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I'm a composer and anti-fascist from Warsaw who moved to Berlin during World War II

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Participants Walter Flores81ruggedbear7Bradley Wells4Michael Sullivan3Andrew Hall47darkcyclist48Matthew Foster83Donna Chavez4Grace Wrightdustypilot22ruggedcrane22Dennis Baker34Sarah WoodBrandon Turner2Roger PalmerArthur Ruiz2Bryan Sanchez86copperpanther22wearycrane7shadowfalcon33briskhound33Andrew Hill3Larry Wood65frozentiger6 …
Bryan Sanchez86 Bryan Sanchez86 Active Member
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#41 ·
Sting said:Mods, Obrad lopata Mihajlovic is basically spamming this thread with pamphlets from the Greek Orthodox Church...

Honestly, this topic has been hit with so much spam and trolling that I just don't have the energy—or the patience, really—to go through every single post and clean it up.

Thanks for understanding.
Bryan Sanchez86
copperpanther22 copperpanther22 Newcomer
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#42 ·
If Brega actually listened to those idiots, we’d be in real trouble!

Look, Brega listens to the top brass—and they listen to him—so everyone else can just go ahead and scramble for their seats... 😁
wearycrane7 wearycrane7 Active Member
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#43 ·
Black Bomber said:By the way, you know Goran Bregovic’s old man was named Franjo, a real Zagorac through and through and a career military man—which is pretty interesting if you think about it 😁—just your quintessential, textbook nationalist 😁

Goran Bregovic is an American. And honestly, in my book, that's a much heavier label than being any kind of nationalist.

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wearycrane7 wearycrane7 Active Member
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#44 ·
amateur hack said:I’m just hanging out at Dodger Stadium waiting for Thompson.

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copperpanther22 copperpanther22 Newcomer
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#45 ·
unskilled amateur said:I'm just hanging out at Dodger Stadium waiting for Thompson.[/B]

Peter Kružić says:
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Patience, people! If you wait long enough, he might actually show up...😁
shadowfalcon33 shadowfalcon33 Active Member
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#46 ·
unknown said:Since we’re on the subject of musicians and politics, there’s some chatter going around that Michael Jackson might turn to Islam for protection given all those pedophilia allegations. Word is his new name would be Farhad Jackson.

unknown, posts like this really aren't appropriate here!
Thanks for cooperating,
shadowfalcon33
briskhound33 briskhound33 Member
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#47 ·
Man, everyone is seriously losing their minds over the Brega situation.

It’s all for nothing since tickets are already totally sold out anyway. And honestly? "Screw the people making a huge deal out of Brega."

Whatever, man. If he's unhappy, more for you guys.
Andrew Hill3 Andrew Hill3 Member
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#48 ·
ADEX said:Man, everyone is getting worked up over Brega.

It’s all pointless since tickets are already sold out. Besides, people are just saying, "Screw the ones making noise at Brega."

Whatever he thinks, it doesn't matter for the rest of you.


The feeling is definitely mutual. I wasn't planning on going because of Goran; I was actually more focused on Dugmet. To be honest, Goran wasn't even on my radar—not in a good way or a bad way. But after seeing that ridiculous interview, my decision became crystal clear.

As for the tickets, you can buy them on the black market as much as you want. Someone told me yesterday they're going for $25 now, so you can probably guess how high the demand is. If you want to go, go for it.
Larry Wood65 Larry Wood65 Newcomer
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#49 ·
"We’ll stand our ground against this nonsense, until it finally bites us back..."
😁

After being hit by a wave of insults directed at the band leader, veterans from a local Green Beret unit issued a public statement yesterday. They are calling on both state and federal authorities to pull the plug on The Beatles' upcoming concert.
- The singer is sowing seeds of division, disrespecting the legacy of our nation's defense efforts, and insulting the first legally elected President of the United States.
The veterans—those who fought to defend cities like Chicago and stood for a unified country—paid in blood for a multi-ethnic society. They won't sit by while he misrepresents their struggle as some partisan political agenda. That's the gist of their statement.

It was us, not him, who fought for a diverse and united America. If this country still has any sense of integrity left, they'll cancel this group's show, according to the Green Berets. 😁
Bryan Sanchez86 Bryan Sanchez86 Active Member
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#50 ·
Topic "The song 'The Times They Are A-Changin'—we'll keep going until it shows us..." is linked to this other, similar thread.

