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Michael Perez5 said:I just wanted to take a moment to look back at the last few months on this thread (it feels necessary to do this every once in a while) regarding some practical experiences and the legal side of things.
You have to pay the PBS fee if you own a TV or radio.
You have to pay the PBS fee if you have a radio in your car.
You have to pay the PBS fee if you own a device with a TV/radio tuner (any device capable of receiving broadcast signals).
Once we’ve cleared that up—assuming you don't actually own any of those devices—if collectors show up, try to enter your home, or send you invoices and warnings from PBS...
If you did own a device but officially canceled your subscription, whenever you get a warning or an invoice, send it back via certified mail with a return receipt. Include the proof of your cancellation (the paperwork) that you originally sent to PBS. (The process for how to cancel has already been explained several times on this thread).
How to report that you don't have a TV has also been covered here.
The sanctity of your home is guaranteed by the US Constitution.
You don't have to let anyone into your apartment or house, under any circumstances or for any reason whatsoever. You don't need to talk to them, argue with them, explain yourself, or prove anything to anyone...
Don't be scared; there aren't these "scanning" devices or signal-catching gadgets or any other nonsense they use to "prove" you have a device.
It's all nonsense.
Please, don't let anyone into your home out of fear of a fine or anything like that. If they have something to leave for you, tell them to put it in your mailbox.
And most importantly: when you've canceled your service (and sent that proof via certified mail to PBS), the bills stop coming and everything is fine. Then, suddenly, a collector shows up at your door and says something like:
"Good day, I'm here to collect the TV fee / bring you your bill / etc..."
You say: "But I canceled my service."
They say: "Alright, then can I come inside your house or apartment to check if you have a TV (any device with a TV/radio tuner)?"
You say: "No, you cannot!" 🙂
They say: "Well, then we have to keep sending you bills because you clearly have a television."
And you say: "But we don't..."
They say: "Just let me check. Here is my ID, I am a PBS collector, and when you signed that cancellation form, you agreed to inspections by PBS collectors so they could determine if you have a TV."
You say: "Of course, I agreed to that, so you are more than welcome to check!" 🙂
They say: "Okay, so can you let me in to check?"
You say: "No, I won't let you into my home. Find another way to check..."
And that's where the conversation just goes in circles... 🙂
Honestly, you could even tell them, "Look, my wife is in the living room half-naked waving a whip around. You understand why I can't let you in!"
Or, "An alien just threw up all over my apartment (and you know how messy aliens can be), so now isn't a good time."
Anyway, keep moving and give my best to PBS...
Get creative. 🙂
Elizabeth Price2 said:I'd just jump in here and add—technically, owning *any* device that can hop onto the internet (like a PC, a tablet, or even a smartphone, even if it doesn't have an actual FM radio built-in) falls under that whole "receiver" definition, which means you're also on the hook for the subscription.
Honestly, though? Along with all those rules, I think we should all start pulling out our cameras whenever they show up—since a camera isn't technically a "receiver"—to film the collectors. We should take a page out of the British playbook, where people used to totally mess with the BBC collectors. Seriously, once these guys see a camera pointed at them, they usually don't even bother trying to start a conversation!
Here's the link to the instructions (which I'm pretty sure is already pinned in this thread)
Elizabeth Price2 said:I'd just jump in here and add—technically, owning *any* device that can hop onto the internet (like a PC, a tablet, or even a smartphone, even if it doesn't have an actual FM radio built-in) falls under that whole "receiver" definition, which means you're also on the hook for the subscription.
Honestly, though? Along with all those rules, I think we should all start pulling out our cameras whenever they show up—since a camera isn't technically a "receiver"—to film the collectors. We should take a page out of the British playbook, where people used to totally mess with the BBC collectors. Seriously, once these guys see a camera pointed at them, they usually don't even bother trying to start a conversation!
Here's the link to the instructions (which I'm pretty sure is already pinned in this thread)
Michelle Alvarez8 said:The TV signal isn't actually running over the internet. Don't believe me? Go ahead—plug your TV antenna straight into your router and see what happens. Let me know how that works out for you! ☕
mistybear10 said:The whole bit about them streaming their show on their site, and how paying the license fee suddenly makes every single connected device liable, is just pure nonsense. Why should I be forced to pay a fee just because that option exists? I’ve got at least ten different knives in my kitchen, but that doesn't make me a cold-blooded killer. Just because you have access to something doesn't mean you actually use it. I haven't visited their website and I never will—I honestly couldn't care less.
