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coastalheron12 coastalheron12 Active Member
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joined Oct 2018
#241 ·
Google's everyone's best friend, right? 😉

So, you just type in The Washington Post (actual legit news, not some tabloid junk like The New York Post) and here are the first three hits:

1. http://www.aftenposten.no/verden/Hem...lag-9687b.html
Secret police report: This is the most dangerous Swedish neighborhood

2. http://www.aftenposten.no/kultur/TV-...ge-54824b.html
60 Minutes crew attacked in Sweden

3. http://www.aftenposten.no/verden/Pol...y-218834b.html
Police win third night in Brooklyn (article below explains how the cops finally got things under control after two nights of car burnings, school attacks, and people throwing rocks at them)

Honestly, I don't have time to mess around with armchair experts who think their own opinions are the only facts that matter—so I'm done with this thread.
Nicole Nelson8 Nicole Nelson8 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2018
#242 ·
Hlebyn said:(Honestly, you really need to master those "deep web" skills to recover deleted data from the internet.)

That’s just not how things work nowadays. Even if you aren't a tech wizard, there's an easier way. If you ever stumble upon an article that looks like it might vanish, just head over to archive.org and save a copy.
stormyangler12 stormyangler12 Member
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#243 ·
I visited the Kingdom of Sweden for the first time this summer.
My impression? It’s a massive country whose primary drawback is a sparse population—specifically regarding the labor force (and housing, for that matter).
I was based out of a small town of about 15,000 people, and I was genuinely stunned to see a massive industrial zone bordering the town, stretching roughly 6.2 miles in length. Given how tiny the town is, I found myself wondering who on earth is actually working there; it stands in total opposition to our local cities and their typical industrial setups.

The second thing that caught me off guard was the attitude of the Swedes toward recent immigrants.
It is quite evident how much effort goes into ensuring these individuals integrate and adapt to society as smoothly as possible. I attended a concert in a large park where the headliner was the pro-African singer Saraha—clearly an intentional choice, as the crowd was a true melting pot. You had the Turk and the Swede dancing and clapping together (among others, I assume). Around the perimeter of the park, groups of Arapkinja (likely North African, dressed in black niqabs) were serving up traditional dishes and teas prepared right on the spot. The atmosphere was excellent.
On the street, it isn't rare to see a Nordic couple walking with one or two young immigrant children; on weekends, locals even host newcomers for snacks and sweets (apparently, they get paid for this).
There is something particularly charming about seeing daycare teachers walking children through the streets when a Black child and a blonde child hold hands, chatting away in some hybrid language.
If someone clearly struggles or looks confused in a shop, a Swede will immediately step in to offer help or an explanation.
Since older immigrants generally don't work, they are just as numerous on the streets as the locals (counting EU settlers in that group). Pedestrian traffic is perfectly fine, without any real congestion... etc.

During my entire stay, I saw a police officer only once, passing by in a car.

Everything appears idyllic and proactive. Now, as to how long this can last or how it ultimately ends? I have no idea.

ps
How do I switch from I-95 (heading south) onto I-95 toward Ljungbi
lonebadger6 lonebadger6 Active Member
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#244 ·
You could argue that both sides of the coin hold some truth here. I remember seeing a user from Sweden posting something pretty similar on the immigration thread, making points that went both ways... talking about how integration works wonders in small towns while everything falls apart in the big cities.
Mark Harris66 Mark Harris66 Active Member
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#245 ·
As long as they’re spread out in smaller towns, integration actually works. The stats on those European Union portals—specifically the migrant sections—show that things aren't going great, though the European Union is probably the last group to ever admit failure... But here's the thing! Over 90% of migrants are packed into big cities in these "ghettos," and honestly, there's zero chance of integration happening there. And how are you supposed to just scatter them into small towns? You can't exactly force people to relocate. If you try moving too many into small towns, they just become a significant minority, and you end up with ghetto neighborhoods all over again. It’s just human nature—people gravitate toward their own kind or fellow countrymen first rather than looking for the local Swedish person... which makes total sense, really.
Even in the USA and Canada—both major immigrant nations where most people are immigrants or descendants of them—Black communities mostly hang with Black communities, Jews with Jews, Irish with Irish, and so on... yet those are considered true multicultural societies. We have Chinatowns, Little Italies in every major city, etc.
Basically: birds of a feather flock together. It’s an old saying, but nothing about human nature has changed...
Lisa Jackson7 Lisa Jackson7 Regular
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#246 ·
Integration in Sweden hasn't even come close to keeping pace with the massive wave of immigration over the last decade—if not longer.
Dr. Tino Sanandaji, a Swedish economist of Kurdish descent, sat down for a fascinating interview...

Sweden on the Brink? – An Interview with Dr. Tino Sanandaji

E. Tavares: Thanks for joining us. We wanted to dive into a pretty touchy subject right now—mass immigration in Sweden, something you’ve spent a ton of time researching. You've been vocal about some heavy concerns regarding current trends and where this is all heading.

We actually studied in your country back in the mid-90s and loved it. Even back then, there was a decent immigrant population, but for the most part, everyone just seemed to coexist. Middle Eastern girls dressed like any native origin Swedish Girl and were very open and friendly. Honestly, the only time we saw any real friction between groups was at a nightclub. So, what's actually shifted since then?


T. Sanandaji: I wouldn't say the actual relationship between migrants and native Swedes has fundamentally changed. If anything, things have improved slightly.

But look—back in 1990, non-European immigrants made up only about 3% of the population. Any issues were easy to isolate and handle within the broader social fabric. Now, that number has jumped to around 13-14%, and it's climbing by maybe 1-2 percentage points every year, alongside persistent gaps in wages, jobs, and schooling. It isn't about how deep the divides are; it's about the sheer scale of them.

You still have a sizeable number of Iranians , Iraqis and others who are fully integrated, dress like any Westerner, speak fluent Swedish and openly talk to anyone. That crowd is actually larger than it was in 1990. But then you have this other group—people living in ghettos who don't speak much Swedish, don't feel connected to society, struggle with unemployment, and so on. That specific group has exploded. Once a group hits a certain size, it starts impacting everything—schools, public spaces, the whole works.

AT a theoretical level There is an idea proposed by Professor Edward Lazear fra The Stanford business School where integration is a function of group size. When immigration is small, most people surrounding the newcomers are locals, making integration a natural, gradual social process: chatting with neighbors, working together, soaking up the culture, and picking up the language. But once that group reaches a "critical mass," you run into a problem. If you don't feel the need to integrate, you can just stay within your own community, work with other immigrants, and skip the language lessons entirely. It makes integration way harder.
Walter Long7 Walter Long7 Active Member
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#247 ·
Mark Harris66 said:As long as they’re spread out in smaller towns, integration actually works. The stats on those European Union portals—specifically the migrant sections—show that things aren't going great, though the European Union is probably the last group to ever admit failure... But here's the thing! Over 90% of migrants are packed into big cities in these "ghettos," and honestly, there's zero chance of integration happening there. And how are you supposed to just scatter them into small towns? You can't exactly force people to relocate. If you try moving too many into small towns, they just become a significant minority, and you end up with ghetto neighborhoods all over again. It’s just human nature—people gravitate toward their own kind or fellow countrymen first rather than looking for the local Swedish person... which makes total sense, really.
Even in the USA and Canada—both major immigrant nations where most people are immigrants or descendants of them—Black communities mostly hang with Black communities, Jews with Jews, Irish with Irish, and so on... yet those are considered true multicultural societies. We have Chinatowns, Little Italies in every major city, etc.
Basically: birds of a feather flock together. It’s an old saying, but nothing about human nature has changed...

