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Gerald Young4 Gerald Young4 MemberOP
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#1 ·
I find myself wondering why, in your estimation, there seems to be such a growing fascination with alternative medical practices lately... What is it that draws people toward them, and if you've personally ventured down those paths, what were the motivations behind your own choices?
Rebecca Cox2 Rebecca Cox2 Active Member
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#2 ·
People are increasingly gravitating toward alternative medicine because practitioners often tell them exactly what they want to hear. Given how powerful the placebo effect can be—and considering that most ailments either resolve on their own or occur in cyclical phases (like chronic back pain)—it’s easy to see why many people become convinced a specific treatment actually worked.

My "free-spirited" wife suffers from migraines. She’s tried every herbal tea and concoction under the sun, genuinely believing she could conquer them without relying on pharmaceutical pills, but it just didn't work. A little tea might take the edge off, but let’s be honest: a standard over-the-counter tablet is much more effective and reliable...
gentlecanyon92 gentlecanyon92 Active Member
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#3 ·
It all depends on what kind of alternative medicine you're talking about...
Sure, there are frauds out there, but there are also people who clearly and successfully help patients.
hiddenviper9 hiddenviper9 Active Member
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#4 ·
With 17 years spent successfully helping people heal and two books under my belt—one of which has been translated into Dutch and German—I feel I've earned the right to weigh in on the world of alternative medicine. Doesn't experience count for something?

I'm not going to write anything new here. Instead, I'll just share a passage from my first book.
This might run a little long, but that won't bother anyone who actually cares. If you aren't interested in reading, then why bother?

The connection between doctors, biotherapists, and crystals. Is there truly a link there?

I've had a few people reach out to me lately asking whether they should go to a medical doctor or an alternative bio-therapist to manage their health. It’s a tough call, isn't it?
My answer was, and will remain, this:
It’s always best to take healing into your own hands. Isn't that the ultimate goal?

Look, if you absolutely have to pick one of these options, here’s my suggestion:
If you can, try to find a doctor who prioritizes listening over prescribing. Isn't it better to be healed by understanding rather than just a pill?

As far as I'm concerned, quite a few of my closest friends and colleagues have actually been doctors.
Just like me, everyone else should respect their titles and the work they put in. They earned those credentials through years of intense study and a lot of personal sacrifice, both during school and often long after. Don't you think?
Besides that, most of their calls are humanitarian in nature. Of course, you still run into some people with a negative spirit, but luckily for the rest of us, they're definitely in the minority.

Sure, when alternative bio-therapists step in to help people manage their health—even if they don't work for everyone—it creates a bit of a gap, doesn't it?
When people find themselves stuck in a dilemma, who do they actually turn to?

Lately, since the 90s, I’ve noticed a shift in certain magazines. It seems like they’re starting to build up these alternative figures while throwing shade at mainstream medicine. Isn't that interesting?
A huge mistake!
At the end of the day, isn't the patient usually the one most responsible for their own health? It often comes down to a simple lack of respect for both the body and mental balance.
Be honest—how many times have you gone to the doctor and made up some random illness just to snag a few days off work?

Once you finally realize that Conscious Cosmic Energy actually exists, won't everything about why we get sick suddenly make sense?
By dwelling on those fabrications, you’ve essentially programmed your emotional energy center to store a manufactured illness. Once you shut down your connection to cosmic energy, isn't it only natural that you'd actually fall sick?

Going back to the doctor might not have helped if they approached you with intense bioenergetic strength, yet you stubbornly kept your sensors closed? What if you were unintentionally blocking those energy impulses from entering your body through your chakras?

In the middle of a panic attack, you turn to a bio-therapist who—whether they realize it or not—triggers specific energy particles above your chakras. This ramps up your vibrational frequency, essentially flipping the switch on your internal sensors and letting a surge of cosmic energy flood in. Isn't that something?
With the help of cosmic energy, your own internal energy finally stops fighting you, and then—poof—a "miracle" happens. You’re healed.
Some bio-therapists you might turn to for help—certainly not all of them—will claim they’re "miracle workers." They'll tell you they are some kind of bioenergetic Source capable of curing absolutely everything. Can you imagine?

