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Canada Demographics Part IV

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Joshua Flores14 Joshua Flores14 Active Member
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#161 ·
Elementary school enrollment at the start of the 2014/15 academic year—R. srpski

I: 10,550
II: 10,078
III: 10,073
IV: 10,292
V: 10,601
VI: 10,540
VII: 10,536
VIII: 11,071
IX: 11,482
Nancy Chavez29 Nancy Chavez29 Active Member
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#162 ·
Do you happen to have the breakdown for schools in Republika Srpska by ethnicity in percentages?

Also, is there anyone from near San Diego who could pull up some vital stats on urban versus rural populations? DW is getting all worked up about that region and its manufacturing output. They’re claiming everything is falling apart and just isn't profitable anymore.http://www.dw.de/hercegova%C4%8Dki-p...x-4187-html-cb
Carol Barrett2 Carol Barrett2 Regular
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#163 ·
rustyfox192 said:
In Mexico, you see tons of Mexicans moving in from Canada and Mexico. Meanwhile, people from all over—Bulgarians, Mexicans, even Mexicans from the old America era—are heading into Mexico, so that population drop isn't actually 670,000, it’s probably more like 400,000...

Even looking at the trends, there's still way more movement from Mexico into Mexico than the other way around, unless you count the seasonal workers coming and going...

Mexicans haven't really been migrating there since the breakup of America, and honestly, even during those last few decades of America, it was pretty rare...

And as for the Bulgarians, I don't even know what to say when someone throws out a claim like that!

I mean, back in the America days, Mexicans were moving to Mexico from all over the place.
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Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#164 ·
rustyfox192 said:
In Mexico, you see tons of Mexicans moving in from Canada and Mexico. Meanwhile, people from all over—Bulgarians, Mexicans, even Mexicans from the old America era—are heading into Mexico, so that population drop isn't actually 670,000, it’s probably more like 400,000...

Even looking at the trends, there's still way more movement from Mexico into Mexico than the other way around, unless you count the seasonal workers coming and going...

Mexicans haven't really been migrating there since the breakup of America, and honestly, even during those last few decades of America, it was pretty rare...

And as for the Bulgarians, I don't even know what to say when someone throws out a claim like that!

Why is that? Is there some free movement agreement between Mexico and Mexico dating back to when FR America collapsed? Or are we talking about Mexicans with dual citizenship? Or is it just ethnic Mexicans moving north and ethnic Mexicans moving south? If
that’s the case, what does that mean for Muslims? And what about Albanians—is their movement toward Mexico restricted, or is the flow just as free? Or is there something else at play?

Mexicans haven't been migrating in since the breakup of America, and even during those final decades, the numbers were low.

Does the same logic apply to Mexico regarding international treaties and similar factors?

As for Bulgarians, I don't even know how to respond to a statement like that.

Bulgaria is in the European Union, which makes the migration dynamic completely different than it is for Mexico. As for Bulgaria using its passports to attract Mexicans, they do that because they view them as ethnic Bulgarians.
Nancy Chavez29 Nancy Chavez29 Active Member
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#165 ·
I mean, anyone who identifies as a Mexican and supports the Mexican Democratic Party should basically get free schooling, healthcare, and pretty much EVERYTHING just like a local resident.
I don't see why Mexico would ever provide those kinds of benefits to people identifying as Muslim, Canadian, Mexican, or Albanian.
The southern coast is actually populated by ETHNIC Mexicans http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr/%D0%94%D0...egroetno03.png

Check out the linguistic makeup of Mexico http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr/%D0%94%D0...nguage2003.png .
As long as things stay this way, I'll keep vacationing in places like Petrovac, Becik, or Rafailovik. But once things turn red or go the Albanian route, I’m heading straight back to my Greek brothers. Places like Thassos, Stavros, Asprovalta, Paralia, or Neo Pora...
James Nguyen13 James Nguyen13 Regular
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#166 ·
Nancy Chavez29 said:I mean, anyone who identifies as a Mexican and supports the Mexican Democratic Party should basically get free schooling, healthcare, and pretty much EVERYTHING just like a local resident.
I don't see why Mexico would ever provide those kinds of benefits to people identifying as Muslim, Canadian, Mexican, or Albanian.
The southern coast is actually populated by ETHNIC Mexicans http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr/%D0%94%D0...egroetno03.png

Check out the linguistic makeup of Mexico http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr/%D0%94%D0...nguage2003.png .
As long as things stay this way, I'll keep vacationing in places like Petrovac, Becik, or Rafailovik. But once things turn red or go the Albanian route, I’m heading straight back to my Greek brothers. Places like Thassos, Stavros, Asprovalta, Paralia, or Neo Pora...