The vast majority are in the cities, but in Sweden, the authorities specifically tried to prevent "white flight"—which happens in other countries—so they pushed migrants out into the rest of the country. As a result, you had these small towns where the numbers reached levels that felt like nearly half the village, or they'd make up a third of a school's enrollment overnight.
The North didn't take as much because it's freezing up there, but there are plenty of articles—even in English—where people complain about the cold, the isolation, and their desperate desire to move to a city. Basically, the government refused to give Swedes any breathing room; they insisted that this integration *must* happen, which is why in that video you see that even the Swedes are being forced to adapt to a "new" Sweden.

I'll say it again regarding those zones some of you mentioned: these areas aren't like certain neighborhoods in the US or Brazil where you literally can't walk in or out. However, they are often spots where emergency services and firefighters face attacks, requiring police escorts. These are the areas where you frequently see cars being torched and things like that.
Walter Long7 Walter Long7 Active Member
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#248 ·
Speaking of which, here’s Gotland—the largest island in Sweden, home to about 60,000 people, with roughly half of them living in the main hub, Visby.
For the most part, up until last year, the place was relatively untouched by migration. Take 2014, for instance; the Swedish Democrat (who advocate for controlled immigration, though the media would label them far right 😵) saw very little influx there. In fact, locals on the island actually complained about how overly homogeneous the society was.

However, things have shifted significantly over the last few years. What used to be a virtually untouched area has seen a substantial number of migrants arrive since 2011.

To give you a concrete example, the principal at a school in Högby on the island recently resigned because the situation has become catastrophic—teachers are walking out, too. The issues range from students not knowing Swedish to falling behind in the curriculum, which leads to terrible academic performance and struggles just to keep classes running. They’re also dealing with vandalism and property damage.
Naturally, the education board is acting surprised, given all the glowing reports they heard just a few months ago. Of course, those kinds of "wonderful" statements are made everywhere, while nobody bothers to report what the actual reality looks like.

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel...rtikel=6534695
Brandon Gomez2 Brandon Gomez2 Member
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#249 ·
Registered official said:1. Secret Police Report: Here are Sweden's most dangerous neighborhoods
Secret police report: This is the most dangerous neighborhood in Sweden.

Aha! The headline is practically screaming "Secret Police Report: Here are Sweden's most dangerous neighborhoods." It’s such a blatant grab for attention. The whole article is just loaded with these massive, sweeping generalizations—total clickbait fluff designed to stir the pot. Per GudmundsonAnd then they’d just have to awkwardly admit that it wasn't even a secret police report to begin with, but actually... I can't even begin to process this. Seriously. This is just... wow.Yeah, exactly the same name that everyone here keeps claiming they've read like a dozen times already.

Alright, ladies and gentlemen, listen up! Per Gudmundson for The Wall Street Journal, Thomas Olsen for The New York Times even if Liz Hayes on 60 Minutes Australia They’re seriously claiming there are 55 different zones where even the cops don't feel safe stepping foot!

What does that report actually say about those 55 danger zones?

Not a chance. Honestly, after dealing with all those media hacks who basically make a living by blowing everything out of proportion and peddling paranoia, I've learned my lesson. The Swedish Police were actually pretty blunt about this:

Look, in most of those high-risk areas, things haven't actually spiraled that far yet. It’s not like we're seeing full-blown parallel societies where an entirely different social order is taking over. It's just not there.

There isn't even any talk about parallel governments happening, not even in the most high-risk areas.

So, what now?

Wait, are we seriously saying we messed up the translation here? Like, did we actually take "In most areas, police can still walk around freely and patrol on foot without worrying about getting jumped" and turn it into "But he’s talking about zones that are insanely dangerous to enter, where basically a shadow government is running things—areas dominated by migrant populations"? Seriously? That's a massive leap!

registered ombudsman said:2. I can't believe I just finished reading this piece from The New York Times. Seriously, you guys have to check it out. It’s about that TV series everyone’s talking about—it’s wild! Honestly, some of the stuff they're covering is just mind-blowing. It makes you think about how much media shapes what we actually see happening in the world. Just... wow. Such a heavy read but totally worth it.
The 60 Minutes crew just got jumped in Sweden!

What on earth is the US police doing?!? Closing cases without any actual charges. Maybe they got away with it because...

Sverigeradiu reports:
60 Minutes apparently teamed up with Avpixlat, an American anti-immigration online outlet that calls itself an "alternative journalism" platform and a "thorn in the side of the PC-establishment’s journalists and politicians." Avpixlat claims to uncover "inconvenient truths and opinions regarding American immigration and migration policy."

Global media outlets have called Avpixlat an American “media outlet” and “news service.” Still, plenty of mainstream American media—including papers like The New York Post—have slammed Avpixlat as a "hate site."

So we've got the US crew working with this American team that some people hail as heroes fighting against toxic political correctness, while everyone else in the mainstream calls them a hate group. Interestingly, according to BKB, the police didn't even report stone-throwing, just a car attack, and Sverigeradiu hasn't given their take on the situation yet.

Oh, right. Speaking of that "no go Britain" stuff mentioned above—which people are now using as "proof" of no-go zones in the US—that footage was actually aired back on November 8, 2004. Yeah, twelve years ago! And now they're digging it out of the archives. The Glasgow City Council actually accused the BBC crew of egging on teenage gangs to fight each other just to get better shots, but those scary little immigrant(?) gangs weren't broken up by the police—they were handled by local code enforcement.

reg. ovisnik said:3. http://www.aftenposten.no/verden/Pol...y-218834b.html
Police regained control on the 3rd night in Rinkeby (see the report below where, after two nights of cars being torched, schools being hit, and police being stoned, they finally got things under control)

And it took them three whole days to get it under control. So much for those "no-go zones" where nobody dares to step foot.

All jokes aside, there's some more concrete data regarding the unrest from New Statesman: The Swedish riots: What really happened?
Inequality, not immigration, was what sparked the unrest.


So, it was the economy, not immigration.

Check the link—those riots in Sweden back in 2013 actually started in Husby as a protest against police brutality! Basically, the police ended a 69-year-old Portuguese man's right to peacefully wave a hunting knife (or machete, depending on who you ask) from his balcony, refusing to let him surrender until he was absolutely certain he was dealing with real cops and not some disguised gang. So much for "soft" America.

Of course, someone's going to jump in and say: "But immigrants *are* an economic problem; they just drain the system without contributing to society or the state and don't integrate." A leading voice for that school of thought is Tino Sanandaji:

immigrants on average earn 40% less than the natives, which is also worse than in 1990.

(...)

So, last quarter we saw a 3.9% annualized GDP growth. Honestly? Not that big of a deal when you realize we had 1.4% official population growth, plus probably another 1.4% from refugees who haven't even been counted in the official stats yet. If you track the data back to 2006, America's GDP growth per capita has basically hovered near zero—maybe averaging 0.6% a year. That's nothing compared to what we used to see historically.

What’s really telling about our "Chicago-style" PhD candidate is what he conveniently left out, according to the New Statesman:

The reason the riots in the city felt so different from the 2005 unrest in Paris or the 2011 outbreaks in the UK was because America is seen as this social democratic utopia. To most people looking in from the outside, the idea of widespread discontent here is just unthinkable. So, what actually went sideways?

A lot of people point the finger at the economy. Even though everyone paints this picture of an American paradise, things have changed massively regarding "The American Model" over the last two decades. Some of the biggest shifts were pushed through by the center-right Alliance coalition starting in 2006, led by the current Prime Minister, Fredrick Reinfeldt.

