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Personal loan ads: Legit or scam?

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Richard Wright Richard Wright Active Member
102 messages
joined May 2010
#121 ·
rustypilot10 said:People need to stay far away from those classified ads, and especially stay clear of the FBI. I applied for a loan through $8333 and sent over all my paperwork, only to have them call me five days later claiming I was approved... they want a monthly payment of about $300 for 7 years. PLEASE!!! 84 * 900 equals $25000... yet I'm only walking away with just over 20,000 in hand. It is honestly appalling; where is the consumer protection in this country? This is supposed to be a legitimate credit union right in downtown Chicago. We are truly screwed here.

Look, I've gathered some solid material regarding this specific situation here:
Richard Wright Richard Wright Active Member
102 messages
joined May 2010
#122 ·
I really hope you didn't just skim the headline, because the whole situation is a bit "inflated" as it stands.

If you look down in the comments (check the second one in line), there's a solid breakdown explaining that she actually walked away with $38, not the $24,000 claimed in the title. Most of that money was immediately swallowed up by $22—things like paying off old debts, clearing out credit lines, insurance premiums, and so on.
Steven Smith37 Steven Smith37 Newcomer
1 message
joined Feb 2009
#123 ·
Can anyone give me the lowdown on these loan offers I'm seeing in the classified ads?
Jonathan Ward59 Jonathan Ward59 Member
39 messages
joined Feb 2009
#124 ·
First time I'm hearing about these loans
who's backing them?
Richard Newman23 Richard Newman23 Newcomer
1 message
joined Feb 2009
#125 ·
Standard bank loans. Sometimes a broker can speed up the approval process—though if your financials are solid across the board, things move pretty quickly on their own nowadays—especially if they have an external partnership agreement with the bank.
The catch is that every single one of them will require you to take out a life insurance policy to cover the loan. To make matters worse, they usually push a much higher premium than what the bank actually requires.
Bottom line: you should research your options and go directly to the bank. You’ll end up saving quite a bit of money that way. Be careful, though; plenty of people promise they can clear your credit report or guarantee an approval. You spend all that time gathering documentation and submitting paperwork, only for the bank to run your file, reject the application, and leave you empty-handed. Not only have you wasted time and cash, but you're also flagged in their system, making it nearly impossible to get a loan from them in the future.
There are honest brokers out there, but they're hard to find...
What's making you consider going through them in the first place?
Richard Wright Richard Wright Active Member
102 messages
joined May 2010
#126 ·
ABA puts itself at the top just so they can be first in the alphabetical list on the classifieds. I hope you noticed that half the entries start with the letter A. Honestly, almost everyone plays the same game—Richard Newman23 pretty much nailed it when she described how this works.
Kenneth Smith70 Kenneth Smith70 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Mar 2009
#127 ·
In the States, lending is basically left to banks and credit unions under the watchful eye of the Federal Reserve. Legally, interest rates—whether upfront or late fees—usually cap out around 14 percent, though that fluctuates... You gotta disclose the total cost as an APR, and if you miss a payment, creditors aren't allowed to just tack unpaid interest onto the principal... annoying, right?
You can grab cash on the gray market if you want, but just know you're playing with fire... Dealing with lenders in that zone? Totally sketchy. You never know if they're even legal or ethical, and then there's the whole mess with interest rates being rigged or them faking their entire identity just to look like some legit Wall Street outfit...
Sure, you find some honest folks even in the shady side hustles, but mostly? It's just scammers using every dirty trick in the book to bleed you dry... they're out to empty your pockets on purpose.
Basically, it's all about those predatory loans where the actual interest rate absolutely shreds any legal limit... but you won't see it on paper because they just list the "legal" rates in the contract. The usury is buried right in the principal. You ask for five grand, and suddenly the contract says you owe six or seven... sneaky bastards...
Two years ago, the Federal Reserve launched a bunch of investigations to track down those predatory loan sharks who flood the streets with flyers and newspaper ads... Everyone suspected the big banks were pulling the strings, but the investigators only managed to nail the individuals fronting the loans. In other spots, it was companies disguising high-interest loans as fake business transactions by holding onto people's checks or credit cards. And don't even get me started on the credit unions... they were another massive player in that whole shady lending market...
The top two sharks—both the big players and the small-time outfits—are just as active today as they were two years ago. Honestly, maybe even more so now that banks have tightened the screws on personal loans... You only have to look at the classifieds or check your mailbox to see it. It’s all those "Fast Cash for Credit Card Holders" ads everywhere, plastered with those big-name logos like American Express and Master... typical.
And then there's all that crap they print... "Cash in five minutes, instant payout, no collateral, zero hidden fees, same-day funding, direct deposit, best rates in town, fast and discreet, 100% safe, 100% legal, even if you're on a blacklist!" Please... it's all total garbage. Pure manipulation. Just bait to get you in the door... And notice how they conveniently leave out the APR? If you actually sit down and crunch the numbers from their flyer, the interest rate hits almost 40 percent—way past what’s legal here in the States... Total scams...
Then there's those credit unions... total joke. Instead of actually helping people out, half of them in America have just turned into legalized scams... The feds tried to shut them down, but thanks to some legal loopholes, they're still crawling around out there...
Back in January 2007, the Credit Union Act kicked in and gave those cooperatives three choices: flip into savings banks, become official credit unions under the Federal Reserve, or just shut down entirely. But because the law was such a mess, it left this massive loophole... the old Savings and Credit Cooperative Act got scrapped, but suddenly there was zero oversight for any groups already in liquidation—that was supposed to be on the Treasury's plate. Naturally, some of these "cooperatives" jumped right through that gap to keep predatory lending to citizens going without anyone watching them... typical...
New updates to the credit union laws just dropped this February... finally fixing that massive oversight so these old-school cooperatives can finally kick rocks. And get this—they’re already cooking up a consumer credit law to clean up the rest of that shady "gray market" mess out there... about time...
So, what's the bottom line? Only borrow from actual banks or credit unions—places that actually follow federal laws. Before you go spending money you don't have, run the numbers yourself or grab a pro to figure out the real cost. Look at what you actually bring home and what you need to survive... make sure those monthly payments won't wreck your budget.
If you can't get a loan through official channels, just earn it instead! Seriously, check this out if you want to see how messy things get when you deal with shady lenders.
Terry Howard Terry Howard Active Member
87 messages
joined Oct 2007
#128 ·
Honestly, this topic has been covered about five million times already on this forum
Richard Wright Richard Wright Active Member
102 messages
joined May 2010
#129 ·
Rose Red, if you aren't actually Nenad Maljković, the least you could do is cite your sources and tell us who you ripped this from...

