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Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#201 ·
We can barely see straight in this world, yet we're already being taught how to spit on ourselves.
On the very peak of GOD'S most PERFECT CREATION.
Before we even learn to walk, they’re forcing us into molds of "spiritual" identity, sects, or denominations.
Hardly able to grasp the alphabet, and they're already trying to box us in with their little books.

I am convinced a "better era" will arrive on Earth once these kinds of "organizations" slowly fade into nothingness...
Or what people call the
Golden Age
So we struggle, gnawing away at our own lives just to please the "HOLY SERVANTS"
who pin us to the GROUND like lizards instead of human beings.

I'll say it again: it's baked into the human psyche... people crave having a "Ruler" over them...
They want to be enslaved...
Do a little digging into ancient history... then you'll see exactly how this whole mess started...

If you love EVERYTHING THAT IS, it's because you finally grasped the true nature of this and that world.

Well, Jesus loves everything that exists....
(According to how much I've supposedly read the Bible
😁 )

Would you, Jose Reyes, change your mind if you actually held the real Jesus's text in your hands... rather than this version in the New Testament that the Church has "processed" for centuries...

Have you ever actually read the Apocryphal Gospels (I haven't)... maybe there, Jesus is shown in a completely different light.🙄 🙄
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#202 ·
Of course it isn't possible, Karen Sanchez19.
But look, it’s all the same pattern. It’s a setup. They orchestrated this play involving Abraham, Buddha, Jesus, and even Muhammad.
It all comes down to that fundamental splitting—that messy, violent fracture of the complete human being into two warring factions: Good and Evil.

I’m looking for some quotes from the Bible... if you're feeling up to it.🙏 🙏 🙂 😁

Well, that FUCKING fabricated, sick little "Watcher," or so they claim, Karen Sanchez19.
You can't just go around "installing" an "EGO" without also having a level of substance that actually surpasses it. It’s a hollow pursuit.
Whose "EGO" is actually providing the legitimacy here?

Perhaps it’s nothing more than just another technique.🙄
I’m not talking nonsense...
To be perfectly honest, I find their whole argument quite muddled right now... It just doesn't add up.
Alright... I see what you're getting at now.
😁

Where on earth do you get the INSPIRATION for that "Q U E S T I O N," hollowviper72?
Where does that initial—and I mean the truly INITIATING—surge of energy actually come from? Where is that spark of action born?
Regarding the "discernment" of what constitutes "truth."
So, this is what we’re doing now? We’re actually going to pose that fateful question? Fine. Let's get on with it.
We told you: you can't just conjure it out of thin air. It doesn't work that way.
Tomorrow, those four orangutans over in Sumatra—the ones currently digging around trying to unearth some supposed "individual consciousness"—won't be able to brag about having achieved it all on their own.

You claim that an unenlightened person lacks "impulse"... like some blind chicken wandering aimlessly... but honestly? That’s just not true. They have plenty of impulse. It’s just not directed.
So how can they even claim to "exist" if that individual isn't Enlightened? It makes absolutely no sense.😕
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#203 ·
hollowviper72:
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That sounds like a typical statement from some kid who hasn't even stepped foot in a single actual academy of thought. You probably just scraped that idea from the one solitary page you managed to read before deciding you were suddenly enlightened, didn't you?
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hollowviper72, what could you possibly know about "academies of thought" when you've already exposed your own ignorance with that circus act involving a KOAN?
Not even a grandmaster like GROCK could have staged something quite that ridiculous.

A TRUE MASTER does indeed carry himself like a "kid."
He is DIRECT and SIMPLE.
Because he understands things through firsthand experience.
Because he untangles your Gordian knots with a single hand.
He pulls you out of your confusion with just one word.
He is Living, bright, and carefree.
Just a pure kid from the streets.

Master John:
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"Academies" were established by those liars who viewed us as unworthy of God.
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hollowviper72:
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Pure nonsense, considering you haven't grasped the essence of an academy of thought at all—not to mention the fact that in Buddhism, there is no god.
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The "essence of an academy of thought" is defined by the principles and frameworks set down by its founders, hollowviper72.
You merely study a "school," as we have clearly seen.
This MASTER is dissecting the FIRST TEACHER.

