S - Kingdom of Sweden

Rachel Allen55 said:I know Sweden inside out—it’s basically my second home. Honestly, the media censorship there is 100%. You can’t just say whatever you want in the big news outlets. Sure, you can vent on blogs or random sites, but the major media houses? Forget it. They overanalyze everything to keep things sterile and politically correct. It’s like the Swedish mindset is hardwired that way. People act like ultra-religious zealots, weighing every single word because they're terrified of being punished if they step out of line. I live right across from Malmö; on a clear night, I can literally see the city lights. There are massive issues happening that the Swedish authorities just don't seem to have a handle on yet. I can back up the doctor situation too—over the last decade, we've seen a massive influx of Swedish doctors in Denmark, partly due to the language and easy credential recognition, but honestly, the numbers are so high they're starting to throw the whole system out of whack. Since she's half Canadian and half Swede, I think what she said is 100% spot on. I can't speak to specific incidents in Stockholm since I'm not there constantly, but I do know Malmö has become a real flashpoint—it's starting to feel a bit like East Harlem or parts of the Bronx in NYC. From what I read in Danish media, all the major Swedish cities are becoming problematic so fast that the police and security agencies just can't keep up.

They don't even release crime statistics publicly in Sweden anymore. The last real report back in 2005 showed that crime rates among immigrants were double those of Swedes. For Africans, it was five times higher.

It’s much the same over here in Denmark; you see an endless sea of satellite dishes clinging to apartment buildings, even though every single unit is already wired for cable.

Susan Green2 said:It’s much the same over here in Denmark; you see an endless sea of satellite dishes clinging to apartment buildings, even though every single unit is already wired for cable.

It’s hit or miss—every municipality or apartment complex makes its own rules. I actually saw a case where a woman from Canada was allowed to have a dish because it helped her integrate, while two other families—one from Sri Lanka and one from an Arab country—were blocked because they were on welfare. Nobody even mentioned discrimination; instead, people were praising her for trying to fit in, while telling the others they should just be tossed into the ocean. That kind of tone was flying around. Though, to be fair, there were some folks who wanted to toss her in the ocean, too.

People here don't sweat being labeled the way they do in Sweden. To your average Swede, the typical Dane seems like a hardcore racist, xenophobe, or nationalist. Meanwhile, Danes tend to view Swedes as nothing but naive idiots. In that regard, Denmark and Sweden are night and day. Two completely different worlds. Saying they have anything in common is like claiming that knowing a bit of Spanish means you basically understand Japanese.

http://www.savemysweden.com/swedish-...o-dress-wrong/

Moral policing in Swedish suburbs targets women for "improper" clothing

Sweden, 2018.

Bravo. ☕

In the Kingdom of Sweden, authorities handled 139 reports of forced marriages and genital mutilation last year.
Just more "traditional" Swedish customs, I suppose. ☕

Sweden is playing a dangerous game. They’ve already hit rock bottom with Denmark, and on top of all those messy territorial disputes, now the Swedes are starting to pull this "Mother Theresa" act over Denmark's head. Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if we woke up one morning to a headline reading: "Border Closed Between Denmark and Sweden." It feels totally plausible given how toxic things have gotten. A huge part of the problem is that most Danish political parties are backing the Democratic Party, which—let's be real—is viewed with massive skepticism back in Sweden.

Rachel Allen55 said:Sweden is playing a dangerous game. They’ve already hit rock bottom with Denmark, and on top of all those messy territorial disputes, now the Swedes are starting to pull this "Mother Theresa" act over Denmark's head. Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if we woke up one morning to a headline reading: "Border Closed Between Denmark and Sweden." It feels totally plausible given how toxic things have gotten. A huge part of the problem is that most Danish political parties are backing the Democratic Party, which—let's be real—is viewed with massive skepticism back in Sweden.

Can you elaborate on the relationship between Sweden and Denmark? What specific territorial issues are we talking about? I know they had a history of conflict and wars, but I'm not caught up on their current political landscape.

What’s the forecast looking like for the September 9th elections? Any idea what the potential outcomes might be? Specifically, does the Democratic Party actually have a shot at securing a second term? I’m not exactly an expert on the political landscape in Sweden—I just keep hearing that the Swedish Democrats have been gaining quite a bit of momentum lately...
Could someone please get me up to speed on the current situation?

