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Would you get your kids vaccinated against COVID?

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Sam Wright21 Sam Wright21 Regular
402 messages
joined Jul 2016
#401 ·
lonegardener said:Exactly. You’re essentially training your body to react only to that specific fragment—the spike protein—rather than the entire virus itself.

That means if a mutated version of the virus comes along, all it takes is one small change to that specific "fragment" to make all that vaccine protection useless.

Now, this is a simplification, but the bottom line is that the natural immunity gained from actual exposure provides a much more robust defense than what you get from a vaccine.

The catch, however, is that natural immunity isn't a permanent shield either, and the price of admission—actually getting sick—is significantly higher. A neighbor was telling me just yesterday about an acquaintance who caught COVID; he was laughing it off at first because it seemed like a mild case. Fast forward a few months, and the man is in a coma with failing lungs.
Megan Green72 Megan Green72 Active Member
90 messages
joined May 2023
#402 ·
obelix88 said:What do you mean "instead of them" or "for them"? People get vaccinated for themselves—to protect their own skin. That’s totally fair. Getting a shot doesn't magically shield everyone else around you.

You're protecting those around you partially, obviously.
Susan Martin4 Susan Martin4 Active Member
130 messages
joined Apr 2023
#403 ·
When it comes to the flu, I’m getting my shot for the third year in a row.
As for the WHO vaccine, those guys can wait until there’s actual proof it won't leave people with long-term issues and that it actually does its job properly.
hiddendriver34 hiddendriver34 Regular
324 messages
joined Jan 2023
#404 ·
obelix88 said:I don't follow what you mean by "instead of them" or "for them." People get vaccinated for themselves—to protect their own health. That’s completely fair. Getting a shot doesn't magically shield everyone else standing next to you.

That logic works fine for adults. But when we talk about vaccinating kids, it’s really about boosting the overall community immunity percentage and looking out for those vulnerable groups who can't get shots themselves.

Look at countries that stayed open; they’ve hit vaccination rates as high as 95% among the elderly population.
Anthony Nelson3 Anthony Nelson3 Newcomer
1 message
joined Sep 2021
#405 ·
brightviper29 said:Honestly, looking at these poll results is just plain terrifying.
Instead of people feeling relieved or happy that they actually have the choice to vaccinate their children, over 80% of you seem to be pushing back against it.
It feels like we’re dealing with a collective wave of madness here, almost like we've regressed to some medieval mindset—as if we were living under the thumb of the Inquisition, the old USSR, the former UN, or even modern-day South Korea. 🤦
I’d really like to ask the site admins to just lock this thread and wipe these poll results clean. 😁

Don't sweat it, 🙂 polls are a joke because the anti-vax crowd has a massive army of clones here just spamming votes and repeating the same three lines in every single post. Actually, it's really just one line: "New phenomena will kill you in ten years." 🤣 They're convinced they know the truth.
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
382 messages
joined Jan 2013
#406 ·
Mark Richardson86 said:I know, I know... you people love to cherry-pick what you hear, always missing the bigger picture and the necessary context... it’s just so incredibly predictable...

Right, because we're basically just feeding kids this "big picture" nonsense so they can crawl back into that old-school version of normal instead of actually thinking for themselves as individuals, isn't that right?😁
Amanda Flores88 Amanda Flores88 Active Member
89 messages
joined May 2023
#407 ·
Anthony Nelson3 said:Don't sweat it, 🙂 polls are a joke because the anti-vax crowd has a massive army of clones here just spamming votes and repeating the same three lines in every single post. Actually, it's really just one line: "New phenomena will kill you in ten years." 🤣 They're convinced they know the truth.

Maybe think a little harder before posting? This isn't actually helping anyone get vaccinated.

Look, those of us who aren't rushing to grab a COVID-19 shot aren't claiming we know exactly how good or bad it is in the long run—it's actually the exact opposite.

The people pushing this vaccine act like they have all the answers. They claim there haven't been issues, won't be any issues, and nothing ever will be—from day one to forever.

I'm just not buying what they're selling.
Gerald Chavez7 Gerald Chavez7 Active Member
173 messages
joined Apr 2021
#408 ·
brightviper29 said:Honestly, looking at these poll results is just plain terrifying.
Instead of people feeling relieved or happy that they actually have the choice to vaccinate their children, over 80% of you seem to be pushing back against it.
It feels like we’re dealing with a collective wave of madness here, almost like we've regressed to some medieval mindset—as if we were living under the thumb of the Inquisition, the old USSR, the former UN, or even modern-day South Korea. 🤦
I’d really like to ask the site admins to just lock this thread and wipe these poll results clean. 😁

Look, forum polls are meant for entertainment and getting a conversation going—not for acting like a mirror of reality.