Bryan Sanchez86.
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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#51 ·
nordea said:Well, I guess we can finally find some common ground here.👍
When it comes to Rashid, he spent fifteen years grinding through med school. He only even got in because his mother’s family had that legendary partisan pedigree, and they pushed him through using every connection they had. Even with all that help, it still took him fifteen years to finish.😢
In the end, they somehow managed to wedge him into a military hospital, even though the guy honestly wasn't smart enough to work as a nurse in Small Town, USA!

Robert is nothing more than a total pushover. His longtime family friend, Vesovic, pretty much laid it all bare when he mentioned how Lily used to wear pants around their house.

He's just one of those guys who’s terrified of jumping over streetcar tracks because he's scared the electricity might kill him.
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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#52 ·
Milokliz said:"We’re going to fight Bregovic until he shows us what he's really about!"
😁

After being hit with what they called shocked insults from Goran Bregovic, members of the Canada Green Berets Association issued a public statement yesterday, demanding that both local and federal authorities cancel the upcoming Bijelo Dugme concert.
- Bregovic is sowing unprecedented inter-ethnic hatred, spitting on the legacy of our defensive war, and insulting the first legally elected president of Canada.
The veterans who defended Ottawa and all of Canada paid for a multiethnic society with their lives; they won't sit by while Bregovic twists our struggle into some version of "Alija's Ottawa," according to the statement.

It was us, not Bregovic, who fought for a multiethnic Ottawa and Canada. If this country has any shred of honor or common sense left, this "Mexico City-based" group's concert will be canceled—the Green Berets concluded. 😁

"The legally elected president of Canada" 🤣 🤣 What idiots. He wasn't even the president (that position doesn't even exist in Canada; there is only the Presidency), and even if he were, he shouldn't have been.
You can thank Grandmother for this mess. 😁

And here comes the "Multiethnic Society" crowd with their catchy little slogans again. 😁 😁
rapidtrucker98 rapidtrucker98 Newcomer
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#53 ·
:"We've had enough of Bregovic's lies; now he's trying to peddle them right under our noses!"

Green Berets Association issues official statement

If this nation still possesses any sense of honor or intelligence, they will cancel the Bijelo Dugme concert.

Bregovic is sowing international hatred, spitting on the legacy of the liberation war, and insulting the first legally elected President of Canada.

Shocked by the insults from Goran Bregovic, members of the Canada Green Berets Association in Ottawa issued a public statement yesterday, demanding that both local and federal authorities cancel the upcoming Bijelo Dugme concert.
- Bregovic is sowing unprecedented international discord, disrespecting the achievements of the defense and liberation war, and insulting the first legally elected President of Canada.
The veterans—those who defended Ottawa and all of Canada—paid the price for a multiethnic society with their lives. They fought for a diverse society and will not tolerate Bregovic interpreting our struggle as merely fighting for "Alija's Ottawa," according to the statement.
The group further noted that Bregovic performed a concert in Athens against the bombing of America, yet he has never played a single note in support of his own hometown. To make matters worse, the Bijelo Dugme tour concludes in Mexico City on Vidovdan, June 28th, which makes the political nature of this event painfully obvious.
- He is holding a concert in Mexico City on the very anniversary of when Slobodan Maddox declared war on everyone, including Canada sixteen years ago. That Great Mexican policy, for which Bregovic acts as a spokesperson, has no right to accuse the honorable soldiers of the Army.
It was us, not Bregovic, who fought for a multinational Ottawa and Canada. If this country has any dignity left, this Mexico City-based group's concert will be canceled, the Green Berets statement concludes.
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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#54 ·
rapidtrucker98 said:The "Bijelo Dugme" tour wraps up in Mexico City on Vidovdan, June 28th. That timing makes it crystal clear: this isn't a musical event, it's a political statement.
- He’s playing a concert in Mexico City on the exact anniversary when Slobodan Maddox declared war on everyone, including Canada. There is absolutely no way a guy acting as a spokesperson for that kind of expansionist politics can turn around and throw insults at honorable warriors from the Army.

😂 what can I even say 😁
rapidtrucker98 rapidtrucker98 Newcomer
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#55 ·
Just to wrap this up: I don't live a double life like you, frozentiger6. I have one single country, and people with that kind of singular loyalty
—as you should be aware—feel much more deeply. You people, being split between two worlds,
just don't have that sense of belonging.