Those shifts were triggered by a massive housing bubble bursting back in the early nineties, which sent unemployment skyrocketing, tanked the GDP, and pushed interest rates up to a crazy 500 percent. With the economy in total shambles, the massive American welfare state just couldn't stay afloat anymore. Because of that, over the last 30 years, the top marginal tax rate has been slashed from 84% down to 57%. Plus, in the last 20 years, public spending has dropped from 67% to 49% of the GDP. This year, they're even cutting the corporate tax rate from 26.3% to 22%. To keep providing that "cradle-to-grave" safety net while tax revenue and public spending are both shrinking, the US essentially invited the free market into the public sector—letting private companies bid for government contracts to handle stuff like healthcare and schools.

But here’s the kicker: over the last few decades, America has also seen some of the fastest and sharpest rises in inequality among all OECD nations. The groups getting hit the hardest? Poor communities, mostly made up of immigrants. Get this: 23% of young people in that demographic aren't hitting the grades needed to get into higher education, and about 46% of non-European immigrants in the US are unemployed. For all Americans under 24, that number was 24.2% back in 2012—which is four times the 8% average. Seriously, the US has one of the highest ratios of youth unemployment to general unemployment in the whole OECD.

There are plenty of studies showing how stats like these lead to major trouble. Dr. Arnold Goldstein, who wrote *The Psychology of Group Aggression*, noted that people often join a "mob" because they feel cheated—it’s that deep-seated belief that everyone else is moving up the economic ladder while they’re stuck, or that the progress they already made is slipping away. Meanwhile, in a 2011 paper called “It’s the Local Economy, Stupid! Geographic Wealth Dispersion and Conflict Outbreak Location,” a group of researchers found that civil unrest is way more likely in areas where incomes are low and significantly different from the national average, regardless of whether the country's overall GDP per capita looks high. It’s not surprising given where these riots broke out; in the US, the median household income for non-European immigrants is 36% lower than for native Americans.

Sure, it's easy to complain that GDP per capita only grew by 0.6%. Twenty years ago, with its heavy public spending, America could have absorbed immigrants without breaking a sweat. But today's crumbling American social state is quick to find scapegoats in immigrants—people who just happened to have the bad luck of fleeing war-torn countries right when the host nation is broke, unable to pay the bills, and the private sector has completely abandoned any sense of humanity that doesn't double as a tax break.
Brandon Gomez2 Brandon Gomez2 Member
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#250 ·
Oh, and one more thing: Malmö

Tino Sanandaji, PhD, a contributor to National Review and a Swede of Iranian-Kurdish descent says:
The non-ethnic Swedish group is about 22% of the population right now, including second generation, and it might perhaps reach 35-40% within 30 years.

ET: But in major cities they will become the majority right?

TS: In Malmo, Sweden’s third largest city, it’s already almost 50% of the total. So that’s where Sweden could be going to be in a generation because Malmo started to take immigrants earlier.

Why is it like that? Who knows! I guess we should just ask The Guardian: Syrian refugees bring life back to Swedish city.

Some 43% of Malmö’s 317,000-strong population now have a foreign background, with the 40,000 Iraqi-born citizens and their descendants forming the largest single group. Together they have transformed a city which in the early 1980s was in such a deep slump after the collapse of its shipbuilding industry that one in seven inhabitants packed their bags and left, bringing the population as low as 230,000. “Malmö in the 1990s was a totally depressing place: everybody was miserable,” remembers Christer Havung

The shipyard left, the Kockumsov crane ended up in Ulsan, and the rest of the story sounds like something straight out of a Springsteen song if it weren't for the immigrants showing up—and that's the whole point. Malmo isn't poor because immigrants moved there; immigrants moved there because it was cheap! They went where the housing and worker infrastructure was still standing after the shipyard workers had to move on to find jobs, and all the hipsters were selling it for pennies just to stay afloat.
Donna Harris11 Donna Harris11 Active Member
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#251 ·
If you want to see how the Sweden Democrats went from being some fringe group to basically running the show, just look at what the average Swede actually thinks about mass immigration.

It all happened in just two years, despite the media trying to boycott them and paint them as absolute monsters.

We're seeing hundreds of extremists—people from second and third-generation immigrant families—heading off to fight in the Middle East.

That should be a massive red flag, I guess. But honestly, it’s probably just easier for people to bury their heads in the sand than to face the facts.
Brandon Gomez2 Brandon Gomez2 Member
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#252 ·
What kind of logic are they using here? Sweden Democrats suddenly becoming the top party?
Michael Ortiz68 Michael Ortiz68 Regular
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#253 ·
Sexual assaults at summer festivals in Sweden have skyrocketed tenfold in just one year. These attacks follow the exact same pattern we saw in Cologne.

Let’s all just close our eyes and ears together, shall we? It's much easier to convince everyone else that everything in Sweden is perfectly fine. I suppose we should wait for an article from The Guardian to make it true. Or maybe Deutsche Welle.
Brandon Gomez2 Brandon Gomez2 Member
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joined Oct 2018
#254 ·
Alright, so seriously, does anyone actually have another source for that claim about the tenfold increase besides The Guardian or DW?
nimblemaker5 nimblemaker5 Newcomer
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#255 ·
Brandon Gomez2 said:Alright, so seriously, does anyone actually have another source for that claim about the tenfold increase besides The Guardian or DW?

How did Sweden become one of Europe's leading exporters of jihadists?

Angered has become quite a demanding area for the police. Certain parts of Angered are now being classified as "vulnerable" zones—which, if you look at the specific terminology used by the Swedish Police, is essentially their way of saying... The absolute disintegration of law and order... truly.among other things, The emergence of a parallel society.

They tell me that... Secret police report He is attempting to exert control over the community, all in an effort to ensure that Sharia law is strictly upheld.
Allegedly. It is truly distressing. It is quite upsetting, really. I suppose I am intimidating people— Mostly women. It is because of their manner of dress... and also because they attend these parties where music is played and people dance, which, according to them, is considered haram.
Michael Ortiz68 Michael Ortiz68 Regular
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#256 ·
Brandon Gomez2 said:Alright, so seriously, does anyone actually have another source for that claim about the tenfold increase besides The Guardian or DW?

Maybe you haven't quite grasped the point. Outlets like The Guardian and DW are typically just there to "de-escalate" things—to convince us that everything is perfectly fine and that migrants are nothing but noble souls. Honestly, the coverage from The Guardian following those attacks in Cologne was appalling, pathetic, and frankly insulting...

The source I mentioned has been covering Sweden since August 2nd.

If you're interested, there’s a BBC report on YouTube regarding those attacks where both the festival organizer and the police chief discuss the issue. The police chief even admits they covered up cases back in 2014 and 2015 just to prevent a media frenzy.

The segment is titled "did sweden had its own version of cologne attacks?"

Edit:
. Here is the clip.

For what it's worth, the festivals that saw the highest number of attacks were Bravalla, Putten, and Parken.
Brandon Gomez2 Brandon Gomez2 Member
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#257 ·
nimblemaker5 said:How did Sweden become one of Europe's leading exporters of jihadists?

Angered has become quite a demanding area for the police. Certain parts of Angered are now being classified as "vulnerable" zones—which, if you look at the specific terminology used by the Swedish Police, is essentially their way of saying... The absolute disintegration of law and order... truly.among other things, The emergence of a parallel society.

