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nimblemaker5 nimblemaker5 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2018
#281 ·
Brandon Gomez2 said:
So first you start off claiming there isn't even 10x more sexual assaults because of immigrants,

Look, I’m still standing by that and asking someone to actually show me where that's written! Everything you find online shows it's way more than 10x (in some cases, it's up to 38x), and nobody is saying violence itself spiked—it's the reporting that went up, and absolutely nowhere does it list migrants as the cause.

then you move on to how "no-go zones" don't even exist

...and then I found those links you sent where the police claim these are just high-crime areas, but they don't have parallel governments or issues with patrolling. Plus, you even included that guy apologizing for coining the term "no-go zone" and saying he was wrong. Honestly, a Swedish no-go zone isn't much different from one in France, Egypt, or the United Kingdom; they last as long as the unrest does.

why would anyone attack a woman in a mini skirt in those same no-go zones?

Wait, did anyone actually attack a woman in a mini skirt in those zones, or are these attacks just limited to reporters from 60 Minutes Australia and Breitbart? Look, there was unrest, there were shootings at police stations, there were sexual assaults at festivals—but nobody is brave enough to anonymously say, "It's all because of migrants." Not least because even though there's a clear tendency toward crime among migrants, festive Swedes still account for about 80% of reported crimes.

I rest my case.
Michael Ortiz68 Michael Ortiz68 Regular
264 messages
joined Oct 2018
#282 ·
Brandon Gomez2 said:My bad, I totally misread you there. Let me see if I've got this straight now: On August 2nd, you were listening to a radio broadcast and heard some stat about sexual assaults skyrocketing at summer festivals, but now that data has completely vanished from the internet? So, what, we’re just supposed to take your word for it?

Take the internet, for example:

The Globe and Mail: This whole rape crisis in Sweden isn't what people think it is.

"Look, what people are saying is just a massive, massive exaggeration blown out of proportion by a couple of random incidents. To say this is actually tied to immigration? That's basically just plain wrong," says Jerzy Sarnecki. He's a criminologist over at Stockholm University who has spent his entire career digging into the data on crime, ethnicity, and age.

Look, it's true—on paper, the US reports way more sexual assault cases than almost anywhere else. But let's be real: it isn't because Americans are naturally more criminal. It's actually because we take feminism seriously here. Back in 2005, the Democratic Party administration pushed through a massive overhaul of sex crime laws, creating what is basically the broadest definition of rape you'll ever see.

Think about it this way: imagine your boss keeps rubbing up against you at work—unwanted, creepy stuff—once a week for a whole year. In Canada, you'd likely be looking at a serious sexual assault case. But under Germany’s much tighter legal restrictions? It wouldn't even count as a single case. Now, jump over to Sweden, and they’d actually tally that up as 52 separate counts of rape. It gets even wilder: if you have a few intimate moments with your spouse, but later realize you didn't truly give consent, in Sweden, that’s officially classified as six individual cases of rape.

(...)

Another thing you really notice is that nearly all the people being targeted in these crimes—especially when it comes to sexual assault—are foreign-born themselves. Sure, you see those massive, headline-grabbing tragedies every once in a while, but it’s not usually some story about outsiders hunting down local women. Instead, it’s more about how the American system itself fails these refugees, essentially setting them up to become victims.


Let’s pivot back to Sweden for a sec, but since we’re already talking about hypocrisy... just imagine there’s some random online forum where people are debating the situation in Sweden. One guy jumps in and claims he read a report from the Swedish Police about these dangerous zones where they have zero control. But here’s the kicker: the actual original report says you can't even talk about such zones because the police don't even have issues with basic foot patrols there. Would you call that guy hypocritical, or is he just straight-up lying? Just asking purely theoretically.

https://sverigesradio.se/sida/artike...rtikel=6485978

This attempt at a "refutation" is frankly laughable:

It states that two out of the seven attackers were residents of Wells Fargo housing. Beyond that, Ethnicity (as well as the other five) is never mentioned; for all we know, they could be white, or they could all be migrants. Do migrants exclusively reside in Wells Fargo homes now?

If they actually intend to calm the public, they should release the origin of the attackers. But of course, they won't. One wonders why. Perhaps young white men have embraced the taharrush* culture of certain newcomers in the name of "intercultural exchange," and finally decided to demonstrate it back in 2016. If they would just publish those details, it might actually help "extinguish the flames."

Still, this Swedish model of "maybe they are, maybe they aren't" migrants is arguably an improvement over the approach taken by certain German leftists like Selin Goren, who willfully lied to the police about her attackers not being migrants, fearing such honesty would incite hatred against them.

