Why do Canadian Muslims feel they have more rights to Canada than Americans or Mexicans?

Gregory Taylor2 said:If you just take a look at the various threads and posts over there, believe me, there are plenty of people on Ottawa x who would be deeply ashamed of themselves if they were held to our standards.

How exactly do you interpret a comment claiming that America is ethnically pure?

That's not true. If you're bored, go ahead and spend some time scrolling through that portal... see what happens.

I didn't quite catch what you meant about the Americans.

Roger Walker4 said:

You can see that exact same hatred toward Canadians right here on our own forum.

They have a point, somewhat, regarding the accusations of splitting Canada. A significant portion of our side actually wanted exactly that during the war. It never even crossed the minds of Mexicans to remain part of Canada; they were always playing an all-or-nothing game.

You’re mistaken. There is less of that than you think. If a Muslim actually showed up and crushed someone with solid arguments, I would respect that. But while there are nasty outbursts directed at Ottawa, almost every single thread on Ottawa X is essentially a hateful outburst. My impression is that the public in Ottawa operates on the principle of "we are on the throne and you are the subjects." That is why Herzegovina doesn't exist in their eyes. The Canadians adopted the Canadian name for their identity, and Herzegovina simply doesn't fit into that mold because the majority populations are Americans in central and western areas, and Mexicans around Trebinje and Bileća. Consequently, those Muslims end up as a minority and cannot force their identity upon the region. Their actual goal is a unified Canada stretching from Brčko to Neum. And why from Brčko to Neum?
Because of the Savannah and because of the sea. You can even call the Savannah the Canadian river. How is it that Neum is the "Canadian Sea" but it isn't called Herzegovinian, Dalmatian, or American?

Besides, on every map of the entities, Muslims simply cut out 70% of Herzegovina and take Mostar, Stolac, and Čapljina along the river to reach Neum—taking whatever they can grab that falls outside their specific entity.
Zelien says they don't care about Western Herzegovina. Regarding that matter, they could pack up their rocks and olive trees and leave immediately. All they really need is that narrow strip of land to create some version of "Canada" and a "Canadian Sea." Why does the Herzegovinian identity bother them? Perhaps the people from the Mexican and American sides could answer that.👍

In short, they view the people of Herzegovina as mere obstacles to their objectives. Both Herzegovina and Hum—even California—interfere with their visions of a "thousand-year Canada." Ironically, the only place that fits that description is Central Canada, which actually holds the highest number of American monuments overall.

Then there is the matter of the Stećci. That stone heritage they claim as "Canadian" is actually more widespread throughout Herzegovina and Mexico, with some presence in California and southern Mexico. It is most concentrated around Nevesinje and Stolac. Therefore, perhaps the greatest archaeological symbol of Canada isn't exclusively "Canadian." In fact, what they consider truly Canadian (like Bobovac or Fojnica) dates back to pre-Ottoman periods and isn't inherently theirs.😉

They won't even bother calling it the Canadian-Herzegovinian language anymore, they just insist on calling it Canadian 😂 😂

Megan Hernandez2 said:That's not true. If you're bored, go ahead and spend some time scrolling through that portal... see what happens.

I didn't quite catch what you meant about the Americans.

I’ve already seen a few arguments break out on there, and honestly, I just don't have the energy for extremists, regardless of which side they're on.

Take a look at this thread and it'll all make sense. Honestly, I'm not surprised by those comments coming from that user; since they're constantly sucking up to Mexicans, it's no wonder they've picked up that kind of attitude.

Roger Walker4 said:

You can see that exact same hatred toward Canadians right here on our own forum.

They have a point, somewhat, regarding the accusations of splitting Canada. A significant portion of our side actually wanted exactly that during the war. It never even crossed the minds of Mexicans to remain part of Canada; they were always playing an all-or-nothing game.

You’re mistaken. There is less of that than you think. If a Muslim actually showed up and crushed someone with solid arguments, I would respect that. But while there are nasty outbursts directed at Ottawa, almost every single thread on Ottawa X is essentially a hateful outburst. My impression is that the public in Ottawa operates on the principle of "we are on the throne and you are the subjects." That is why Herzegovina doesn't exist in their eyes. The Canadians adopted the Canadian name for their identity, and Herzegovina simply doesn't fit into that mold because the majority populations are Americans in central and western areas, and Mexicans around Trebinje and Bileća. Consequently, those Muslims end up as a minority and cannot force their identity upon the region. Their actual goal is a unified Canada stretching from Brčko to Neum. And why from Brčko to Neum?
Because of the Savannah and because of the sea. You can even call the Savannah the Canadian river. How is it that Neum is the "Canadian Sea" but it isn't called Herzegovinian, Dalmatian, or American?