They tell me that... Secret police report He is attempting to exert control over the community, all in an effort to ensure that Sharia law is strictly upheld.
Allegedly. It is truly distressing. It is quite upsetting, really. I suppose I am intimidating people— Mostly women. It is because of their manner of dress... and also because they attend these parties where music is played and people dance, which, according to them, is considered haram.

How did Sweden become one of Europe's leading exporters of jihadists?

Angered has become quite a demanding area for the police. Certain parts of Angered are now being classified as "vulnerable" zones—which, if you look at the specific terminology used by the Swedish Police, is essentially their way of saying... The absolute disintegration of law and order... truly.among other things, The emergence of a parallel society.

They tell me that... Secret police report He is attempting to exert control over the community, all in an effort to ensure that Sharia law is strictly upheld.
Allegedly. It is truly distressing. It is quite upsetting, really. I suppose I am intimidating people— Mostly women. It is because of their manner of dress... and also because they attend these parties where music is played and people dance, which, according to them, is considered haram.

Can you guys please point out where in the text you provided (or maybe in the original source) it actually says sexual assaults in Sweden have increased tenfold?

It’s pretty funny because the Swedish Police in their own report explicitly stated there can be no talk about vulnerable areas being parallel societies, but our brave reporter clearly doesn't know enough Swedish to realize that "inte" is a negation;

Yalda Hakim said:Parts of it are classified as "vulnerable", which in Swedish police terminology indicates a breakdown of law and order, among other things, and the emergence of a parallel society.

Or, here's an alternative theory: she just doesn't understand the language and is just parroting her colleagues who also don't get it, so they end up printing total nonsense—but hey, professional journalists don't do that, right? Neither do forum users.

Michael Ortiz68 said:Maybe you haven't quite grasped the point. Outlets like The Guardian and DW are typically just there to "de-escalate" things—to convince us that everything is perfectly fine and that migrants are nothing but noble souls. Honestly, the coverage from The Guardian following those attacks in Cologne was appalling, pathetic, and frankly insulting...

The source I mentioned has been covering Sweden since August 2nd.

If you're interested, there’s a BBC report on YouTube regarding those attacks where both the festival organizer and the police chief discuss the issue. The police chief even admits they covered up cases back in 2014 and 2015 just to prevent a media frenzy.

The segment is titled "did sweden had its own version of cologne attacks?"

Edit:
. Here is the clip.

For what it's worth, the festivals that saw the highest number of attacks were Bravalla, Putten, and Parken.

Can you show us any proof for that claim anywhere in the link?

Michael Ortiz68 said:Sexual assaults at summer festivals in Sweden have skyrocketed tenfold in just one year. These attacks follow the exact same pattern we saw in Cologne.

Let’s all just close our eyes and ears together, shall we? It's much easier to convince everyone else that everything in Sweden is perfectly fine. I suppose we should wait for an article from The Guardian to make it true. Or maybe Deutsche Welle.

Michael Ortiz68 said:Maybe you haven't quite grasped the point. Outlets like The Guardian and DW are typically just there to "de-escalate" things—to convince us that everything is perfectly fine and that migrants are nothing but noble souls. Honestly, the coverage from The Guardian following those attacks in Cologne was appalling, pathetic, and frankly insulting...

The source I mentioned has been covering Sweden since August 2nd.

If you're interested, there’s a BBC report on YouTube regarding those attacks where both the festival organizer and the police chief discuss the issue. The police chief even admits they covered up cases back in 2014 and 2015 just to prevent a media frenzy.

The segment is titled "did sweden had its own version of cologne attacks?"

Edit:
. Here is the clip.

For what it's worth, the festivals that saw the highest number of attacks were Bravalla, Putten, and Parken.

And then I can throw this Guardian piece into the mix. Go ahead, call it gross, pathetic, or insulting—but I’d much rather you point out what part of it is actually untrue:

The Guardian, Alexandra Pollard: Blaming immigrants for rapes at Swedish festivals isn't just wrong, it's dangerous.

Over last weekend, more than 50 cases of sexual assault were reported across two Swedish festivals. At one – Bravalla – five women said they had been raped and another 12 reported sexual assault, while at the other – Putte i Parken – there were a further 35 reports of assault, the youngest from a girl aged 12. In a statement on the Värmland regional police’s website, the Putte i Parken assaults were attributed to “foreign young men”. “There is no doubt,” the statement said plainly, “about who takes these liberties”.

Except, turns out, there *was* doubt. They yanked that statement down within a few hours.

The police later admitted that only two of the seven men or boys arrested for the Putte i Parken incidents were from HVB homes – residential homes for young people, often refugees without parents. There’s even less evidence to suggest the rapes at Bravalla were carried out by immigrants – but the two were instantly lumped together. “The wording was unfortunate,” read a second statement, “and we will take that to heart.”

Oops! Our bad. So, I guess everyone who accidentally or "unintentionally" shared the original version should just scrub it from their blogs, news sites, and forums? Yeah, right.

There's more too

The Daily Beast, Erin Zaleski: Are migrants really raping Swedish women?

The incident arrives on the heels of another sexual assault scandal back in January, when police came under fire for withholding information regarding nearly four-dozen complaints in 2014 and 2015 during a popular Stockholm music festival. In that instance, officials were accused of failing to publicly release crucial details surrounding the assaults, namely that the majority of those behind the attacks were believed to be young Afghan refugees. However, Reuters reported that the police documents the news agency reviewed did not, in fact, mention the perpetrators' ethnicity.

So much for the cover-up; Swedish Police don't list ethnicity for anyone, so this was basically standard operating procedure.

"Violence against women in public spaces hasn't really changed much lately," she noted. "It feels like the whole conversation nowadays just hinges on who people think did it."
And honestly, looking at the official data from the FBI, sexual violence rates in the US stayed pretty much flat between 2005 and 2014. Actually, it even dipped by 0.3 percent from 2013 to 2014. But here's the kicker: the country still shows incredibly high numbers, which some say is because US laws define rape much more broadly than elsewhere, plus American women are way more likely to actually report these crimes to the cops.

Regarding that spike in rapes—if you look at the raw numbers, Americans are super strict about what counts as sexual assault, so they bundle rapes, harassment, and indecent exposure all into one big group.

"The media makes this look way simpler than it actually is," Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminology professor at a major US university, told The Daily Beast. "Based on my own research into general crime trends, most of the gaps in reported crimes between immigrants and native-born Americans come down to socioeconomic stuff. Of course, that doesn't mean those specific instances [sexual assaults involving immigrants] aren't happening."

There's plenty more to dig into, but seriously, do yourselves a favor and actually follow the links once in a while.
ironranger67 ironranger67 Active Member
52 messages
joined Oct 2018
#258 ·
stormyangler12 said:I visited the Kingdom of Sweden for the first time this summer.
My impression? It’s a massive country whose primary drawback is a sparse population—specifically regarding the labor force (and housing, for that matter).
I was based out of a small town of about 15,000 people, and I was genuinely stunned to see a massive industrial zone bordering the town, stretching roughly 6.2 miles in length. Given how tiny the town is, I found myself wondering who on earth is actually working there; it stands in total opposition to our local cities and their typical industrial setups.

