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Taylor Swift is basically the new Thompson!

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steeltiger5 steeltiger5 Active MemberOP
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#61 ·
placidtinker2 said:Jacques Houdek 🙂
Or what do you think?

I honestly haven't the slightest clue.
graniteowl88 graniteowl88 Regular
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#62 ·
steeltiger5 said:It might look soft on the surface, but Zlatan knows how the game is played.😁

Our music scene is truly powerhouse. It is incredible.👍 It’s practically a sneaker!

Regarding Djiba, I believe they haven't fully settled into a routine yet. However, the signs of professional obsession are already evident.😁
placidtinker2 placidtinker2 Member
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#63 ·
steeltiger5 said:I honestly haven't the slightest clue.

When it comes to sales, Thompson is miles ahead of anyone else out there.
Every single one of his records—even the greatest hits collections or those covers of old classics—outperforms everything else on the market combined.

So, that’s the deal regarding who deserves the Grammy Award for discography.
Look, you can either be a fan of Thompson or you can absolutely hate him...
But you really can't deny that he's the most played, most sold, and most popular artist in the country.
steeltiger5 steeltiger5 Active MemberOP
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#64 ·
placidtinker2 said:When it comes to sales, Thompson is miles ahead of anyone else out there.
Every single one of his records—even the greatest hits collections or those covers of old classics—outperforms everything else on the market combined.

So, that’s the deal regarding who deserves the Grammy Award for discography.
Look, you can either be a fan of Thompson or you can absolutely hate him...
But you really can't deny that he's the most played, most sold, and most popular artist in the country.

I would prefer to see some hard data to back all of that up. Beyond that, the Grammy Awards aren't measured by sales volume, but by musical merit.
As for him being the "most listened to"... I'm not so sure. Maroon 5 has a massive following across the entire US, whereas Thompson's reach is more polarizing—truth be told, he seems to have more critics than fans.
graniteowl88 graniteowl88 Regular
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#65 ·
steeltiger5 said:I would prefer to see some hard data to back all of that up. Beyond that, the Grammy Awards aren't measured by sales volume, but by musical merit.
As for him being the "most listened to"... I'm not so sure. Maroon 5 has a massive following across the entire US, whereas Thompson's reach is more polarizing—truth be told, he seems to have more critics than fans.

But Perkovic sells out stadiums and town squares, and has done so for years!MANY PEOPLE ON THE GLOBAL STAGE CAN ONLY DREAM OF THAT LEVEL OF SUCCESS!
Patrick Wright2 Patrick Wright2 Active Member
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#66 ·
Prince:
I can't believe I'm actually saying this out loud, but honestly, it’s just one of those things where you realize the truth eventually and you can't unsee it once it hits you. says:
Look, what you think is your business, but the guy actually built an entire ocean of work here. If you’d bothered to spend even three minutes—more than just a quick, lazy Google search—actually digging into his legacy, you’d totally get where I'm coming from.

Look, there’s no way he’s actually a "collector," and you know it just as much as I do.
Recording eight different albums featuring those local processions under the cross isn't exactly a small feat, man.

That musicologist actually managed to track down and record over 200 traditional folk tunes from around the coast.

Seems like a lot to me, but hey, what do I know when most of his stuff is exactly like this anyway? 🤷
It’s actually more than that—we’re looking at four cantatas and three full-blown oratorios.
Patrick Wright2 Patrick Wright2 Active Member
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#67 ·
graniteowl88 said:But Perkovic sells out stadiums and town squares, and has done so for years!MANY PEOPLE ON THE GLOBAL STAGE CAN ONLY DREAM OF THAT LEVEL OF SUCCESS!