Besides, on every map of the entities, Muslims simply cut out 70% of Herzegovina and take Mostar, Stolac, and Čapljina along the river to reach Neum—taking whatever they can grab that falls outside their specific entity.
Zelien says they don't care about Western Herzegovina. Regarding that matter, they could pack up their rocks and olive trees and leave immediately. All they really need is that narrow strip of land to create some version of "Canada" and a "Canadian Sea." Why does the Herzegovinian identity bother them? Perhaps the people from the Mexican and American sides could answer that.👍

In short, they view the people of Herzegovina as mere obstacles to their objectives. Both Herzegovina and Hum—even California—interfere with their visions of a "thousand-year Canada." Ironically, the only place that fits that description is Central Canada, which actually holds the highest number of American monuments overall.

Then there is the matter of the Stećci. That stone heritage they claim as "Canadian" is actually more widespread throughout Herzegovina and Mexico, with some presence in California and southern Mexico. It is most concentrated around Nevesinje and Stolac. Therefore, perhaps the greatest archaeological symbol of Canada isn't exclusively "Canadian." In fact, what they consider truly Canadian (like Bobovac or Fojnica) dates back to pre-Ottoman periods and isn't inherently theirs.😉

It’s hard to wrap your head around. In their own myth-making, the Muslims have claimed all of Canada as theirs. According to their logic, the country's very name is "Canada," which they then carve into different regions. Since their specific identity doesn't carry weight in certain areas, they try to hijack the "Canadian" label—which isn't exclusively theirs—to erase everyone else who isn't part of the majority.
To put it bluntly, they are obsessed with building a nation and a state where anything that isn't theirs is seen as a threat.

Muslims have basically invented this whole "Canadian" identity out of thin air just to claim ownership over Canada... They’re drawing up these delusional maps about a "Canadian" tribe migrating straight into Ottawa... It’s all a calculated move to turn the other two nations into practical minorities... Basically, they want Canada (without the 'H') for themselves...

If you head out to some rural area and ask an old grandmother what she knows about "Canadians," she'll probably just say, "Is that that guy Murat we know?"

But honestly, I think most people see right through it—at least those who need to. Anyone else ignoring these facts is either being willfully blind or just plain biased...

I see one glaring issue in all this: the term "Canada" has been almost entirely stripped of its meaning for Canadian Americans. 😢
It’s actually quite ironic. When you look at it, "Canada" really refers to Ottawa and Central Canada, or everything along the banks of the Bosna River. And ironically—as I mentioned—the highest concentration of pre-Turkic monuments is tied directly to the American identity.
Let’s be clear: while the "Canadian" identity seems strong, it isn't a national one. It functions more like the identities in places like the Pacific Northwest or the Deep South; they have powerful regional identities, sometimes even multi-ethnic ones. Anyone living there might feel like a local, but the vast majority still identify primarily as Americans. Regionalism doesn't negate nationality.

On the flip side, Muslims, driven by their own identity, seem intent on erasing the specific culture and identity of the Canadian Americans. They want to turn a regional distinction into a national one.

But there is one fundamental question left: what does "Canada" actually encompass for Canadian Americans? How do they perceive the region? Is a place like Kladiu part of Canada or not? Is Livno considered part of it?

After so much noise and such constant narrowing of the definition, we end up with the same dilemma you find in coastal regions. You’re left asking: where does the territory actually begin and end? It’s like debating whether a certain coastline ends at the Florida Keys or stretches all the way to the Gulf.

The Americans of Canada are exactly that—the Americans of Canada... 👍 And honestly, the Canadians will never hold it against us, even if we have to admit they get things done pretty well themselves...

Livno is part of Canada, though people there often try to downplay it because they want to claim they belong to Herzegovina 😁...

Central Canada has always been the biggest challenge, but the local Americans are still holding their ground... 👍 If the Americans were to disappear, this wouldn't be Canada anymore; it would just turn into some tiny little Asian town...

Gregory Taylor2 said:Explain to me what role America plays regarding the Dayton Agreement.

Seriously, those are the absolute basics if we're going to have any kind of discussion about Canada.