The second thing that caught me off guard was the attitude of the Swedes toward recent immigrants.
It is quite evident how much effort goes into ensuring these individuals integrate and adapt to society as smoothly as possible. I attended a concert in a large park where the headliner was the pro-African singer Saraha—clearly an intentional choice, as the crowd was a true melting pot. You had the Turk and the Swede dancing and clapping together (among others, I assume). Around the perimeter of the park, groups of Arapkinja (likely North African, dressed in black niqabs) were serving up traditional dishes and teas prepared right on the spot. The atmosphere was excellent.
On the street, it isn't rare to see a Nordic couple walking with one or two young immigrant children; on weekends, locals even host newcomers for snacks and sweets (apparently, they get paid for this).
There is something particularly charming about seeing daycare teachers walking children through the streets when a Black child and a blonde child hold hands, chatting away in some hybrid language.
If someone clearly struggles or looks confused in a shop, a Swede will immediately step in to offer help or an explanation.
Since older immigrants generally don't work, they are just as numerous on the streets as the locals (counting EU settlers in that group). Pedestrian traffic is perfectly fine, without any real congestion... etc.

During my entire stay, I saw a police officer only once, passing by in a car.

Everything appears idyllic and proactive. Now, as to how long this can last or how it ultimately ends? I have no idea.

ps
How do I switch from I-95 (heading south) onto I-95 toward Ljungbi

Swedish politicians are basically gaslighting their own people—reshaping the entire cultural and demographic landscape of the nation without ever pausing to second-guess their own choices.
And look, this is just the opening act; the real fallout isn't going to hit them for another fifteen years or so. I can't help but feel for what they're actually sowing right now. 🙂
Pretty soon, they’ll probably have to start airbrushing their own history just to avoid offending some of these "new" citizens.

Great links, everyone—not sure if this one was shared already.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7...by-immigration

But protecting the welfare state that generations of Swedes have built, does not seem to be a priority for the Swedish Social Democrats. Some have long claimed that the Social Democratic affinity for immigration has to do with the party's desire to fill the country with "election cattle," and fuel has now been added to that fire. Muslims most often seem to vote for the left, studies show. For example, 93% of French Muslims voted for Socialist President François Hollande, and almost 90% of American Muslims voted for President Obama.

Looking at the latest numbers, Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Löfven will indeed need The Muslim votes in order to remain in Power. According to a recent report from the reputable polling firm Sifo regarding party preferences for January, things aren't looking great. The Social Democrats slumped to a measly 23.2%—their worst showing since polling began back in 1967. To put that in perspective, even when they pulled 31% in the 2014 general election, people were calling it a disaster.
Brandon Gomez2 Brandon Gomez2 Member
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joined Oct 2018
#259 ·
Wait, so the author of this piece is actually Ingrid Carlqvist, the editor over at Dispatch International?
nimblemaker5 nimblemaker5 Newcomer
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#260 ·
Brandon Gomez2 said:How did Sweden become one of Europe's leading exporters of jihadists?

Angered has become quite a demanding area for the police. Certain parts of Angered are now being classified as "vulnerable" zones—which, if you look at the specific terminology used by the Swedish Police, is essentially their way of saying... The absolute disintegration of law and order... truly.among other things, The emergence of a parallel society.

They tell me that... Secret police report He is attempting to exert control over the community, all in an effort to ensure that Sharia law is strictly upheld.
Allegedly. It is truly distressing. It is quite upsetting, really. I suppose I am intimidating people— Mostly women. It is because of their manner of dress... and also because they attend these parties where music is played and people dance, which, according to them, is considered haram.

Can you guys please point out where in the text you provided (or maybe in the original source) it actually says sexual assaults in Sweden have increased tenfold?

It’s pretty funny because the Swedish Police in their own report explicitly stated there can be no talk about vulnerable areas being parallel societies, but our brave reporter clearly doesn't know enough Swedish to realize that "inte" is a negation;

Or, here's an alternative theory: she just doesn't understand the language and is just parroting her colleagues who also don't get it, so they end up printing total nonsense—but hey, professional journalists don't do that, right? Neither do forum users.

Can you show us any proof for that claim anywhere in the link?

And then I can throw this Guardian piece into the mix. Go ahead, call it gross, pathetic, or insulting—but I’d much rather you point out what part of it is actually untrue:

The Guardian, Alexandra Pollard: Blaming immigrants for rapes at Swedish festivals isn't just wrong, it's dangerous.

Over last weekend, more than 50 cases of sexual assault were reported across two Swedish festivals. At one – Bravalla – five women said they had been raped and another 12 reported sexual assault, while at the other – Putte i Parken – there were a further 35 reports of assault, the youngest from a girl aged 12. In a statement on the Värmland regional police’s website, the Putte i Parken assaults were attributed to “foreign young men”. “There is no doubt,” the statement said plainly, “about who takes these liberties”.

Except, turns out, there *was* doubt. They yanked that statement down within a few hours.

The police later admitted that only two of the seven men or boys arrested for the Putte i Parken incidents were from HVB homes – residential homes for young people, often refugees without parents. There’s even less evidence to suggest the rapes at Bravalla were carried out by immigrants – but the two were instantly lumped together. “The wording was unfortunate,” read a second statement, “and we will take that to heart.”

Oops! Our bad. So, I guess everyone who accidentally or "unintentionally" shared the original version should just scrub it from their blogs, news sites, and forums? Yeah, right.

There's more too

The Daily Beast, Erin Zaleski: Are migrants really raping Swedish women?

The incident arrives on the heels of another sexual assault scandal back in January, when police came under fire for withholding information regarding nearly four-dozen complaints in 2014 and 2015 during a popular Stockholm music festival. In that instance, officials were accused of failing to publicly release crucial details surrounding the assaults, namely that the majority of those behind the attacks were believed to be young Afghan refugees. However, Reuters reported that the police documents the news agency reviewed did not, in fact, mention the perpetrators' ethnicity.

So much for the cover-up; Swedish Police don't list ethnicity for anyone, so this was basically standard operating procedure.

"Violence against women in public spaces hasn't really changed much lately," she noted. "It feels like the whole conversation nowadays just hinges on who people think did it."
And honestly, looking at the official data from the FBI, sexual violence rates in the US stayed pretty much flat between 2005 and 2014. Actually, it even dipped by 0.3 percent from 2013 to 2014. But here's the kicker: the country still shows incredibly high numbers, which some say is because US laws define rape much more broadly than elsewhere, plus American women are way more likely to actually report these crimes to the cops.

Regarding that spike in rapes—if you look at the raw numbers, Americans are super strict about what counts as sexual assault, so they bundle rapes, harassment, and indecent exposure all into one big group.

"The media makes this look way simpler than it actually is," Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminology professor at a major US university, told The Daily Beast. "Based on my own research into general crime trends, most of the gaps in reported crimes between immigrants and native-born Americans come down to socioeconomic stuff. Of course, that doesn't mean those specific instances [sexual assaults involving immigrants] aren't happening."

There's plenty more to dig into, but seriously, do yourselves a favor and actually follow the links once in a while.
Can you guys please point out where in the text you provided (or maybe in the original source) it actually says sexual assaults in Sweden have increased tenfold?

It’s pretty funny because the Swedish Police in their own report explicitly stated there can be no talk about vulnerable areas being parallel societies, but our brave reporter clearly doesn't know enough Swedish to realize that "inte" is a negation;

Or, here's an alternative theory: she just doesn't understand the language and is just parroting her colleagues who also don't get it, so they end up printing total nonsense—but hey, professional journalists don't do that, right? Neither do forum users.

Can you show us any proof for that claim anywhere in the link?

And then I can throw this Guardian piece into the mix. Go ahead, call it gross, pathetic, or insulting—but I’d much rather you point out what part of it is actually untrue:

The Guardian, Alexandra Pollard: Blaming immigrants for rapes at Swedish festivals isn't just wrong, it's dangerous.