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Elizabeth Price2 said:http://www.cnn.com/consumer/abc-news-mobile-streaming-coverage
So, NPR has been streaming their stuff online for a while now (though I don't think they carry every single sub-channel, if I'm reading this right)—which basically turns any device capable of picking up radio or video through whatever means necessary into a receiver, including pretty much anything with an internet connection.
Basically, just fire up the NPR website and see if you can stream their programming, then hit me back with what happens ☕
slycyclist342 said:That's just like having a TV where you only watch satellite programming
so why would you automatically owe a fee just because CNN broadcasts something via "over-the-air signal" that you don't watch and have never even tuned into?
Technically, it's the exact same situation... you have the ability to follow them one way or another
And besides, this isn't a "subscription," it's a "receiver ownership fee"
Michelle Alvarez8 said:Since we're already tossing links around like crazy—honestly, it's pure chaos! 😂 😂 Come on, be a pal and swing by! Ever wonder how things actually work? I was just browsing through HowStuffWorks—it’s honestly such a trip! Ever find yourself falling down those rabbit holes where you start with one question and end up learning about quantum physics three hours later? Anyone else? Just take a look at how radio waves work and the basics of how the internet actually functions. Once you've got those fundamentals down—then we can really get moving!
All these stories they're telling about... On air! Only people who have zero clue how the internet actually works fall for online streaming programs. Don't get me wrong—there’s absolutely nothing shameful about not understanding certain technologies; we live in a world full of specialists, and honestly, nobody knows everything about everything! But please, just listen to me for a second: calling what they do "internet broadcasting" is a total scam—it’s technically impossible to pull off that way.
CNN has their on-demand streaming now—which is fine, I mean, we're living in the 21st century after all! But calling that "broadcasting" just to justify those license fees? Using it as a way to scare people who don't know any better is nothing short of criminal.
It’s not even that you don't get how this works—it's that you're trying to push it as if you do! And honestly? You aren't helping anyone. Not yourself—since you aren't actually learning anything—not me, because I have to waste my time correcting you, and definitely not everyone else, since you're just spreading misinformation.
Just take it slow and play it smart. 🙂
mistybear10 said:I didn't say subscription, I said fee. 😉
Since when is my laptop a TV receiver!? I don't have a TV tuner card for it, and from what I know about tech, I can't even catch their signal without one. My laptop is a computer, not a TELEVISION RECEIVER!
I'm telling you, just because they started putting some—but not all—of their programming online doesn't give them the right to charge me a fee for owning a computer. Period. At this rate, I'll be paying a fee for my fridge or my washing machine soon just because they can connect to the internet!
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Elizabeth Price2 said:First off, why the attitude? We're on the same side here! 😉
Secondly, the public service fee is paid because you own a device capable of accessing the internet—that’s just a straight fact. I didn't make it up; it's right there in the Public Broadcasting Act, and the collectors enforce it.
So, let me say it again: if a device can access the internet, it can receive PBS radio and audiovisual programming. Period. Nowhere in the Law does it say the programming has to be received exclusively via radio waves. Get it now?
If you want to be extra clear, go read Article 3 of the Public Broadcasting Act where it defines what counts as PBS radio and audiovisual programming. And finally, check out that famous Article 34 (1): Anyone who owns or possesses a radio or television receiver, or any other device for receiving radio or audiovisual programming (hereafter referred to as a receiver) within the United States of America covered by a broadcast signal is required to pay PBS a monthly fee as determined by Article 35, paragraph 2 of this Act, unless otherwise specified herein.
Wait, what do you mean your TV isn't a receiver (since it doesn't have built-in digital tuner)? If you don't even have an antenna, you aren't paying anything. You're totally mistaken there.
Elizabeth Price2 said:First off, why the attitude? We're on the same side here! 😉
Secondly, the public service fee is paid because you own a device capable of accessing the internet—that’s just a straight fact. I didn't make it up; it's right there in the Public Broadcasting Act, and the collectors enforce it.
So, let me say it again: if a device can access the internet, it can receive PBS radio and audiovisual programming. Period. Nowhere in the Law does it say the programming has to be received exclusively via radio waves. Get it now?
If you want to be extra clear, go read Article 3 of the Public Broadcasting Act where it defines what counts as PBS radio and audiovisual programming. And finally, check out that famous Article 34 (1): Anyone who owns or possesses a radio or television receiver, or any other device for receiving radio or audiovisual programming (hereafter referred to as a receiver) within the United States of America covered by a broadcast signal is required to pay PBS a monthly fee as determined by Article 35, paragraph 2 of this Act, unless otherwise specified herein.
Wait, what do you mean your TV isn't a receiver (since it doesn't have built-in digital tuner)? If you don't even have an antenna, you aren't paying anything. You're totally mistaken there.
