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How do I tell my son that they were the ones who shot his dad?

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Hannah Davis18 Hannah Davis18 Active MemberOP
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#101 ·
shadowowl9 said:And when you cry, you're just watering them. 😍 That's the main thing... making sure they don't wither away. 😬

So where am I even supposed to drop the tears? On some imaginary southern border? 😢

I mean, I'm sitting here trying to figure out where to start the mourning process; maybe starting with the Battle of Mohi or just diving straight into Bach's absolutism; honestly, my back probably isn't strong enough to carry all this historical blood and sorrow anyway.
What do you think? 🤔

Or maybe I should just stick to the Treaty of Rapallo—that’s probably easier for them to swallow; I doubt I can handle stuff from the 7th century, that feels like way too much for someone raised on America nostalgia.😁
George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
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#102 ·
amberviper39 said:A mutt like you belongs in a kennel.😬 You don't have the slightest clue about my pedigree.🤣 Should I drop my family tree on you? Honestly, it’s on the house.😉

Who actually gives a damn about some obnoxious teenager acting out online?? 😕 I was simply pointing out exactly where you belong. 👋
frozentinker432 frozentinker432 Member
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#103 ·
Edward Green amberviper39 said:A warning? A guard dog? A killer at heart? An enemy? Maybe. I guess it's all just semantics.

Smartass. 😍

If that works for you, then fine by me.
Look, I was just saying that there’s really no point in trying to argue with you when it comes to these kinds of topics. It's just a lost cause, I guess.

Edward Green amberviper39 said:I’m not exactly some hardcore patriot, if that makes you feel any better. I guess I just consider myself officially neutral. 😁And privately, too. 🙂

There’s nothing for me to comfort you about. It’s like asking me to care whether some guy from Germany is a patriot or not. That’s your business. Your patriotism—or lack thereof—means absolutely nothing to me.
So, "undecided"? Is that really the polite way to say someone's a coward? I guess it’s just a fancy term for having no backbone, refusing to take a stand, and basically just blowing whichever way the wind happens to be blowing. Maybe.

Edward Green said:I've never actually been to New York. 🙂
I wouldn't exactly want to move in the middle of the night. Not happening. 🙂

Give it a shot. Go visit. You might actually like it.
Edward Green Edward Green Regular
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#104 ·
amberviper39, I bet nobody’s told you in a long time that you act like a total teenager 😍
amberviper39 amberviper39 Member
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#105 ·
George Morgan3 said:Mexicans from Mexico:

Anatolian traces... darker skin tones, black hair

Mexicans from Mexico

A pure Anatolian look... some might even say Turkish

Those links you posted aren't working. But based on what you wrote—let me see if I'm following you here—you're basically saying that if I have dark skin and black hair, then my dad couldn't possibly be from rural Pennsylvania?😲 😬
amberviper39 amberviper39 Member
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#106 ·
Edward Green said:amberviper39, I bet nobody’s told you in ages that you’re basically a teenager😍


You’re totally right! It has been a loooooong time since anyone said that!😬 Well, hey, I guess there’s a first time for everything, right? Maybe I should just tell my husband he’s nothing more than your average creep—honestly, shame on him!😍
Edward Green Edward Green Regular
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#107 ·
frozentinker432 said:if that works for you, fine
but I was actually warning you that there's no point arguing with you on stuff like this

What kind of "stuff"? Do you even know what a topic is? 😁

So, "undecided"? Is that just a fancy way of saying cowardice, having no backbone, and just following whichever way the wind blows?

I'm no coward. I have firm stances on plenty of things. I don't flip-flop on anything. For one thing, I don't claim any specific nationality, and I've never pretended to shift my views just to get ahead somewhere. This column was filled out exactly how it was before anyone ever asked me anything, and honestly, it's probably better that way because there are american out there who would fight their own kids for their country. 🙂 😉

Well, give it a shot. Go visit. You might actually enjoy it.

I will one day. Want a postcard? 🙂
George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
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#108 ·
It’s actually quite simple... anyone can see who stepped on whom in their own family tree.
Edward Green Edward Green Regular
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#109 ·
amberviper39 said:The links aren't even working. But based on what you're saying, let me see if I got this right: so, if I happen to be dark-skinned with black hair, then my dad isn't from the Midwest?😲 😬

Turkish!
Hannah Davis18 Hannah Davis18 Active MemberOP
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#110 ·
amberviper39 said:The links are broken. But based on what you're saying, let me see if I got this right... basically, if I have dark skin and black hair, then my dad isn't from the Midwest?😲 😬

yeah sure, a Midwesterner with an Ataturk vibe😁
shadowowl9 shadowowl9 Member
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#111 ·
Hannah Davis18 said:And where exactly are those tears supposed to fall? Some imaginary version of the Deep South? 😢