God plays NO ROLE whatsoever in Master John's realizations, hollowviper72.
In fact, He doesn't exist, nor has He EVER existed.
The MASTER only uses a worn-out cliché to point you toward something else entirely.
And that is to ensure that none of those LIARS keep you from being worthy of the universe HERE & NOW.
The universe of your very own existence, from which you emerged and with which you are fused in every single vein.

Do you need a nightlight to perceive the MASTER'S philosophical thread, hollowviper72? 🙂 😕
hollowviper72 hollowviper72 Regular
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#204 ·
Not quite, though I have to say—a microscope would certainly come in handy right about now. 😁
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#205 ·
Jose Reyes, you say?
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Where on earth do you get the MOTIVATION for this "QUESTION," hollowviper72?
Where does that initial (and INITIATING) energetic impulse to act actually originate?
The drive to "discern" whether something is valid?
The force required to pose that very same fateful INQUIRY?
We have already told you: you cannot simply devise it yourself.
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hollowviper72:
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No... that is what *you* eventually said.
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You see, hollowviper72, THIS IS A KOAN.
As powerful as the "CLAP OF ONE HAND."

"HOW CAN YOU CONCEIVE THE UNCONCEIVABLE," hollowviper72?

You owe the answer to YOURSELF, not to a MASTER.
Where does the "INITIAL IMPULSE" come from, hollowviper72?
😕 😁 🙄
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#206 ·
hollowviper72:
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No, though I suppose a microscope might be useful here.
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Why don't you step a little closer to the OBJECTIVE, Gaudrathe?
One does not grasp the TRUTH through mere TOOLS.
😎
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#207 ·
Karen Sanchez19:
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Well, Jesus loves everything that exists...
(at least according to my limited reading of the Bible
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You’re free to go digging through the Apocryphal Gospels if you like, Karen Sanchez19.
But if you do, try looking for actual UNCONDITIONAL "LOVE" instead of searching for FALSHA.
FALSHA is nothing more than that which refuses to grant you FULL RECOGNITION and ACCEPTANCE
in this very moment.
Anyone who claims to "RECOGNIZE and ACCEPT" you while simultaneously shoving the same old DIVINE conditions under your nose is simply NOT ENLIGHTENED, Karen Sanchez19.
😉

You are asking about the era preceding MASTER JOHN'S ILLUMINATION EPOCH.
It is certain that Master John recognized the validity of such an inquiry.
However, a more precise answer would be better suited for a private message.

Look, during his school and college years, Master John didn't pose questions about God and the universe any differently than anyone else.
I suppose that’s your generation's preoccupation, Karen Sanchez19.
There were no computers or internet forums back then, but there was plenty of socializing, both in the summer and the winter.
You once asked the MASTER if he was "married" and if he "had children," if I recall correctly.
The MASTER is indeed married and has a ten-year-old kid.😎 🙂
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#208 ·
Karen Sanchez19:
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You claim there is no "impulse" within an unenlightened person—much like a blind hen wandering aimlessly—but does that actually hold water? If such impulses exist, how can we say they truly "exist" if the individual hasn't reached enlightenment?
How is that even possible if they lack that fundamental clarity?
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Karen Sanchez19, you will find your answer within the
Challenge of the Iron Glove.😉
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#209 ·
You’re asking about the era preceding MASTER JOHN’S ENLIGHTENED EPIC.
Naturally, Master John was aware of that inquiry as well.
A more precise answer would be better suited for a private message.

So, just shoot me an email or a PM.

Thanks.👋

You essentially asked the MASTER if he ever "married" or "had children."
The MASTER is married and has a ten-year-old kid.

How you managed to integrate a wife and kids into your "enlightened" lifestyle...

And if one is allowed to know what you studied... send a PM if you're too embarrassed to post it publicly.
🙂 😁
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#210 ·
To my fellow Partners:

Master John serves as the SPIRITUAL TEACHER you can find over at the "Challenge of the Iron Glove."

The ground has been cleared for us to engage in even more profound dialogue.
Welcome!👋
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#211 ·
Denver... that's where we head next. A mass exodus is coming.🙂 🙂
nimblecobra79 nimblecobra79 Member
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#212 ·
Jose Reyes said:Master John is talking about "TODAY":
The world where three religious "titans" and eleven religious "iguanas" all fight for their own version of "TRUTH" and their own little flock.

Buddhists, Christians, Muslims, and Jews.
The entire planet is being managed and leveled by this religious schizophrenia.
And all four of these EMPTY HOLLOWS feed, nurture, and refuse to cure this SCHIZOPHRENIA.
One after the other, it’s just a cycle.

