Would you get your kids vaccinated against COVID?

Susan Martin4 said:Can I answer for her?

All the adults got the shot, but I’m drawing the line at my kids.
We didn't get vaccinated just to stay infection-free—I'm realistic enough to know we'll all end up catching COVID sooner or later. For me, it was about avoiding the heavy stuff and death. My parents are older and have health issues, so they were especially careful to get vaccinated to lower their risk of a fatal outcome. It was also about lowering the chance that I'd pass it on to them while trying to protect myself.

From what I can see, kids aren't seeing high death rates. I haven't heard anything about massive numbers of severe complications among them, so I don't think they need the vaccine right now.

So, I'm not one of those people claiming vaccination prevents you from getting infected. We're protecting ourselves against worse outcomes.

And no, I don't consider mRNA to be gene therapy. Besides, there are other types of vaccines out there besides mRNA.

raven-shield said:...if my stance interferes with your constitutionally guaranteed right to freedom of choice in this democratic nation, then feel free to go apply for citizenship in North Korea or Saudi Arabia, where you legally won't have any freedom of choice regarding many things at all.
I honestly think you'd enjoy it there. Go ahead and get vaccinated—take a 74th dose or a 115th booster if that's what you want, for yourself or your kids for all I care, because you don't have the right to impose anything on us or make your choices a condition for everyone else.

Bradley Collins32 said:Congrats on not vaccinating your kids, but I’m hoping an intelligent person will finally give me a straight, logical answer as to why you and your wife actually did get the shots.

Most answers I hear boil down to:

1. Not wanting to get sick.
2. Wanting to travel.
3. Keeping my job.

The first one makes sense, and I assume that’s where you'll land, so let me ask: Why do you trust Beros, Capak, Fauci, and Gates more than Judy Mikovits, Mike Yeadon, Sucharit Bhakdi, Peter McCullough, Luc Montagnier, Geert Vanden Bosche, or Vladimir Zelenko?

It’s highly suspicious that you put your faith in the same people who helped create this virus. They’re providing the "solution" via mRNA therapy, which they’re mislabeling as a vaccine. You didn't get vaccinated; you underwent gene therapy. That isn't a vaccine.

Bradley Collins32 said:I suggest reading at least points 23, 24, 25, 26, and 27:
https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/22/...vid-cribsheet/

Lisa Jackson7 said:Yeah, point number one—first things first.

If I were younger, I’d be doing everything in my power to fix my health and boost my immunity—I mean, honestly, I feel like I didn't even have a choice... and even with all those shady questions surrounding how this pandemic actually started, that wouldn't have changed my mind one bit.
Look, maybe Fauci and Gates aren't exactly saints in this whole mess—but honestly? Right now, I just need to figure out how to protect my family and myself.

This whole "gene therapy" masquerading as a vaccine? Yeah, I'm not buying it—not even close.

I started reading this from the jump, then bailed right after point one... I know way too many people dealing with long-term fallout from this sickness.

Everyone’s story is different—no doubt about that—but there are still a ton of people out there who haven't fully bounced back yet. Seriously. And until we figure out when they actually will, all this bickering over mortality rates is just noise... totally second-rate stuff.

black said:I just want to know which crazy parent would actually let their healthy kid be used as a guinea pig for these so-called "vaccine trials."

Bradley Collins32 said:Thanks for the reply. I expected a lot more seriousness from you regarding such a complex issue, but clearly, I overestimated you.

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Gerald Chavez7 said:Is it possible you're just confused and logged in under the wrong username? I checked, and wanderingfox86 hasn't had a single post deleted from this thread today—...not that I bothered checking anything earlier than August.

Amy Cruz8 said:Newborns "accidentally" vaccinated in Turkey

Unknown appeared on TV claiming a "larger number" of infants were mistakenly given COVID shots at medical facilities. Apparently, a study on these incidents is coming soon. Meanwhile, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has announced an administrative investigation.

