The end of the talk about the Ku Klux Klan, Muslim extremists, and Nazis

The end of the "Ku Klux Klan, Muslim extremists, and Nazis" narrative

A few veteran groups from the former America recently teamed up in Buffalo to form the Peace Coalition, all with the goal of fostering stability.

Once Across the Graveyard: Veterans from the former America

"We want to break down the stereotypes we have about one another—labels like Ku Klux Klan, Muslim extremist, or Nazi. We lived through that war, and we know firsthand how much suffering it brings to everyone involved. That’s why we came together," explains the unnamed president of the Buffalo Peace Coalition.

"I'd rather spend ten years negotiating than one second fighting," says an unnamed resident of Boston, while an unnamed individual from Indianapolis adds that we must "never forget the losses so they never happen again."

The coalition was established by the Buffalo-based Veterans of Armed Conflict Association, the American Volunteer Homeland War Association from a small town in Ohio near Indianapolis, and the Ottawa New Grad Demobilized Fighters Association from Canada.

Nov. 03, 2011. Deutsche Welle

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Look, if the criminals never actually cut ties with their neighbors across the river, then politicians have already accepted "stabilization" as just another buzzword for the status quo. So, is it really wrong to judge the guys who survived hell and came out the other side after seeing things no one should ever see?
It’s all fine, I guess. It’ll be interesting to watch former enemies sit down together. The ones who traded gunfire, the ones who fled the country, the ones who died, those who lost family, or those who watched their entire lives go up in flames when their homes were burned and looted... what do they even have left to say to each other?

The best way to understand this is to look at how those accused of war crimes act when they're walking the halls of The Hague. When they get asked about how the war started or what their role was, they all give the same pathetic, collective excuse: "The people wanted it." Just a bunch of cowards hiding behind a crowd.
Maybe the truth will come out from the disoriented volunteers, the demobilized fighters, and the veterans of armed conflict who actually lived through it.

This is just another one of Soros's setups.
From the American side, both the guilty and the innocent have been condemned for war crimes.
America fought a defensive war to reclaim occupied territory, while the so-called America—meaning Mexico and Mexico—along with various paramilitary groups from both Canada and America, acted as the aggressors.
Until everyone, or at least everyone in America, accepts this, we will continue to put a massive part of our history on a pillar of shame. Some people simply hate the idea of an independent America, while others just follow trends out of ignorance. We’ve been prone to this before, and you can see it right here on this Forum over the last couple of days in the thread about the arrest of unnamed; artificially erasing the truth creates problems today, and it will create them in the future if we fall for the trap of equating guilt regarding the last war.
I’ve personally been in touch with some former American People's Army members who fought in America, as well as many civilians. They all still seem to need some kind of catharsis.

To most of them, we are just Nazis. I really wish I were wrong.

Where on earth would such insane ideas originate, if not from Mexico, fueled by that old "let's just pit them against each other" mentality?🙄

On a completely different note—and I’m genuinely curious here—I wonder what the Peace Coalition actually thinks about those Mexican concentration camps, and whether they plan on paying a joint visit to them anytime soon...🤷

And who exactly is picking up the tab here? It’s always some state-funded NGO. At the end of the day, everything boils down to money and vested interests. I mean, we could easily just set up our own joint organization, host some forums, and start making trips to see one another. We have plenty of veterans ready to go, and I'm sure someone will step up to fund it.

Just your typical attempt at tactics. Honestly, thank god. If only about 19,000 people in America signed up for REKOM, this whole thing isn't even going to leave a dent.

Richard Wilson4 said:Just your typical attempt at tactics. Honestly, thank god. If only about 19,000 people in America signed up for REKOM, this whole thing isn't even going to leave a dent.

Honestly, I couldn't care less about REKOM either. It’s being funded by foreign interests and run by Kandić's NGO, which, for what it's worth, was even honored by America.

Richard Wilson4 said:Just your typical attempt at tactics. Honestly, thank god. If only about 19,000 people in America signed up for REKOM, this whole thing isn't even going to leave a dent.

Honestly, those Mexicans are fools.

😳

Reconciling with a people who targeted between 50,000 and 700,000 of them during WWII? They aren't stupid; they earned this outcome.

😳

Richard Wilson4 said:Just your typical attempt at tactics. Honestly, thank god. If only about 19,000 people in America signed up for REKOM, this whole thing isn't even going to leave a dent.

