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Lisa Taylor2 Lisa Taylor2 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Oct 2009
#141 ·
Has anyone here actually dealt with an offer like this before—has anyone tried to actually pull the trigger on one?

Any insight you guys have would be huge.
Thanks in advance for the heads-up!

Here’s the exact junk I got in my inbox:

We offer private, business, and personal loans with incredibly low annual interest rates—as low as 3%. We provide loans ranging from $1,000 to $2,000,000. Generally, we offer:

LOAN TERMS

1. The borrower must be at least 18 years old.
2. The agreement signing process for this transaction must be handled through my attorney.
3. The loan will be sent to you via JPMorgan Chase wire transfer or check, depending on your preference.
4. The borrower must be prepared to repay the loan within the specified term, which will be verified by signing the legal paperwork/loan agreement.
5. The debtor must have steady employment to satisfy my requirements regarding repayment capability.
6. The interest rate is 3%.
If you agree to the terms above, please fill out the following form.

Borrower's W-2 Form

If you run into any difficulties filling out the form, simply click the link at the bottom of your email application to complete it.
SECTION I

NAME:
CONTACT ADDRESS:
NATIONALITY:
COUNTRY:
DATE OF BIRTH:
GENDER:
MARITAL STATUS:
CURRENT JOB TITLE:
Your Company Name OR Business Owner:
Social Security Number:
ZIP Code / Country Code: Fax: Telephone: (Office):
Next of kin:
NEXT OF KIN ADDRESS:
TEL (Home):
FAX:
SECTION II

Requested Loan Amount:
PROPOSED LOAN TERM:
PURPOSE OF LOAN:
Monthly Income:
Do you have any ASSETS:

NOTE: you must COMPLETE THIS FORM AND RETURN it along with a scanned

COPY of one of the following forms of IDENTITY

(i) US PASSPORT
(ii) Driver's License
(iii) WORK ID
(iv) State ID
(v) GOVERNMENT IDENTITY CARD

Best Regards.

Mr. Johnson & Johnson
Gregory Williams7 Gregory Williams7 Active Member
144 messages
joined Mar 2014
#142 ·
Identity theft, at least on the surface
Ronald Allen Ronald Allen Active Member
160 messages
joined Oct 2010
#143 ·
Lisa Taylor2 said:Has anyone here actually dealt with an offer like this before—has anyone tried to actually pull the trigger on one?

Any insight you guys have would be huge.
Thanks in advance for the heads-up!

Here’s the exact junk I got in my inbox:

We offer private, business, and personal loans with incredibly low annual interest rates—as low as 3%. We provide loans ranging from $1,000 to $2,000,000. Generally, we offer:

LOAN TERMS

1. The borrower must be at least 18 years old.
2. The agreement signing process for this transaction must be handled through my attorney.
3. The loan will be sent to you via JPMorgan Chase wire transfer or check, depending on your preference.
4. The borrower must be prepared to repay the loan within the specified term, which will be verified by signing the legal paperwork/loan agreement.
5. The debtor must have steady employment to satisfy my requirements regarding repayment capability.
6. The interest rate is 3%.
If you agree to the terms above, please fill out the following form.

Borrower's W-2 Form

If you run into any difficulties filling out the form, simply click the link at the bottom of your email application to complete it.
SECTION I

NAME:
CONTACT ADDRESS:
NATIONALITY:
COUNTRY:
DATE OF BIRTH:
GENDER:
MARITAL STATUS:
CURRENT JOB TITLE:
Your Company Name OR Business Owner:
Social Security Number:
ZIP Code / Country Code: Fax: Telephone: (Office):
Next of kin:
NEXT OF KIN ADDRESS:
TEL (Home):
FAX:
SECTION II

Requested Loan Amount:
PROPOSED LOAN TERM:
PURPOSE OF LOAN:
Monthly Income:
Do you have any ASSETS:

NOTE: you must COMPLETE THIS FORM AND RETURN it along with a scanned

COPY of one of the following forms of IDENTITY

(i) US PASSPORT
(ii) Driver's License
(iii) WORK ID
(iv) State ID
(v) GOVERNMENT IDENTITY CARD

Best Regards.