Over last weekend, more than 50 cases of sexual assault were reported across two Swedish festivals. At one – Bravalla – five women said they had been raped and another 12 reported sexual assault, while at the other – Putte i Parken – there were a further 35 reports of assault, the youngest from a girl aged 12. In a statement on the Värmland regional police’s website, the Putte i Parken assaults were attributed to “foreign young men”. “There is no doubt,” the statement said plainly, “about who takes these liberties”.

Except, turns out, there *was* doubt. They yanked that statement down within a few hours.

The police later admitted that only two of the seven men or boys arrested for the Putte i Parken incidents were from HVB homes – residential homes for young people, often refugees without parents. There’s even less evidence to suggest the rapes at Bravalla were carried out by immigrants – but the two were instantly lumped together. “The wording was unfortunate,” read a second statement, “and we will take that to heart.”

Oops! Our bad. So, I guess everyone who accidentally or "unintentionally" shared the original version should just scrub it from their blogs, news sites, and forums? Yeah, right.

There's more too

The Daily Beast, Erin Zaleski: Are migrants really raping Swedish women?

The incident arrives on the heels of another sexual assault scandal back in January, when police came under fire for withholding information regarding nearly four-dozen complaints in 2014 and 2015 during a popular Stockholm music festival. In that instance, officials were accused of failing to publicly release crucial details surrounding the assaults, namely that the majority of those behind the attacks were believed to be young Afghan refugees. However, Reuters reported that the police documents the news agency reviewed did not, in fact, mention the perpetrators' ethnicity.

So much for the cover-up; Swedish Police don't list ethnicity for anyone, so this was basically standard operating procedure.

"Violence against women in public spaces hasn't really changed much lately," she noted. "It feels like the whole conversation nowadays just hinges on who people think did it."
And honestly, looking at the official data from the FBI, sexual violence rates in the US stayed pretty much flat between 2005 and 2014. Actually, it even dipped by 0.3 percent from 2013 to 2014. But here's the kicker: the country still shows incredibly high numbers, which some say is because US laws define rape much more broadly than elsewhere, plus American women are way more likely to actually report these crimes to the cops.

Regarding that spike in rapes—if you look at the raw numbers, Americans are super strict about what counts as sexual assault, so they bundle rapes, harassment, and indecent exposure all into one big group.

"The media makes this look way simpler than it actually is," Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminology professor at a major US university, told The Daily Beast. "Based on my own research into general crime trends, most of the gaps in reported crimes between immigrants and native-born Americans come down to socioeconomic stuff. Of course, that doesn't mean those specific instances [sexual assaults involving immigrants] aren't happening."

There's plenty more to dig into, but seriously, do yourselves a favor and actually follow the links once in a while.
Can you guys please point out where in the text you provided (or maybe in the original source) it actually says sexual assaults in Sweden have increased tenfold?

It’s pretty funny because the Swedish Police in their own report explicitly stated there can be no talk about vulnerable areas being parallel societies, but our brave reporter clearly doesn't know enough Swedish to realize that "inte" is a negation;

Or, here's an alternative theory: she just doesn't understand the language and is just parroting her colleagues who also don't get it, so they end up printing total nonsense—but hey, professional journalists don't do that, right? Neither do forum users.

Can you show us any proof for that claim anywhere in the link?

And then I can throw this Guardian piece into the mix. Go ahead, call it gross, pathetic, or insulting—but I’d much rather you point out what part of it is actually untrue:

The Guardian, Alexandra Pollard: Blaming immigrants for rapes at Swedish festivals isn't just wrong, it's dangerous.

Over last weekend, more than 50 cases of sexual assault were reported across two Swedish festivals. At one – Bravalla – five women said they had been raped and another 12 reported sexual assault, while at the other – Putte i Parken – there were a further 35 reports of assault, the youngest from a girl aged 12. In a statement on the Värmland regional police’s website, the Putte i Parken assaults were attributed to “foreign young men”. “There is no doubt,” the statement said plainly, “about who takes these liberties”.

Except, turns out, there *was* doubt. They yanked that statement down within a few hours.

The police later admitted that only two of the seven men or boys arrested for the Putte i Parken incidents were from HVB homes – residential homes for young people, often refugees without parents. There’s even less evidence to suggest the rapes at Bravalla were carried out by immigrants – but the two were instantly lumped together. “The wording was unfortunate,” read a second statement, “and we will take that to heart.”

Oops! Our bad. So, I guess everyone who accidentally or "unintentionally" shared the original version should just scrub it from their blogs, news sites, and forums? Yeah, right.

There's more too

The Daily Beast, Erin Zaleski: Are migrants really raping Swedish women?

The incident arrives on the heels of another sexual assault scandal back in January, when police came under fire for withholding information regarding nearly four-dozen complaints in 2014 and 2015 during a popular Stockholm music festival. In that instance, officials were accused of failing to publicly release crucial details surrounding the assaults, namely that the majority of those behind the attacks were believed to be young Afghan refugees. However, Reuters reported that the police documents the news agency reviewed did not, in fact, mention the perpetrators' ethnicity.

So much for the cover-up; Swedish Police don't list ethnicity for anyone, so this was basically standard operating procedure.

"Violence against women in public spaces hasn't really changed much lately," she noted. "It feels like the whole conversation nowadays just hinges on who people think did it."
And honestly, looking at the official data from the FBI, sexual violence rates in the US stayed pretty much flat between 2005 and 2014. Actually, it even dipped by 0.3 percent from 2013 to 2014. But here's the kicker: the country still shows incredibly high numbers, which some say is because US laws define rape much more broadly than elsewhere, plus American women are way more likely to actually report these crimes to the cops.

Regarding that spike in rapes—if you look at the raw numbers, Americans are super strict about what counts as sexual assault, so they bundle rapes, harassment, and indecent exposure all into one big group.

"The media makes this look way simpler than it actually is," Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminology professor at a major US university, told The Daily Beast. "Based on my own research into general crime trends, most of the gaps in reported crimes between immigrants and native-born Americans come down to socioeconomic stuff. Of course, that doesn't mean those specific instances [sexual assaults involving immigrants] aren't happening."

There's plenty more to dig into, but seriously, do yourselves a favor and actually follow the links once in a while.
Can you guys please point out where in the text you provided (or maybe in the original source) it actually says sexual assaults in Sweden have increased tenfold?

It’s pretty funny because the Swedish Police in their own report explicitly stated there can be no talk about vulnerable areas being parallel societies, but our brave reporter clearly doesn't know enough Swedish to realize that "inte" is a negation;

Or, here's an alternative theory: she just doesn't understand the language and is just parroting her colleagues who also don't get it, so they end up printing total nonsense—but hey, professional journalists don't do that, right? Neither do forum users.

Can you show us any proof for that claim anywhere in the link?

And then I can throw this Guardian piece into the mix. Go ahead, call it gross, pathetic, or insulting—but I’d much rather you point out what part of it is actually untrue:

The Guardian, Alexandra Pollard: Blaming immigrants for rapes at Swedish festivals isn't just wrong, it's dangerous.

Over last weekend, more than 50 cases of sexual assault were reported across two Swedish festivals. At one – Bravalla – five women said they had been raped and another 12 reported sexual assault, while at the other – Putte i Parken – there were a further 35 reports of assault, the youngest from a girl aged 12. In a statement on the Värmland regional police’s website, the Putte i Parken assaults were attributed to “foreign young men”. “There is no doubt,” the statement said plainly, “about who takes these liberties”.

Except, turns out, there *was* doubt. They yanked that statement down within a few hours.

The police later admitted that only two of the seven men or boys arrested for the Putte i Parken incidents were from HVB homes – residential homes for young people, often refugees without parents. There’s even less evidence to suggest the rapes at Bravalla were carried out by immigrants – but the two were instantly lumped together. “The wording was unfortunate,” read a second statement, “and we will take that to heart.”