http://www.pametnakuna.com/u-minusu/ne-nasjedajte-obećanjima-lihvara

Look, the headline isn't even "Credits Advertised on Pillars," and half the stuff in here is completely overblown. This whole thing is just a messy compilation of snippets pulled from various newspapers and websites...
Alex Bishop40 Alex Bishop40 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Oct 2009
#130 ·
Lately, every single subway station is plastered with ads for loans—"instant approval, lowest rates..." It’s everywhere. What have your experiences been with these kinds of loans? Are they actually affordable? Is there anything even legitimate about them? How safe are we talking here?
Thanks
Aaron Gonzalez6 Aaron Gonzalez6 Member
44 messages
joined Oct 2006
#131 ·
If you’re looking to take out a $50,000 home equity loan—$33333getting that cash in your hands has never been easier.
Timothy Castillo6 Timothy Castillo6 Active Member
148 messages
joined Apr 2010
#132 ·
That’s a pretty safe bet for now... until it isn't.

Then one day, some guys just show up 🙂 and you'll see exactly what happens next...
Jesse Lewis4 Jesse Lewis4 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Jun 2010
#133 ·
Are you talking about running credit through cards—like Master, American Express, Discover, or whatever else?
I’m no expert on whether that’s actually a smart move, and I don't know anyone who does it, so I haven't got much useful info for you.
Timothy Kim9 Timothy Kim9 Active Member
100 messages
joined Jun 2007
#134 ·
I was reading about how this whole thing actually works.
Basically, people end up paying more in interest than they would at a standard bank like Chase,
but that’s not where the money is being made.
Take this one woman's situation, for example:
First, you have to join some kind of credit union or cooperative—you pay a monthly
membership fee of $83. You keep paying that until the loan is totally cleared out.
Then there's the account maintenance fee, which was $75 per month
until the debt is gone.
See, those two fees? That's their actual profit, not the interest.
Alex Bishop40 Alex Bishop40 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Oct 2009
#135 ·
Jesse Lewis4 said:Are you talking about running credit through cards—like Master, American Express, Discover, or whatever else?
I’m no expert on whether that’s actually a smart move, and I don't know anyone who does it, so I haven't got much useful info for you.


