Spiritual Teacher?!

Jack Harris3 said:It’s become such a massive phenomenon lately, yet for three years now, I still can't wrap my head around what it actually is... 😁

I’m genuinely curious too, which is why I’m making such a fuss on here, (though maybe someone will offer me a little incentive... 😍 ) ...

but hold on (!?), we'll just have to wait and see where this all leads...

anyway, goodnight, I need to get up early... another long trip ahead...

p.s. I've been thinking, it has to be connected to that whole enlightenment thing, right (?!) ....

RzKzotrz:
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Is this a definitive claim, or just a momentary slip regarding legitimacy? (In response to Goldman Sachs)
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The latter.🙂

ENLIGHTENED MASTER said:By acting this way, Master John is stripping both Jesus and Muhammad of any right to enlightenment, hiddenpuma75.

Both Buddha and Jesus, along with Muhammad, are the true architects of Hell on this Earth.

It’s because they were the ones who first ignited Hell within our own souls.😕 🙄 😉

Honestly, you haven't convinced me at all; your reasoning feels pretty thin.
If you're going to make such radical claims, you really ought to present them with a bit more elegance and depth.

By the way—you're actually the one responsible for how clunky and hard to follow your posts are.

Do yourself a favor and learn how to use the quote feature at the bottom of the post to reply specifically to someone; it makes everything much clearer.

Your writing is a total mess to read because you just use basic copy-paste, making it impossible to tell who is saying what.

From the very moment Parsifal joined this list, Master Ivan has voiced consistent criticisms regarding her visual and graphic orientation.
Is there any point in even discussing the terminology used here? When we look at how users are labeled—referring to a "forumist" using exclusively masculine descriptors in their profiles—it raises certain questions about our standards. And then there is the matter of the quoting system; why continue with this outdated method of displaying a fading username instead of simply using a clean "QUOTE" tag? It seems we are clinging to inefficient habits when better ways exist.

Master Ivan would much rather manually type out "Parsifal" followed by two dots than sit there listening to some sterile, Anglo-Saxon electronic "replay" command.
It is truly remarkable how incomprehensible Master Ivan’s "posts" actually are when you consider their sheer lack of substance.

Parsifal:
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I find myself entirely unconvinced, and frankly, I believe your reasoning is rather thin.
If you're going to make such radical assertions, shouldn't you perhaps attempt to explain them with a bit more elegance?
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Radicalism is nothing more than a mental construct, Parsifal; it exists solely within the confines of our own perceptions.
The deeper you descend into the thick of the fray, the more radical these "new" ideologies inevitably become.

Master Ivan wouldn't dream in his wildest fantasies that you would react to his "radical" approach with such immediate, unbridled hostility.
That is because you buried that poor, unenlightened Gautam Buddha right alongside your own ego.

Forget those "magnificent" spirits you keep talking about for a second; they don't make Master Ivan’s creation nearly as "radical" as you seem to believe.
Forget about Gautam Buddha, and frankly, forget everyone else too.
Take a moment to contemplate Master Ivan’s little hypothesis—it is remarkably simple, quite clear, and laid out with such striking brevity.
Of course, you're treating that as nothing more than an assumption.
For Master Ivan, this is simply his destiny—it is the absolute truth.

So, Master Ivan is asking you, Parsifal, if you actually grasp what he’s referring to when he talks about the fragmentation of the human personality?
Or perhaps we should be discussing the "polarization" of the "self" between the "observer" and the "ego"?
Or should we call it a total "schizophrenia" of the individual consciousness?

And then, if you really think about it, there is that one "vampire" who sits there, sucking the very lifeblood out of all of you "decision-makers" while you're busy being drained?
Look, if you simply cannot grasp this one fundamental point, then we are never going to reach enlightenment.🙏 👍

ENLIGHTENED MASTER said:Is it a "polarization" of the "self" between the "visionary" and the "ego"?
Or just "schizophrenia" within an individual consciousness?

And then, if you ask me, there’s also that ONE "vampire"... the one sucking the life and blood right out of people as indecisive as you all are...

So, I went ahead and asked my two versions of Joe Biden.