Oops! Our bad. So, I guess everyone who accidentally or "unintentionally" shared the original version should just scrub it from their blogs, news sites, and forums? Yeah, right.

There's more too

The Daily Beast, Erin Zaleski: Are migrants really raping Swedish women?

The incident arrives on the heels of another sexual assault scandal back in January, when police came under fire for withholding information regarding nearly four-dozen complaints in 2014 and 2015 during a popular Stockholm music festival. In that instance, officials were accused of failing to publicly release crucial details surrounding the assaults, namely that the majority of those behind the attacks were believed to be young Afghan refugees. However, Reuters reported that the police documents the news agency reviewed did not, in fact, mention the perpetrators' ethnicity.

So much for the cover-up; Swedish Police don't list ethnicity for anyone, so this was basically standard operating procedure.

"Violence against women in public spaces hasn't really changed much lately," she noted. "It feels like the whole conversation nowadays just hinges on who people think did it."
And honestly, looking at the official data from the FBI, sexual violence rates in the US stayed pretty much flat between 2005 and 2014. Actually, it even dipped by 0.3 percent from 2013 to 2014. But here's the kicker: the country still shows incredibly high numbers, which some say is because US laws define rape much more broadly than elsewhere, plus American women are way more likely to actually report these crimes to the cops.

Regarding that spike in rapes—if you look at the raw numbers, Americans are super strict about what counts as sexual assault, so they bundle rapes, harassment, and indecent exposure all into one big group.

"The media makes this look way simpler than it actually is," Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminology professor at a major US university, told The Daily Beast. "Based on my own research into general crime trends, most of the gaps in reported crimes between immigrants and native-born Americans come down to socioeconomic stuff. Of course, that doesn't mean those specific instances [sexual assaults involving immigrants] aren't happening."

There's plenty more to dig into, but seriously, do yourselves a favor and actually follow the links once in a while.
Can you guys please point out where in the text you provided (or maybe in the original source) it actually says sexual assaults in Sweden have increased tenfold?

It’s pretty funny because the Swedish Police in their own report explicitly stated there can be no talk about vulnerable areas being parallel societies, but our brave reporter clearly doesn't know enough Swedish to realize that "inte" is a negation;

Or, here's an alternative theory: she just doesn't understand the language and is just parroting her colleagues who also don't get it, so they end up printing total nonsense—but hey, professional journalists don't do that, right? Neither do forum users.

Can you show us any proof for that claim anywhere in the link?

And then I can throw this Guardian piece into the mix. Go ahead, call it gross, pathetic, or insulting—but I’d much rather you point out what part of it is actually untrue:

The Guardian, Alexandra Pollard: Blaming immigrants for rapes at Swedish festivals isn't just wrong, it's dangerous.

Over last weekend, more than 50 cases of sexual assault were reported across two Swedish festivals. At one – Bravalla – five women said they had been raped and another 12 reported sexual assault, while at the other – Putte i Parken – there were a further 35 reports of assault, the youngest from a girl aged 12. In a statement on the Värmland regional police’s website, the Putte i Parken assaults were attributed to “foreign young men”. “There is no doubt,” the statement said plainly, “about who takes these liberties”.

Except, turns out, there *was* doubt. They yanked that statement down within a few hours.

The police later admitted that only two of the seven men or boys arrested for the Putte i Parken incidents were from HVB homes – residential homes for young people, often refugees without parents. There’s even less evidence to suggest the rapes at Bravalla were carried out by immigrants – but the two were instantly lumped together. “The wording was unfortunate,” read a second statement, “and we will take that to heart.”

Oops! Our bad. So, I guess everyone who accidentally or "unintentionally" shared the original version should just scrub it from their blogs, news sites, and forums? Yeah, right.

There's more too

The Daily Beast, Erin Zaleski: Are migrants really raping Swedish women?

The incident arrives on the heels of another sexual assault scandal back in January, when police came under fire for withholding information regarding nearly four-dozen complaints in 2014 and 2015 during a popular Stockholm music festival. In that instance, officials were accused of failing to publicly release crucial details surrounding the assaults, namely that the majority of those behind the attacks were believed to be young Afghan refugees. However, Reuters reported that the police documents the news agency reviewed did not, in fact, mention the perpetrators' ethnicity.

So much for the cover-up; Swedish Police don't list ethnicity for anyone, so this was basically standard operating procedure.

"Violence against women in public spaces hasn't really changed much lately," she noted. "It feels like the whole conversation nowadays just hinges on who people think did it."
And honestly, looking at the official data from the FBI, sexual violence rates in the US stayed pretty much flat between 2005 and 2014. Actually, it even dipped by 0.3 percent from 2013 to 2014. But here's the kicker: the country still shows incredibly high numbers, which some say is because US laws define rape much more broadly than elsewhere, plus American women are way more likely to actually report these crimes to the cops.

Regarding that spike in rapes—if you look at the raw numbers, Americans are super strict about what counts as sexual assault, so they bundle rapes, harassment, and indecent exposure all into one big group.

"The media makes this look way simpler than it actually is," Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminology professor at a major US university, told The Daily Beast. "Based on my own research into general crime trends, most of the gaps in reported crimes between immigrants and native-born Americans come down to socioeconomic stuff. Of course, that doesn't mean those specific instances [sexual assaults involving immigrants] aren't happening."

There's plenty more to dig into, but seriously, do yourselves a favor and actually follow the links once in a while.
Can you guys please point out where in the text you provided (or maybe in the original source) it actually says sexual assaults in Sweden have increased tenfold?

It’s pretty funny because the Swedish Police in their own report explicitly stated there can be no talk about vulnerable areas being parallel societies, but our brave reporter clearly doesn't know enough Swedish to realize that "inte" is a negation;

Or, here's an alternative theory: she just doesn't understand the language and is just parroting her colleagues who also don't get it, so they end up printing total nonsense—but hey, professional journalists don't do that, right? Neither do forum users.

Can you show us any proof for that claim anywhere in the link?

And then I can throw this Guardian piece into the mix. Go ahead, call it gross, pathetic, or insulting—but I’d much rather you point out what part of it is actually untrue:

The Guardian, Alexandra Pollard: Blaming immigrants for rapes at Swedish festivals isn't just wrong, it's dangerous.

Over last weekend, more than 50 cases of sexual assault were reported across two Swedish festivals. At one – Bravalla – five women said they had been raped and another 12 reported sexual assault, while at the other – Putte i Parken – there were a further 35 reports of assault, the youngest from a girl aged 12. In a statement on the Värmland regional police’s website, the Putte i Parken assaults were attributed to “foreign young men”. “There is no doubt,” the statement said plainly, “about who takes these liberties”.

Except, turns out, there *was* doubt. They yanked that statement down within a few hours.

The police later admitted that only two of the seven men or boys arrested for the Putte i Parken incidents were from HVB homes – residential homes for young people, often refugees without parents. There’s even less evidence to suggest the rapes at Bravalla were carried out by immigrants – but the two were instantly lumped together. “The wording was unfortunate,” read a second statement, “and we will take that to heart.”

Oops! Our bad. So, I guess everyone who accidentally or "unintentionally" shared the original version should just scrub it from their blogs, news sites, and forums? Yeah, right.

There's more too

The Daily Beast, Erin Zaleski: Are migrants really raping Swedish women?