Master John diagnoses this HELL quite clearly, Karen Sanchez19:

Abraham, Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad—they all tell us that MAN isn't good enough to please such a God.

Like four orangutans from Sumatra who suddenly stumble upon SELF-AWARENESS tomorrow and start blathering on about some lost KINGDOM OF GOD.

Watch the pattern, Karen Sanchez19.
The formula for the Master's HELL.

The HELLISH FORMULA claims that Salvation, Nirvana, Paradise, Enlightenment... you HAVE TO earn it through blood.
First, because you aren't WORTHY of God.
Second, because you actually have to EARN God.

Do you see WHO and WHAT is separating us from our God, Karen Sanchez19?
Do you understand WHO and WHAT those vampires are—the ones sucking our blood and draining our human energy?

We haven't even opened our eyes to the world yet, and they're already teaching us how to spit on ourselves.
On God's own purest CREATION.
Before we can even get a decent foothold, they're shoving us into molds of "spiritual" belonging, schools, or denominations.
Hardly able to form words, and they're already trying to fit us into their little books.

Can you feel that Master's "HELL," Karen Sanchez19?
That hellish MATHEMATICS that turns you against YOURSELF and everyone else?
You have to suppress YOURSELF based on the literal words of their LIES.

How much energy is thrown into the WIND of jealousy?
How many teeth are gnashed during our most beautiful moments?
How much EVIL is inside US, which we then force upon ourselves?

And we struggle like this, gnawing at each other through life, just to suck up to the HOLY SERVERS
who pin us to the GROUND like lizards instead of humans.

Abraham the Troglodyte, Buddha the LUNATIC, Jesus the Narcissist, Muhammad the Spokesperson—they are all architects of this HELLISH BULLSHIT regarding our miserable and pathetic existence.
Not a single COSMOLOGOS truly WOKE them up, Karen Sanchez19 and Parsifal.

Only the "AWAKENING" of absolute consciousness will make you a LOVER of the universe.
If you love EVERYTHING THAT IS, it's because you finally understood the true nature of this and that world.

From what depths of mind and reason, and from what shackles of a black heart, could you ever call anyone UNWORTHY of God?
From what formulas would you then shape and support ONLY YOUR OWN tribe?
How could you call God's naked child and humanity dirty and impure?

That is how HELL was created, Karen Sanchez19.
In our heads first.
By pouring the words of a few MASSIVE FOOLS into our small ears.😎 😁

So they all taught us that we are unworthy?
Is that why we experience pain and suffering?

I've learned there's no point arguing with you, because you always take words out of context and twist them—you never give a straight answer, just more rambling about something else entirely.

But I have to show up and write, because the stupidity gets under my skin.

Take, for example, a small child who hasn't been taught anything yet and "doesn't know" the difference between good and evil.
Why does something bad happen to that little kid? How can that be, if they haven't been fed the idea that good and evil exist, so they couldn't have "attracted" a bad event through that theory?
And yet, in a perfectly just universe, it happens to them.

Why does anyone experience pain and suffering? Even those who claim they don't believe in any laws (atheists). Who taught them they were unworthy, causing something bad to be imposed on them? Because according to what you say, they should always be happy.
They aren't to blame for anything. I mean—how can someone who hasn't turned their back on God—basically, someone who hasn't warped their own reality by breaking the laws and falling into an illusion—be anything other than joyful, wise, and creative? (And that’s just scratching the surface of God's attributes, let's be real).

So, are we actually like that?
Or are you still insisting we aren't just because someone told us so—even though, deep down, we would be?

Nobody is telling us we aren't worthy; they're just laying out simple facts—the fact that there is a path back home, back to a real life.
And that path means living according to the laws that govern the entire universe and life itself.
We’ve wandered off, and those of us living "normally" would honestly love to find our way back. That's all it is.

The truth is, we haven't actually gone anywhere; our consciousness is just narrowed. We can't see who and what we truly are, so instead, we see this... version of life that involves nothing but suffering.

Ever since I was a tiny kid—for as long as I can remember—I've often heard this quiet inner voice guiding me. It would tell me what to do, what was right, why things were the way they were, stuff like that. And back then (and honestly, even later, though I can't prove it), nobody was brainwashing me about "good" versus "evil."