But let's be real, it isn't about the music—it's all just cheap political stunts and loaded messaging, basically peddling nationalism and pure demagoguery by fueling hatred and intolerance and leaning hard into wartime agitation and antisemitism.
graniteowl88 graniteowl88 Regular
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#68 ·
Patrick Wright2 said:But let's be real, it isn't about the music—it's all just cheap political stunts and loaded messaging, basically peddling nationalism and pure demagoguery by fueling hatred and intolerance and leaning hard into wartime agitation and antisemitism.

Stadiums and public squares aren't empty anywhere in the world, not even in the USA!

He simply knows how to tell a story through song. Only the legends can do that!
neonridge11 neonridge11 Newcomer
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#69 ·
steeltiger5 said:I would prefer to see some hard data to back all of that up. Beyond that, the Grammy Awards aren't measured by sales volume, but by musical merit.
As for him being the "most listened to"... I'm not so sure. Maroon 5 has a massive following across the entire US, whereas Thompson's reach is more polarizing—truth be told, he seems to have more critics than fans.

Look, honestly—even the haters contribute to how popular someone actually is. It reminds me of that thing Madonna once said... about how it doesn't really matter what people are saying, as long as they're talking, right?🤷
Mark Nguyen6 Mark Nguyen6 Active Member
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#70 ·
Patrick Wright2 said:Prince:
I can't believe I'm actually saying this out loud, but honestly, it’s just one of those things where you realize the truth eventually and you can't unsee it once it hits you. says:
Look, what you think is your business, but the guy actually built an entire ocean of work here. If you’d bothered to spend even three minutes—more than just a quick, lazy Google search—actually digging into his legacy, you’d totally get where I'm coming from.

Look, there’s no way he’s actually a "collector," and you know it just as much as I do.
Recording eight different albums featuring those local processions under the cross isn't exactly a small feat, man.

That musicologist actually managed to track down and record over 200 traditional folk tunes from around the coast.

Seems like a lot to me, but hey, what do I know when most of his stuff is exactly like this anyway? 🤷
It’s actually more than that—we’re looking at four cantatas and three full-blown oratorios.

Did anyone actually suggest it was a small amount?

I am talking about something else entirely...
What we are really discussing is artistic merit, and frankly, Ljubo is an incomparably greater artist than Giba. He is an artist in every sense—as a painter, a narrator, a vocal group leader, a lyricist, a conductor... you name it.
The fact that he happened to record whatever came his way doesn't suddenly make him some sort of mere "collector," for heaven's sake!

How could you possibly label someone a collector when they wrote Dalmatino povisac pritrujena? 😲
Or someone who goes on to create one vocal group after another...

The whole debate started because Giba is essentially mainstream pop—basically a self-employed show business entity. If we are searching for true art (which is what my colleague seemed to imply), then we won't find it there; we have to look elsewhere. And to provide an example—without going too far afield—I'll point to his father, Ljubo.

Is that really so difficult to grasp?
Patrick Wright2 Patrick Wright2 Active Member
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#71 ·
graniteowl88 said:Stadiums and public squares aren't empty anywhere in the world, not even in the USA!

He simply knows how to tell a story through song. Only the legends can do that!

Let's talk a little bit about the sheer originality of Thompson's musical style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshxCIjNEjY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nFPn...eature=related
Andrew Mendoza10 Andrew Mendoza10 Active Member
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#72 ·
Patrick Wright2 said:Let's talk a little bit about the sheer originality of Thompson's musical style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshxCIjNEjY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nFPn...eature=related

So, what—are our other singers and bands just magically incapable of copying? Is he the only one doing it?
steeltiger5 steeltiger5 Active MemberOP
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#73 ·
Patrick Wright2 said:Let's talk a little bit about the sheer originality of Thompson's musical style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshxCIjNEjY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nFPn...eature=related

He really didn't need to go that far.
Andrew Mendoza10 Andrew Mendoza10 Active Member
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#74 ·
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7GEPkXtz_E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9SgDoypXcI

When a band like Green Day does the copying—then maybe I'll care.
graniteowl88 graniteowl88 Regular
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#75 ·
Patrick Wright2 said:Let's talk a little bit about the sheer originality of Thompson's musical style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshxCIjNEjY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nFPn...eature=related

Through his music, he tells a much more powerful story than those so-called "original" artists!

