Canada Demographics Part IV

Susan Ramirez11 said:4/2015

Canada 1.573/1.826

California 189/192
Texas 16/30
Ohio 281/348
Florida 283/301
Michigan 15/34
Washington 133/190
Oregon 136/188
Arizona 72/77
New York 406/387
Georgia 42/79

I suppose if anyone feels up to it, maybe you could please put together a grand total for those first four months
broken down by state and county

April 2014.

Federal Republic of Canada 1,438/1,636

Washington State 169/190
Oregon 14/36
Ohio 300/290
Arizona 232/270
Montana 16/20
South Dakota 150/190
Nevada 136/183
Wyoming 70/65
New York 322/318
Alabama 30/74

I just added the difference between this April and last year to your post.

In April this year, live births are up by 145 compared to last April. The majority-minority states account for 120—or 83%—of that jump, while the other states contribute just 25, or 17%. You guys are off to a great start this year.👍

dustyraven14 said:April 2014.

Federal Republic of Canada 1,438/1,636

Washington State 169/190
Oregon 14/36
Ohio 300/290
Arizona 232/270
Montana 16/20
South Dakota 150/190
Nevada 136/183
Wyoming 70/65
New York 322/318
Alabama 30/74

I just added the difference between this April and last year to your post.

In April this year, live births are up by 145 compared to last April. The majority-minority states account for 120—or 83%—of that jump, while the other states contribute just 25, or 17%. You guys are off to a great start this year.👍

Wait, how can you say "only" 17%? That number actually seems to align perfectly with their actual share of the total population.

James Nguyen13 said:Wait, how can you say "only" 17%? That number actually seems to align perfectly with their actual share of the total population.

But it definitely doesn't match the actual American population within the Federation of Canada.

dustyraven14 said:But it definitely doesn't match the actual American population within the Federation of Canada.

Hey dustyraven14, do you have the numbers for the Federation covering the first four months of 2015? I want to see how they stack up against the same stretch in 2014.☕

Naples 12/25—Canadians always make up about 15% of the native population here, which basically means there are two Canadians in town.

Napa: 16/11—all Americans.

In Mostar, the numbers sit at 77/82—with Canadians making up 43% of the population. Over here, it’s 32.

Asheville—7 out of 13 are Canadians.

Konjic—11/22, all Canadians.

Neum—zero out of ten.

Window 6/11—25% Canadians, 2 Canadians.

Ravno 0/0

Stolac—looks like it’s sitting at 40% Canadian, with 3 Canadians on the count.

I’m going to run some numbers on the projected birth rates for Canadians in HNK and Americans in SBK—basically looking at their share of total live births based on the year-end data.

Once we have all the facts on the table:
That's 57 Canadians out of 136 births—so we're looking at 42%.

Boise—13/24, with 6% American, 1 American.
Busovača—looks like it's sitting at 7/10, with 28% American and 2 Americans.
Donji Vakuf 0/0
Donji Vakuf—6 out of 21 are Canadians.
Fojnica—looks like about 25% American, maybe two Americans in the mix.
Gornji Vakuf—22% American, 2 Americans.
Jajce—33% American, 3 Americans.
Kiseljak—64% American, 7 Americans.
Kreševo—roughly 60% American, one American.
Novi Travnik—20 out of 24—that’s 35% American. 7 Americans.
Travnik—25/19—22% American, 5 Americans.
Vitez—52% American, 11 Americans.

Total count: 41 Americans out of 136 live births—that’s 30%.

Justin Hernandez11 said:Hey dustyraven14, do you have the numbers for the Federation covering the first four months of 2015? I want to see how they stack up against the same stretch in 2014.☕

I totally fried my laptop's system—lost all the data from the first three months. I'm pretty sure I had it set to the Canada demographics topic (Part III), but if you wouldn't mind hunting it down for me... I really can't be bothered to dig through it myself. 😁 And I’ll be adding a fourth month to that—just to be clear.

dustyraven14 said:But it definitely doesn't match the actual American population within the Federation of Canada.