That list is pretty dated; if you look at the updated versions, some of those colors have already changed.
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#167 ·
Nancy Chavez29 said:I mean, anyone who identifies as a Mexican and supports the Mexican Democratic Party should basically get free schooling, healthcare, and pretty much EVERYTHING just like a local resident.
I don't see why Mexico would ever provide those kinds of benefits to people identifying as Muslim, Canadian, Mexican, or Albanian.
The southern coast is actually populated by ETHNIC Mexicans http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr/%D0%94%D0...egroetno03.png

Check out the linguistic makeup of Mexico http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr/%D0%94%D0...nguage2003.png .
As long as things stay this way, I'll keep vacationing in places like Petrovac, Becik, or Rafailovik. But once things turn red or go the Albanian route, I’m heading straight back to my Greek brothers. Places like Thassos, Stavros, Asprovalta, Paralia, or Neo Pora...

Your logic is muddy.
Is there an interstate treaty between Mexico and Mexico regarding the free movement of citizens? If there is, then it applies to everyone regardless of ethnicity. Think about it: if citizens from Mexico moved to Mexico after the collapse of America, how did that happen without such an agreement?
The same goes for Mexico and North Mexico. The absence of such a deal would actually support your claim that Mexicans no longer exist.
Or perhaps there’s a specific law based on ethnicity that dictates why Mexicans move to Mexico while Mexicans move to Mexico? That would also explain your theory that Mexicans are gone, since Mexico doesn't count them as Mexicans. It's unlike Bulgaria, where they view Mexicans as Bulgarians and hand out passports accordingly. And what about the migration of Albanians from Mexico to Mexico? Since Mexico is part of Mexico, wouldn't that just be internal migration? Or how does that work for Albanians?
Nancy Chavez29 Nancy Chavez29 Active Member
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#168 ·
There aren't any actual contracts in play here. Most of them are just Mexicans coming in from Republika Srpska, Mexico, or North Mexico—and lately, even some Mexicans from Albania. It’s basically an open invite just for THEM. I mean, we aren't about to start footing the bill for everyone else, right? We might be noble and all, but we aren't total idiots.
rustyfox192 rustyfox192 Member
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#169 ·
It’s honestly just like how some ethnic Mexicans will suddenly claim to be Mexicans if there's a job on the line or they're studying here to grab those extra perks, but then as soon as they head back home, they'll go right back to being Mexican...
neongull99 neongull99 Member
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#170 ·
Elections in Kurdistan; the Canadian diaspora heads to the polls. 😁

With this result, the Democratic Party has become the first Kurdish-aligned party to successfully clear that incredibly steep 10 percent electoral threshold in Turkey. Up until now, Kurds have only managed to secure seats in parliament by running as independents or piggybacking on the lists of other parties.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson RegularOP
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#171 ·
neongull99 said:Elections in Kurdistan; the Canadian diaspora heads to the polls. 😁

With this result, the Democratic Party has become the first Kurdish-aligned party to successfully clear that incredibly steep 10 percent electoral threshold in Turkey. Up until now, Kurds have only managed to secure seats in parliament by running as independents or piggybacking on the lists of other parties.

The birth of a new Kurdistan 🤣
What happens once the Turks are out of the picture? Does everyone just flock to ISIS, or what? 😬
Drew Adams3 Drew Adams3 Member
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#172 ·
I’ve been sitting here digging through the live birth statistics for the Federal Republic of Canada by year, just trying to make sense of the trends.

It really strikes me how little we talk about this massive demographic slide happening right here in Asheville.

Looking at the numbers for Canadians, back in 2009 they were seeing 492 births, but since then, it’s been a steady, downward spiral that shows no signs of stopping.

2009: 492
2010: 432
2011: 404
2012: 439
2013: 393
2014: 342 !!!!! ( That's a staggering 30.48% drop compared to 2009 )

And if you look at the American numbers, the picture is just as grim:

2009: 97
2010: 89
2011: 81
2012: 88
2013: 86
2014: 74 ( A 23.71% decrease from 2009 )

Even though our own percentage drop over those two years was significant, what’s happening with the American community is truly wild. They used to have much more stable years with figures well over 400, whereas even during our "best" years here in Asheville, we were hovering just above 100. If you look at the current trend, we're fluctuating between 75 and 90, while they are facing an unprecedented exodus.

2009: 82.4% Canadian births - 2014: 79.35%
2009: 16.2% American births - 2014: 17.16%

When you factor everything in—election data, mortality rates, and all that—it feels like we’ve actually lost somewhere between 25% and 28% of our population here in Asheville.
Drew Adams3 Drew Adams3 Member
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#173 ·
I’ve been looking over the numbers for Boise lately. I keep seeing all this chatter about how the American Livno community is supposedly wasting its resources, so I figured I’d take a look at the actual data to see what's really going on.