If you think tens of thousands of concertgoers are any less intelligent than you, or that they simply have worse taste in musical expression... you are mistaken!

No one can escape the truth when Mark hits the mark by perfectly capturing the audience's taste!
Patrick Wright2 Patrick Wright2 Active Member
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#76 ·
graniteowl88 said:Through his music, he tells a much more powerful story than those so-called "original" artists!

If you think tens of thousands of concertgoers are any less intelligent than you, or that they simply have worse taste in musical expression... you are mistaken!

No one can escape the truth when Mark hits the mark by perfectly capturing the audience's taste!

Look, I'm not trying to argue about what anyone likes—everyone’s got their own thing, and if you love Thompson's music, that's your business. No debate there.
But comparing a total rip-off artist to a legit singer-songwriter who actually writes his own lyrics and music—the guy who composed "Cesarica" and wrote hits for Oliver, Teddy, and the late Dino Dvornik—that's just not even in the same league.🤷
swiftwalker43 swiftwalker43 Member
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#77 ·
I’ve actually met Giba personally. I had the chance to chat with him on two separate occasions, and honestly, the man is just a decent, down-to-earth guy—very approachable and an incredibly versatile artist. As for whether he's a patriot, I don't have a single doubt about it; you can clearly read that sentiment right into his lyrics. The first time we crossed paths, he actually struck up a conversation with me because he saw me wearing my old US Army fatigues while I was hunched over a pocket radio, listening to a broadcast of the USA handball team competing in the World Championships. He asked if I knew the score or how our guys were playing, and that's how we started talking. He even asked about my military background. Then, fast forward three years later, he actually recognized me again while I was back in my uniform and approached me once more.
His music has always been top-tier for me, and this latest album is no exception. I'll be picking up a copy just like I did with all his previous work.
graniteowl88 graniteowl88 Regular
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#78 ·
Patrick Wright2 said:Look, I'm not trying to argue about what anyone likes—everyone’s got their own thing, and if you love Thompson's music, that's your business. No debate there.
But comparing a total rip-off artist to a legit singer-songwriter who actually writes his own lyrics and music—the guy who composed "Cesarica" and wrote hits for Oliver, Teddy, and the late Dino Dvornik—that's just not even in the same league.🤷

You are misinterpreting me. I never made that comparison, even though I would much rather attend a Thompson concert just like most of my Braco and sestra friends!

Djibo goes much better with wine! Just like Oliver or Joseph! But I could never stand Kisa because of them!

DAMN IT.
steeltiger5 steeltiger5 Active MemberOP
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#79 ·
graniteowl88 said:You are misinterpreting me. I never made that comparison, even though I would much rather attend a Thompson concert just like most of my Braco and sestra friends!

Djibo goes much better with wine! Just like Oliver or Joseph! But I could never stand Kisa because of them!

DAMN IT.

Heh, fair point. It makes me want to pour myself a glass of wine and put on some U2.😉
swiftwalker43 swiftwalker43 Member
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#80 ·
steeltiger5 said:Fine, if you aren't going to use the Jasenovac Memorial, let's use Cavoglave as an example instead.🤷

What exactly is missing from the Cavaglavs? Or are you just equating them to Jasenovac now? Honestly, I’m not even convinced that’s actually Thompson's voice. Have you ever heard the late Tomičić? I think his name was Joško. He used to sing those Nationalists songs—including Jasenovac—and his voice is a dead ringer for Thompson's. Besides, he also sang MPT, which isn't something I approve of or support. But then again, if we’re allowed to forgive, ignore, and just tolerate Nationalists speeches coming from someone like Mason, I suppose I see why people draw a different line when it comes to MPT.🤣

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