Where do I even begin with this misery? Should I start with the slaughter at Gettysburg or jump straight into the suffocating grip of Bach’s absolutism? It feels like my last chance to take the entire weight of this world's blood and sorrow and heave it onto my own tired shoulders.
What’s your take on this? 🤔

Or they could just stick to the Rapallo Treaty; that’s a much easier pill for them to swallow. I know I won't be able to stomach anything dating back to the 7th century—that's just asking for too much from someone with an American mindset.😁

Personally, I feel the weight of it most when I think about the lost glory of families like the Zrinskis and the Frankapans. Ever since they were gone, everything has just spiraled... and I won't even pretend to say where we ended up.
I truly believe that history serves as life’s ultimate teacher. It has to, doesn't it? After all, our own actions are driven by our personal experiences—our own private histories. If we are shaped by what we've been through, then it stands to reason that history itself acts as the architect for the future of entire nations.
What do I actually gain from my own suffering over people who were unjustly taken from us? Honestly, just this one certainty: heroism, integrity, and faith in God don't just evaporate overnight. That realization is enough to keep me going—to keep me pushing for what I believe is right and fighting against evil, whether that’s playing out in my own life or on a much larger scale.
George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
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#112 ·
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/8885/fd0055683lc.jpg

Well, here they are—right on cue. 🙂
Edward Green Edward Green Regular
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#113 ·
George Morgan3 said:it's easy enough... if you actually knew who stepped on whom in your family tree"

Same goes for you. 😉
Who knows whose blood is actually pumping through your veins? 😁
amberviper39 amberviper39 Member
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#114 ·
Hannah Davis18 said:Okay, seriously though, someone give this guy an Ataturk makeover.😁


🤣
amberviper39 amberviper39 Member
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#115 ·
Hannah Davis18 said:Man, you're really out here giving off major Ataturk vibes.😁


🤣 Seriously though, does any of this even matter once you've been working under the table and come back from your vacation?
Hannah Davis18 Hannah Davis18 Active MemberOP
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#116 ·
shadowowl9 said:What am I even getting out of suffering for people who were wrongly killed? I mean, I guess I get the peace of mind knowing that things like courage, integrity, and faith in God aren't just gonna vanish overnight. Maybe that’s what keeps me going—trying to do what’s right and fighting back against evil, whether it’s my own stuff or bigger issues.

I’d toss God out; and if I have to suffer, fine; nothing about this being forgotten tomorrow was ever mentioned; that doesn't really apply to me.

but if you have to pick your timing and watch how you present things to a kid; yeah, I stood for that:

sure, and so was America; but Jose Chase2 knows that better than anyone: what I gave up 🙂
Hannah Davis18 Hannah Davis18 Active MemberOP
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#117 ·
amberviper39 said:🤣 Man, is it even worth it if you just get some shady under-the-table work done and then head back after getting your hair fixed?

I mean, I don't know, there are tons of ways to do it😲
if you try to do highlights again, you'll probably just mess it up; there are other ways, I guess.
George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
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#118 ·
Edward Green said:the same goes for you, 😉
heaven knows whose blood is pumping through your veins. 😁

the Kozara crew definitely won't 🤣
frozentinker432 frozentinker432 Member
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#119 ·
wanderingcanyon3 said:The issue here is that you aren't a patriot. You’re just a chauvinist and a nationalist, plus you’re incredibly lacking in any meaningful cultural literacy, so trying to have a constructive debate with you is a waste of time even when one is bored. Let's be clear—it’s not about your specific stance; plenty of people are nationalistic or chauvinistic in politics, yet they actually know how to hold a conversation and handle basic facts. You, little girl, are completely illiterate on this subject, which explains why you’d drop such a primitive sentence.

hahaha, and where did you suddenly come from? God, I love these condescending little kittens popping out of nowhere like some deus ex machina to try and settle an entire ten-page debate with a single post. You basically just summarized the core problem by implying I haven't studied enough history to discuss 1991, 1945, 1102, or 1671. Give me a break. Nobody was even trying to do that, so your pretentious, arrogant little lecture is totally unnecessary. Honestly. If you had actually followed the thread, or if you actually had the capacity to draw smarter conclusions, you’d see I wasn't being a chauvinist at any point—unless, I guess, attacking your own people counts as chauvinism. And as for nationalism? That word doesn't have a negative connotation in my vocabulary when it refers to loving your homeland and the people you belong to. That one sentence you're using as proof of my "primitivism" is also taken completely out of context just so you could spout your wisdom. It's perfectly logical that I wouldn't sit down and argue with someone from a different nation about whether they value my country enough; that would just be a waste of breath. It wasn't chauvinism or an insult, just a mild observation I'd make to an Italian, a German, a Mexican, a Georgian, an Angolan, a random guy, a Chinese person, or a Cambodian.
Edward Green Edward Green Regular
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#120 ·
Look, I respect all nations equally. 🙂
What's your actual point here?

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