Microsoft told me, "What kind of vampires are you talking about? Stop talking nonsense." 🙄

Elon Musk said that whenever Microsoft seems a little too pale, he sends him to bed as punishment. 😁

But then again, maybe that's not even what Elon Musk said... He can't really write anything down, and you can't trust a word from Microsoft. They both just twist everything to suit themselves... 😁

Hey Jack Harris3, are those little pups of yours being kept safe from any vampire attacks?
What on earth have you named your little Cherubs, if I may be so bold as to ask?🙂 😠 👍 😎 👋

They aren't keeping them safe. It’s not like Jack Harris3 is being stingy or anything, they just... let things slide a little bit... 😁
When your head starts spinning from sheer weakness, it becomes way too easy to reach for a heavy hitter like a shotgun or maybe some silver bullets... 😁
And whatever they ended up swallowing, it just keeps regenerating over and over again. And so it goes... 😁

You can't truly grasp anything without a direct confrontation. We have to face our own illusions head-on; there's simply no way to dodge them. That is why the search is vital. It isn't some quest to become ENLIGHTENED—enlightenment is merely the *aftermath*. It’s what happens once we finally collide with the illusion. Every action has a reaction.

But even the one doing the confronting—the "confronter"—is nothing more than a figment of the imagination...
Which means their very attempt at confrontation is just another layer of the illusion...
No, no, no... let me rephrase... it’s as if there was never anyone there to face it in the first place. Because at the moment of enlightenment, the "I" (that whole personality construct) becomes a mere object. In that sense, there is no distinction between us and a tree...

Look, you can keep pushing my buttons all you want, but I have to admit—your posts are actually getting sharper.
The only question left is whether you even realize what you're saying.

I don't need to grasp any of this... thinking doesn't help here... in fact, it just gets in the way...
The less I understand, the better.🙏
It simply arrives as a raw fact...

You’re acting so high-strung; here, take the bone and bite it...🙂

YOU ALONE are nothing more than an ILLUSION,
Your "selfhood" is nothing more than a CLUSTER OF ILLUSIONS.
If you begin a "search" in that manner, you are inviting SCHIZOPHRENIA into your soul.
If you fracture YOURSELF, from YOURSELF, into an ILLUSION that dissects another ILLUSION, it will be as if a VAMPIRE is draining you dry.

Fine, I guess I look like I'm just copying you now... but really, I'm just following the sequence.🙂

Because they first created a hellish existence within themselves.

There’s just one thing I don't get here... Jose Reyes...

They didn't create anything. It's already a living hell on earth. And what about the people who have never even heard of them, let alone spoken of them? Who created a hell for those people?
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Jose Reyes said:Once Karen Sanchez19 is finally ENLIGHTENED, they’ll be known as the Master of the Blind Chicken.👋 🙂 😁 😢 😳 🙏 👋 🙂

You’ve gone ahead and clicked every single emoji available on the sidebar...🙂

Then we won't be talking about the Master of the Blind Chicken; we'll be talking about the Master of the chicken that finally found its sight...

Or perhaps the Master Chicken with Night Owls.🙂

So, the MASTER is asking you, Parsifal, do you even grasp what HE is referring to here as the SPLITTING OF THE HUMAN PERSONALITY?
Or perhaps "POLARIZATION" of the "SELF" into the "OBSERVER" and the "EGO"?
Or maybe just "Schizophrenia" of the individual consciousness?

I fail to see how the self can split into an observer... I can wrap my head around splitting from the ego, sure... but into an observer? What kind of observer is that? The word itself implies someone standing on the sidelines... how can the self split into an observer that exists outside of the self?
It sounds impossible. An observer stands apart from the self; they aren't a component of it.

Karen Sanchez19 said:But even the one who is doing the facing—the "confronter"—is just as much a figment of the imagination...
And that's why their confrontation is nothing more than an illusion..
No, no, no... I don't think anyone is actually confronting anything here... because once you reach enlightenment, we (as personalities) become mere objects... and in that sense, there truly is no difference between us and a tree...

Well, that really depends on how you personally perceive enlightenment. And since you aren't ENLIGHTENED—and frankly, neither am I—any guessing at this point is just pure speculation.

That being said, I still firmly believe that this whole "waiting school" concept is total nonsense. A person who never stops to ask will never receive an answer. But the moment you start to ask, you are already on the quest.

It seems to me like you all might have completely misconstrued what the principle of passivity actually means...

Karen Sanchez19:
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They didn't even start anything meaningful... what a hellish existence on this earth we endure... and what about the people who have never heard of them or read a single word about them? Who was it that unleashed this hell upon them?
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Karen Sanchez19, stop wasting your breath on trivialities.
The Master John speaks regarding "TODAY."
He describes a world where three religious "titans" and one religious "iguana" all claw for their own version of "TRUTH," each protecting their own flock.