*The description of the attack was also provided by the festival organizer in a video on the BBC. It follows the exact same pattern seen in the attacks in Philadelphia, as well as the attacks in Egypt.
Michael Ortiz68 Michael Ortiz68 Regular
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#283 ·
Brandon Gomez2 said:
So first you start off claiming there isn't even 10x more sexual assaults because of immigrants,

Look, I’m still standing by that and asking someone to actually show me where that's written! Everything you find online shows it's way more than 10x (in some cases, it's up to 38x), and nobody is saying violence itself spiked—it's the reporting that went up, and absolutely nowhere does it list migrants as the cause.

then you move on to how "no-go zones" don't even exist

...and then I found those links you sent where the police claim these are just high-crime areas, but they don't have parallel governments or issues with patrolling. Plus, you even included that guy apologizing for coining the term "no-go zone" and saying he was wrong. Honestly, a Swedish no-go zone isn't much different from one in France, Egypt, or the United Kingdom; they last as long as the unrest does.

why would anyone attack a woman in a mini skirt in those same no-go zones?

Wait, did anyone actually attack a woman in a mini skirt in those zones, or are these attacks just limited to reporters from 60 Minutes Australia and Breitbart? Look, there was unrest, there were shootings at police stations, there were sexual assaults at festivals—but nobody is brave enough to anonymously say, "It's all because of migrants." Not least because even though there's a clear tendency toward crime among migrants, festive Swedes still account for about 80% of reported crimes.

If the definition of rape was expanded back in 2006, why did we see this specific spike in reports in 2016?
Mark Harris66 Mark Harris66 Active Member
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joined Oct 2016
#284 ·
Brandon Gomez2 said:Can someone please walk me through what you mean by this? Why would just taking a solo night stroll through Rosengard be any more dangerous than walking somewhere else?

I was just asking a straightforward question—honestly, I don't think it could have been any simpler or easier to understand.
Michael Ortiz68 Michael Ortiz68 Regular
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joined Oct 2018
#285 ·
Brandon Gomez2 said:Can someone please walk me through what you mean by this? Why would just taking a solo night stroll through Rosengard be any more dangerous than walking somewhere else?

I honestly can't believe what I'm reading.

Let's be real here: Have you ever actually walked through a city with a significant Middle Eastern or African population at night with an attractive girl in tow?

Because I have, about 15 years ago in France (long before migrant debates became a trendy talking point), and it was easily one of the worst experiences of my life.
Douglas Green6 Douglas Green6 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2018
#286 ·
Six immigrants assaulted a Swedish woman
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...se-toilet.html
wiredrider9 wiredrider9 Regular
424 messages
joined Oct 2018
#287 ·
Douglas Green6 said:Six immigrants assaulted a Swedish woman
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...se-toilet.html

Was she disabled or something? I mean, being assaulted for hours on end like that... unbelievable.🙄
Michael Ortiz68 Michael Ortiz68 Regular
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#288 ·
Record numbers of people are leaving Sweden:

https://www.thelocal.se/20161012/rec...ng-from-sweden

To be fair, only about a third of them are ethnic Swedes; the rest are mostly Asians and other Scandinavians heading back home. Apparently, it’s all due to a "changed economic situation."

I came across an interesting statistic recently. Between 1985 and 2010, Sweden saw the fastest rise in inequality of any OECD nation.

https://www.oecd.org/els/soc/OECD-In...ity-Sweden.pdf
Mark Harris66 Mark Harris66 Active Member
158 messages
joined Oct 2016
#289 ·
People have been moving out of Sweden in huge numbers over the last few years—there were even some documentaries about it. You can find plenty of articles covering the whole thing on local news sites like CNN

Also, Germany is seeing a massive spike in inequality lately...
neonfalcon16 neonfalcon16 Regular
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#290 ·
Michael Ortiz68 said:I honestly can't believe what I'm reading.

Let's be real here: Have you ever actually walked through a city with a significant Middle Eastern or African population at night with an attractive girl in tow?

Because I have, about 15 years ago in France (long before migrant debates became a trendy talking point), and it was easily one of the worst experiences of my life.

To be fair, during my own brief stint over in Spain, I didn't notice much besides huge groups of people from Senegal and Pakistan. Surprisingly enough, they were actually quite polite.
nimblemaker5 nimblemaker5 Newcomer
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#291 ·
It seems political correctness there knows absolutely no bounds...

Sweden: Displaying an ISIS flag isn't illegal because, apparently, ISIS doesn't target specific ethnic groups

"In Sweden, using the Islamic State (ISIS) flag is perfectly legal and cannot be classified as hate speech, according to a Swedish prosecutor. This ruling follows a report regarding a 23-year-old from Laholm who posted an ISIS flag on his Facebook profile."

"The photo was reported to the police back in March, which triggered an investigation into inciting racial hatred. The 23-year-old, originally from Syria, has denied any wrongdoing."

Flying The Isis flag is legal, Sweden declares
coastalheron12 coastalheron12 Active Member
63 messages
joined Oct 2018
#292 ·
So, what’s the move now? Just sitting here waiting on Sova77 to weigh in and explain things.