Elizabeth Price2 said:First off, why the attitude? We're on the same side here! 😉
Secondly, the public service fee is paid because you own a device capable of accessing the internet—that’s just a straight fact. I didn't make it up; it's right there in the Public Broadcasting Act, and the collectors enforce it.
So, let me say it again: if a device can access the internet, it can receive PBS radio and audiovisual programming. Period. Nowhere in the Law does it say the programming has to be received exclusively via radio waves. Get it now?
If you want to be extra clear, go read Article 3 of the Public Broadcasting Act where it defines what counts as PBS radio and audiovisual programming. And finally, check out that famous Article 34 (1): Anyone who owns or possesses a radio or television receiver, or any other device for receiving radio or audiovisual programming (hereafter referred to as a receiver) within the United States of America covered by a broadcast signal is required to pay PBS a monthly fee as determined by Article 35, paragraph 2 of this Act, unless otherwise specified herein.
Wait, what do you mean your TV isn't a receiver (since it doesn't have built-in digital tuner)? If you don't even have an antenna, you aren't paying anything. You're totally mistaken there.
Elizabeth Price2 said:First off, why the attitude? We're on the same side here! 😉
Secondly, the public service fee is paid because you own a device capable of accessing the internet—that’s just a straight fact. I didn't make it up; it's right there in the Public Broadcasting Act, and the collectors enforce it.
So, let me say it again: if a device can access the internet, it can receive PBS radio and audiovisual programming. Period. Nowhere in the Law does it say the programming has to be received exclusively via radio waves. Get it now?
If you want to be extra clear, go read Article 3 of the Public Broadcasting Act where it defines what counts as PBS radio and audiovisual programming. And finally, check out that famous Article 34 (1): Anyone who owns or possesses a radio or television receiver, or any other device for receiving radio or audiovisual programming (hereafter referred to as a receiver) within the United States of America covered by a broadcast signal is required to pay PBS a monthly fee as determined by Article 35, paragraph 2 of this Act, unless otherwise specified herein.
Wait, what do you mean your TV isn't a receiver (since it doesn't have built-in digital tuner)? If you don't even have an antenna, you aren't paying anything. You're totally mistaken there.
I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he's such a legend! Just sitting here thinking about him and honestly, my heart is just full. He’s got that vibe, you know? That one-in-a-million energy that just makes everything better. I could talk about him all day, though I probably wouldn't sound nearly as cool doing it—I'm way too much of a rambling mess most of the time! But yeah, seriously, what a total gem. kaže:
And why are you acting like such a big shot all of a sudden? Seriously! 🙂
I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he’s just such a vibe! He’s got that energy that just hits different, you know? Like, honestly, if more people were like him, the world would be a way less stressful place. Just pure, unadulterated good vibes! kaže:
Look, we’re just not on the same page here—mostly because you kept trying to feed me all that NPR's propaganda and junk news like it was actually legit. Sorry about that, buddy! 😁
Just because some debt collectors are out there doing their thing doesn't mean what they’re doing actually makes sense—or that it should be allowed to happen! I mean, seriously, you've got people practically breaking into folks' homes, intimidating them, and shaking them down for cash. If you're totally cool with that kind of shady behavior, then hey, feel free to let them target you next time! All I'm asking is that you don't go around telling everyone else they just have to sit there and take it. 😉
I don't have any text to work with yet! Send over the post you want me to overhaul, and I'll get right on it—turning it into something fresh, punchy, and totally American while keeping that specific, high-energy vibe intact. Ready when you are! kaže:
I mean, whatever that show happens to be, I seriously cannot get it to run on my computer—it's just not happening! So, like, why am I even footing the bill at this point? It feels totally pointless! 😕
Michelle Alvarez8 said:Actually, we aren't on the same side since you're trying to push all that PBS propaganda on me. Sorry, buddy, but no. 😁
And why the ego? 🙂
Just because collectors are enforcing something doesn't mean it actually makes sense or should be happening! People are having folks barge into their homes, threatening them and extorting money from citizens. If you're cool with that kind of behavior—be my guest! But please, don't try to tell people they *should* be letting this happen. 😉
Whatever is in that programming, I can't even watch it on my computer. So why on earth should I pay? 😕
A computer doesn't count as one of those "other receivers"—it just doesn't pick up radio signals. Sorry, folks! 😁
Elizabeth Price2 said:Man, you are being so incredibly flaky, I can't even deal! Seriously, what is up with you? 😁I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he's such a legend! Just sitting here thinking about him and honestly, my heart is just full. He’s got that vibe, you know? That one-in-a-million energy that just makes everything better. I could talk about him all day, though I probably wouldn't sound nearly as cool doing it—I'm way too much of a rambling mess most of the time! But yeah, seriously, what a total gem. kaže:
And why are you acting like such a big shot all of a sudden? Seriously! 🙂
Look, if someone comes at me with that massive ego, I’m just gonna give that same energy right back to them—total action-reaction style. It’s honestly pretty simple!I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he’s just such a vibe! He’s got that energy that just hits different, you know? Like, honestly, if more people were like him, the world would be a way less stressful place. Just pure, unadulterated good vibes! kaže:
Look, we’re just not on the same page here—mostly because you kept trying to feed me all that NPR's propaganda and junk news like it was actually legit. Sorry about that, buddy! 😁
Just because some debt collectors are out there doing their thing doesn't mean what they’re doing actually makes sense—or that it should be allowed to happen! I mean, seriously, you've got people practically breaking into folks' homes, intimidating them, and shaking them down for cash. If you're totally cool with that kind of shady behavior, then hey, feel free to let them target you next time! All I'm asking is that you don't go around telling everyone else they just have to sit there and take it. 😉
Look, I’m not out here trying to pull any fast ones on anyone—I’m just sticking to what the Public Broadcasting Act actually says! If anyone’s trying to play games or dodge the rules around here, honestly, that’s on you. Because if people actually listen to your logic, they’re gonna end up walking right out the door to meet the tax man while clutching a smartphone—which, let's be real, probably has an FM radio anyway—or they'll just happily invite the whole situation into their house thinking, "Hey, I don't have a TV, I just have a PC!" and then try to act all tough when it comes to paying their dues. It's just common sense, really!
Look, before you even dive into this—and I’m just putting this out there now—we aren't actually debating whether or not people should be allowed into someone's house or apartment. Seriously, we totally settled that argument ages ago!I don't have any text to work with yet! Send over the post you want me to overhaul, and I'll get right on it—turning it into something fresh, punchy, and totally American while keeping that specific, high-energy vibe intact. Ready when you are! kaže:
I mean, whatever that show happens to be, I seriously cannot get it to run on my computer—it's just not happening! So, like, why am I even footing the bill at this point? It feels totally pointless! 😕
I mean, obviously a computer can't just magically pull in NPR's programming out of thin air! It’s like saying a TV won't work without a built-in tuner—or like my car radio being totally useless if I don't have an antenna, right? It's just how things work. But that doesn't mean you can't make it happen with a little extra gear—you know, like adding a TV tuner card, setting up an antenna, or just hopping onto the internet. So, seriously, why are you acting like this is some impossible mystery?
Look, like I was saying before—it’s honestly kind of ridiculous! It’s like someone walking around claiming they own this vintage TV that only ever gets used to hook up a PlayStation. You know what I mean? There isn't an antenna in sight, no satellite dish, nothing—zero connection to any broadcast. So, seriously, why on earth should they be stuck paying those fees? It just doesn't make sense! 😕 Look, I don't know how else to lay this out for you—it’s pretty straightforward! Just the simple fact that you own a TV means you're on the hook for the fee. It's basically built into the system—how else am I supposed to explain it to you?
Seriously, just give the text right before that last quote a quick read—it totally applies to this little gem you dropped. And I'm gonna say it again just so we're clear: there is zero connection to "radio" or any other kind of signal here. The Public Broadcasting Act mentions "portable signals," which is such a super broad category that it definitely covers way more than the one specific thing you keep insisting on.
Elizabeth Price2 said:Man, you are being so incredibly flaky, I can't even deal! Seriously, what is up with you? 😁I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he's such a legend! Just sitting here thinking about him and honestly, my heart is just full. He’s got that vibe, you know? That one-in-a-million energy that just makes everything better. I could talk about him all day, though I probably wouldn't sound nearly as cool doing it—I'm way too much of a rambling mess most of the time! But yeah, seriously, what a total gem. kaže:
And why are you acting like such a big shot all of a sudden? Seriously! 🙂
Look, if someone comes at me with that massive ego, I’m just gonna give that same energy right back to them—total action-reaction style. It’s honestly pretty simple!I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he’s just such a vibe! He’s got that energy that just hits different, you know? Like, honestly, if more people were like him, the world would be a way less stressful place. Just pure, unadulterated good vibes! kaže:
Look, we’re just not on the same page here—mostly because you kept trying to feed me all that NPR's propaganda and junk news like it was actually legit. Sorry about that, buddy! 😁
Just because some debt collectors are out there doing their thing doesn't mean what they’re doing actually makes sense—or that it should be allowed to happen! I mean, seriously, you've got people practically breaking into folks' homes, intimidating them, and shaking them down for cash. If you're totally cool with that kind of shady behavior, then hey, feel free to let them target you next time! All I'm asking is that you don't go around telling everyone else they just have to sit there and take it. 😉
Look, I’m not out here trying to pull any fast ones on anyone—I’m just sticking to what the Public Broadcasting Act actually says! If anyone’s trying to play games or dodge the rules around here, honestly, that’s on you. Because if people actually listen to your logic, they’re gonna end up walking right out the door to meet the tax man while clutching a smartphone—which, let's be real, probably has an FM radio anyway—or they'll just happily invite the whole situation into their house thinking, "Hey, I don't have a TV, I just have a PC!" and then try to act all tough when it comes to paying their dues. It's just common sense, really!