Buddhists, Christians, Muslims, and Jews.
The planet Earth is governed and regulated by religious Schizophrenia.
And all four of these VOIDS condition, nurture, and fail to cure this SCHIZOPHRENIA.
One follows after the other, in a perpetual cycle.

The Master John diagnoses this hellish state like this, Karen Sanchez19:

Both Abraham, Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad tell us that MAN IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO PLEASE GOD.

Like four orangutans from Sumatra, if they were to stumble upon SELFHOOD tomorrow, they would simply sit there wailing about a lost DIVINE KINGDOM.

Follow the pattern, Karen Sanchez19.
The MASTER'S FORMULA FOR HELL.

The HELLISH FORMULA dictates that SALVATION, NIRVANA, PARADISE, ENLIGHTENMENT... MUST BE BLOODILY EARNED.
First, because you are unworthy of GOD.
Second, because you must earn GOD.

Do you see WHO and WHAT separates us from God of ours, Karen Sanchez19?
Do you realize WHO and WHAT those vampires are, sucking our blood, our spirit, and our very human energy?

We can barely find our footing in this world before we are already being taught how to spit on ourselves.
Upon the purest of GOD'S CREATIONS.
Before we have even mastered basic survival, we are forced into the molds of "spiritual" affiliations, schools, or denominations.
Hardly able to grasp the alphabet, and already we are being coerced by their holy books.

Do you grasp this MASTER'S "hell," Karen Sanchez19?
This hellish MATHEMATICS that turns you into an enemy of your own selfhood, and everyone else's?
You are forced to restrain your own SELFHOOD according to the literal words of their LIES.

How much energy has been cast into the WIND OF ENVY?
How much teeth-gritting occurs during our most beautiful moments?
How much EVIL resides within US, which we inflict upon ourselves?

And so we struggle, gnawing at ourselves through life, just to curry favor with HOLY SERVANTS
who pin us to the ground like lizards, rather than treating us as humans.

Abraham the troglodyte, Buddha the LUNATIC, Jesus the narcissist, Muhammad the spokesperson—they are all the architects of this HELLISH BULLSHIT of our miserable and pathetic existence.
The COSMOLOGOS has not truly AWAKENED any of them, Karen Sanchez19 or Parsifal.

Only the "AWAKENING" of ABSOLUTE CONSCIOUSNESS will make you a LOVER OF THE UNIVERSE.
If you love EVERYTHING THAT IS, it is because you have understood the true nature of this and that world.

From what depths of mind and reason, or from what shackles of a dark heart, could you ever call ANYONE unworthy of God?
From what formulas would you then shape and support ONLY YOUR OWN TRIBE?
How could you call a naked child of God dirty or impure?

That is how HELL was created, Karen Sanchez19.
First, inside our own heads.
Spoken from the mouths of a few ENORMOUS FOOLS into our small ears.😎 😁

Karen Sanchez19:
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I honestly don't understand how one's selfhood can split into an observer... I can wrap my head around the ego, but an observer? By definition, an observer is someone standing on the sidelines, so how can the selfhood somehow fracture into an observer that exists outside of itself?
It sounds impossible, because an observer is external to the self, not a component of it.
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Of course it can't, Karen Sanchez19.
But you see, that is exactly the trap set for us by Abraham, Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad.
They achieve this by forcing that SPLIT within the original, whole human being—dividing us into sides of GOOD and EVIL.

Nowadays, those fraudulent spiritual "Gurus" use that exact same tactic.

It’s all tied to this "ego" concept you mentioned.
The "EGO," Karen Sanchez19, can only exist because of this fabricated DUALITY.
The "EGO" is presented as something you must "transcend," "discard," "suppress," or "overcome."
But who exactly is supposed to perform these actions WITHIN US?
It is that FUCKING imaginary, pathological "Watcher" they claim exists, Karen Sanchez19.
You cannot simply "assign" yourself an "EGO" without also creating a supposed level within yourself that is "BETTER" than that "EGO."
A level that serves to legitimize that very "EGO."
And in doing so, they effectively PROLONG your own potential AWAKENING for all eternity.👋

hollowviper72:
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A man who never stops to ask himself anything will never receive an answer. But once you begin to ask, you have already embarked upon the search.
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Where exactly does the DRIVE for this "QUESTIONING" come from, hollowviper72?
What is the source of that initial—and truly INITIATING—energetic impulse that compels us to act?
The urge to "discern" whether something holds true.
The drive to pose that very question of destiny?
We have already established that you cannot simply conjure such a thing out of thin air.
Not even those four orangutans on Sumatra, should they ever stumble upon the concept of "individual consciousness," could ever claim that THEY were the ones who achieved it on their own.