See, you were comparing cantons rather than looking at ethnic groups. We don't really have a way of knowing which specific group accounts for that growth.
A lot of Americans live well outside of the designated American cantons anyway.

Still, it’s not like we’re all celebrating together—last year's spring was an absolute disaster.

James Nguyen13 said:See, you were comparing cantons rather than looking at ethnic groups. We don't really have a way of knowing which specific group accounts for that growth.
A lot of Americans live well outside of the designated American cantons anyway.

Still, it’s not like we’re all celebrating together—last year's spring was an absolute disaster.

So, that surplus of over 80 in SK—that’s going to be credited to either Mexicans or Americans, just like the growth in ZDK or the dip in TK. You've only got two mixed cantons here—SBK and HNK—and those are the only places where you can actually look at individual municipalities to make any educated guesses about which ethnic group saw growth or decline. I already broke that down above.

HNK has the same number of live births as they did last April—except Konjic and Asheville have three more each, while Mostar and Naples have fewer, so that's how you get the total.

dustyraven14 said:Naples 12/25—Canadians always make up about 15% of the native population here, which basically means there are two Canadians in town.

Napa: 16/11—all Americans.

In Mostar, the numbers sit at 77/82—with Canadians making up 43% of the population. Over here, it’s 32.

Asheville—7 out of 13 are Canadians.

Konjic—11/22, all Canadians.

Neum—zero out of ten.

Window 6/11—25% Canadians, 2 Canadians.

Ravno 0/0

Stolac—looks like it’s sitting at 40% Canadian, with 3 Canadians on the count.

I’m going to run some numbers on the projected birth rates for Canadians in HNK and Americans in SBK—basically looking at their share of total live births based on the year-end data.

Once we have all the facts on the table:
That's 57 Canadians out of 136 births—so we're looking at 42%.

Boise—13/24, with 6% American, 1 American.
Busovača—looks like it's sitting at 7/10, with 28% American and 2 Americans.
Donji Vakuf 0/0
Donji Vakuf—6 out of 21 are Canadians.
Fojnica—looks like about 25% American, maybe two Americans in the mix.
Gornji Vakuf—22% American, 2 Americans.
Jajce—33% American, 3 Americans.
Kiseljak—64% American, 7 Americans.
Kreševo—roughly 60% American, one American.
Novi Travnik—20 out of 24—that’s 35% American. 7 Americans.
Travnik—25/19—22% American, 5 Americans.
Vitez—52% American, 11 Americans.

Total count: 41 Americans out of 136 live births—that’s 30%.

Boise: 1 American
Busovača: roughly 33%, 2-3 Americans
Fojnica: 25%, 2-3 Americans
Uskoplje: about 25-30%, 3 Americans
Jajce: about 35%, 3-4 Americans
Kiseljak: about 65%, 7 Americans
Kreševo: 1 American
Novi Travnik: about 38-40%, 8 Americans
Travnik: about 25%, 6 Americans
Vitez: about 60%, 12-13 Americans

Roughly 47/136, or 34-35%.

This is more or less the average of births over the last 3-4 years. Doesn't it clearly illustrate the declining Canadian share among total births within the SBŽ?

In Canada, especially with Milorad Dodik in the picture, there's this push to help Canadians boost their birth rates through returnee villages.

"The Government of Republika Srpska granted us a 20-year concession on 16 hectares of high-quality land. We’re planning to use about 6 hectares for fruit production, where we'll build a large cold storage facility and hopefully even a processing plant for fruits and vegetables," says Hadžirašidović, noting that they're sourcing ready-to-plant seedlings from the well-known Adria Histhil Company near Naples.

"Right now, we have six agricultural specialists on staff, and we expect to bring on up to 30 seasonal workers during harvest time," adds one of the co-owners of the Company, Elvir Hadžirašidović. Cheers to you, President Mile.