I’ve worked as a bio-therapist myself, but if there's one thing I tell anyone seeking my help, it's this: I am merely a conduit for cosmic energy. I don't claim to be the source of that power, just the channel through which it flows. Isn't it better to view it that way?

If you decide to be completely honest with your doctor, why not just let go and trust the process? You might be surprised by how much better things turn out when you truly open up.
Doctors should really strive to approach patients with genuine humanity. If they see you as a person first, don't they become conduits for cosmic energy, whether they believe in it or not?

Looking back at everything we've discussed, isn't it clear that the person asking for help is actually the one with the most power to change things?
If you actually took the time to dig into this book, wouldn't you have realized that staying healthy requires more than luck? It’s about making a conscious connection with cosmic energy by finally opening up your own sensors.

To make this work, you have to decide who will act as the conduit for your energetic connection:
- a doctor, a bio-therapist, or a crystal.

My suggestion? Go with the crystal under a doctor's supervision, and if things don't improve, then look into a solid bio-therapist.

THE CRYSTAL AS A MEDICAL TOOL

I believe I’ve been clear enough in my previous posts regarding how crystals serve as conduits for cosmic energy, and how the aura and chakras play their respective parts.

If we "connect" cosmic energy, crystals, the aura, and the chakras, we arrive at this conclusion:
• Crystals accelerate the transfer of cosmic energy—in the form of energetic impulses—to every particle within the aura field and chakra vortex, allowing those particles to vibrate harmoniously once they enter the human body.

Again, it is a powerful thing to realize that a person can help themselves quite a bit when facing health issues.
But first, one must know:
- Are they actually sick, and if so, what is the cause?

Unfortunately, a major issue people face is that pain often manifests in one part of the body while the actual ailment is located somewhere else entirely.
In those instances, the pain is merely referred.

It’s also possible for someone to simply *think* they are ill.
That doesn't mean the pain isn't real, but sometimes physical pain isn't an indicator of an organ being diseased.
However, that’s a different story, which I'll be covering in my upcoming book: CRYSTAL VOL. II (***)

Once a person knows exactly what they are dealing with—meaning they have solid medical evidence from scans or lab results—even if they discover they have a serious or life-threatening illness, it still doesn't mean they are too sick to recover.
(So, if you are facing a heavy diagnosis: ALWAYS maintain the mindset that healing is possible).

When you identify the specific organ involved, it becomes much easier to determine which chakra corresponds to that area.

If multiple organs are affected, you need to prioritize them based on severity and map them to their respective chakras.

I should mention that in the first edition of CRYSTAL VOL. I, I stated:
- Someone attempting self-healing needs to categorize the severity of the illness and the order in which organs are treated.

- They also need to establish a realistic timeline for recovery for each organ.

- Any person with average intelligence should be able to sense the "weight" or gravity of various organ ailments.

- Severe inflammation won't just vanish overnight...

Today, after eight years of research, I know for certain:
- Trying to pick and choose which illness to treat first or deciding the recovery timeline is UNNECESSARY (and sometimes even counterproductive). Believe it or not, the patient's Spirit determines what gets treated first, how long it takes, and ultimately, whether the healing occurs.

Therefore, while a person can be aware of the seriousness of their condition, they MUST NOT think they are incurably ill.

Just remember!
- ALL TYPES OF ILLNESS CAN BE HEALED THROUGH MEDITATION! (provided the illness isn't of karmic origin).
I'll dive deeper into karmic inheritance in CRYSTAL VOL. II.

Also, keep in mind that during meditation, you might intuitively "receive" the realization that your health status is driven by autosuggestion.

If that happens, you MUST accept that information and shift toward positive thinking:
- I AM HEALTHY, AND I WANT EVERY CELL IN MY BODY TO BE HEALTHY!
Repeat this thought whenever negative thoughts creep in and try to convince you that you are sick.
By doing this, you "open your mind"—essentially unblocking the sensor that receives energy, which the body's internal SYSTEM converts into individual bioenergy.
I know it's hard, but try using this method to overcome the fear of sickness and death.

Perhaps you've seen it on the news or heard stories of people who were once paralyzed suddenly walking again, or the blind regaining sight, or the terminally ill recovering.
This all took place right in front of a healer.
What actually happened there?
The energy radiating from and around the healer was so intense that it essentially unblocked the sensors in those people. This allowed bioenergy to act as a secondary supplement, clearing nerve blockages that were preventing paralyzed organs from receiving necessary motor signals.
Pretty straightforward, isn't it?