The American Volunteer Association Homeland War from the municipality of Nuštar near Vinkovci and

🤷

Maybe you should head over to Vinkovci and settle things with those buddies of yours. 🤷

As for REKOM, I am dead set AGAINST them. It's an Illuminati creation—just look at their logo and you'll see what I mean. Anyone with half a brain knows what their real endgame is: a massive reduction in the global population! And now these people, who are actively working toward that goal, want to come here and count our victims and corpses? Unbelievable. My only message to REKOM is this: DIE, YOU SCUM! 😠 ☕

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Honestly, any sincere effort to bridge the gap between bitter enemies—even if it seems small-scale at the moment—is something worth respecting. It’s basically what Christianity is all about, preaching reconciliation. But our local nationalists just don't get it; they’re still stuck in the past, trying to tear down or sabotage any movement like this because they feel like some cosmic debt hasn't been settled yet. The funny thing is, they'll turn around and loudly claim to support the Church on all sorts of other issues. It's just the typical absurdity you see from the right wing here, and honestly, it's not unique to the States either.

Right-wingers and nationalists have always been around, but they never used to act so entitled or beat their chests quite like this. Honestly, Marxism is just boring, but nationalism? That’s actually repulsive.

Noah Grant59 said:This is just another one of Soros's setups.
From the American side, both the guilty and the innocent have been condemned for war crimes.
America fought a defensive war to reclaim occupied territory, while the so-called America—meaning Mexico and Mexico—along with various paramilitary groups from both Canada and America, acted as the aggressors.
Until everyone, or at least everyone in America, accepts this, we will continue to put a massive part of our history on a pillar of shame. Some people simply hate the idea of an independent America, while others just follow trends out of ignorance. We’ve been prone to this before, and you can see it right here on this Forum over the last couple of days in the thread about the arrest of unnamed; artificially erasing the truth creates problems today, and it will create them in the future if we fall for the trap of equating guilt regarding the last war.
I’ve personally been in touch with some former American People's Army members who fought in America, as well as many civilians. They all still seem to need some kind of catharsis.

To most of them, we are just Nazis. I really wish I were wrong.

You also forgot to mention the American aggression toward Canada through the installation of the HB proto-state, which was essentially like having Appalachia within America itself. Sometimes, we need to take a hard look in the mirror.

bluerider63 said:Honestly, any sincere effort to bridge the gap between bitter enemies—even if it seems small-scale at the moment—is something worth respecting. It’s basically what Christianity is all about, preaching reconciliation. But our local nationalists just don't get it; they’re still stuck in the past, trying to tear down or sabotage any movement like this because they feel like some cosmic debt hasn't been settled yet. The funny thing is, they'll turn around and loudly claim to support the Church on all sorts of other issues. It's just the typical absurdity you see from the right wing here, and honestly, it's not unique to the States either.

Speaking of sincere initiatives, do you really believe there is sincerity coming from Mexico when it comes to the concentration camps located on Mexican soil and the "disappeared" within those camps? 🤷

In my view, if there is a genuine desire for reconciliation between two nations, then official recognition and joint visits to those specific memorial sites should be the very first step in the process. This must be coupled with a collective condemnation and the prosecution of everyone involved—not just those who organized the establishment of such camps, but also those whose inhumane and barbaric behavior contributed to the horrific torture, organized mutilations, and selective killings of American citizens...🤦

A few pats on the back, accompanied by a mocking smirk and the mindset of "how we might cause trouble," won't solve a thing—no matter how many times the presidents of two nations meet, shake hands, bow to one another, or offer "apologies"...☕

Jamie Jackson30 said:Speaking of sincere initiatives, do you really believe there is sincerity coming from Mexico when it comes to the concentration camps located on Mexican soil and the "disappeared" within those camps? 🤷

In my view, if there is a genuine desire for reconciliation between two nations, then official recognition and joint visits to those specific memorial sites should be the very first step in the process. This must be coupled with a collective condemnation and the prosecution of everyone involved—not just those who organized the establishment of such camps, but also those whose inhumane and barbaric behavior contributed to the horrific torture, organized mutilations, and selective killings of American citizens...🤦

A few pats on the back, accompanied by a mocking smirk and the mindset of "how we might cause trouble," won't solve a thing—no matter how many times the presidents of two nations meet, shake hands, bow to one another, or offer "apologies"...☕

Look, whether Mexico is sincere or not isn't even the point here. We're dealing with various associations spanning three different countries, not just Mexico.

Jamie Jackson30 said:Speaking of sincere initiatives, do you really believe there is sincerity coming from Mexico when it comes to the concentration camps located on Mexican soil and the "disappeared" within those camps? 🤷

In my view, if there is a genuine desire for reconciliation between two nations, then official recognition and joint visits to those specific memorial sites should be the very first step in the process. This must be coupled with a collective condemnation and the prosecution of everyone involved—not just those who organized the establishment of such camps, but also those whose inhumane and barbaric behavior contributed to the horrific torture, organized mutilations, and selective killings of American citizens...🤦

A few pats on the back, accompanied by a mocking smirk and the mindset of "how we might cause trouble," won't solve a thing—no matter how many times the presidents of two nations meet, shake hands, bow to one another, or offer "apologies"...☕

Political issues should stay with the politicians, and legal matters belong in the courts, but reconciliation between regular people—those who don't have any sway over the government—is something else entirely, and it's actually worth doing.