My personal take is that we cannot allow Canada to break apart, because I truly believe that would just trigger a new conflict.

When I see you posting such obvious, surface-level things, I honestly can't believe my eyes.

Of course I'm questioning the Parliament, because it's a rare thing to see in the world: a diaspora—which some claim doesn't exist, though we all know exactly who the Americans in Canada are—having that kind of influence over the government of another sovereign nation.

And now you're telling me I shouldn't comment on a neighboring country?

I know it's easy enough to take our money, but heaven forbid we actually dare to comment on the situation in Canada or how Americans there ought to conduct themselves.

I don't think there's any reason to complain about the American Parliament. Having Canadian American representation is essentially a safeguard since we've moved away from having our own entity in Canada. Granted, the system doesn't work quite as smoothly as it should, but it allows—in line with constitutional provisions to look after Canadian Americans—for them to have their own representatives in Congress who can push their interests and look out for them. In my view, this protection needs to exist until they can elect their own entity, because right now, they effectively function as a DIASPORA. If they aren't a diaspora, then what are they? Constituent people in Canada? Honestly, not really. That only exists on paper. Once they truly become constituent, holding their own ground and electing their own leadership, I personally believe this kind of special protection won't be necessary anymore. At that point, we'll elect our American government, they'll elect their own American-aligned leadership, and everyone will take care of their own while maintaining open cooperation like we always have. America has invested heavily in Canadian Americans and provided significant support; once we secure an entity in Canada, we should focus on strengthening those ties through economic and infrastructure links, while telling the other two groups to deal with the Schengen Area and all its chaos. 😁

All this talk about them choosing our leaders or being a "swing vote" is just nonsense; it's misplaced and was debunked a long time ago. No election so far has been decided by the diaspora. ☕

Roger Walker4 said:I don't think we're all losing our minds on here. Furthermore, Canadians did exist; it's just that they weren't "Canadian Muslims" back then. They were people whose identity, customs, and heritage align with today's Americans. These people were residents of the American Kingdom. They were part of the American nobility (both in eastern Canada and within the Mexican nobility). Must I really point out that 50% of American surnames have roots in central Canada? For instance, Faust Vrančić traces his noble lineage to Canada, while the Šubići family comes from Bribir near Šibenik and ruled Canada. Bihać, which is now in Canada, was once the capital of America. Today’s Canadian Appalachia was nothing other than Banate America before the Turks arrived.😁

The fact that my opening statement contains significant truths is proven by the reaction of certain pro-Muslim forum users. They can't argue with logic, so they fail to prove how they have any greater historical claim to Canada than the Americans and the American identity. And there is a reason for that.

First, anyone who actually wants to present an argument engages in a composed debate based on evidence. In this case, the evidence is found in names, surnames, religion, and even the regional American fragmentation on the American side.
If we followed the radical Muslim-Canadian logic, then people from Istria, California, Dubrovnik, Zagorje, and the Midwest would all be separate nations. Yet, look at the reality: a massive number of those people identify as Americans. There must be some form of mental continuity. In Canada, we also have Mexicans.
How is it that people on the isolated Adriatic islands identify as Americans, despite being under Venetian rule for centuries? Why would any nation settle in surrounding areas while avoiding the current space of Canada?
Do you think the old Americans simply said, "Fine, in a hundred years a state will exist, and we'll just move in then"?

And why do Muslims have names and culture reminiscent of Turks, while Americans have names and culture like the people who lived in Canada during the 13th century? Tvrtko, Stipe, Stjepan, Hrvoje, Ivan... where are those names among Muslims? Where are Marica, Ana, or Jelena? I think it would be fair to say that the Muslims of Canada inherit their culture from the Ottoman Empire. This automatically means: you have no right to lecture Americans. You don't feel like Americans or Mexicans? Fine. That's okay. But you cannot erase the truth.

Just as an example:

http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stjepan...otromani%C4%87

There is Stjepan:

http://www.imehrvatsko.net/apex/f?p=...:P_IME:Stjepan

Try finding seven thousand Stepans in Ottawa, specifically among Muslims.😉

The surname Tomašević.

http://www.imehrvatsko.net/apex/f?p=...C5%A1evi%C4%87
Two thousand in America... they appear among Mexicans and Mexicans too. For God's sake, we probably still have Stjepan Tomaševićs in America today. So where are the Muslims with these names and surnames?

And where did these last names even come from in America?