So, if someone wants to achieve health or practice self-healing, I suggest they try meditating alongside an "energy tool"—specifically, a natural quartz crystal.

To reiterate, your first step is to figure out exactly what you're dealing with.
With today's medical technology, a doctor will always be your most reliable source for a proper diagnosis.

That said, if you can connect with a reputable expert in alternative healing, I’d suggest consulting them as well.

Once you have a specific diagnosis, look up which endocrine gland is linked to that condition.

Once you know that, it shouldn't be too hard (based on the chakra overview mentioned earlier) to determine which chakra corresponds to that gland.

From there, try treating yourself through meditation-based self-healing.

But let's be clear here.

You still need to keep a doctor in your life.
Kate Diaz Kate Diaz Member
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#5 ·
Rebecca Cox2 said:People are increasingly turning toward alternative medicine because practitioners tell them exactly what they want to hear. Since the placebo effect is quite potent and most ailments are either self-limiting—resolving on their own without any intervention—or occur in cyclical phases (like chronic back pain), many individuals become convinced that the treatment was the actual cause of their recovery...

I agree with you entirely—it is simply human nature to gravitate toward ideas that resonate with our desires and provide the comfort we crave. It has always been this way, and it likely always will be.

However, there is another side to this coin. There is a profound sense of disillusionment regarding conventional medicine and mainstream science. People were led to believe, or perhaps they convinced themselves, that science could answer every conceivable question and map the entire universe, and that one day, medicine would eventually cure every disease on Earth. To put it bluntly, people expected science to usher them into the "gates of paradise." They waited and waited, but those gates never opened. Now, it is difficult to explain to them that science isn't omnipotent, nor will medicine ever hold the cure for every single malady.

Left feeling let down and facing a lack of medical "silver bullets," they turn to anything that offers even a glimmer of hope. Alternative practices offer that solace. These methods promise to heal everything, providing a sense of renewed possibility that conventional medicine seemingly cannot match. In most cases, these promises are deceptive, but does it matter? To a patient who feels abandoned by traditional medicine, even a lie can feel like a lifeline.

Beyond offering a sense of hope—as opposed to the often rigid, clinical, and blunt diagnoses characteristic of modern medicine—there is also the allure of the "miracle." Humans have been drawn to the idea of miracles since the dawn of time. Because conventional medicine has largely stripped away mystery through demystification, the only remaining sense of wonder is found in the mystical and secretive realms of alternative therapies. By promising a "miraculous" cure or claiming divine inspiration, alternative medicine attracts a dedicated following.

Humanity has always been fascinated by wonders, and we have always followed those who claim to perform them. It is hardly surprising, then, that alternative medicine maintains such a loyal base of supporters.

The fundamental issue, however, is that in the vast majority of these instances, we aren't actually witnessing miracles; we are witnessing grand deceptions, illusions, and outright fabrications.
Kate Diaz Kate Diaz Member
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#6 ·
gentlecanyon92 said:It really all depends on which specific branch of alternative medicine we're discussing.
Of course, there are charlatans out there, but you also have to acknowledge the people who clearly and effectively make a positive difference.

For instance?
hiddenviper9 hiddenviper9 Active Member
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#7 ·
For instance, Dean Kraft
feralharbor2 feralharbor2 Member
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#8 ·
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Kate Diaz Kate Diaz Member
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#9 ·
For instance, Harry Houdini, also known as Ehrich Weiss
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houdini

Or take someone like James Randi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi

By the way, hiddenviper9—I honestly have no idea who takes you seriously. You’ve basically set a new gold standard for nonsense on this forum with that legendary claim about transcendental life existing on the planet Quard in the Andromeda Galaxy.😁
gentlecanyon92 gentlecanyon92 Active Member
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#10 ·
Kate Diaz said:Give me an example.

bioenergetic practitioners
nimblecobra79 nimblecobra79 Member
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#11 ·
hiddenviper9, what about sin?

I don't think just talking—or "thinking"—is enough (those aren't even deep thoughts, they're just surface level)—I'm healthy,

because cells, just like you (or anyone else), know the truth—you can't trick or deceive them.