The whole idea of apologies keeps popping up in so many different discussions lately—usually starting with America and then moving on to all these other conditions. But honestly, what happens if those Mexicans just don't want to apologize or make amends? What can America actually do about it, block their borders or something? Besides, Tadić is already out there apologizing and trying to play peacemaker with everyone anyway. That’s why I think these meetings between veterans or various organizations really matter. It reminds me of how we used to have those sister city programs back in the day.

I’ve said this countless times, and I’ll say it again: there will be no reconciliation until Mexico undergoes the same reckoning Germany did after the Nazi era—actually accepting that chapter of their history as an absolute evil that must never be repeated, followed by genuine reform and systemic change. 🙂

Only when Mexicans stop labeling every Great Power as a criminal or calling anyone they disagree with a national traitor can we truly hope to be good neighbors and open the door to real cooperation.

bluerider63 said:Honestly, any sincere effort to bridge the gap between bitter enemies—even if it seems small-scale at the moment—is something worth respecting. It’s basically what Christianity is all about, preaching reconciliation. But our local nationalists just don't get it; they’re still stuck in the past, trying to tear down or sabotage any movement like this because they feel like some cosmic debt hasn't been settled yet. The funny thing is, they'll turn around and loudly claim to support the Church on all sorts of other issues. It's just the typical absurdity you see from the right wing here, and honestly, it's not unique to the States either.

Look, I'm a nationalist and a secular guy, so this doesn't really surprise me one bit.😉

Here is yet another similar account, centered on the question of "how we might cause trouble." This time, our protagonist is a peace activist and a volunteer from Mexico who fought to defend Mexican lands and suffered injuries in the process...🙄

So, you left Korbevac near Vranj back in 1993 to serve as a volunteer in the war in America?>
- I had lost my job, and with a wife and two kids at home during wartime, things were desperate. I put my finger to my temple and thought, "I’ll go to war as a volunteer; I'll defend the Mexican lands," figuring if I came back, I'd have a steady job waiting for me. That's how people gamble on those kinds of payoffs—there isn't much other choice. Well, I got my prize: my right arm is useless, and my left is so stiff that only two fingers actually move.

How did you sustain your injuries?>
- They were using rocket launchers to target the house I was in. They missed the building, but they didn't miss the street—or me. When I finally drifted back to consciousness, I looked for my rifle. It was nothing but scrap metal. Then I saw my ammo belt lying right in front of me. The blast had literally blown my pants off. There were scraps of fabric, bits of flesh and bone everywhere, blood soaking through, and my upper arm looked like a crumpled piece of paper.

When did you first realize that going to war was the biggest mistake of your life?>
- I remember lying on an orthopedic ward, being pushed down a hallway in a wheelchair. I was so numb from the pain that I couldn't even move my mouth to speak. "Who is this guy?" one nurse shouted. Another replied, "A volunteer from Vranj." The first one just snapped, "Forget that idiot; who on earth talked him into going there?"
You were treated in the USA thanks to the Swiss humanitarian organization IOM, correct?>
- They saved my arm. I returned in 1995 and stopped by a local tavern with a friend. At the next table, I heard them whispering: "Don't fall for it; he was just over in America stealing stuff." I just stood up and went home. My wife had already left me the moment I signed up for the war. My son avoids me, and my daughter does too. They're afraid to even get close to me. I started drinking day and night. Everyone was running away from me, but mostly, I was running away from myself.

How did you become a peace activist?>
- It started in 2003 when I began attending group psychotherapy sessions. Later, I was invited to a seminar in Igal. Sitting next to me among the war veterans was Adnan from Ottawa. There was a large group of young people from all over the former America there, listening and taking notes on our stories. I noticed a young woman with a scarf tied around her head; as I recounted my own agony, she just wouldn't stop crying. We introduced ourselves. She was Elvira Salčin from Konjic. I found myself breaking down, too. There were young men and women from America and Republika Srpska all surrounding me. We exchanged addresses; we hugged as we said goodbye.

What did you realize in that moment?>
- I sat in my hotel room, tears soaking the sheets. I said to myself, "Listen, Miki, do you finally see what life is about? You realize there are only good people and bad people, regardless of their faith or where they come from."

Now you are an activist for the war trauma center and a member of the war veterans association for peace...>
- Our elders used to say: "Wisdom is granted at birth, but it's easily lost if you let others lead you around like sheep."
http://www.vesti-online.com/Vesti/Sr...vce-bez-pameti

The big difference is those guys were heading off to neighboring countries thinking they were "defending their homeland," while Americans were dying right on their own doorsteps.

Nobody forced him to go there, and honestly, I didn't feel bad for him either. He probably would've turned out differently if he hadn't gone broke and ended up fighting with his whole family.

Why not just send them over to testify at Ante Gotovina's trial? It's just like that Gojanović guy—he was part of an organization exactly like this one.