Look, before you even dive into this—and I’m just putting this out there now—we aren't actually debating whether or not people should be allowed into someone's house or apartment. Seriously, we totally settled that argument ages ago!I don't have any text to work with yet! Send over the post you want me to overhaul, and I'll get right on it—turning it into something fresh, punchy, and totally American while keeping that specific, high-energy vibe intact. Ready when you are! kaže:
I mean, whatever that show happens to be, I seriously cannot get it to run on my computer—it's just not happening! So, like, why am I even footing the bill at this point? It feels totally pointless! 😕
I mean, obviously a computer can't just magically pull in NPR's programming out of thin air! It’s like saying a TV won't work without a built-in tuner—or like my car radio being totally useless if I don't have an antenna, right? It's just how things work. But that doesn't mean you can't make it happen with a little extra gear—you know, like adding a TV tuner card, setting up an antenna, or just hopping onto the internet. So, seriously, why are you acting like this is some impossible mystery?
Look, like I was saying before—it’s honestly kind of ridiculous! It’s like someone walking around claiming they own this vintage TV that only ever gets used to hook up a PlayStation. You know what I mean? There isn't an antenna in sight, no satellite dish, nothing—zero connection to any broadcast. So, seriously, why on earth should they be stuck paying those fees? It just doesn't make sense! 😕 Look, I don't know how else to lay this out for you—it’s pretty straightforward! Just the simple fact that you own a TV means you're on the hook for the fee. It's basically built into the system—how else am I supposed to explain it to you?
Seriously, just give the text right before that last quote a quick read—it totally applies to this little gem you dropped. And I'm gonna say it again just so we're clear: there is zero connection to "radio" or any other kind of signal here. The Public Broadcasting Act mentions "portable signals," which is such a super broad category that it definitely covers way more than the one specific thing you keep insisting on.
Elizabeth Price2 said:Man, you are being so incredibly flaky, I can't even deal! Seriously, what is up with you? 😁I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he's such a legend! Just sitting here thinking about him and honestly, my heart is just full. He’s got that vibe, you know? That one-in-a-million energy that just makes everything better. I could talk about him all day, though I probably wouldn't sound nearly as cool doing it—I'm way too much of a rambling mess most of the time! But yeah, seriously, what a total gem. kaže:
And why are you acting like such a big shot all of a sudden? Seriously! 🙂
Look, if someone comes at me with that massive ego, I’m just gonna give that same energy right back to them—total action-reaction style. It’s honestly pretty simple!I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he’s just such a vibe! He’s got that energy that just hits different, you know? Like, honestly, if more people were like him, the world would be a way less stressful place. Just pure, unadulterated good vibes! kaže:
Look, we’re just not on the same page here—mostly because you kept trying to feed me all that NPR's propaganda and junk news like it was actually legit. Sorry about that, buddy! 😁
Just because some debt collectors are out there doing their thing doesn't mean what they’re doing actually makes sense—or that it should be allowed to happen! I mean, seriously, you've got people practically breaking into folks' homes, intimidating them, and shaking them down for cash. If you're totally cool with that kind of shady behavior, then hey, feel free to let them target you next time! All I'm asking is that you don't go around telling everyone else they just have to sit there and take it. 😉
Look, I’m not out here trying to pull any fast ones on anyone—I’m just sticking to what the Public Broadcasting Act actually says! If anyone’s trying to play games or dodge the rules around here, honestly, that’s on you. Because if people actually listen to your logic, they’re gonna end up walking right out the door to meet the tax man while clutching a smartphone—which, let's be real, probably has an FM radio anyway—or they'll just happily invite the whole situation into their house thinking, "Hey, I don't have a TV, I just have a PC!" and then try to act all tough when it comes to paying their dues. It's just common sense, really!
