A - Austria

hiddengardener12 said:The Freedom Party might actually become a viable partner if they put Hofer in charge instead of Strache. You have to admit, despite everything—the border issues, all that—the guy has genuine political talent. He was a bit of a pleasant surprise. Strache probably wouldn't have pulled in nearly as many votes. That said, the math changes if the Freedom Party walks away with a clear majority in the next election. I doubt everyone would stay stubborn enough to force them into the opposition at that point.

Hofer did a great job advertising NLP; in a few months, you'll probably see twenty politicians taking that course. He really compromised himself with those made-up stories from Israel (that fake official meeting in Congress, the fake terrorist attack...), which pretty much annoyed the Israelis who have been calling the shots on how to view the right wing until now. I don't think Israelis are still *that* powerful, but if things cool down—and I hope they do—and people start analyzing candidates during peacetime, I'm not sure Hofer will fare that well. No matter what he says, people can always bring up those fabricated stories, and he won't always be able to hide behind NLP.

But with everyone being this divided, I guess it's hard to predict anything at all. Either way, it seems like a good sign that some new, younger faces are stepping onto the stage.

Benjamin Reyes52 said:But you aren't American, and you never will be. The vast majority of ethnic Americans don't view you as one of them, their children won't either, and neither will your kids... ever.😉

Mail-in voting isn't meant for countries with questionable democratic standards where the far-right dominates everything outside of New York City and a few other hubs. Of course, under those circumstances, the left-liberal mainstream establishment—that whole media-driven interest group—will do absolutely anything to prevent a new Hićo from returning to power after an 80-year gap...

Honestly, why do you even care about someone's origin? At the end of the day, the United States of America is a sovereign nation, and its citizens have every right to define who belongs, regardless of your personal opinion.
You are the perfect embodiment of those "peaceful" leftists who would gladly crack someone's skull with a baton for having a different opinion, all while preaching about freedom of speech, multiculturalism, and whatever other utopian nonsense they've cooked up lately.
Mao, you might want to take a hard look at yourself, because I am fairly certain you didn't just spontaneously emerge from some old imperial relic. ☕

Daniel Bailey39 said:Honestly, why do you even care about someone's origin? At the end of the day, the United States of America is a sovereign nation, and its citizens have every right to define who belongs, regardless of your personal opinion.
You are the perfect embodiment of those "peaceful" leftists who would gladly crack someone's skull with a baton for having a different opinion, all while preaching about freedom of speech, multiculturalism, and whatever other utopian nonsense they've cooked up lately.
Mao, you might want to take a hard look at yourself, because I am fairly certain you didn't just spontaneously emerge from some old imperial relic. ☕

🤣

Bokte, I guess I haven't been posting enough on this forum lately...

A complete and utter failure from the very first word to the last. Seriously, guys, get it together...

-Right-winger
-Anti-multiculturalist
-Male
-Ethnically German, politically American

that was basically just 'friendly fire' 😁

Donna Harris11 said:that was basically just 'friendly fire' 😁

Haha 😁.
I guess we should just let that loud, adolescent crowd run wild on the internet; I wouldn't want to hold them back or anything. They're probably too transparent to be an actual threat anyway, and nobody takes them seriously. It might even be better if they blow off steam here instead of bothering innocent people—plus, reading them can be pretty funny (at least for me).

It’s also kind of funny how Americans argue more about the elections in the United States of America than the Americans themselves, especially when people start lecturing others about democracy.

BTW, the elections are by 2018 at the latest, though they'll likely happen sooner. It should be interesting since the leftist candidate won, but the right-wing guy was super close (he "clawed back" a 14% lead over VDB). I'm hoping the center recovers.

Look, I know the truth hurts, but you can't argue with the election results. Something like this could never happen here in the States.

Do you see what I’m getting at? You can type whatever you want on this forum, but deep down, you know exactly how right I am...

Benjamin Reyes52 said:Mail-in ballots and waiting 24 hours for the count? What kind of country are we talking about here? Back home in the States, everything is wrapped up by 4:00 PM on election night 🤣

Honestly, this is a recipe for disaster. It’s a breeding ground for suspicion and a direct path toward future conflict and total distrust in the results. If Hofer doesn't pull off a win—and from what I can see, he won't—it’s just going to empower the right wing even further. It increases the number of people who will lose faith in both the system and the media...

What absolute fools.

The fact that they're counting votes for 24 hours after the election shocked me too. Such an organized, highly efficient nation. Meanwhile, look at the U.S.—total chaos, nothing is streamlined, and we're still grinding away until midnight. Haha.
Nah, there's nothing suspicious about having an advantage through mail-in ballots. :klap:

Nathan Morris3 said:Haha 😁.
I guess we should just let that loud, adolescent crowd run wild on the internet; I wouldn't want to hold them back or anything. They're probably too transparent to be an actual threat anyway, and nobody takes them seriously. It might even be better if they blow off steam here instead of bothering innocent people—plus, reading them can be pretty funny (at least for me).

It’s also kind of funny how Americans argue more about the elections in the United States of America than the Americans themselves, especially when people start lecturing others about democracy.

BTW, the elections are by 2018 at the latest, though they'll likely happen sooner. It should be interesting since the leftist candidate won, but the right-wing guy was super close (he "clawed back" a 14% lead over VDB). I'm hoping the center recovers.