hollowviper72:
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And yet, I still maintain that this whole idea of a "school of learning" is utter nonsense.
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Every "school" is nothing more than a common distraction, hollowviper72.
These "schools" were founded by the elites who viewed us as unworthy of God of ours.
It is hardly surprising, then, that we treat our own kind—and everyone else—with such unworthiness. 🙄

Jose Reyes said:hollowviper72:

Where on earth do you get the DRIVE for this whole "questioning" thing, hollowviper72?
Where does that initial—and let's call it what it is, the INITIATING—energetic impulse to act actually come from?
The urge to "discern" if something is valid.
To pose that one fateful, soul-searching ASK?
We already established that you can't just conjure it up out of thin air yourself.

No... that was something *you* eventually said.

Every single "school of thought" is nothing more than a common distraction, hollowviper72.

That sounds like a classic line from a kid who hasn't even brushed up against a single actual school of philosophy. You probably picked that up from that one half-finished book you skimmed before deciding you were suddenly ENLIGHTENED, didn't you? 😁

"Schools" were founded by those arrogant types who looked down on us as unworthy of God.

Total nonsense—you haven't even grasped the core concept of schools of thought, let alone the fact that there isn't a god in Buddhism.

Jose Reyes said:Do you actually understand WHO and WHAT these VAMPIRES are... those things sucking our blood and draining all our human energy?

So that's what you were thinking? Sorry, I guess we weren't on the same page then...
What I was talking about was something else entirely, something way more "harmless." 😁

The ones you're bringing up... they drained their own people a long time ago, so they definitely didn't even cross my mind. 😂

I get what you're saying, for instance, I find Buddha to be one of the most disgusting 😁, but I still wouldn't hold them responsible.
Just like I wouldn't blame you if you told me to jump off a bridge and I actually did it. 😁

That all depends on how you perceive enlightenment. And since you aren't ENLIGHTENED, and frankly, neither am I, any guessing is just a waste of breath.

Still, I maintain that this whole "waiting room" concept is absolute nonsense. A man who never stops to ask himself questions will never stumble upon an answer. The moment you start asking, the search has already begun.

Fine then... let him wonder... because I’m asking too...

I already tried to ask Jose Reyes, but he gave me nothing...
Did he ever bother to ask "those kinds of things" before he hit twenty-five? You know, before his supposed moment of enlightenment?😕 😕

Karen Sanchez19, stop wasting breath on trivialities.
The master, John, is discussing "TODAY."
He's talking about a world where three religious "titans" and one religious "iguana" all claw at one another, each clutching their own version of "TRUTH" and guarding their specific flock.

The fault doesn't lie with those three leaders. No, the blame rests with IMMATURE people... individuals who care nothing for truth or faith... they only crave... IDOLATRY...

Even if Christians believed in a Golden Hen, you’d still see clashes with those worshipping a golden donkey...
It isn't about Buddha, or Muhammad, or Jesus...
At most, they are merely perceptions held by a person...
What actually matters is human culture (and modern society seems to be drifting further and further away from faith... or so it appears to me)...
Look at the Third World. Those stuck in the past cling desperately to their idols, and that is why we see terrorism today... if you can even call it that...

This has nothing to do with Jesus; I repeat, it's about the mindset of the people and their culture...
Jesus has nothing to do with enlightenment or the truth of the current world... he is simply an ICON... just like a golden hen or a golden donkey.

Furthermore, it all comes down to the "type of people" we are dealing with...

Buddhists, Christians, Muslims, and Jews.
The entire planet is being governed and leveled by this "religious" schizophrenia.
And all four of these EMPTY VOIDS foster, nurture, and refuse to CURE this SCHIZOPHRENIA.
Some just arrived a little earlier than others.

How can you not see? Faith and organized religion aren't the results of what Jesus or Buddha taught...
Faith and Church are products of the human mentality..
Before and after Jesus, people were naturally searching for and bowing to SECULAR laws....
Terrified and feeling isolated and abandoned on this earth, they simply invented IDOLS to believe in. But it worked like this: "If I follow the rules, then this 'idol' will protect me from sickness, bring me luck, and so on..."

Throughout history, God has been nothing more than an IDOL for humanity... in reality, the concept of God didn't emerge from a pursuit of TRUTH... IT EMERGED FROM THE CONCEPT OF AN IDOL (this is crucial)
God is a "being" more powerful than man... an imagined being. A Great Emperor and Ruler... the byproduct of IDOLATRY, not the byproduct of a "search" for truth...

This is as clear as day.