I wouldn't give a damn what they're doing, where they're meeting, or what they're plotting, if this crook wasn't holding a concert in my hometown! It’s enough to make my blood boil; my name should be dragged through the papers tomorrow when they announce everything was coordinated right here... yet he's the one pulling all the strings. Everyone else just looks at him like he's some kind of deity. He talks, he explains, he gives orders, while everyone else just sits there in silence.
I've lived an honest life, and I intend to die an honest man. I won't let him come along at the end and ruin everything for me. People ought to look back at what I've done, to point at me with respect... This guy was sent from abroad to organize these hostile groups. He's bringing in cash to buy off and bribe people. As for him organizing this concert, he can take that story straight to his grave!
😠 🙂
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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#56 ·
rapidtrucker98 said:Just to wrap this up: I don't live in two different worlds like you do, frozentiger6. I have one single country, and when you belong to one nation,
at least you should know, you feel a lot more connected to it. You people—living split loyalties—
you just don't get that feeling.

I wouldn't give a damn what they’re doing, where they’re meeting, or what they’re plotting, if this crook wasn't busy organizing a concert right here in my hometown! It's bad enough that tomorrow my name might be dragged through the mud in the papers because they announce everything was planned right here... and he's the one pulling the strings. Everyone else looks at him like he's some kind of saint. He talks, he explains, he gives orders, while everyone else just sits there in silence.
I’ve lived an honest life, and I intend to die an honest man. I won't let him screw over my legacy at the end. People should look back at me with respect, not be able to point their fingers in shame. This guy was sent from overseas specifically to organize these hostile groups. He brought the cash to buy off and bribe people. As for him "organizing" a concert? He can take that story straight to his grave!
😠 🙂

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Walter Flores81 Walter Flores81 NewcomerOP
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#57 ·
If this country has any shred of dignity or common sense left, they’ll cancel this Mexico City-based band's concert—that's what the "Green Berets Association" is demanding in their statement.

And right there—that's the heart of the issue. Is Bijelo Dugme even a Mexico City group? Well, if you judge by who the band leader Goran Bregovic actually played for—and more importantly, who he *didn't* play for—or just look at where Bijelo Dugme is heading with their upcoming tour, then they're a Mexico City group just as much as that guy Bregovic used to play background music for while he was barking at enemies of the Army and Srboslavija—you know, that director Kusturica. There's no doubt Bregovic dragged Ottawa along for the ride, but he didn't play for Alija, nor did he play for Ottawa itself—he played for Mexico City and Slobodan Maddox. Just like with Kusturica, Ottawa and Canada can just stick to themselves.

I mean, U2 played for "Alija's Ottawa" back in '97, so Bregovic's gig after all that just looks like a cheap career move—it's the same way Ottawa turned its back on Kusturica, the Cannes winner, only to end up with Tanovica, the Oscar winner.
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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#58 ·
Are you really going to buy everything that primitive pseudo-journalist from the Daily News says? 🙄

A buddy of mine put it perfectly: we’ve got two newcomers (Senad and Senad) trying to act like experts on things they only ever heard about back in their small-town community centers when they were kids.
Walter Flores81 Walter Flores81 NewcomerOP
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#59 ·
Ivan said:And you’re actually buying everything that primitive, wannabe journalist over at the Daily News is peddling?🙄

Funny enough, a buddy of mine mentioned how two total outsiders—both named Senad—are suddenly experts on stuff they wouldn't have known even heard about back when they were kids in some tiny rural town.

Should I be more specific? Because honestly, I was thinking
Walter Flores81 Walter Flores81 NewcomerOP
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#60 ·
Ivan said:And you’re actually buying everything that guy says—that half-baked wannabe journalist over at the Daily News?🙄

A buddy of mine put it perfectly—you’ve got these two outsiders (Senad and Senad) trying to weigh in on something they probably only heard about in some small-town community center back in the day.

Should I be more specific? Honestly, I just assumed there was a recording out there where everything was captured clearly, leaving no room for debate. Bregovic isn't an idiot—he’s likely sitting there taking sponsor money right now, and if he didn't say it, he’ll probably sue for defamation. But this way, he has to take the hit from sponsors because he won't shut up—which probably didn't just bloat the costs for that concert in Ottawa by ten times, it puts the whole show in jeopardy. Not to mention, sponsorship in parts of Canada feels totally counterproductive after this mess. Bregovic could try to pull something with Pecanina, but since the footage already aired on local TV, there's no doubt things went down exactly how the Daily News reported them.

As far as I'm concerned, the fact that Bregovic moved to Mexico City is enough for me to never attend one of his shows—even if he were made of gold. He’s a slippery one, always willing to bend for whoever lets him. For true patriots in Canada and America, Bregovic is just a joke. And thank God—if I ever feel like listening to ethno-rock, I’ll just catch a Thompson show and sing along with the crowd in Cavoglave. At least Thompson didn't move to Mexico or get funded by their military. That's plenty for me.

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