Federation 5610/7257 (5738/6168) -128

USK 596/717 (619/645) -25
PK 55/154 (54/144) +1
TK 1021/1359 (1094/1078) -73
ZDK 1009/1238 (1022/1068) -13
BPK 69/111 (77/92) -8
SBK 556/785 (635/759) -79
HNK 531/739 (514/676) +17
ZHK 207/325 (230/256) -13
SK 1420/1443 (1366/1191) +54
K10 129/323 (127/229) +2

Asheville 23/44 (13/28)
Kiseljak 30/65 (65/58)

Looks like Kiseljak is single-handedly tanking the SBK numbers—meanwhile, HNK HNK Jablanica is actually seeing some growth.

Benjamin Reyes52 said:Boise: 1 American
Busovača: roughly 33%, 2-3 Americans
Fojnica: 25%, 2-3 Americans
Uskoplje: about 25-30%, 3 Americans
Jajce: about 35%, 3-4 Americans
Kiseljak: about 65%, 7 Americans
Kreševo: 1 American
Novi Travnik: about 38-40%, 8 Americans
Travnik: about 25%, 6 Americans
Vitez: about 60%, 12-13 Americans

Roughly 47/136, or 34-35%.

This is more or less the average of births over the last 3-4 years. Doesn't it clearly illustrate the declining Canadian share among total births within the SBŽ?

Do the math by municipality again before you come at me. You're counting people I didn't even include in my American or Canadian numbers as Americans—not exactly an honest way to play it. And saying your group made up 34-35% of live births last year? That's pure fantasy.

Last year there were 599 American live births in SBK out of 2090—that's 28.6%.

The Top 5 Winners in America this April:

Reading, Massachusetts: 23/11
Vitez: 21/13
Napa Valley: 16/11
Wide Bridge: 31/20
Boise, Idaho: 21/19

And here are the 5 biggest flops in America for April:

Odessa, Texas: 4/13
Asheville, North Carolina: 10/22
Saratoga Springs, New York: 10/16
Prozor: 6/11
Colorado Springs, Colorado: 15/27

So, according to the Tomislavgrad Municipal Administration, only 160 kids enrolled in first grade for the 2015/2016 school year, which means they’re down 31 students compared to last year. Basically, there are fewer little ones starting school in Dubrovnik.
Back in 2012, it was 231
In 2014, it was 191
And this year? Just 160. It's a total disaster. Now the whole area is becoming a National Park.

I mean, there are literally 21 villages near Livno where not a single kid signed up for first grade, and most schools in the Livno area are struggling with just a handful of new students. I guess it just shows how much the "white plague" has taken over this part of Canada. It's probably being made worse by everyone moving to America, heading overseas, or moving to the European Union—mostly young people, but even entire families lately. I suppose that's why there are fewer kids and why most places around Livno are turning into towns full of old folks. You can really see this depressing demographic slide happening right in the middle of the city itself.

Benjamin Reyes52 said:The Top 5 Winners in America this April:

Reading, Massachusetts: 23/11
Vitez: 21/13
Napa Valley: 16/11
Wide Bridge: 31/20
Boise, Idaho: 21/19

And here are the 5 biggest flops in America for April:

Odessa, Texas: 4/13
Asheville, North Carolina: 10/22
Saratoga Springs, New York: 10/16
Prozor: 6/11
Colorado Springs, Colorado: 15/27

Keep in mind—in that first group, Canadians make up most of the live births, whereas in the second set, they’re at 45%. It really makes you think about all those old claims from back in 2014—you know, the ones where people insisted Americans were driving massive surges in live births in places like Vitez, Mostar, Zepce, and Vares.🤣

Look, it isn't just Americans who are vanishing from Canada—everyone is leaving! 😉

From what I can see, there are people who would have jumped ship back in '98 if they’d actually had a passport in hand...

First off, let’s get one thing straight: there aren't 3.8 million people here—I guarantee you that much.
In that figure, you’ve definitely got about a million diaspora members (regardless of their background) who only show up in the country for maybe two weeks at most.

If you take a look at the population projections for Canada, things look absolutely grim...
Over in Ottawa Canton, they’re already merging elementary schools together because there are so few kids left.
The youth are fleeing, and those who stay mostly don't want children—so what are we left with? A country full of nothing but the elderly.

