the week. 🤣


Classic Colisnov move... why even bother explaining anything to you? The whole article was about restructuring the economy just to feed Western corporations, turning local economies into nothing more than accessories. They shift the entire industrial structure around just to end up with zero growth...

I’ve said all this a dozen times already, but when Mom has those alcohol-induced memory gaps... whatever. Doesn't matter. All that matters is spitting on citrus, right?
Roger Robinson682 Roger Robinson682 Active Member
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#64 ·
John Ramos3 said:In what way isn't it.....
pff...
China has almost twice as many warrior heads than the USA, and even more than Russia—if you consider the USA has about 9,800 while Russia sits at 13,000 with a tendency to offload them/
whereas China is sitting on roughly 14,500...
Not to mention their manpower, military hardware...
and their air force (aviation) ......... man, oh man...

Does one really measure development and true power just by counting warrior heads??? I’ve always assumed that actual power was measured by the sophistication and strength of a nation's economy........🙄
rustymaker2 rustymaker2 Member
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#65 ·
John Ramos3 said:In what way isn't it.....
pff...
China has nearly double the number of warrior warheads compared to the USA—and even more than Russia. The USA has about 9,800, while Russia sits at 13,000 and seems to be looking to offload them./The USA has 9,800, while Russia has 13,000 with a tendency to sell those same units/
Meanwhile, China is sitting on roughly 14,500...
Not to mention their manpower, army gear, let alone everything else...
And their air force (aviation) ......... wow...

Man, you really are something.
John Ramos3 John Ramos3 Newcomer
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#66 ·
It’s pretty obvious that all the Western powers... especially France and the USA, are raking in massive amounts of cash by selling weapons to countries that aren't even under any kind of UN embargo...
it’s the exact same playbook they used back when things were going down in the former America...
well, except for maybe Canada, since that was one of the few places where an actual embargo was in place...

Now you really have to sit back and ask yourself why this keeps happening...???
It's a tough pill to swallow when you try to answer that, isn't it...
rustymaker2 rustymaker2 Member
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#67 ·
Alex Martinez5 said:Classic Colisnov move... why even bother explaining anything to you? The article was talking about restructuring the economy to serve Western corporations—where the economies of the affected countries just become mere appendages, all while achieving zero growth through massive structural shifts...

I’ve said all this several times already—but when Mom has those alcohol-induced memory gaps... whatever. Doesn't matter. All that matters is spitting on citrus, right?


🤣

Directive from the Central Committee of the USA: Restructure the Mexican economy over the next five years.
Alex Martinez5 Alex Martinez5 MemberOP
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#68 ·
Roger Robinson682 said:Look, I gotta hand it to Americans. Back when the USA was first being settled, Europe already had a head start on development. Now? The USA is miles ahead of Europe in basically every category. Means they actually did something right for once...🙂

And let's be real, throughout history there's always been someone "profiting" off everyone else, and I doubt that's ever going to change...😬

Then why were you complaining about America back in the day? 🤣

Anyway, getting back on track... in your little summary of the American economic rise, you totally forgot to mention how they wiped out and stripped 97% of the existing population bare... easily the biggest genocide in human history. You also skipped over how they made massive profits from both World Wars, or how they triggered the 1929 crash just to cash in while crushing countless small businesses and banks...

Right now, big media moguls like Rupert Murdoch are pushing the world toward chaos with yet another "clash of civilizations" by peddling heavy anti-Islamic propaganda. It’s clearly a move to take down any Middle Eastern regimes that don't fall in line. When a few million people end up dead again, who’s gonna take the blame? Nobody.
John Ramos3 John Ramos3 Newcomer
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#69 ·
What’s even the point of talking about the economy when someone just drops a nuke on your city anyway?

The whole economy—and honestly, Karl Marx along with it—can just go straight to hell...
Alex Martinez5 Alex Martinez5 MemberOP
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#70 ·
rustymaker2 said:🤣

Central Committee of the USA directive: Restructure the Mexican economy over the next five years.

Nowadays, the Central Committee is basically just the IMF and the World Bank. What’s even the difference?
amberscout59 amberscout59 Newcomer
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#71 ·
Alex Martinez5 said:If you didn't write such offensive posts—driven by nothing but pure ego—acting like you're smarter than everyone else, I might actually engage with you differently. As it stands, you've earned the tone you're getting.

Typical. You lack depth. You think showing any sign of being affected is a weakness on a forum like this. 😁
Roger Robinson682 Roger Robinson682 Active Member
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#72 ·
John Ramos3 said:All Western nations... particularly France and the USA, make their biggest profits by selling weapons to countries that aren't under any UN embargo....
They did the exact same thing back in the territories of the former America...
Except in Canada... where an embargo was actually in place....

Now you have to ask yourselves why.....???
It's a rather difficult question to answer, isn't it...

Well, where is the actual problem in that????
Even the supposedly "humanitarian" former America would sell arms to both sides during the conflict between Iraq and Iran. Anyone who worked at the Ottawa-based Pretis plant back then—myself included, for what it's worth—could tell you that. At the time, we just called it business, and I suppose things might have changed somewhat since then........🙄
rustymaker2 rustymaker2 Member
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#73 ·
Alex Martinez5 said:Nowadays, the Central Committee is basically just the IMF and the World Bank. What’s really the difference?