But check this logic out—apparently there are "no issues" because the ISIS flag doesn't target one specific group. Since the ISIS flag is against EVERYONE, it’s totally fine, right? 🙏🙏

Honestly, I’m done believing anything I read lately. It feels like everything is just becoming some kind of endless Twitter meltdown.
Nicholas Nguyen Nicholas Nguyen Active Member
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joined Oct 2016
#293 ·
So you’re allowed to hate, provided you stay politically correct on your way out 🤣
Zachary Vaughn92 Zachary Vaughn92 Member
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joined Oct 2018
#294 ·
I honestly can't wrap my head around what motivates people who actually defend this kind of chaos. What "political correctness" are you even talking about? To actively sabotage your own country like this is pure insanity, yet somehow, there's still an attempt to justify it. At this point, watching how things unfold makes Putin look more and more interesting by the day.
Walter Long7 Walter Long7 Active Member
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#295 ·
Zachary Vaughn92 said:I honestly can't wrap my head around what motivates people who actually defend this kind of chaos. What "political correctness" are you even talking about? To actively sabotage your own country like this is pure insanity, yet somehow, there's still an attempt to justify it. At this point, watching how things unfold makes Putin look more and more interesting by the day.

My friend, they’re just mocking their own laws that protect the savages... though there are far more of them than those mentioned here. When I browse through the local forums, I find myself wondering, right along with the locals, what on earth is happening—if they aren't going to start hunting down anyone who actually thinks straight.
Personally, I thought it was peak irony when the conservatives in Malmo pushed for Gay Pride parades to go through neighborhoods where Muslims/migrants are the majority, only for the leftists to erupt in protest, claiming it was "racist."🤣🤣
It’s that classic situation where you’re caught in a trap and forced to pick a side between two different versions of your own people.
silentfalcon3 silentfalcon3 Active Member
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joined May 2017
#296 ·
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if something like Mossad started running operations within Sweden, or if the CIA suddenly labeled Sweden a nation that supports global terrorism...
Zachary Vaughn92 Zachary Vaughn92 Member
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joined Oct 2018
#297 ·
Walter Long7 said:My friend, they’re just mocking their own laws that protect the savages... though there are far more of them than those mentioned here. When I browse through the local forums, I find myself wondering, right along with the locals, what on earth is happening—if they aren't going to start hunting down anyone who actually thinks straight.
Personally, I thought it was peak irony when the conservatives in Malmo pushed for Gay Pride parades to go through neighborhoods where Muslims/migrants are the majority, only for the leftists to erupt in protest, claiming it was "racist."🤣🤣
It’s that classic situation where you’re caught in a trap and forced to pick a side between two different versions of your own people.

And don't get me started. It makes my skin crawl to hear that rape is being excused, while the perpetrators are just let off scot-free. Wtf?

Historically, Europe has mostly dealt with various forms of violence. But today? The real issue is "political or racial incorrectness." People use it as an excuse to ruin everything, granting every possible right to any violent offender who shows up at the door. In the long run... where exactly is this heading?
Walter Long7 Walter Long7 Active Member
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#298 ·
Zachary Vaughn92 said:And don't get me started. It makes my skin crawl to hear that rape is being excused, while the perpetrators are just let off scot-free. Wtf?

Historically, Europe has mostly dealt with various forms of violence. But today? The real issue is "political or racial incorrectness." People use it as an excuse to ruin everything, granting every possible right to any violent offender who shows up at the door. In the long run... where exactly is this heading?

This whole situation is spiraling toward a brand of totalitarianism—the kind that hides behind a mask of fake humanitarianism and a supposed fight for freedom, while actually just strangling any dissenters who don't fall in line. It’s a classic trap. Every step they take to tighten the leash only guarantees a massive backlash from the people being forced into submission. The real question is how far this can go before the entire world reaches a breaking point.
restlesshound26 restlesshound26 Newcomer
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#299 ·
nimblemaker5 said:It seems political correctness there knows absolutely no bounds...

Sweden: Displaying an ISIS flag isn't illegal because, apparently, ISIS doesn't target specific ethnic groups

"In Sweden, using the Islamic State (ISIS) flag is perfectly legal and cannot be classified as hate speech, according to a Swedish prosecutor. This ruling follows a report regarding a 23-year-old from Laholm who posted an ISIS flag on his Facebook profile."

"The photo was reported to the police back in March, which triggered an investigation into inciting racial hatred. The 23-year-old, originally from Syria, has denied any wrongdoing."

Flying The Isis flag is legal, Sweden declares

I am begging someone here to just tell me that this is nothing more than sensationalist tabloid trash, a completely distorted piece of journalism, a headline ripped straight out of context, pure clickbait...

Please...

Where on earth are we headed... and what is actually happening to us?...
wanderingbadger77 wanderingbadger77 Active Member
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joined Oct 2018
#300 ·
They love slapping that label on themselves—acting like they're the ultimate global guardians of freedom and tolerance—but honestly, they’re showing their true colors as massive racists. I mean, give me a break; apparently, only Swedes are supposed to be tolerant, kindhearted... just absolute saints.
Anyone who dares to have a different opinion gets immediately branded as the bad guy, all while they look down from their high horses, totally full of themselves and their supposed moral superiority.

We're the only ones seeing this for what it is: their integration efforts were a complete disaster long before this current wave even hit. Who are they actually trying to fool?

Just wait until they're in over their heads. With the elections coming up in 2018, we'll finally see the true "beauty" of their so-called "altruism."

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