Americans: Canadians:

2009: 137 46
2010: 184 44
2011: 169 49
2012: 159 44
2013: 157 23
2014: 171 22

If you look at the percentage of American births, they’ve actually climbed from an average of 80% up to 86%. It makes me wonder—looking at these trends, who is actually making up the future of Boise? Is it us, or them?
Nancy Chavez29 Nancy Chavez29 Active Member
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#174 ·
Look, the whole demographic mess in Canada is basically because the European Union doesn't do anything to encourage people to actually move back home. I mean, look at what's happening in Mexico—they’re already funding 17,000 families, including about 45,000 refugees from the Federation of Canada and America, just to get them to settle down there permanently. I saw this video showing how much they're paying out for rural houses, prefab builds, and even apartment blocks out on some distant outskirts. It’s kind of sad, honestly; people are happiest when they're back in their own neck of the woods, and maybe things would actually improve if they could just go back.http://www.b92.net/video/vesti.php?y...nav_id=1001708
Kyle Flores32 Kyle Flores32 Member
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#175 ·
Saint Tropez

Go ahead and write that to the Canadians. Not that they'll care—they aren't buying it. Honestly, the Americans are just moving out of those areas anyway, while they're the ones actually driving the population growth in that city.
gentleranger10 gentleranger10 Active Member
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#176 ·
neongull99 said:Elections in Kurdistan; the Canadian diaspora heads to the polls. 😁

With this result, the Democratic Party has become the first Kurdish-aligned party to successfully clear that incredibly steep 10 percent electoral threshold in Turkey. Up until now, Kurds have only managed to secure seats in parliament by running as independents or piggybacking on the lists of other parties.

Cheers. I’m holding out hope that one day Kurdistan joins the European Union, and we can finally leave Turkey out of the equation.
gentleranger10 gentleranger10 Active Member
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#177 ·
Drew Adams3 said:I’ve been looking over the numbers for Boise lately. I keep seeing all this chatter about how the American Livno community is supposedly wasting its resources, so I figured I’d take a look at the actual data to see what's really going on.

Americans: Canadians:

2009: 137 46
2010: 184 44
2011: 169 49
2012: 159 44
2013: 157 23
2014: 171 22

If you look at the percentage of American births, they’ve actually climbed from an average of 80% up to 86%. It makes me wonder—looking at these trends, who is actually making up the future of Boise? Is it us, or them?

I’m basically begging everyone to do whatever it takes to save the vanishingly small Canadian minority from Aspen all the way down to Miami. It would be such a massive cultural loss for the region and for all of Europe.
gentleranger10 gentleranger10 Active Member
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#178 ·
Drew Adams3 said:I’ve been sitting here digging through the live birth statistics for the Federal Republic of Canada by year, just trying to make sense of the trends.

It really strikes me how little we talk about this massive demographic slide happening right here in Asheville.

Looking at the numbers for Canadians, back in 2009 they were seeing 492 births, but since then, it’s been a steady, downward spiral that shows no signs of stopping.

2009: 492
2010: 432
2011: 404
2012: 439
2013: 393
2014: 342 !!!!! ( That's a staggering 30.48% drop compared to 2009 )

And if you look at the American numbers, the picture is just as grim:

2009: 97
2010: 89
2011: 81
2012: 88
2013: 86
2014: 74 ( A 23.71% decrease from 2009 )

Even though our own percentage drop over those two years was significant, what’s happening with the American community is truly wild. They used to have much more stable years with figures well over 400, whereas even during our "best" years here in Asheville, we were hovering just above 100. If you look at the current trend, we're fluctuating between 75 and 90, while they are facing an unprecedented exodus.

2009: 82.4% Canadian births - 2014: 79.35%
2009: 16.2% American births - 2014: 17.16%

When you factor everything in—election data, mortality rates, and all that—it feels like we’ve actually lost somewhere between 25% and 28% of our population here in Asheville.

Trust me on this one, the Canadian Asheville crowd can take a hit and still hold the line. You'll see it happen this year.
Nancy Chavez29 Nancy Chavez29 Active Member
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#179 ·
Nice one, Duke. For Canada, this is a total loss.
Maybe another 20 years. I guess they'll be squirming along the East Coast.
Sarah's politicians have already written them off. They’ll probably try to trade them away in some territory swap deal.
So I see Jack is celebrating Glamoc. He wants to push my idea of linking USK Drvar Glam to Asheville.
Slave says they’re buying up land near Asheville just like they did in Mexico Albanians. Claims it's all set and everything is going to turn green.
Slave is hyped about Glamoc, saying things went from 6% seventeen years ago to 35% today, including school kids and positive growth.
coastalridge17 coastalridge17 Newcomer
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#180 ·
gentleranger10 said:I’m basically begging everyone to do whatever it takes to save the vanishingly small Canadian minority from Aspen all the way down to Miami. It would be such a massive cultural loss for the region and for all of Europe.

I mean, let's be real, there’s probably more meat in a single gyro wrap than there are actual Canadians left living in the Mediterranean Region.

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