Besides, why did you claim that spirituality is a deadly game (which, yeah, I agree with) if you're simultaneously arguing that everything is irrelevant—that we can do whatever we want and still end up at the destination (ourselves)?

I'll add this: to me, all religions are good because they all say the same thing.
I think that's true for anyone who actually understands religion.
That pretty much kills your whole argument about fighting for your flock of sheep.😛
hollowviper72 hollowviper72 Regular
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#213 ·
It’s honestly never worth getting into an argument with sophists, nimblecobra79. 😉

For instance, John says:

Man, it's just that NONE OF YOU LIARS ARE DEEMED WORTHY OF THE UNIVERSE HERE & NOW.

In this case, he’s referring to all those different types of teachers. Of course—because that’s just how it goes—the fact that he’s sitting here right now trying to "teach" us something will be met with arguments claiming that he isn't actually teaching anyone at all. Just blah, blah, blah. 😁

Honestly, kids these days... 😛
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#214 ·
Gautama Buddha, Master John is going to provide his response to your "BLA-BLA-BLA" remark regarding his "Challenge."
Crazy child has already been "addressed."👋
hiddenpuma75 hiddenpuma75 Regular
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#215 ·
Jose Reyes said:Abraham, Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad all tell us the same thing: we simply aren't good enough to please God on our own.

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Abraham the Troglodyte, Buddha the Lunatic, Jesus the Narcissist, and Muhammad the Spokesperson—they’re all just architects of this hellish, endless, and utterly miserable battle we find ourselves fighting.
Karen Sanchez19, hiddenpuma75—none of them have actually achieved a full Awakening Predisposition.

...............

That’s exactly how hell was created, Karen Sanchez19.
It all starts within our own minds.
Coming straight from the mouths of a handful of HUGE FOOLS in our little corner of the US. 😎 😁


Our very own resident forum expert has certainly been busy lately, putting out quite a lot of writing over the last few days and even heading into this week.
It’s more than just a little; it’s actually quite a lot.

I’d like to make an announcement to our Master and everyone currently using his services.
If only we could all be blessed with the touch of a Master John—the kind of guy who can actually fix just about anything you throw at him.

He managed to sneak two massive blunders right into that bombastic presentation of his.

There are two mistakes that simply don't sit right with anyone claiming to be a spiritual teacher.

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So, basically...

First off, we’re looking at a methodological error here. We can try to wrap our heads around it, sure, but there's no way we can just let it slide. However, the second mistake is much more serious—and that's because it's rooted in hard, cold facts. 🙂

First off:

As the brilliant Blake once told John: "To generalize is to be an idiot."

Our good friend Master John has gone ahead and lumped Judaism, Buddhism, Christianity, and Islam all into one single bucket, attempting to generalize them under one umbrella. His mistake? He’s grouping them all together based on what he considers a shared, incorrect interpretation of their core theological principles—but I’ll dive into the specifics of why that's wrong in point number two.

It’s becoming pretty clear that our good old Master John isn't exactly "well-versed" in these matters. He's definitely lost his footing on some rather slippery ground, and honestly, that's just a plain fact.

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So, there you have it—those are the mistakes, and they’re pretty significant.

Jose Reyes is being completely unfair here. Honestly, how can anyone be so stubborn? The facts clearly show that he's misattributed this entirely.

Regarding Abraham and his connection to Judaism...
The essence of enlightenment—truly becoming Buddha Dharmi.
Jesus—specifically regarding Christianity.
Regarding Muhammad and Islam.

Yes: ''quoting

Abraham, Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad all tell us the same thing: we simply aren't good enough to please God on our own.

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This sentence really belongs in the "greatest shit" category. 🙂 It feels like we have this one specific topic popping up on pretty much every single subforum we visit. It’s become a bit of a recurring theme, isn't it?

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It’s a widely held sentiment that Christianity alone clings to such a distorted theological dogma—and if you ask me, theology is nothing more than a tapestry woven from lies.

If we accept that humans are inherently flawed, then it follows that our very existence—our "imperfect birth," if you will—is part of that same broken pattern.

The whole concept surrounding the dogma of Eastern Sin is such an interesting thing to unpack. It’s one of those heavy theological topics that really makes you stop and think about how we perceive morality and our connection to the divine. When you dive into it, you realize it isn't just some dry rulebook; it’s a fundamental way of looking at the human condition and our inherent flaws. I've always found it fascinating how these deep-seated ideas shape so much of our spiritual journey.