Charles Garcia3 said:What’s the forecast looking like for the September 9th elections? Any idea what the potential outcomes might be? Specifically, does the Democratic Party actually have a shot at securing a second term? I’m not exactly an expert on the political landscape in Sweden—I just keep hearing that the Swedish Democrats have been gaining quite a bit of momentum lately...
Could someone please get me up to speed on the current situation?

The elections in Sweden will probably feel a lot like things in Canada—meaning the Democratic Party will likely pull in around 25%, yet they won't be able to cobble together a majority. On top of that, the left side of the spectrum is split between several different parties, which just makes forming a functional government even more of a headache.

My take? We’re looking at another social democrat government backed by a minority coalition, just like we've seen before.

But, there's this slow opening for a potential alliance between the moderates and the Democratic Party.
I remember back during the last election cycle, nobody would even pick up the phone to talk to the Democratic Party. Now, the tone has shifted completely; you're already hearing whispers about cooperation at the local level.
On paper, if those two parties team up with a few right-wing outfits, they'll actually outvote the entire left bloc.
In the next round, I’m fully expecting a coalition between these two...

So, does Sweden actually have specific laws defining what constitutes sexual harassment, or is it all just down to how someone chooses to interpret a situation at the moment?

I’m asking because I’m still reeling from a story a colleague told me about her son. He’s 18, working a seasonal gig through a student service at a pool resort in California—just basic stuff like setting up lounge chairs, towels, umbrellas, you know the drill. Well, he was fired on the spot because some Swede in her late twenties claimed he was sexually harassing her. We looked at the security footage, and honestly, it was absurd. In the clip, he’s standing about three feet away from her; he doesn't touch her, doesn't even speak to her. He’s just standing there observing a group conversation while biting his nails. It might be socially awkward, sure, but I fail to see how that could be classified as sexual harassment in any civilized country.🙂🙂

Brenda Lee10 said:Can you elaborate on the relationship between Sweden and Denmark? What specific territorial issues are we talking about? I know they had a history of conflict and wars, but I'm not caught up on their current political landscape.

Basically, we're talking about two countries that have fought each other more than almost anyone else. There’s still this unresolved issue regarding three specific regions in southern Sweden. Technically, those areas were never fully handed over to Sweden; they were only "de-jure" in certain contexts and are still considered Danish. All those old treaties—I think there was one at Roskilde and another in Stockholm—are basically just useless scraps of paper at this point since both sides still claim them. Swedes honestly feel like the island of Bornholm and Anholt should actually belong to Sweden today.

If things were settled, the map would probably look like this.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Skaaneland.png

Denmark and Sweden have pretty lukewarm relations. They respect each other, sure, but there's zero real political cooperation. The Danes are way too nationalistic for the Swedes, and the Swedes think the Danes are just a bunch of naive idiots. You can even see it in their jokes.

Remember that story where a foreigner owning a pub hung up Swedish flags because of some Swedish tourists during a game, and the locals trashed the place? He told them if they did it again, he'd start breaking their windows.

SWEDISH MULTICULTURALISM AT A CROSSROADS Despite massive investments of both time and money, integrating hundreds of thousands of migrants is proving to be a monumental challenge

Well, no kidding, Sherlock Holmes. ☕

nimblemoose2 said:SWEDISH MULTICULTURALISM AT A CROSSROADS Despite massive investments of both time and money, integrating hundreds of thousands of migrants is proving to be a monumental challenge

Well, no kidding, Sherlock Holmes. ☕

Interesting. 😵

"Meanwhile, the Swedish national broadcaster, PBS, quite timidly reported that out of the 163,000 immigrants—the 'new Swedes'—who arrived in 2016, only 494, or a mere 0.3 percent, managed to secure employment and contribute to the tax base today. Finally, there are cases of true small-town absurdity. For instance, Sweden has, in its politically correct schizophrenia, legitimized polygamy; only after those initial concessions did their parliament finally lift the ban on recognizing marriages where the woman had not reached the age of majority this past March. Even that proposal faced fierce opposition within the legislature...

And they aren't the only ones leaving. Since the immigrant crisis of 2015, more than 300,000 Swedes have emigrated from Sweden, which easily exceeds the emigration numbers seen during the agricultural crisis of the 1800s, the so-called year of great weakness.

Denmark vs. Sweden: two totally different vibes, yet they're basically hitting the same wall when it comes to integration.