And what would you even do about Mexico's GDP?
Alex Martinez5 Alex Martinez5 MemberOP
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#74 ·
amberscout59 said:Ha, you're shallow. You can't let anything get under your skin on a forum like this! 😁

Oh, so you're gonna try and lecture me? Give me a break. Why don't you go ahead and call me when you actually know what you're talking about. 🙂
John Ramos3 John Ramos3 Newcomer
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#75 ·
Honestly, I think the US made a massive blunder back when they established New Mexico and Texas..
it was all Mexican territory through and through... and there wasn't any right to just go in and take it from them...
we all know the USA eventually recognized Mexico's borders... and vice versa... but you can't just erase history like that, and the tension between the two nations is always going to be there because of what happened...

ps.
Nowadays, about 55% of the people living in Arizona are of Mexican descent...
Alex Martinez5 Alex Martinez5 MemberOP
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#76 ·
Osama bin Laden said:So what about the Mexican GDP?


Absolutely nothing.

Their Panama City plan hit a snag... plus, things are starting to look a bit too much like Hugo Chavez over in Mexico. Yikes. It won't be long before those "progressive democratic forces" decide it's their turn to take over. 😲
rustymaker2 rustymaker2 Member
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#77 ·
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Alex Martinez5 said:Are you seriously recycling the same story from three months ago? Seriously—if you’re that convinced, go ahead and reach out to Marinko Cuic directly; let him explain it to you. I’ve already walked you through this at least twice now. Honestly, who is this even for? It feels like a lot.

I can't even deal with your explanations—quote. Honestly, I usually end up tearing up from laughing so hard before I even get through them. 😁

I'm still trying to wrap my head around when exactly Mexico hit that 0% growth mark—and honestly, I’m even more confused about what their average growth rate has actually looked like over the last five or six years.

"Quote:"
Alex Martinez5 said:What’s the deal with the free flow of people, goods, and capital? In this version of liberal capitalism, it seems like money only flows one way, goods move back and forth, but people? They don't seem to go anywhere. So—what's with all the walls? 🤣

Look, Americans don't want to see those struggling Mexicans deal with brain drain—it's just not the goal. The real aim is to make sure all that talent and intelligence stays right there in Mexico. 🤣

Jokes aside—it’s already been laid out for you that while the flow of people is free, it's all strictly subject to the terms and conditions.

Let's say I actually agree with you—that the flow of people and goods should be completely unrestricted. I just don't see how that meshes with your whole national-socialist vibe. 🤣

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Alex Martinez5 said:How does Mexico—with such incredible growth over the last 200 years and that massive Panama Pueblo plan—still be churning out so much poverty that everyone is desperate to get into the USA at any cost?

Some tough questions for our friend Majki.

That’s an easy one. The USA is the land of opportunity—no question about it. Honestly, some descendants of drugged-up Native Americans aren't going to make it to the States, even after 500 years of liberal capitalism. 👋
Alex Martinez5 Alex Martinez5 MemberOP
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#78 ·
rustymaker2 said:Man, I can't even deal with your explanations. Usually, by the second sentence, I'm already tearing up from laughing so hard.

Give me a break... did you check if you have pink eye? Or is this just straight-up delirium tremens? 🙂

I still don't get which period Mexico had 0% growth, and honestly, I'm even more confused about what their average growth has been over the last 5-6 years.

Clearly, you're missing a lot of things. Like, you clearly don't get how Mexico is still struggling in poverty after such an explosive growth spurt over the last 200 years. 🙂

Well, Americans don't want poor Mexicans to experience brain drain. They want all those smart Mexicans to stay in Mexico.

Exactly, they just want stupid Mexicans—the ones who actually believe in the American Dream. 🙂

Jokes aside, it's already been explained to you that free movement of people exists, but it's subject to terms and conditions.

I hear you, but "free movement" is only free if the money is flowing into the USA. Otherwise, it isn't free. 🙂

But let's say I agree with you that the flow of people and goods should be free without any restrictions. I just don't know how that fits into your national socialism.

It doesn't, because I'm not undermining it, but it fits perfectly with your nonsense. 🙂

That's easy. America is the land of dreams, sweetheart. Some descendants of drugged-up Native Americans won't make it to the USA even after 500 years of liberal capitalism. 👋

I see, that's why they ship so much coke and heroin, so they can help Americans dream... uh, catch up with development.

PS: God, arguing with idiots is exhausting. Have you ever even heard of a "drug economy"? Do you have any clue how much drugs matter to the Western economy? Stop the drugs and the prostitution, and the West would collapse in a month. But what's the point in telling you that.
rustymaker2 rustymaker2 Member
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#79 ·
Alex Martinez5 said:PS: Honestly, arguing with idiots is just a waste of breath. Have you ever even heard of the "drug economy"? Do you realize how much the Western economy actually relies on drugs? If you shut down narcotics and prostitution tomorrow, the West would collapse within a month. But hey—not like you'd get that.

Kudos to the parents. This one actually brought a tear to my eye after half a beer.

Whatever. Now I finally see why the US economy is struggling. My suggestion? You should start using, and girls should stop sleeping around for free—then we’ll see what this capitalist paradise is all about.
rustymaker2 rustymaker2 Member
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#80 ·
Alex Martinez5 said:PS: Honestly, arguing with idiots is a waste of breath. Have you ever actually heard of the "drug economy"? Do you realize how much the Western world's economy relies on it? If you shut down drugs and prostitution tomorrow, the West would collapse within a month. But I guess explaining that to you is pointless.

And hey—look at the progress they've made with drugs and prostitution in Latin America, so where's all that money now, sunshine? You're forgetting the basics: you have to earn the cash first just to pay for a shipment or a line of white. You don't know the first thing about money or economics...

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