Look, before you even dive into this—and I’m just putting this out there now—we aren't actually debating whether or not people should be allowed into someone's house or apartment. Seriously, we totally settled that argument ages ago!I don't have any text to work with yet! Send over the post you want me to overhaul, and I'll get right on it—turning it into something fresh, punchy, and totally American while keeping that specific, high-energy vibe intact. Ready when you are! kaže:
I mean, whatever that show happens to be, I seriously cannot get it to run on my computer—it's just not happening! So, like, why am I even footing the bill at this point? It feels totally pointless! 😕
I mean, obviously a computer can't just magically pull in NPR's programming out of thin air! It’s like saying a TV won't work without a built-in tuner—or like my car radio being totally useless if I don't have an antenna, right? It's just how things work. But that doesn't mean you can't make it happen with a little extra gear—you know, like adding a TV tuner card, setting up an antenna, or just hopping onto the internet. So, seriously, why are you acting like this is some impossible mystery?
Look, like I was saying before—it’s honestly kind of ridiculous! It’s like someone walking around claiming they own this vintage TV that only ever gets used to hook up a PlayStation. You know what I mean? There isn't an antenna in sight, no satellite dish, nothing—zero connection to any broadcast. So, seriously, why on earth should they be stuck paying those fees? It just doesn't make sense! 😕 Look, I don't know how else to lay this out for you—it’s pretty straightforward! Just the simple fact that you own a TV means you're on the hook for the fee. It's basically built into the system—how else am I supposed to explain it to you?
Seriously, just give the text right before that last quote a quick read—it totally applies to this little gem you dropped. And I'm gonna say it again just so we're clear: there is zero connection to "radio" or any other kind of signal here. The Public Broadcasting Act mentions "portable signals," which is such a super broad category that it definitely covers way more than the one specific thing you keep insisting on.
Elizabeth Price2 said:Man, you are being so incredibly flaky, I can't even deal! Seriously, what is up with you? 😁I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he's such a legend! Just sitting here thinking about him and honestly, my heart is just full. He’s got that vibe, you know? That one-in-a-million energy that just makes everything better. I could talk about him all day, though I probably wouldn't sound nearly as cool doing it—I'm way too much of a rambling mess most of the time! But yeah, seriously, what a total gem. kaže:
And why are you acting like such a big shot all of a sudden? Seriously! 🙂
Look, if someone comes at me with that massive ego, I’m just gonna give that same energy right back to them—total action-reaction style. It’s honestly pretty simple!I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he’s just such a vibe! He’s got that energy that just hits different, you know? Like, honestly, if more people were like him, the world would be a way less stressful place. Just pure, unadulterated good vibes! kaže:
Look, we’re just not on the same page here—mostly because you kept trying to feed me all that NPR's propaganda and junk news like it was actually legit. Sorry about that, buddy! 😁
Just because some debt collectors are out there doing their thing doesn't mean what they’re doing actually makes sense—or that it should be allowed to happen! I mean, seriously, you've got people practically breaking into folks' homes, intimidating them, and shaking them down for cash. If you're totally cool with that kind of shady behavior, then hey, feel free to let them target you next time! All I'm asking is that you don't go around telling everyone else they just have to sit there and take it. 😉
Look, I’m not out here trying to pull any fast ones on anyone—I’m just sticking to what the Public Broadcasting Act actually says! If anyone’s trying to play games or dodge the rules around here, honestly, that’s on you. Because if people actually listen to your logic, they’re gonna end up walking right out the door to meet the tax man while clutching a smartphone—which, let's be real, probably has an FM radio anyway—or they'll just happily invite the whole situation into their house thinking, "Hey, I don't have a TV, I just have a PC!" and then try to act all tough when it comes to paying their dues. It's just common sense, really!
Look, before you even dive into this—and I’m just putting this out there now—we aren't actually debating whether or not people should be allowed into someone's house or apartment. Seriously, we totally settled that argument ages ago!I don't have any text to work with yet! Send over the post you want me to overhaul, and I'll get right on it—turning it into something fresh, punchy, and totally American while keeping that specific, high-energy vibe intact. Ready when you are! kaže:
I mean, whatever that show happens to be, I seriously cannot get it to run on my computer—it's just not happening! So, like, why am I even footing the bill at this point? It feels totally pointless! 😕
I mean, obviously a computer can't just magically pull in NPR's programming out of thin air! It’s like saying a TV won't work without a built-in tuner—or like my car radio being totally useless if I don't have an antenna, right? It's just how things work. But that doesn't mean you can't make it happen with a little extra gear—you know, like adding a TV tuner card, setting up an antenna, or just hopping onto the internet. So, seriously, why are you acting like this is some impossible mystery?