When you look at the whole integration scene, none of these Nordic countries seem actually willing to step up and try. Denmark is pretty much bringing up the rear on this one. Then you’ve got Sweden, which is supposedly leading the pack, but honestly? It’s a mess. Trying to blend into any Nordic society is a pipe dream—it’s like showing up to some tiny, isolated town in the middle of nowhere where everyone is cold and closed off, and you're just the outsider trying to break the ice. Even if you were a local, it would be an uphill battle, let alone being a foreigner. Your only real shot is being born into it or growing up there from day one. From what I can tell, Denmark talks a big game about integrating immigrants, but nothing ever actually moves. Same story in Sweden. And even then, people are mass-exiting these Nordic countries. For instance, those Irish folks who managed to stick around in Denmark and get their papers? Once they have them, they’re packing up for Canada or the USA. Everyone claims they've got family out there, but hey, that's usually the go-to excuse.

Surprisingly high quality for a piece from the New York Times.
Bitter multicultural experiences in Sweden. I just fear it will be a long time before they fully realize their mistake, and by then, there will be no turning back.

Nicholas Nguyen said:Surprisingly high quality for a piece from the New York Times.
Bitter multicultural experiences in Sweden. I just fear it will be a long time before they fully realize their mistake, and by then, there will be no turning back.

I don't think they'll get it at all. Their priority is maintaining an open, multicultural society, and they'll fight to protect that even if it means their own disappearance.
Thirty or forty years ago, everyone looked up to them; they were the archetype of a nation—tall, blonde people, social safety nets, a society built on order, hard work, and prosperity...

That's what happens when the Greens, the Reds, the Leftists, and the hippies start running the show.🤦

Take a look at this case study a Swedish woman blocking the deportation of a man from Afghanistan.

Sweden—as a society—has been so incredibly well-ordered and functional for so long that people have simply become bored. This is how they manufacture excitement; they play these little games just so they can feel like some kind of hero or whatever.

Honestly, two decent slaps to the face—one left, one right—would have sorted this out easily enough. The flight was bound for Istanbul, so I’m certain there were plenty of people from the Middle East on that plane. It’s hardly surprising she didn't get much pushback. To any sane person, these types of weak-willed attention seekers are nothing short of revolting.

Zachary Reyes6 said:Take a look at this case study a Swedish woman blocking the deportation of a man from Afghanistan.

Sweden—as a society—has been so incredibly well-ordered and functional for so long that people have simply become bored. This is how they manufacture excitement; they play these little games just so they can feel like some kind of hero or whatever.

Honestly, two decent slaps to the face—one left, one right—would have sorted this out easily enough. The flight was bound for Istanbul, so I’m certain there were plenty of people from the Middle East on that plane. It’s hardly surprising she didn't get much pushback. To any sane person, these types of weak-willed attention seekers are nothing short of revolting.

I really don't get what people like her are thinking. There are actual laws in place for a reason.
He isn't being denied deportation because they dislike his haircut—he's being deported because he's in Sweden illegally and doesn't meet any of the criteria for asylum.

The whole justification this woman used to obstruct the process was that "he'll be killed the moment he sets foot in Afghanistan." 🤦

Since when did someone's personal feelings start carrying more weight than the law? People like her are going to significantly lower the standard of living in developed Western nations with this kind of sheer idiocy.

I honestly feel like people in the States are way more sketched out by Islam and Black people than folks over in Europe. Take France, for example—they’ve got huge populations of both, yet 99% of the time, everything is totally fine. I'm not saying there aren't nationalists out there looking for a fight, but they never seem to win at the polls. If things were actually that dangerous, why isn't it happening? Plus, a lot of the older Muslims or even some Black residents in France don't even have the right to vote because they lack citizenship and all that. Then you look at Denmark, where xenophobia is basically the main course in politics and daily conversation. They try so hard to paint foreigners in a bad light, but honestly, if you aren't part of the "in" crowd today, you're garbage to them regardless of whether you're Muslim, Catholic, or Jewish. Race doesn't even matter; being from the EU or not doesn't change much either. And the weirdest part? The focus on Muslims and Black people has actually faded. It used to be all about social welfare and kids, but now the headlines are always about Romanians breaking into houses or committing assaults, Poles working under the table, North American guys smuggling weapons, or Lithuanians running prostitution rings on the streets.

So, how’s the integration actually playing out for second-generation Eastern Europeans?
I mean, do they really see themselves as Svedjan, or is that Polish/American/Mexican identity still super strong for them?
And honestly, does that whole collective identity thing even matter anymore in such an individualistic world?
Plus, how are the native Svedjan folks actually treating them?