Mr. Johnson & Johnson

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Which gentleman Reckitt are we talking about here? Is it the one making Aquaphor for limescale, or the guy behind OxiClean for stain removal...? Or maybe the one responsible for Lysol to get rid of grease and grime...? 🤔
I mean, since all that stuff sits right there in the bathroom, and you're busy doing your business, I guess all those labels on the products you keep in there seem pretty hilarious to you—at least to me! 😁
So, here’s my friendly little tip: head over to the restroom, grab any one of those two products, and check the side of the bottle to see exactly WHO AND WHAT "Reckitt" actually is... 😲

Man, I'm just gonna hurt myself thinking about the crazy ideas people come up with!!!!! 😂😂😂
Andrew Martin13 Andrew Martin13 Member
49 messages
joined May 2012
#144 ·
Honestly, if you ask me, you have to be pretty desperate to fall for something so unverified. It’s usually just a blatant money grab and a way to fleece people.
cosmiclynx43 cosmiclynx43 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2009
#145 ·
I’m looking at a pretty tight window here—I need about $667 within the next 24 hours—so I'm weighing my options. Is it actually worth trying to pull that through a credit union, or should I just stick with a standard bank loan?😕
Richard Wright Richard Wright Active Member
102 messages
joined May 2010
#146 ·
"Quote:"
cosmiclynx43 said:I’m looking at a pretty tight window here—I need about $667 within the next 24 hours—so I'm weighing my options. Is it actually worth trying to pull that through a credit union, or should I just stick with a standard bank loan?😕

No, because you’re actually going to end up walking away with more than that. $667...☕
David Miller2 David Miller2 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Jan 2011
#147 ·
Richard Wright said:Honestly, almost everyone replying here is either being incredibly superficial or just theorizing without having the slightest clue what they're actually talking about...
Look, if you had bothered to glance at the actual ads, you would have realized there are at least four distinct types of loans being marketed here.
1. Fully legitimate loans processed through major institutions like Bank of America, but handled via authorized brokers or agencies (which is the group I belong to).
The upside? "They" handle the heavy lifting—advising you, gathering all your paperwork, and forwarding everything to the lending bank. You, the borrower, only show up at the bank once it’s time to sign the contract and get paid. There are agencies and offices that partner with dozens of different banks, so you only need to visit one place to compare terms across the board. You end up finding someone who will go above and beyond to find a solution because they only get their commission from the bank IF the loan is approved.
2. Credit card-based loans—using credit or charge cards to "buy" goods for $10, where "they" give you $8.25 cash, resell the items, and you're left stuck paying monthly installments with standard credit card interest rates of around 15%. This is mostly a scam run by shady retailers, though the "customers" using these services aren't exactly geniuses either...
3. Secured loans—usually backed by cars or things that are easy to flip, like jewelry or other assets.
4. Check-based loans—where you agree to pay back a specific "installment," and if you don't, "they" simply cash the checks.
5. Everything else found in the police blotter, though those guys don't exactly run ads...

There are more niche variations out there, but these are the big ones...
But really, you could have figured all this out in five minutes just by scrolling through the classifieds, picking three or four random ads as a test, and asking them straight up what kind of loans they're offering.

No worries, next time 🙂

P. S. There is NO such thing as a "good" or "favorable" loan. Every single loan is a necessary evil, to some degree. How much of an evil it is—and how necessary—depends entirely on YOU.
And here's another "smart" thought: Every product has its buyer, no matter how much we all shake our heads at it...

Richard, props to you! Finally, someone actually explained the "mystery" behind these advertised loans in the classifieds.
I know this thread is old, but man, it's still sooo relevant!
I personally know people working in that first category, and I'd venture to say they actually know way more about lending and money in general than your average bank teller—especially compared to the average financially illiterate American who thinks living with a massive overdraft on their checking account is just part of life (even though that interest rate is pure robbery!).
swiftcyclist58 swiftcyclist58 Member
36 messages
joined Jan 2011
#148 ·
Nicole James said:Okay... let's say you have one of those people who would take the elevator to the sixth floor just to walk down to the second. I highly doubt there are enough people like that to make a middleman business like this actually profitable... I mean, who is going to call some random, shady stranger to negotiate life insurance policies under weird conditions when they could just walk into a Chase branch and handle everything cleanly and securely? The only reason someone wouldn't go through a bank is if they knew they'd be flagged immediately—which brings us back to the fact that this can't be a legitimate operation. After all, why would a major bank suddenly approve a loan for someone who doesn't qualify, even through an intermediary? It just doesn't make sense from a legal standpoint.