There was even a time during the presidential elections a couple cycles ago where Francklin D. Roosevelt won 39% of the vote on this forum, when in actual reality he only had 4%.
Lisa Jackson7 Lisa Jackson7 Regular
259 messages
joined Oct 2018
#409 ·
Amanda Flores88 said:Maybe think a little harder before posting? This isn't actually helping anyone get vaccinated.

Look, those of us who aren't rushing to grab a COVID-19 shot aren't claiming we know exactly how good or bad it is in the long run—it's actually the exact opposite.

The people pushing this vaccine act like they have all the answers. They claim there haven't been issues, won't be any issues, and nothing ever will be—from day one to forever.

I'm just not buying what they're selling.

Signed, every single word... 👍

My wife and I both got two doses, but we still have massive question marks—like, what about people with underlying health issues? Should they even bother?

We aren't vaccinating our kids—just too much risk involved...
Matthew Jackson2 Matthew Jackson2 Active Member
146 messages
joined Jan 2016
#410 ·
I have a question for these 31 individuals—those who apparently believe they’re always right—and I mean this sincerely: when you're sending your kids off to school in the morning, do you bother putting a helmet on them just in case they trip and hit their heads on the sidewalk? If you don't, I genuinely want to know why. Is the risk really not high enough for you to take even the most basic precaution? It seems absolutely reckless to me, frankly.
lonegardener lonegardener Regular
347 messages
joined Apr 2010
#411 ·
Sam Wright21 said:The catch, however, is that natural immunity isn't a permanent shield either, and the price of admission—actually getting sick—is significantly higher. A neighbor was telling me just yesterday about an acquaintance who caught COVID; he was laughing it off at first because it seemed like a mild case. Fast forward a few months, and the man is in a coma with failing lungs.

Let's get back to the kids.

When it comes to children, the "side effects" of COVID are statistically negligible in almost every scenario.

I honestly don't see the logic in rushing kids to get an experimental vaccine when we have no idea what the long-term impact might be—especially when we're trying to "protect" them from a threat that barely touches them.
lonegardener lonegardener Regular
347 messages
joined Apr 2010
#412 ·
Matthew Jackson2 said:I have a question for these 31 individuals—those who apparently believe they’re always right—and I mean this sincerely: when you're sending your kids off to school in the morning, do you bother putting a helmet on them just in case they trip and hit their heads on the sidewalk? If you don't, I genuinely want to know why. Is the risk really not high enough for you to take even the most basic precaution? It seems absolutely reckless to me, frankly.

If headquarters told everyone they had to wear helmets all day long—because you never know when a fall might happen and the consequences could be serious—you can bet some people would be forcing helmets on their kids from sunrise to sunset.
Keith Martin7 Keith Martin7 Member
21 messages
joined Jun 2022
#413 ·
I’d bet my life savings that at least 90% of those people who’ve already made up their minds about whether to vaccinate their kids actually don't have the slightest clue what they're signing up for.
And honestly, the health officials—let alone the political elites in D.C.—are just as clueless.

I’m just straight-up sick of people who act so incredibly certain about things they know absolutely nothing about. And I’m not just talking about them; I’m also looking at the people intentionally pushing them into making these massive decisions without any real information.
brightviper29 brightviper29 Member
47 messages
joined Aug 2017
#414 ·
Anthony Nelson3 said:Don't sweat it, 🙂 polls are a joke because the anti-vax crowd has a massive army of clones here just spamming votes and repeating the same three lines in every single post. Actually, it's really just one line: "New phenomena will kill you in ten years." 🤣 They're convinced they know the truth.

Alright, let’s try looking at this from the opposite angle for a second: imagine we’re still in that window where a vaccine hasn't been found yet, researchers are working around the clock, but unfortunately, they aren't seeing any results just yet. In a scenario like that, wouldn't we see another group of people emerging, ready to constantly claim that:
Is it just me, or does it feel like they’re dragging their feet on purpose, and honestly, what exactly are we all sitting around waiting for?
The cure has already been discovered, hasn't it? It’s sitting there somewhere, just being kept out of the public eye.
The vaccines are already out there; they've just been bought up by Soros and Bill Gates.
Honestly, isn't it pretty obvious that the Masons have all been vaccinated for ages?
Is it possible that the CIA and NASA are actually keeping secrets tucked away in the world's largest underground bunker?
We need to make sure this vaccine reaches every single corner of the country, from the biggest metropolitan hubs all the way down to the smallest rural towns and every doorstep in between. Don't we want to ensure that no community is left behind?
It’s really the same crowd, isn't it? You know the type—those same people who would be at the government's doorstep tomorrow, demanding that every single citizen be unconditionally vaccinated the very second a shot becomes available.

Gerald Chavez7 said:Look, forum polls are meant for entertainment and getting a conversation going—not for acting like a mirror of reality.