So, basically, John's previous post was only referring to Christianity.

I’ve actually been putting some thought into this lately and even sat down to write a bit about it. My main takeaway is that Judaism, Buddhism, and Islam all stand in such sharp opposition to these untruthful Christian doctrines.

Even prominent Catholic theologians—take someone like Matthew Fox, who was famously suspended by the Vatican—make the case in his book *Original Blessing* that the whole concept of Eastern Sin is fundamentally flawed and completely goes against nature.

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So, Buddha explicitly states that every single person is already perfect exactly as they are, and that the very essence of Buddha resides within all of us.

He’s well-known for that one striking statement of his.

There isn't a single speck of dust in existence that won't eventually become an Arhat.

It feels a bit out of place to mix Buddha with the concept of God, especially considering how our own Master approaches things. Buddhism, in its purest sense, doesn't really rely on the idea of an almighty God.

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Both Judaism and Islam also make it very clear that we are born from God in a state of perfection. They completely reject that distorted Christian doctrine regarding what they call Eastern Sin.

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Honestly, our dear self-taught Master could probably use a quick refresher on the fundamentals of comparative religion. It would be a huge favor to him—just so he doesn't end up embarrassing himself in front of a distinguished American audience of ladies again. 🙂
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#216 ·
hiddenpuma75, you absolute gem of a Master's disciple!😁 😉

Perhaps this single point should be enough for you to finally grasp the sheer foresight of the Master.
It is a point you brought upon yourself by dragging it into this "forum."

Buddha & Parsifal:
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NOT A SINGLE SPECK OF DUST WILL FAIL TO BECOME AN ARHAT
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Every single speck of dust is already an Arhat, hiddenpuma75.
Yet, you persist in your delusions.

You dared to criticize Master John, expressing dissatisfaction with his teachings regarding the "mindful observation of our mucus-filled vessels," a method the Buddha prescribed to his naive followers.
They called it Vipasati.

What more could you possibly need from that, hiddenpuma75?
The Master offers you nothing but the naked truth regarding a certain "ABUSE," one that occurred two and a half millennia ago.
Poor Buddha, not knowing what would become of his people or how to handle them, prescribed a pacifier of a technique just to soothe their restless searching.

First, where did he get the idea that there is such a thing as a transcendent "beyond" and that it can even be reached?
If it cannot be reached, why do you obsessively pose in a Vipasati posture?

Second, if "every being is PERFECT," then what purpose do these exercises and instructions serve for that very being?
To become... SOMETHING, hiddenpuma75?
Is it possible to be even more perfect?
Or perhaps just a little more schizophrenic?

Third, this notion of "REALIZATION"—no matter how subtly that "realization" is phrased—can only ever be the fabrication of a dense and convoluted "SELF."
According to that wretched Buddha, this is the final obstacle on his path to Nirvana.

Fourth, why does the Buddha even possess the predisposition for a "PATH," hiddenpuma75?
Anything that possesses a beginning and an end cannot lead to "ETERNITY."
It leads only to the fatal error of imposing categories of SPACE and TIME upon the search for the OTHERWORLDLY.
SPACE and TIME are merely the pillars of "material consciousness."
The very things that bound you to Mother Earth.

Enough about Gautama the Gelipter.
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When delivering his sharp insights regarding the "three mastodons" and "one iguana" among the beginners,
Master John doesn't even need to be painstakingly precise.
He requires no special concentration whatsoever.
And for what, hiddenpuma75?
For the fact that they all preach your precious "Eastern Sin" from their lists.
What exactly is this "Eastern Sin"?
Once you clear away the heavy floods of debris, wood, and stone consisting of vulgar rhetoric, the "Eastern Sin" is nothing more than the "sin" of human "imperfection."

You must grovel before Allah just as much as you do before Brahmi.
You must bow to Yahweh just as you do to Jesus's father.
You aren't truly good to any God until you've laid yourself prostrate at His feet.

Abraham, Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad have all been laid low.
All in the same posture where blood thumps in your temples and nonsense flashes through your mind.
We worship RIDICULOUSNESS, hiddenpuma75.
We worship those who have conditioned our lives to be HELL ON EARTH.
By labeling us "IMPERFECT."

We bow to FASCIST types who steal GOD from our eyes and from our very wombs.
The GOD in whom we are "immersed," and who is "immersed" in us.
Within the transparency of His and our simultaneous perfection.