Sin is unnatural; it causes damage to those very cells because we hurt them through our actions. They become blocked from receiving energy, which leads to cellular deformation in our system, and eventually, that manifests as physical illness.

We can't lie to ourselves.

Respecting the Law is the only way to stay in God.

And if we break the Law, love is there to fix those deformations.

So love others and live by the Law as much as possible!...

🙂
.. if you actually want to live.😉
Alex Rogers96 Alex Rogers96 Member
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#12 ·
They’d probably just label American medicine as alternative too, no matter how many decades you spend studying it.
hiddenviper9 hiddenviper9 Active Member
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#13 ·
Kate Diaz: I honestly have no idea who could possibly be taking you seriously.

hiddenviper9:
You’d be surprised at how many people actually do take me seriously.

You certainly don't, since you haven't had the chance to deal with someone of my caliber firsthand.
In fact, here's an address: krivaja@net.hr feel free to go ask around.

Besides, does it even matter what YOU think about my credibility?
You clearly don't respect scientists like the German botanist g. Haberlandt, the Soviet biologist A. g. Gurvić, Nikola Tesla, Robert Hazen, or Timothy Filley from the Geophysical Laboratory at the Carnegie Institution of Washington—not to mention Glenn Goodfriend from George Washington University, dr. Günter Blobel, Masaru Emoto, or the president of the Japan General Research Institute... let alone Paracelsus.
If you had lived in 1866, you probably would have mocked J. A. R. Newlands too, when he presented his discovery regarding the periodic relationship between chemical elements and atomic weight to the American Chemical Society.
Back then, his fellow scientists claimed his findings had no basis in reality.
It hit Newlands so hard that he stopped publishing his work altogether, leaving him in the shadow of d. I. Mendeleev, who secured his place among the greatest scholars of all time with the Periodic Table.

Listen, kid,
I can talk down to you because I'm three times your age. I spent eighteen full years sitting in classrooms and lecture halls, only to eventually realize just how many ridiculous theories were pushed by supposedly "great" scientific names.
The people I mentioned—along with many other unnamed SCIENTISTS—helped me see that truth, not your version of "experts."

And let me REPEAT this: whether anyone believes it or not is irrelevant—I maintain PSYCHIC CONTACTS with beings of a "different kind" located far beyond our Solar System.

I can also tell you that I personally possess PROOF of these contacts.
All you can do is disagree; mocking me just makes you look incredibly foolish—at least in my eyes, or in the eyes of those who know me and communicate with me.
And if you choose to be that foolish, just know your parents and teachers certainly didn't intend for you to turn out this way.
hiddenviper9 hiddenviper9 Active Member
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#14 ·
nimblecobra79: hiddenviper9, what about sin?

hiddenviper9:
First off, we really need to define our terms: What actually counts as sin?
Because let's be honest, not everything the church labels as a sin is actually one.

So, go ahead and tell me which specific sins you think would cause cells to be damaged.
Just don't give me any of those traditional religious prohibitions. For instance, loving someone else's wife isn't a sin according to the laws of Nature.
It's not even against God's law.

So, which sins are you talking about?
Kate Diaz Kate Diaz Member
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#15 ·
Now, hiddenviper9, there's no doubt you're right. I honestly don't know where I get the nerve to question your ideas, considering you're three times my age and spent a solid 18 years grinding through university lectures...

I should be ashamed for even challenging an authority figure like yourself. Perhaps I'll finally be able to do that in about 70 years, once I'm as seasoned as you are after those 18 years of academic life...

Anyway, go ahead and enjoy your chats with the Andromeda Galaxy. I'll catch up with you in 70 years when I've earned the right to a real debate with you... 👋 👋

By the way, I fail to see how all those scientists relate to you. Unlike you, they haven't been holding conversations with the inhabitants of the planet Qvadro in Andromeda, nor have they been attempting to heal people using the magical power of supercrystals...
Kate Diaz Kate Diaz Member
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#16 ·
gentlecanyon92 said:bioenergeticists

And how exactly can we say they "visibly and successfully help," if not based on nothing more than local folklore, fairy tales, or their own self-serving testimonials and praise?