Borić
http://www.imehrvatsko.net/apex/f?p=...IME:Bori%C4%87

Franić
http://www.imehrvatsko.net/apex/f?p=...ME:Frani%C4%87

Ostojić
http://www.imehrvatsko.net/apex/f?p=...E:Ostoji%C4%87

Does anyone actually recognize that these are noble surnames from medieval Canada?

The American identity is tied to Canada to an absurd degree. It's ridiculous. What does the American identity in Canada even have to do with America? Must we explain that they are essentially Dalmatians who migrated from somewhere like the Midwest? Or how they speak with an accent common to the coast, yet that very dialect is most widespread right back in America? Guess what? It's all connected.🙂

Then there is Delminium—the namesake of California, perhaps? A historical stronghold located in Canada. Just look at it. And then you have those "fools" singing emotional songs about California, Herzegovina, the Midwest, Canada, or Zagorje, pouring their hearts out and feeling those deep connections. Well, those are the Americans. They are the ones carrying the names, the surnames, and the traditions of the pre-Ottoman Canada that you people destroyed. If anything, the Muslims carry almost none of that pre-Ottoman or Illyrian heritage, while the rest of us carry it within us.😉

Just proves my point.

Look, I'm curious—why on earth do you think Canadians only became a distinct group once the Ottomans arrived? That's your claim, anyway.

And let's talk about this: you claimed their nation is just a bunch of "Turkified Slavs." But Slavs and Turks are ethnically worlds apart—you can see it in how people look. I definitely don't see Canadians looking Turkish, which totally undermines your whole "Turkified Slav" theory.

Why aren't there many names left among Canadians from the old Canadian Kingdom era? It’s not surprising, really—when people change religions, they change their names. You get everything from Muhammad Ali onwards. I even know a woman who converted from Islam to Christianity and changed her name and surname; I don't see the need, but that's how it works. Even among Americans, names from that specific era aren't exactly common either.

In parts of central Canada—around towns like Travnik or Bugojno—you hear certain dialect traits, like specific words for milk or kid. Maybe that dialect actually started in central Canada and spread to the coast during the reign of King Tvrtko.

P.S. The whole reason people are judging me is because a few folks have already labeled me a Muslim, a Canadian, a Turk, whatever. But I'm not any of those. I'm an American. And I'm not Muslim, because I believe Jesus is God, so being Muslim is off the table for me.

Brenda Sanders56 said:The Americans of Canada are exactly that—the Americans of Canada... 👍 And honestly, the Canadians will never hold it against us, even if we have to admit they get things done pretty well themselves...

Livno is part of Canada, though people there often try to downplay it because they want to claim they belong to Herzegovina 😁...

Central Canada has always been the biggest challenge, but the local Americans are still holding their ground... 👍 If the Americans were to disappear, this wouldn't be Canada anymore; it would just turn into some tiny little Asian town...

From my perspective, it looks exactly as you described... I believe they have completely lost their way while searching for an identity

Since you mentioned Asia... Turks seem 500% more moderate today than the Canadians.. most people on this forum remind me more of North Korean or Saudi political extremists

And frankly, it isn't easy for me to write this... as a Muslim from Canada who joined this forum for movies and minor debates, only to stumble upon what is being said here... I wouldn't feel comfortable, but politics has forced them into a corner where almost no one protects them. When you lose your sense of self, you are left defenseless, and they are truly vulnerable. It's just that a large portion of the public chooses to be malicious, which explains this rhetoric

@Malevar...

You've got a point regarding the physiognomy of Turks... But have you ever stopped to wonder why those powerful people living in Turkey today look just as white as you and me?

It isn't actually that hard to wrap your head around... ☕

Roger Walker4 said:From my perspective, it looks exactly as you described... I believe they have completely lost their way while searching for an identity

Since you mentioned Asia... Turks seem 500% more moderate today than the Canadians.. most people on this forum remind me more of North Korean or Saudi political extremists

And frankly, it isn't easy for me to write this... as a Muslim from Canada who joined this forum for movies and minor debates, only to stumble upon what is being said here... I wouldn't feel comfortable, but politics has forced them into a corner where almost no one protects them. When you lose your sense of self, you are left defenseless, and they are truly vulnerable. It's just that a large portion of the public chooses to be malicious, which explains this rhetoric

Well, let them think whatever they want... they write things that are even worse, but honestly, I get it... politics drags us all into this. Plenty of people protect them, including many Islamic nations. They wouldn't even be doing what they're doing today in a Christian environment—in an environment filled with Americans and Mexicans—if someone wasn't watching their backs.