It's because EVERY single bank handles loans under the table like that, and because every banker is busy pushing extra products onto people just to hit their monthly quotas, and that is the cold, hard truth!
swiftcyclist58 swiftcyclist58 Member
36 messages
joined Jan 2011
#149 ·
Lisa Rogers said:However, according to the lady at Bank of America—the one the broker suggested—they’re actually being quite evasive about these specific loans.
And honestly, that’s what I don't get. Why wouldn't a bank just offer this kind of credit directly to someone without needing a middleman?
So, here's the situation: for this woman (whom I mentioned earlier), the broker suggested a loan through Wells Fargo after I took a look at her finances. To get the loan, she’d also have to pay for some kind of insurance—I'm not even sure what it covers—and the monthly premium is pretty steep. There are no requirements for guarantors, mortgages, or co-signers. On paper, it's perfect for my friend, but predictably, she's nervous.
She goes into the branch to ask for a loan under the exact same terms the broker offered. Naturally, the bank teller looks at her like she's lost her mind.
Still, I can't wrap my head around how these brokers could actually scam her. The only thing that makes sense is if they somehow intercept the funds so the money never hits her account. Otherwise, none of it adds up; she doesn't own property or a car, and she's just living off a decent salary. That's it.

It's because Bank of America, and frankly most other banks too, make their extra profit that way, and why would they ever give you a better deal directly if they can't bundle in a bunch of extra products to squeeze more money out of you?
swiftcyclist58 swiftcyclist58 Member
36 messages
joined Jan 2011
#150 ·
David Miller2 said:Richard, props to you! Finally, someone actually explained the "mystery" behind these advertised loans in the classifieds.
I know this thread is old, but man, it's still sooo relevant!
I personally know people working in that first category, and I'd venture to say they actually know way more about lending and money in general than your average bank teller—especially compared to the average financially illiterate American who thinks living with a massive overdraft on their checking account is just part of life (even though that interest rate is pure robbery!).

I have to agree, bravo Richard Wright👍
swiftcyclist58 swiftcyclist58 Member
36 messages
joined Jan 2011
#151 ·
Richard Wright said:"Quote:"

No, because you’re actually going to end up walking away with more than that. $667...☕

And don't tell me you wouldn't pay back a little extra at the bank, honestly... just go check out a payday lender and see for yourself what the actual fees look like on one of those tiny little loans
Richard Wright Richard Wright Active Member
102 messages
joined May 2010
#152 ·
Look, ever since that post you’re talking about, things have shifted quite a bit regarding how much luck plays into this.

The credit brokerage market is finally being cleaned up. We’ve got the Law of 1.1.2010 on the books now, and it’s been fully active for about a month.
A ton of companies rushed to get registered—many of them doing it at the absolute last minute just to stay legal—but most of them are still operating in that unregulated "gray zone."
We saw the exact same thing happen with the insurance and real estate markets, so honestly, any move toward more civilized, transparent business is something I’ll take.

The silver lining here is that the players who actually think long-term—the ones with legitimate business plans and actual policies—are finally being recognized by the public. More importantly, they're being recognized by the banks and the entire financial sector.

At the end of the day, there will always be a demand for those "fixers" who can make things happen and lend money under pretty questionable terms. But as long as there are honest people in the mix, it’s a win for the folks for whom that’s their only shot.
Michael Lee2 Michael Lee2 Newcomer
1 message
joined Aug 2011
#153 ·
Richard Wright said:Look, ever since that post you’re talking about, things have shifted quite a bit regarding how much luck plays into this.