It is time we realized how we have all been To Deceived, hiddenpuma75.
Otherwise, we will pay a heavy price.
But then again, if that is how God wills it?🙄 😎
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#217 ·
They’ve got Abraham, Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad all turned upside down.
Everyone stuck in that exact same pose—where the blood starts thumping against your temples and nothing but pure nonsense flashes through your brain.

What kind of "pose" is that even supposed to be??????????

Maybe you mean just standing on your head??????
🙂 🙂
I actually tried practicing that once... though I can't tell if it was the exercise or if my skull is just creaking under the pressure. Honestly, I'm half afraid it might actually crack.🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#218 ·
We bow down to the FASHISOIDS who strip the very concept of GOD from our eyes and tear it from our souls.
The God in whom we are "submerged," just as He is submerged in US.
Lost within His translucence and our simultaneous perfection.

It’s high time we realize how everyone has worked to deceive us, Parsifal.

Well, if everything is "pre-programmed" anyway... then I guess nobody ever gets deceived, right?

I suppose if you were truly in an "enlightened
state," you wouldn't even be allowed to feel like you've been deceived.😕 😎 😁
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#219 ·
Karen Sanchez19:
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I suppose if you were truly in an
enlightened
state, you wouldn't be left with this nagging sensation that someone is trying to deceive you.
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😎 The Master "possesses" all sorts of "feelings" right up until the moment you stop merely making assumptions, Karen Sanchez19.
Ryan Ruiz Ryan Ruiz Member
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#220 ·
righteousness said:There is a question that has been weighing on my mind for quite some time now...
I’ve been thinking quite a bit about whether any of us truly needs to find that one single, definitive spiritual teacher who can point the way forward and show us our specific path. It feels like there is this widespread idea that we should be searching for one ultimate authority figure to guide us, but I personally struggle with the notion that such a singular person exists for everyone. In my view, the journey is much more personal than that, and while a great mentor can certainly offer clarity or act as a catalyst for growth, the actual direction usually comes from within ourselves rather than from a single external source.
Should you be the one to reach out and initiate contact, or is it better to just sit back and wait for some kind of sign that they might actually be interested in talking to you?
Do you honestly believe that, following the logic of Lennon’s thread about "the people sent to us," we should just be sitting around waiting for some kind of Teacher to finally reveal themselves to us?


I truly believe that we have the capacity to serve as our own spiritual teachers, provided we stay dedicated to the work of self-improvement and the constant uplifting of our own spirits.
If we happen to cross paths with people who actually have something intelligent to contribute and can teach us something meaningful, then that’s a win in my book. There's really no reason to limit yourself to just one perspective or rely on a single individual for wisdom. You're going to gain a much richer, more complete understanding of the world if you make the effort to listen to a diverse range of voices.
I reached out to him because I felt like I really needed to talk to someone, but he never actually got back to me, so I just stopped calling since it’s pretty obvious he isn't going to be able to help me.
I’m not sitting around waiting for someone to come along and show me the way, because I’ve been doing my own searching and teaching myself everything I can from the ground up. It might be a little easier if I eventually found someone who could offer some extra support or guidance, but honestly, I am perfectly fine forging my own path for now.

righteousness said:So, here it is. I’ve been dealing with a real struggle lately... I’ve been going through a serious spiritual crisis for quite some time now, and honestly, I feel pretty lost. I really need someone to step in and help point me back toward the right path.
I feel like I’m just drowning in this endless sea of commercials, targeted ads, and those late-night radio preachers.
How am I supposed to know when I've finally found the right one?
The absolute worst part of this whole mess was that I actually went through the trouble of coordinating schedules with both of them individually, only to have them both push me back at the last minute by citing their "official" business trips.
So, does that mean those teachers are essentially "the problem" in my eyes, or is there even such a thing as a "right" kind of teacher out there?
The person posting above isn't actually recommending anyone to me. 🙂 🙂

I'm feeling a bit lost right now and honestly don't know where to turn, so I wanted to reach out and ask for some advice on what I should do next. 🙂 🙏

You really have to be the one to figure out your own path, which basically means you need to develop a clear vision of what the right direction actually looks like for you personally. Someone else might be able to point you toward a compass or offer some guidance along the way, but at the end of the day, finding that road is a journey you have to undertake entirely on your own.

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