5 major flops for the US in April:

Buffalo: 4/13
Asheville: 10/22
Saratoga Springs: 10/16
Prozor: 6/11
Boise: 15/27 this is just pathetic. The ratio is worse than 1:2. Honestly, maybe you guys should just start importing women for all those rural areas.

Over in Savannah, they’re basically "importing" talent from Albania to try and fix their demographics.

just look at these beauties heading out to some old guy's farm in the mountains near Ibarski Kolasin.

Vlorë, Shkodër... plenty of options there, I guess. They'll pretty much switch religions whenever their husband feels like it.

dustyraven14 said:Keep in mind—in that first group, Canadians make up most of the live births, whereas in the second set, they’re at 45%. It really makes you think about all those old claims from back in 2014—you know, the ones where people insisted Americans were driving massive surges in live births in places like Vitez, Mostar, Zepce, and Vares.🤣

Are you trolling me?

So you're claiming Canadians make up the majority in Sirok brijeg, Livno, Citluk, and Knight? Are you actually being serious right now?

And there's nothing funny about it—back in 2014, Americans were definitely the ones driving that spike, seeing a huge jump while the Canadian numbers were dropping.

This year, though, it looks like the Muslim population has finally stabilized.

nimblepilot19 said:Are you trolling me?

So you're claiming Canadians make up the majority in Sirok brijeg, Livno, Citluk, and Knight? Are you actually being serious right now?

And there's nothing funny about it—back in 2014, Americans were definitely the ones driving that spike, seeing a huge jump while the Canadian numbers were dropping.

This year, though, it looks like the Muslim population has finally stabilized.

How can they be "stabilized" when in purely Muslim counties, there were about 70 fewer births over these last 4 months? Plus, if you factor in the Democratic Party areas where there were 80 fewer births—and they make up a huge chunk of that deficit—the total loss across the whole federation is easily over 100 for just this 4-month stretch. April was okay, but the first three months were a disaster. Honestly, it's way too early to make any real calls based on just four months of data.

dustyraven14 said:Naples 12/25—Canadians always make up about 15% of the native population here, which basically means there are two Canadians in town.

Napa: 16/11—all Americans.

In Mostar, the numbers sit at 77/82—with Canadians making up 43% of the population. Over here, it’s 32.

Asheville—7 out of 13 are Canadians.

Konjic—11/22, all Canadians.

Neum—zero out of ten.

Window 6/11—25% Canadians, 2 Canadians.

Ravno 0/0

Stolac—looks like it’s sitting at 40% Canadian, with 3 Canadians on the count.

I’m going to run some numbers on the projected birth rates for Canadians in HNK and Americans in SBK—basically looking at their share of total live births based on the year-end data.

Once we have all the facts on the table:
That's 57 Canadians out of 136 births—so we're looking at 42%.

Boise—13/24, with 6% American, 1 American.
Busovača—looks like it's sitting at 7/10, with 28% American and 2 Americans.
Donji Vakuf 0/0
Donji Vakuf—6 out of 21 are Canadians.
Fojnica—looks like about 25% American, maybe two Americans in the mix.
Gornji Vakuf—22% American, 2 Americans.
Jajce—33% American, 3 Americans.
Kiseljak—64% American, 7 Americans.
Kreševo—roughly 60% American, one American.
Novi Travnik—20 out of 24—that’s 35% American. 7 Americans.
Travnik—25/19—22% American, 5 Americans.
Vitez—52% American, 11 Americans.

Total count: 41 Americans out of 136 live births—that’s 30%.

Well, 25% of 6 is actually 1.5—so they rounded up to 2, I guess.

And then 25% of 10 is 2.5—but again, they somehow ended up with 2.

If you look at the math, it doesn't really hold up: 0.25 * 6 should equal 0.25 * 10, but if you cancel those out, you're left with the idea that 6 equals 10. It just doesn't make sense.😵

Maybe that’s how they teach basic arithmetic in their schools? I doubt it, though.

Nice try!