There was even a time during the presidential elections a couple cycles ago where Francklin D. Roosevelt won 39% of the vote on this forum, when in actual reality he only had 4%.

I was honestly moved to tears when I first heard the news about Michael. 🙂
I still have this little mental image stuck in my head from back when I used to read Rolling Stone, though I can't quite recall the exact details right now—it was something along the lines of "The Francklin D. Roosevelt Institute for Public Opinion." If I remember correctly, the logo featured a water faucet tied up in a knot. It’s a shame I can’t seem to track down a digital copy of that somewhere online, isn't it? 😁
Poor Michael never lived to see the vaccine arrive.
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
704 messages
joined Jan 2023
#415 ·
I suppose they completely botched the strategy—they overpaid their consultants for nothing. Back when there was a shortage, people were practically tripping over themselves to get vaccinated, pulling every string they could just to get an appointment... But now? Not a chance. It’s reverse psychology, I guess. You make something incredibly difficult to obtain, and suddenly everyone decides they want it.
wanderingfox86 wanderingfox86 Member
11 messages
joined Jan 2024
#416 ·
hiddendriver34 said:That logic works fine for adults. But when we talk about vaccinating kids, it’s really about boosting the overall community immunity percentage and looking out for those vulnerable groups who can't get shots themselves.

Look at countries that stayed open; they’ve hit vaccination rates as high as 95% among the elderly population.

Megan Green72 said:You're protecting those around you partially, obviously.


Now, I would appreciate it if someone could point out exactly which of my posts you are referring to. All three of my posts from today have been deleted—so, I’d like an explanation from whoever is moderating here. Why were my posts removed? Please provide some reasoning.
Gerald Chavez7 Gerald Chavez7 Active Member
173 messages
joined Apr 2021
#417 ·
wanderingfox86 said:Now, I would appreciate it if someone could point out exactly which of my posts you are referring to. All three of my posts from today have been deleted—so, I’d like an explanation from whoever is moderating here. Why were my posts removed? Please provide some reasoning.

Is it possible you're just confused and logged in under the wrong username? I checked, and wanderingfox86 hasn't had a single post deleted from this thread today—...not that I bothered checking anything earlier than August.
Megan Green72 Megan Green72 Active Member
90 messages
joined May 2023
#418 ·
Gerald Chavez7 said:Is it possible you're just confused and logged in under the wrong username? I checked, and wanderingfox86 hasn't had a single post deleted from this thread today—...not that I bothered checking anything earlier than August.

Something's definitely off here because the original comment is gone and the link in my post leads to nothing. Either I totally screwed up or something else is happening—not sure yet.

EDIT: Even kakadu commented on the exact same post and mentioned the broken link. So yeah, we aren't just being played.
Bradley Collins32 Bradley Collins32 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Sep 2021
#419 ·
Lisa Jackson7 said:Signed, every single word... 👍

My wife and I both got two doses, but we still have massive question marks—like, what about people with underlying health issues? Should they even bother?

We aren't vaccinating our kids—just too much risk involved...

Congrats on not vaccinating your kids, but I’m hoping an intelligent person will finally give me a straight, logical answer as to why you and your wife actually did get the shots.

Most answers I hear boil down to:

1. Not wanting to get sick.
2. Wanting to travel.
3. Keeping my job.

The first one makes sense, and I assume that’s where you'll land, so let me ask: Why do you trust Beros, Capak, Fauci, and Gates more than Judy Mikovits, Mike Yeadon, Sucharit Bhakdi, Peter McCullough, Luc Montagnier, Geert Vanden Bosche, or Vladimir Zelenko?

It’s highly suspicious that you put your faith in the same people who helped create this virus. They’re providing the "solution" via mRNA therapy, which they’re mislabeling as a vaccine. You didn't get vaccinated; you underwent gene therapy. That isn't a vaccine.
Susan Martin4 Susan Martin4 Active Member
130 messages
joined Apr 2023
#420 ·
Can I answer for her?

All the adults got the shot, but I’m drawing the line at my kids.
We didn't get vaccinated just to stay infection-free—I'm realistic enough to know we'll all end up catching COVID sooner or later. For me, it was about avoiding the heavy stuff and death. My parents are older and have health issues, so they were especially careful to get vaccinated to lower their risk of a fatal outcome. It was also about lowering the chance that I'd pass it on to them while trying to protect myself.

From what I can see, kids aren't seeing high death rates. I haven't heard anything about massive numbers of severe complications among them, so I don't think they need the vaccine right now.

So, I'm not one of those people claiming vaccination prevents you from getting infected. We're protecting ourselves against worse outcomes.

And no, I don't consider mRNA to be gene therapy. Besides, there are other types of vaccines out there besides mRNA.

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