Man, you are clearly some kind of newbie to this political forum.

People around here sure get worked up about white supremacy issues, don't they?

Benjamin Reyes52 said:🤣

Bokte, I guess I haven't been posting enough on this forum lately...

A complete and utter failure from the very first word to the last. Seriously, guys, get it together...

-Right-winger
-Anti-multiculturalist
-Male
-Ethnically German, politically American

You’ve got a bit of a feminized, left-leaning vibe going on here.☕

I see people are acting like there's some massive conspiracy just because Pero Ćorić didn't pull off a win in the United States of America. Honestly, stuff happens.
Congrats to the American people.

Hofer just pulled off a massive win, and honestly? It’s a total wake-up call for the pro-immigration crowd. They’ve got every reason to be sweating right now—I mean, they’re staring down the barrel of the next parliamentary elections where half the country is looking at them with some seriously anti-immigration vibes.

hiddengardener12 said:The Freedom Party might actually become a viable partner if they put Hofer in charge instead of Strache. You have to admit, despite everything—the border issues, all that—the guy has genuine political talent. He was a bit of a pleasant surprise. Strache probably wouldn't have pulled in nearly as many votes. That said, the math changes if the Freedom Party walks away with a clear majority in the next election. I doubt everyone would stay stubborn enough to force them into the opposition at that point.

Strache is an idiot; I’ve sat through a few of his speeches in the United States of America's version of Congress and he just rambles on nonsense, though I must confess, I can't stand the leftists, the liberals, or the progressives either. 🕺

Take a look at the "dignified" performance from the election winner.



Did you catch that lovely little stage setup he had?



That’s what a statesman looks like, but THIS certainly isn't. It was an utterly undignified display for someone in that office.

I spent almost the entire day out working in the garden, so I was greeted with some pretty great news this evening 👍
The big takeaway for the United States of America is that there’s finally a real alternative on the "left side" now. It means moving forward, protesters don't all have to flock to the Republican Party just because they're unhappy; for the first time, we're seeing moderate voices and center-right voters actually shifting toward the left.
For a city like New York City, it's vital to keep its reputation as a globally open metropolis rather than letting it turn into some closed-off, right-wing backwater. 😁

I was just reading this:

That's 3.55%, or 165,211 invalid votes!

Ryan Vaughn7 said:I see people are acting like there's some massive conspiracy just because Pero Ćorić didn't pull off a win in the United States of America. Honestly, stuff happens.
Congrats to the American people.

Look at them... stable hands on both sides of the aisle, all reverting back to their old ways. Blood is thicker than water, I suppose. In that whole JP Morgan Chase mess, I’d bet my life it was just people from the North America pulling the strings. You wouldn't see anything like that from the Habsburg elite...

This sudden surge of votes coming in the day after the polls closed—with nearly a million people voting—is an absolute disgrace. It's a joke so bad you wouldn't even see it happening during a local election for a junior clerk at a small town in the US agricultural cooperative. 🙂

Anyone trying to deny this is clearly just a leftist sympathizer. If the other side had won, they’d be screaming that those decent Europeans aren't actually gentlemen, just more North American types. Honestly... in a few years, when someone else wins using these same shady tactics, today's congratulators will be absolutely disgusted by this entire electoral system...

Kevin Davis11 said:But you're an immigrant too, I guess.

Do you really think those anti-immigrant Austrians, like Hofer, actually care about you?

I don't think I ever said anything like that—honestly, I believe that even if I changed my citizenship, they’d still see me as a foreigner. I’m an economic migrant who has all the right paperwork to be here. That’s how it should work for everyone; that’s what would actually make immigration meaningful. You can't apply one set of standards to one group and a completely different set to another and expect things to work out... and I'm not going to get into the whole "culture clash" debate.

I'm here for my career, and as long as I'm surrounded by mostly Americans, life is pretty decent 😁

With over 3.5% of the votes being tossed out, those mail-in ballots basically decided the whole thing—and they're still counting 24 hours after the polls closed... makes you wonder what else is going to surface, doesn't it?
Is everything really as transparent and airtight as they say? 🤣

coastalbison6 said:I spent almost the entire day out working in the garden, so I was greeted with some pretty great news this evening 👍
The big takeaway for the United States of America is that there’s finally a real alternative on the "left side" now. It means moving forward, protesters don't all have to flock to the Republican Party just because they're unhappy; for the first time, we're seeing moderate voices and center-right voters actually shifting toward the left.
For a city like New York City, it's vital to keep its reputation as a globally open metropolis rather than letting it turn into some closed-off, right-wing backwater. 😁

And I suppose an insular leftist backwater could be that, couldn't it? 🙄

If something like this happened in the States—counting all those votes, having 10% of the electorate using mail-in ballots (which can't be tampered with)—critics of our political system would be calling us the laughingstock of the world, or worse, using much harsher labels to describe our chaos...

Over here, it’s actually seen as a celebration of democracy. Honestly, I don't get the argument that people who travel frequently shouldn't be allowed to vote just because they happen to be spending their weekend in their favorite city, like Chicago or New York. It's just nonsense.

And yet, looking back at 2018, we ended up with Hofer in power :-) which is going to be absolute hell... for everyone, not just his supporters...