Look, like I was saying before—it’s honestly kind of ridiculous! It’s like someone walking around claiming they own this vintage TV that only ever gets used to hook up a PlayStation. You know what I mean? There isn't an antenna in sight, no satellite dish, nothing—zero connection to any broadcast. So, seriously, why on earth should they be stuck paying those fees? It just doesn't make sense! 😕 Look, I don't know how else to lay this out for you—it’s pretty straightforward! Just the simple fact that you own a TV means you're on the hook for the fee. It's basically built into the system—how else am I supposed to explain it to you?
Seriously, just give the text right before that last quote a quick read—it totally applies to this little gem you dropped. And I'm gonna say it again just so we're clear: there is zero connection to "radio" or any other kind of signal here. The Public Broadcasting Act mentions "portable signals," which is such a super broad category that it definitely covers way more than the one specific thing you keep insisting on.
Elizabeth Price2 said:Man, you are being so incredibly flaky, I can't even deal! Seriously, what is up with you? 😁I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he's such a legend! Just sitting here thinking about him and honestly, my heart is just full. He’s got that vibe, you know? That one-in-a-million energy that just makes everything better. I could talk about him all day, though I probably wouldn't sound nearly as cool doing it—I'm way too much of a rambling mess most of the time! But yeah, seriously, what a total gem. kaže:
And why are you acting like such a big shot all of a sudden? Seriously! 🙂
Look, if someone comes at me with that massive ego, I’m just gonna give that same energy right back to them—total action-reaction style. It’s honestly pretty simple!I can't even begin to describe how much I love this guy—seriously, he’s just such a vibe! He’s got that energy that just hits different, you know? Like, honestly, if more people were like him, the world would be a way less stressful place. Just pure, unadulterated good vibes! kaže:
Look, we’re just not on the same page here—mostly because you kept trying to feed me all that NPR's propaganda and junk news like it was actually legit. Sorry about that, buddy! 😁
Just because some debt collectors are out there doing their thing doesn't mean what they’re doing actually makes sense—or that it should be allowed to happen! I mean, seriously, you've got people practically breaking into folks' homes, intimidating them, and shaking them down for cash. If you're totally cool with that kind of shady behavior, then hey, feel free to let them target you next time! All I'm asking is that you don't go around telling everyone else they just have to sit there and take it. 😉
Look, I’m not out here trying to pull any fast ones on anyone—I’m just sticking to what the Public Broadcasting Act actually says! If anyone’s trying to play games or dodge the rules around here, honestly, that’s on you. Because if people actually listen to your logic, they’re gonna end up walking right out the door to meet the tax man while clutching a smartphone—which, let's be real, probably has an FM radio anyway—or they'll just happily invite the whole situation into their house thinking, "Hey, I don't have a TV, I just have a PC!" and then try to act all tough when it comes to paying their dues. It's just common sense, really!
Look, before you even dive into this—and I’m just putting this out there now—we aren't actually debating whether or not people should be allowed into someone's house or apartment. Seriously, we totally settled that argument ages ago!I don't have any text to work with yet! Send over the post you want me to overhaul, and I'll get right on it—turning it into something fresh, punchy, and totally American while keeping that specific, high-energy vibe intact. Ready when you are! kaže:
I mean, whatever that show happens to be, I seriously cannot get it to run on my computer—it's just not happening! So, like, why am I even footing the bill at this point? It feels totally pointless! 😕
I mean, obviously a computer can't just magically pull in NPR's programming out of thin air! It’s like saying a TV won't work without a built-in tuner—or like my car radio being totally useless if I don't have an antenna, right? It's just how things work. But that doesn't mean you can't make it happen with a little extra gear—you know, like adding a TV tuner card, setting up an antenna, or just hopping onto the internet. So, seriously, why are you acting like this is some impossible mystery?
Look, like I was saying before—it’s honestly kind of ridiculous! It’s like someone walking around claiming they own this vintage TV that only ever gets used to hook up a PlayStation. You know what I mean? There isn't an antenna in sight, no satellite dish, nothing—zero connection to any broadcast. So, seriously, why on earth should they be stuck paying those fees? It just doesn't make sense! 😕 Look, I don't know how else to lay this out for you—it’s pretty straightforward! Just the simple fact that you own a TV means you're on the hook for the fee. It's basically built into the system—how else am I supposed to explain it to you?
Seriously, just give the text right before that last quote a quick read—it totally applies to this little gem you dropped. And I'm gonna say it again just so we're clear: there is zero connection to "radio" or any other kind of signal here. The Public Broadcasting Act mentions "portable signals," which is such a super broad category that it definitely covers way more than the one specific thing you keep insisting on.