Megan Green72 said:In what sense, exactly? How exactly do you think your kid gets a safe vaccine or medicine if it isn't tested on someone else first? 🤔

Oh, please, stop acting like you’re some kind of expert and lecturing me. If you’re so incredibly confident in all this, why don't you just go ahead and volunteer your own kid to be a guinea pig for the vaccine trial? Let's see how much you talk then...

brightviper29 said:Honestly, looking at these poll results is just plain terrifying.
Instead of people feeling relieved or happy that they actually have the choice to vaccinate their children, over 80% of you seem to be pushing back against it.
It feels like we’re dealing with a collective wave of madness here, almost like we've regressed to some medieval mindset—as if we were living under the thumb of the Inquisition, the old USSR, the former UN, or even modern-day South Korea. 🤦
I’d really like to ask the site admins to just lock this thread and wipe these poll results clean. 😁

I can't do anything with just a username. Give me some actual text to work with. kaže:
My posts got nuked, but whatever. It doesn't matter.I’m one of those people who gets called out for making a scene just because I’m personally against getting vaccinated. Look, I’ve got proof that my post was nuked. You can clearly see two different users tagging me in a thread that doesn't even exist anymore. And before anyone asks, I have no idea how you're supposed to log in with a fake handle. I'm not some obsessive forum troll who spends all day juggling multiple profiles. This is my only account.

Samuel Doyle5 said:I was at a clinic yesterday, and I noticed plenty of seniors there, but also kids being brought in by their parents.

Turns out, these kids are getting vaccinated just so they can complete their internships; apparently, you can't even show up for work if you aren't jabbed.

briskjackal5 said:The whole thing is trickier than it looks on the surface, I guess.

I’ve been digging through the stats over at the CDC, and man, they had something like 200,000 hospitalizations for people under 17 right here in the USA, and that was all just leading up to this past May.

-Stipe

briskjackal5 said:The whole thing is trickier than it looks on the surface, I guess.

I’ve been digging through the stats over at the CDC, and man, they had something like 200,000 hospitalizations for people under 17 right here in the USA, and that was all just leading up to this past May.

-Stipe

briskjackal5 said:The whole thing is trickier than it looks on the surface, I guess.

I’ve been digging through the stats over at the CDC, and man, they had something like 200,000 hospitalizations for people under 17 right here in the USA, and that was all just leading up to this past May.

-Stipe

Matthew Jackson2 said:But really, the real question is the nature of those admissions.

Because you can't just lump them all together; it is a completely different beast whether you're talking about a massive wave of kids with zero pre-existing health issues being hospitalized due to COVID symptoms, versus a group of kids with established high-risk factors being admitted for COVID, or—which is a huge distinction—kids who happened to test positive for the virus during an admission for an entirely unrelated medical issue.

Simply finding kids who test positive while they are already in the hospital for something else doesn't provide any meaningful argument for vaccination.

As for children who have known high-risk underlying conditions, this entire "risk vs. benefit" math falls apart for them, and they should absolutely be consulting with their own specialists regarding any vaccination decisions.

While I was hunting around trying to track down the specific breakdown for those numbers, I stumbled upon this link: https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/covidnet/COVID19_5.html

According to this link, within the specific area covered by the program—which represents roughly 10% of the population—there were a total of 4,123 COVID-related hospitalizations for those under 18, cumulatively up until September 18, 2021.

Honestly, I have no idea where that 200,000 figure you mentioned came from, because if we're seeing only 4,123 cases in a sample representing 10% of the population, then that 200,000 number seems incredibly dubious to me.

Furthermore, those 4,123 cases include everyone who tested positive upon admission, regardless of what actually brought them into the hospital in the first place.

Bradley Collins32 said:Quick question for you: Since when did science become a monolith? If COVID "science" isn't supposed to be one-sided, then why did the mainstream media go into full overdrive to axe any opinion that didn't fit the official narrative? I don't think there's a single expert out there who could look Judge Judy in the eye and say anything other than the truth: this COVID "science" has nothing to do with actual scientific integrity or humanity. If that's the case, why should anyone ever trust Beros or Fauci again?

Mark Richardson86 said:Science is supposed to be one cohesive thing, and the whole world seems to be pulling in the exact same direction right now... sure, there are dissenting voices, but they aren't the kind you're thinking of. Those little disagreements are just localized friction points in places like the UK, Australia, or various parts of Europe... roughly speaking... but hey, if you don't buy it, that's fine too.