The credit brokerage market is finally being cleaned up. We’ve got the Law of 1.1.2010 on the books now, and it’s been fully active for about a month.
A ton of companies rushed to get registered—many of them doing it at the absolute last minute just to stay legal—but most of them are still operating in that unregulated "gray zone."
We saw the exact same thing happen with the insurance and real estate markets, so honestly, any move toward more civilized, transparent business is something I’ll take.

The silver lining here is that the players who actually think long-term—the ones with legitimate business plans and actual policies—are finally being recognized by the public. More importantly, they're being recognized by the banks and the entire financial sector.

At the end of the day, there will always be a demand for those "fixers" who can make things happen and lend money under pretty questionable terms. But as long as there are honest people in the mix, it’s a win for the folks for whom that’s their only shot.

Thankfully, that law was passed and it's actually happening.

I just wanted to say here—for the uninitiated (and man, there are more and more of them on this forum lately talking about loans, installments, banks, etc., because people are desperate for solutions and advice they can barely get from some teller at a single desk at Bank of America)—that according to reports from top-tier financial sites and news outlets, over 70% of credit lines and financial solutions in Western markets like the European Union and the USA are offered and handled by licensed credit agencies.
And honestly, there's so much debate about credit brokers, even though most of them are just young, highly educated, and driven professionals. It seems like most of the general public is still terrified of every little flyer they see, failing to realize that it's actually the banks themselves that are brutally ripping them off and pushing products on them, hiking interest rates, manipulating foreclosures and freezes, and creating all this confusion that leads to so many posts on this forum.
People, seriously, learn how to find information in the right places. A bank's website is only going to give you partial, vague, and skimpy info on loan types, annuities, and interest rates—and even then, only if you're an ultra-organized (and profitable) client for them. Meanwhile, a bank employee—who often doesn't even understand the products or the lending capabilities for their own house, let alone other banks (which they aren't even allowed to mention)—can basically drive you into a state of total crap within record time by just saying, "we can't help you / offer you..." and then, once you leave, you end up having to settle your situation through an authorized credit broker. ☕
Gregory Williams4 Gregory Williams4 Member
19 messages
joined Dec 2011
#154 ·
Securities and Exchange Commission

who even are these people?
Gregory Williams4 Gregory Williams4 Member
19 messages
joined Dec 2011
#155 ·
http://financijskarijesenja.bloger.h...e/2105637.aspx

Who are these guys? Are they legit or should I just run the other way?
Lawrence Cruz Lawrence Cruz Active Member
118 messages
joined Jun 2010
#156 ·
I honestly don't know, but I have zero faith in any lending services operating outside of traditional banks.

Here is what caught my eye:
The claim that funds are disbursed within five days exclusively through a bank => but which bank? => If they are using a bank for payouts, does that mean the transaction is being processed internally? => Because if it's handled by a bank, how exactly are they bypassing credit blacklists and the Federal Reserve? 🤷

On top of that, they haven't even listed a physical address or a landline—just a generic @gmail.com email.
Gregory Williams4 Gregory Williams4 Member
19 messages
joined Dec 2011
#157 ·
Lawrence Cruz said:I honestly don't know, but I have zero faith in any lending services operating outside of traditional banks.

Here is what caught my eye:
The claim that funds are disbursed within five days exclusively through a bank => but which bank? => If they are using a bank for payouts, does that mean the transaction is being processed internally? => Because if it's handled by a bank, how exactly are they bypassing credit blacklists and the Federal Reserve? 🤷

On top of that, they haven't even listed a physical address or a landline—just a generic @gmail.com email.

WASHINGTON, D.C. CREDIT CENTER
CONTACT - 099/561-8991, 091/592-2633
e-mail: financijska.rjesenja@gmail.com
Lawrence Cruz Lawrence Cruz Active Member
118 messages
joined Jun 2010
#158 ·
So, what's the point?

I’m telling you—there’s no physical address, no verified phone number, and anyone can spin up a Gmail account with whatever alias they want.
Gregory Williams4 Gregory Williams4 Member
19 messages
joined Dec 2011
#159 ·
and check
Gregory Williams4 Gregory Williams4 Member
19 messages
joined Dec 2011
#160 ·
or maybe these guys

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