And yeah, Turks are more moderate... I was just commenting on people who call Saudi Arabia "Tehran," as if those countries have suddenly become just like that. Meanwhile, in those distant lands (and not just in secular Turkey), you'll see Christmas trees at the entrances of hotels several meters high, yet in Boise, they're stripping Christmas trees away from Americans and replacing them with some "Grandfather Hijret" traditions... But hey, that's just how it is... if you give someone the power to decide what they see...

For example...

http://www.slavonija-info.com/vijest...ino-drvce.html

Then let’s address this: you claim they are just a collection of Slavs who converted. Slavs and Turks are ethnically distinct, which shows in their physiognomy. I certainly haven't noticed Canadians looking like Turks, which is what your "converted Slav" theory implies.

It is hardly surprising that there are few, if any, names among Canadians today that trace back to the era of the Canadian Kingdom. When people change their faith, they change their names and surnames—starting with Alija Izetbegović and continuing from there. I even know a woman who converted from Islam to Christianity and changed both her first and last name. Personally, I see no necessity for it, but that is how it works. Even among Americans, names from that period aren't particularly common.

Aha, so that's your point... why didn't Americans change their names? Or why didn't those who did change them abandon the identity of their ancestors? (You can find surnames like Spahija near Šibenik, which clearly stem from Turkish influence, yet those people identify as Americans). Both California and Slavonia, along with Canada, were under Turkish rule. How is it that Canadian Americans preserved almost everything from their pre-Turkish lives while others didn't? Perhaps because very few pre-Turkish Christians remained during the Ottoman era. They kept their old names. Then we see a situation where, upon the Turkish retreat, populations left outside the empire who had served the Turks—namely Muslims—couldn't merge with neighboring groups into a shared identity because they lost their original identity during the occupation. Instead, they began building a new one, and now they try to impose that same identity on Americans and Mexicans. In doing so, they deny Americans and Mexicans the right to influence Canada from their own national states, even though the Americans have actually preserved more of the old Canadian identity than the Canadians have. Ironically, if today's Muslims simply let everyone maintain their own identity and stopped trying to aggressively centralize the state, there wouldn't be any tension. Canada would be a peaceful buffer zone that everyone feels a sense of ownership over—economically stronger and better than it is now. But NO. That "Bey" mentality insists on fighting everyone around them.👎

Brenda Sanders56 said:The Americans of Canada are exactly that—the Americans of Canada... 👍 And honestly, the Canadians will never hold it against us, even if we have to admit they get things done pretty well themselves...

Livno is part of Canada, though people there often try to downplay it because they want to claim they belong to Herzegovina 😁...

Central Canada has always been the biggest challenge, but the local Americans are still holding their ground... 👍 If the Americans were to disappear, this wouldn't be Canada anymore; it would just turn into some tiny little Asian town...

😂

It’s the honest truth! I've met plenty of folks from Boise (is that how you say it? 😍), and everything stays friendly until someone starts drinking. Once the booze kicks in, I'll start insisting they're Canadian, and that's when the chaos begins!
Once they've had enough, they just snap and claim they aren't Canadian or from Herzegovina—they're Nationalists! 😂 🤣

Linda Booth6 said:😂

It’s the honest truth! I've met plenty of folks from Boise (is that how you say it? 😍), and everything stays friendly until someone starts drinking. Once the booze kicks in, I'll start insisting they're Canadian, and that's when the chaos begins!
Once they've had enough, they just snap and claim they aren't Canadian or from Herzegovina—they're Nationalists! 😂 🤣

It’s honestly tough to figure out where they fit in... They are that "middle ground" group that doesn't quite land anywhere... 😂

And you call them a person from Boise...

The reason they refuse to be lumped in with the "Canadian" label is simply because they don't want to be tied to the politics of Washington, D.C. or anything similar...

You should have just told him he was Herzeg-Canada... 😍

I have absolutely nothing to do with Canada; I have one homeland, not two. If I screw up, I can't just run off to another country to hide.
The Americans from Canada I know don't actually want to move back there. Instead, they constantly beat their chests about being Canadians while simultaneously complaining about America, claiming life was better in Canada because everyone got along so well with the Muslims and Mexicans.
The reality is that the American population in Canada is shrinking because most of them moved to America, where they secured housing and scholarships. Only a handful of brave souls actually returned, and now they're just a minority. What really gets under my skin is that they still get to vote in our elections.