Yeah, that's exactly what I mean. Apparently, using a Master card is the cheapest option. At least, that's what one ad claimed. $1667 - $73/month, $3333 - $147/month, $5000 - $220/month... all supposedly over a 3-year term. A 2% processing fee, instant approval in 5 minutes... blah blah blah.
Does anyone actually have info on this? I need a loan, and this looks decent. If it were a scam, people would be talking about it by now...
Kimberly Nguyen Kimberly Nguyen Regular
543 messages
joined Jul 2009
#136 ·
It basically works by tricking you into walking into some massive big-box retailer—usually one of those places overflowing with high-end appliances... then you swipe your card to buy a bunch of stuff worth, say, $6.75, spread out over 36 monthly installments. The store gets their money, you’re stuck grinding away at the credit payments, and all you actually walk away with is maybe $5.00 (and even that’s a huge "if")
Richard Wright Richard Wright Active Member
102 messages
joined May 2010
#137 ·
God, I just love these people who act like absolute experts on everything, even when they don't have the slightest clue what the actual question was about.

The vast majority of those flyers you see at gas stations or taped to utility poles are actually talking about cash advances via credit cards.
Kimberly Nguyen was the only one here who actually gave a decent answer to the original post...
Look, that method is technically "safe," but you better run the numbers carefully to see what you’re actually shelling out.
You’ve got the interest rates from the card itself plus whatever "service fee" they tack on. If you can stomach that, go for it. Usually, the only thing shady about it is how they operate; most of the time, they just play matchmaker between someone needing inventory and someone needing quick cash. It results in an immediate sale, and the guy getting the goods usually scores a pretty solid discount in the process.

So, yeah, that's how the whole racket works.
This system has been around forever. If the big banks really wanted to, they could shut these operations down in a heartbeat—especially since these guys are brazen enough to use bank logos in their ads—but let's be honest: the banks are perfectly fine letting them "cycle" those credit cards.
Charles Ramos7 Charles Ramos7 Regular
529 messages
joined Jul 2010
#138 ·
Kimberly Nguyen said:It basically works by tricking you into walking into some massive big-box retailer—usually one of those places overflowing with high-end appliances... then you swipe your card to buy a bunch of stuff worth, say, $6.75, spread out over 36 monthly installments. The store gets their money, you’re stuck grinding away at the credit payments, and all you actually walk away with is maybe $5.00 (and even that’s a huge "if")

Hmm. If we're talking credit cards, I'd rather just bug my friends when they're making a big purchase. I'll offer to pay with my card and have them give me the cash instead.
When I first got my credit card, I was obsessed with racking up reward miles. Since they were offering double miles for the first three months, I spent my time hunting down "victims" just to rack up points at $8333 😉
driftingviper12 driftingviper12 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Nov 2009
#139 ·
Timothy Kim9 said:I was reading about how this whole thing actually works.
Basically, people end up paying more in interest than they would at a standard bank like Chase,
but that’s not where the money is being made.
Take this one woman's situation, for example:
First, you have to join some kind of credit union or cooperative—you pay a monthly
membership fee of $83. You keep paying that until the loan is totally cleared out.
Then there's the account maintenance fee, which was $75 per month
until the debt is gone.
See, those two fees? That's their actual profit, not the interest.

This is 100% true. I personally dealt with two clients who were charged exactly what zvonkotelefonko described.
And it gets worse—the prepayment penalty was 15%, but it wasn't based on the remaining principal; it was calculated against the total original debt!
Unbelievable...
But hey, the loan was processed in two hours.
Andrew Martin13 Andrew Martin13 Member
49 messages
joined May 2012
#140 ·
Just a bunch of nonsense. What kind of earnings are we even talking about here?

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