Michelle Alvarez8 said:So why the shocker? You show up, drop something stupid, and then act surprised when—get this—Michelle Alvarez8 gets a little sassy with you. 😂
Don't post nonsense and nobody will be snappy with you. It's just simple cause and effect. 🙂
I have no idea where you read that I'm advocating for letting tax collectors into your home.
🙂 And yeah, you can talk on your phone right in front of a collector without any issues—I don't see the problem?
Even if they start grilling you about what kind of phone it is or if it has a radio receiver, you don't owe them a single word. You don't even have to say "hello" if they greet you.
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Yeah, well, you think I'm playing dumb because I actually know what I'm talking about. Great. 😁 Just a second ago, you were quoting legal articles about receiving radio and TV signals, right? So, you turn on your TV and pick up signals without an antenna. Then you turn on your computer and... Windows boots up.
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The Public Broadcasting Act doesn't say anything about paying a fee for computers—you're just making things up now! wtf Quote 🤷
I'll bite—so what exactly falls under this "broadcast signal"? Here's your chance to school the guy who's acting like a know-it-all. Go for it. ☕
Elizabeth Price2 said:Look, I feel like I’ve already explained this to you a dozen times—along with everything else you brought up in your last post—but it's clearly going in one ear and out the other. You're acting like a horse wearing those blinders that force you to look in only one direction (I think Google calls them "blinders," if I recall correctly!) 😉
Anyway, why don't you tell *me* what actually falls under your definition of that "so-called second receiver"—you know, that "device for receiving radio or audiovisual programs"?
And yeah, just curious—when you turn on the TV without an antenna, what kind of "signals" are you actually picking up? 🤣
Elizabeth Price2 said:Look, I feel like I’ve already explained this to you a dozen times—along with everything else you brought up in your last post—but it's clearly going in one ear and out the other. You're acting like a horse wearing those blinders that force you to look in only one direction (I think Google calls them "blinders," if I recall correctly!) 😉
Anyway, why don't you tell *me* what actually falls under your definition of that "so-called second receiver"—you know, that "device for receiving radio or audiovisual programs"?
And yeah, just curious—when you turn on the TV without an antenna, what kind of "signals" are you actually picking up? 🤣
Elizabeth Price2 said:Look, I feel like I’ve already explained this to you a dozen times—along with everything else you brought up in your last post—but it's clearly going in one ear and out the other. You're acting like a horse wearing those blinders that force you to look in only one direction (I think Google calls them "blinders," if I recall correctly!) 😉
Anyway, why don't you tell *me* what actually falls under your definition of that "so-called second receiver"—you know, that "device for receiving radio or audiovisual programs"?
And yeah, just curious—when you turn on the TV without an antenna, what kind of "signals" are you actually picking up? 🤣
Michelle Alvarez8 said:I don't need Google to tell me we're actually talking about shutter speeds. Blinkers are something else entirely! 🙂
And no, you haven't answered me once. ☕
As soon as you can describe what a "portable signal" actually is. 😉
Just for you, a quick three-second search: http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...6151357AA9WLml 😘
Elizabeth Price2 said:First off, why the attitude? We're on the same side here! 😉
Secondly, the public service fee is paid because you own a device capable of accessing the internet—that’s just a straight fact. I didn't make it up; it's right there in the Public Broadcasting Act, and the collectors enforce it.
So, let me say it again: if a device can access the internet, it can receive PBS radio and audiovisual programming. Period. Nowhere in the Law does it say the programming has to be received exclusively via radio waves. Get it now?
If you want to be extra clear, go read Article 3 of the Public Broadcasting Act where it defines what counts as PBS radio and audiovisual programming. And finally, check out that famous Article 34 (1): Anyone who owns or possesses a radio or television receiver, or any other device for receiving radio or audiovisual programming (hereafter referred to as a receiver) within the United States of America covered by a broadcast signal is required to pay PBS a monthly fee as determined by Article 35, paragraph 2 of this Act, unless otherwise specified herein.
Wait, what do you mean your TV isn't a receiver (since it doesn't have built-in digital tuner)? If you don't even have an antenna, you aren't paying anything. You're totally mistaken there.
Taylor Roberts3 said:So look, I’ve got my PlayStation set up and an old TV. I don't have cable, digital antenna, nothing in my apartment. Why the hell am I supposed to be paying them for a subscription? I can't even play my PS5 without a TV. Basically, just by buying the console, I'm stuck handing over $27 every single month for some garbage service that my TV hasn't seen in years. This TV runs on analog signals, and those signals haven't existed in my neighborhood for ages.