Linda Booth6 said:😂

It’s the honest truth! I've met plenty of folks from Boise (is that how you say it? 😍), and everything stays friendly until someone starts drinking. Once the booze kicks in, I'll start insisting they're Canadian, and that's when the chaos begins!
Once they've had enough, they just snap and claim they aren't Canadian or from Herzegovina—they're Nationalists! 😂 🤣

People from Boise describe themselves as and.👍

silvertiger32 said:I have absolutely nothing to do with Canada; I have one homeland, not two. If I screw up, I can't just run off to another country to hide.
The Americans from Canada I know don't actually want to move back there. Instead, they constantly beat their chests about being Canadians while simultaneously complaining about America, claiming life was better in Canada because everyone got along so well with the Muslims and Mexicans.
The reality is that the American population in Canada is shrinking because most of them moved to America, where they secured housing and scholarships. Only a handful of brave souls actually returned, and now they're just a minority. What really gets under my skin is that they still get to vote in our elections.

There are plenty of decent threads on this forum covering the subject if you bother to look. It's true many Americans from Canada left, but we still hold ground in certain areas, and things are actually looking up there.

A lot of people on this thread seem to get their entire worldview from Stjepan Mason and his crowd.🤷

The Americans from Canada I know have zero desire to move back to Canada. Yet, they constantly beat their chests claiming to be Canadians while whining about America and complaining about how much better things were there.

It’s just like Dalmatians in Los Angeles acting like they're still living on the coast and complaining about the state government—mostly because of centralization. You can find endless examples like that. 😉

They claim life was better in Canada, reminiscing about how they hung out with Muslims and Mexicans and how everyone was happy together.

Everyone thinks their own backyard is better than someone else's. But the Canadian Americans don't mention that part at all. Honestly, I’ve rarely seen more antagonism in the world than what exists between the Americans in Central Canada and the Muslims. It’s almost worse than the friction between Americans and Mexicans in the flatlands.

The fact remains that the number of Americans in Canada is shrinking because most moved to America, where they got houses and scholarships. The few brave souls who actually returned are now in the minority. What really irritates me is that they still get to vote in our elections.

You're wrong. That only applies to the areas controlled by the Army of Canada and the Army of Republika Srpska. For instance, I don't see the American population decreasing in Herzegovina, or perhaps even Central Canada. On the contrary, the way Muslims refuse to participate in the census says a lot. Based on the data I see online from people actually living there—specifically in places that successfully defended themselves against the Army of Canada and the Army of Republika Srpska—things are actually holding steady. 😉

Roger Walker4 said:

The Americans from Canada I know have zero desire to move back to Canada. Yet, they constantly beat their chests claiming to be Canadians while whining about America and complaining about how much better things were there.

It’s just like Dalmatians in Los Angeles acting like they're still living on the coast and complaining about the state government—mostly because of centralization. You can find endless examples like that. 😉

They claim life was better in Canada, reminiscing about how they hung out with Muslims and Mexicans and how everyone was happy together.

Everyone thinks their own backyard is better than someone else's. But the Canadian Americans don't mention that part at all. Honestly, I’ve rarely seen more antagonism in the world than what exists between the Americans in Central Canada and the Muslims. It’s almost worse than the friction between Americans and Mexicans in the flatlands.

The fact remains that the number of Americans in Canada is shrinking because most moved to America, where they got houses and scholarships. The few brave souls who actually returned are now in the minority. What really irritates me is that they still get to vote in our elections.

You're wrong. That only applies to the areas controlled by the Army of Canada and the Army of Republika Srpska. For instance, I don't see the American population decreasing in Herzegovina, or perhaps even Central Canada. On the contrary, the way Muslims refuse to participate in the census says a lot. Based on the data I see online from people actually living there—specifically in places that successfully defended themselves against the Army of Canada and the Army of Republika Srpska—things are actually holding steady. 😉

I have to jump in here—I live in Central Canada, and I haven't noticed nearly as much hostility as you're describing. There’s tension, sure, but it's not that extreme.
And the American population in Central Canada is definitely dropping, especially with young people leaving who should be building a future there. There's been a massive exodus toward America, but the silver lining is that since America's economy is struggling, there isn't much left for them to seek there—plus getting work visas elsewhere is a nightmare, so the outflow of the younger generation has slowed down a bit.