To be clear, I am not making a claim about whether the bioenergetic effect actually exists or not; I am simply wondering what specific evidence is being used to conclude that they provide visible and successful assistance.
gentlecanyon92 gentlecanyon92 Active Member
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#17 ·
Kate Diaz said:And how exactly do you know bioenergetic practitioners "visibly and successfully help," besides relying on hearsay, urban legends, or their own self-congratulatory praise?

Let’s be clear: I’m not even claiming whether this bioenergetic effect actually exists or not. I am simply asking what basis there is for concluding that they provide visible and successful help.

It helped me and those close to me... and I know that for a fact. The problem vanished IMMEDIATELY... or, at the very least, the true cause was identified when doctors couldn't figure it out.
Rebecca Cox2 Rebecca Cox2 Active Member
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#18 ·
gentlecanyon92 said:It helped me and those close to me... I know that for a fact because the issue vanished INSTANTLY... or, at the very least, we finally pinpointed what the actual problem was when doctors couldn't figure it out...

And then what?

What specific issues were we talking about, and how exactly did they resolve, if you don't mind my asking? Vague testimonials like this are pretty much the hallmark of alternative medicine...
hiddenviper9 hiddenviper9 Active Member
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#19 ·
Kate Diaz: Maybe we can finally have that debate in 70 years, once I actually earn the right to go head-to-head with you...

hiddenviper9:
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! You won't even make it to your 52nd birthday.
STAY HEALTHY—AND MAYBE WE'LL SEE!

And just so we're clear, the debate is CLOSED!!!
hiddenviper9 hiddenviper9 Active Member
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#20 ·
This also falls under the umbrella of alternative medicine.

An EXPERIMENT that might mean a lot to some people.

On September 25, 2004, I stepped on the scale and it read 86.5 kilograms.
That means from July 25, 2004, until that date on September 25, I lost 20 kg of body weight.
How?
Through meditation (which is described in my book CRYSTAL I.) where I synchronized my breathing rhythm to achieve total relaxation of all the healthy cells that make up my body.
And during every meditation, for a few minutes, I focused intensely on losing about 20 kg of body weight.
Naturally, I meditated in the presence of a quartz crystal.
Believe it or not, I dropped those 20 kg WITHOUT ANY drinks, pills, fasting, exercise, saunas, or heavy physical labor.
I should mention that I did this while under the supervision of several specialist doctors.

So, after this, I can say with certainty that a person can create a CONSCIOUS CONNECTION with their healthy cells (and even some connections OUTSIDE THE CELLS)—after which the healthy cells will behave exactly how their owner wants them to.

As for my psycho-physical state, I feel incredibly good (healthy), better than I ever have in my 69 years of life.
And here is another interesting fact—all the oil glands I had on my body have disappeared, or at least significantly diminished.

Anyway, I'll provide a full Report, which I think will be interesting to many—especially those who want to maintain their body weight THROUGH THOUGHT.
The truth is, these people need to know that losing a large number of kilograms in a short time this way isn't entirely without its risks.
In fact, when losing a lot of weight (quickly), certain issues can arise that might scare someone if they aren't familiar with working with crystals...

Note:
The complete experiment Report will be published on my websites—likely on blogspot.com too (just so I can brag a little about having my own blog).

Additionally, I’ll be opening an Alternative doctor's office on my websites, where methods for self-healing certain ailments will be available.
Entry to the doctor's office will be FREE!

And to wrap up this excerpt from the Report:
On the morning of Monday, September 28, I weighed 86.5 kg.
So, in 2 months and 5 days, I lost exactly 20 kg.

I'll repeat: my psycho-physical state was outstanding—something my General Practitioner can confirm.

Now, let me introduce you to this part as well.
Once I noticed my weight was dropping according to plan, starting October 12, I began thinking occasionally about losing even more weight—so that by the end of the year, I would hit 80 kg.
I certainly used thought to ask if this was okay.
The answer was: Yes.

While still monitoring my weight daily, the scale showed 86.5 kg all the way until October 4, when it dropped to 86 kg.
On October 15, I weighed 85.
October 31 / 84
November 12 / 83
November 27 / 82
December 5 / 81
December 9 / 80.5
December 21 / 80.5
December 31 / 80.7

One more thing.
I haven't finished the experiment yet because I have PROGRAMMED my system (my cells) to drop down to approximately 70 kg by the end of April.

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