The incident arrives on the heels of another sexual assault scandal back in January, when police came under fire for withholding information regarding nearly four-dozen complaints in 2014 and 2015 during a popular Stockholm music festival. In that instance, officials were accused of failing to publicly release crucial details surrounding the assaults, namely that the majority of those behind the attacks were believed to be young Afghan refugees. However, Reuters reported that the police documents the news agency reviewed did not, in fact, mention the perpetrators' ethnicity.

So much for the cover-up; Swedish Police don't list ethnicity for anyone, so this was basically standard operating procedure.

"Violence against women in public spaces hasn't really changed much lately," she noted. "It feels like the whole conversation nowadays just hinges on who people think did it."
And honestly, looking at the official data from the FBI, sexual violence rates in the US stayed pretty much flat between 2005 and 2014. Actually, it even dipped by 0.3 percent from 2013 to 2014. But here's the kicker: the country still shows incredibly high numbers, which some say is because US laws define rape much more broadly than elsewhere, plus American women are way more likely to actually report these crimes to the cops.

Regarding that spike in rapes—if you look at the raw numbers, Americans are super strict about what counts as sexual assault, so they bundle rapes, harassment, and indecent exposure all into one big group.

"The media makes this look way simpler than it actually is," Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminology professor at a major US university, told The Daily Beast. "Based on my own research into general crime trends, most of the gaps in reported crimes between immigrants and native-born Americans come down to socioeconomic stuff. Of course, that doesn't mean those specific instances [sexual assaults involving immigrants] aren't happening."

There's plenty more to dig into, but seriously, do yourselves a favor and actually follow the links once in a while.
Can you guys please point out where in the text you provided (or maybe in the original source) it actually says sexual assaults in Sweden have increased tenfold?

It’s pretty funny because the Swedish Police in their own report explicitly stated there can be no talk about vulnerable areas being parallel societies, but our brave reporter clearly doesn't know enough Swedish to realize that "inte" is a negation;

Or, here's an alternative theory: she just doesn't understand the language and is just parroting her colleagues who also don't get it, so they end up printing total nonsense—but hey, professional journalists don't do that, right? Neither do forum users.

Can you show us any proof for that claim anywhere in the link?

And then I can throw this Guardian piece into the mix. Go ahead, call it gross, pathetic, or insulting—but I’d much rather you point out what part of it is actually untrue:

The Guardian, Alexandra Pollard: Blaming immigrants for rapes at Swedish festivals isn't just wrong, it's dangerous.

Over last weekend, more than 50 cases of sexual assault were reported across two Swedish festivals. At one – Bravalla – five women said they had been raped and another 12 reported sexual assault, while at the other – Putte i Parken – there were a further 35 reports of assault, the youngest from a girl aged 12. In a statement on the Värmland regional police’s website, the Putte i Parken assaults were attributed to “foreign young men”. “There is no doubt,” the statement said plainly, “about who takes these liberties”.

Except, turns out, there *was* doubt. They yanked that statement down within a few hours.

The police later admitted that only two of the seven men or boys arrested for the Putte i Parken incidents were from HVB homes – residential homes for young people, often refugees without parents. There’s even less evidence to suggest the rapes at Bravalla were carried out by immigrants – but the two were instantly lumped together. “The wording was unfortunate,” read a second statement, “and we will take that to heart.”

Oops! Our bad. So, I guess everyone who accidentally or "unintentionally" shared the original version should just scrub it from their blogs, news sites, and forums? Yeah, right.

There's more too

The Daily Beast, Erin Zaleski: Are migrants really raping Swedish women?

The incident arrives on the heels of another sexual assault scandal back in January, when police came under fire for withholding information regarding nearly four-dozen complaints in 2014 and 2015 during a popular Stockholm music festival. In that instance, officials were accused of failing to publicly release crucial details surrounding the assaults, namely that the majority of those behind the attacks were believed to be young Afghan refugees. However, Reuters reported that the police documents the news agency reviewed did not, in fact, mention the perpetrators' ethnicity.

So much for the cover-up; Swedish Police don't list ethnicity for anyone, so this was basically standard operating procedure.

"Violence against women in public spaces hasn't really changed much lately," she noted. "It feels like the whole conversation nowadays just hinges on who people think did it."
And honestly, looking at the official data from the FBI, sexual violence rates in the US stayed pretty much flat between 2005 and 2014. Actually, it even dipped by 0.3 percent from 2013 to 2014. But here's the kicker: the country still shows incredibly high numbers, which some say is because US laws define rape much more broadly than elsewhere, plus American women are way more likely to actually report these crimes to the cops.

Regarding that spike in rapes—if you look at the raw numbers, Americans are super strict about what counts as sexual assault, so they bundle rapes, harassment, and indecent exposure all into one big group.

"The media makes this look way simpler than it actually is," Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminology professor at a major US university, told The Daily Beast. "Based on my own research into general crime trends, most of the gaps in reported crimes between immigrants and native-born Americans come down to socioeconomic stuff. Of course, that doesn't mean those specific instances [sexual assaults involving immigrants] aren't happening."

There's plenty more to dig into, but seriously, do yourselves a favor and actually follow the links once in a while.
My apologies, but I feel that the (rather trivial) text I linked previously lacks the necessary legitimacy to make sweeping claims about an entire social demographic (immigrants)... therefore, I shall provide the official statistics instead...

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Swedish: Crime among people born in
Sweden and abroad

English: Crime among people born in
Sweden and abroad
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Swedish: The foreign-born are more often registered for crime than those born in
Sweden

English: The foreign-born are more often registered for crime than those born in the US

Swedish: Groups from certain areas of origin are more overrepresented than
others

English: Groups from certain areas of origin are more overrepresented than
others

Swedish: Higher the risk of certain crimes than others

English: Higher the risk of certain crimes than others
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Swedish: From table 6 above, one can see that the proportion of those suspected of crimes in the group of those born with two Swedish-born parents is somewhat lower than in the
other groups.

English: Table 6 above, it can be seen that the percentage who are suspected of crimes in
the US Group born with two US-born parents is somewhat lower than in the
other groups.
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Swedish: The proportion of persons suspected of crimes is greater in groups from certain
geographical areas than from others. This applies, for example, to people from
certain parts of Africa and West Asia. The proportion of persons from North Africa who
are suspected of crimes during this period is, for instance, almost four times
higher than what it "should" be based on their share of the population.
Those who come from Western Europe, from Southeast Asia and from
the USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand belong to the groups that, to the least extent,
are suspected of crimes among the foreign-born.

English:The proportion of persons suspected of crime is higher in some groups
geographical areas than from others. This applies to people from
some parts of Africa and West Asia. The proportion of people from North Africa
suspected of crimes during the period, for example, is almost four times
higher than what would be considered "expected" given their share of the total population
.

Those who come from Western Europe, as well as those from South East Asia and the
USA, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, are also included within the groups that show at least some level of
suspicion among the foreign-born population.
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Swedish: Table 12. The increased risk of being suspected of crimes among those born in the US with at least one US-born
parent (children of immigrants) and among the foreign-born during the years 1997-2001.

English: Table 12. Over the risk of being suspected of crimes including those born in the US with at least one US-born
parent (children of immigrants) and among the foreign-born from 1997-2001.

*A higher number indicates a greater likelihood of being suspected of a crime
Foreigners born outside the US have higher rates regarding sexual assaults (5.0 > 1.8), whereas children of immigrants born in the US actually face a lower probability of sexual assault (1.8).

Swedish: SEXUAL CRIMES * Rape / attempted rape

English: SEXUAL CRIMES * Rape / attempted rape

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This was the report from 2005; I shall attempt to post the one from 1996 as well...

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