Bad Boys

As far as I’m concerned, there’s just no room for all this hype here.
The decision has been made, period. Time will tell how this actually plays out in the real world. Right now, nobody has a crystal ball, and we’re all going to be a lot wiser once we see how things shake out after the Juventus and Hajduk Split matches.
After that? After that, everyone can go their own way. It's up to every individual to decide if they want to follow a path that satisfies someone else or blaze their own. I trust that everyone will respect whatever direction people choose to take.
All of us who aren't deep in the inner circle, who don't know every single detail, yet still sit here talking trash and acting like experts without any actual basis—since our opinions aren't being respected anyway—we're basically just spinning our wheels. Everyone needs to chill out and let time reveal what's coming. Both the Juventus and Hajduk Split situations will be over before you know it.
Of course, there will always be dissenters, and it's their right to refuse to follow the path. But experience tells me that no matter how much they complain, they'll eventually just bow their heads and go with the flow without making a scene.
And let me make one thing very clear: just because I allow people to debate the facts doesn't mean anyone gets to insult those who haven't done anything wrong. NOBODY—and I repeat, NOBODY—has the right to spit on people who are asking legitimate, reasoned questions. (And when provocateurs make themselves obvious, they get wiped out and penalized regardless). They act like they're so damn smart, questioning where people were or what they were doing, just because they were either ignored (when they offered advice or help) or simply weren't available 24/7. Anyone with good intentions has the right to ask questions and offer advice whenever they want. Sure, there might be better places for it, but it's their right, and they shouldn't be attacked for it. There are people here without whom these loudmouths probably wouldn't even be able to maintain this lifestyle—at least not regarding BBB.

Drew Barnes4 said:I’m not talking about the core Bad Boys—I mean the former guys, the casual fans, the sympathizers, all that. There are plenty of people who aren't officially part of the crew but would still show up at the stadium to stand with the group and be part of the energy. When you see 5,000 or 6,000 people down in the stands during a big rivalry game, they aren't all Bad Boys. That group is a minority... always has been, always will be. I’m talking about the folks who want to be in the North Stand, chanting for the full 90 minutes, waving flags, following the lead, and just soaking in the atmosphere. Those people aren't going to slide into DMs or call Illica or ask Šalat for insider info. People have a right to know what’s going on, even if it's out in the open on a forum, because let's face it, things are sensitive right now and everyone is looking for answers. This news about a comeback hit them like a bolt from the blue, especially considering everything that's gone down over the last five or six years. People are confused. I get that the original crew doesn't give a damn about any of this since they carried the whole fight on their own backs, but even for someone like me who isn't as active as I used to be, I've had about ten people call me since yesterday asking what the hell is happening. It’s awkward, and honestly, it feels pretty shitty because I don't have anything smart to say as a former member. Just... chill out a little, and things will settle. See you at Šalat. 👍

Exactly. You basically put into words what I didn't feel like typing out. 👍

Alright, figured I’d jump into this totally pointless debate myself. Look, for me—just like for a lot of you—Svetin, Antolić, Marčinko, and that whole crew are honestly maybe even more repulsive than the Big Boss himself. But... here’s the reality check: the fans have pretty much exhausted every possible way to fight back. The boss was hauled into court and now he's stuck dealing with the judicial system and the state. Now, whether that legal system is actually legitimate or if the state is even functioning is a whole other conversation. Sure, maybe one more protest or some other stunt could have been pulled, but I’m not even sure it would’ve moved the needle any further than what we’re seeing right now. Maybe we didn't get everything we wanted, but what’s the alternative? Just sit around in some half-legal limbo and wither away, or actually try something? Clearly, they decided to take a swing at it, but let's be real—nothing means anything without the stands. The fans belong in the stands; anything else is just unnatural nonsense. That’s where their voice carries the most weight, especially when the mainstream media shuts them out. And look, you can't get back to those stands without getting rid of the blacklists, so obviously, they chose the lesser of two evils. People constantly call the group leaders too hardheaded or too exclusive—and yeah, even I’ve thrown that at them—saying they should compromise once in a while for the good of the group (or whatever). And now that they actually *did* compromise, people are complaining again. I am personally never going to accept Svetin, Antolić, or those mercenaries... and I won't be happy until everyone is purged from the club, which is exactly what I’ll be working toward from the stands. The fact that they even agreed to this within the club proves the fight actually worked to some extent. The bottom-feeders are just trying to stay on board; maybe they'll hang on for another week or a month, but eventually, they'll bail too. Anyway, that’s my take, and that’s why I’ll be at Central Park.

Henry Hayes4 said:Look, I might as well jump into this completely pointless debate. For me—just like for plenty of others—Svetin, Antolić, Marčinko, and the rest of that crowd are actually maybe even more repulsive than the Big Boss himself. But... the reality is that the fans have exhausted almost every conceivable way to fight back; the boss was hauled into court, and now the whole thing is sitting squarely in the hands of the judiciary and the state. Now, what kind of judicial system and what kind of government we’re dealing with is a whole different story. Sure, they could have organized another protest or some other stunt, but I honestly don't think it would have pushed things much further than where we stand right now. Maybe we didn't get everything we wanted, but what else is there? Just sit around in a legal gray area and wither away, or actually try to do something? Obviously, they chose to try something, but let's be real: none of it makes sense without the stands. The fans belong in the stands; anything else is just unnatural nonsense. That’s where their voice carries the most weight, especially when they get shut out of the mainstream media. And you can't get back to those stands without getting rid of the blacklists, so clearly, they decided to go with the lesser of two evils. People constantly criticize the group leaders—and I’ve been guilty of it too—saying they’re too hardline, too uncompromising, and that they should make compromises sometimes for the good of the group (and if you ask me, for the greater good). And now that they’ve actually made one, people are complaining again. I will personally never accept Svetin, Antolić, or those mercenaries... and I won't be happy until everyone is purged from the club, which is exactly what I intend to work toward from the stands. The fact that they even agreed to this within the club proves that the struggle was actually successful in many ways. The parasites are trying to stay on board; maybe they'll hang on for another week or a month, but eventually, they'll all jump ship. Anyway, that's my take, and that's why I'll be at Central Park.

Amen 👍👍👍

Noah Jones92 said:You all seem bothered by people asking for transparency regarding your agreements with Svetina. It feels like you view Dinamo Chicago fans as nothing more than mindless followers who shouldn't question anything once a few key leaders decide it's time to head to the matches. Is that just how your policy works?

I could swear I was at two different meetings discussing the return to the stands and talks with club officials. I’d bet money there was absolutely no way to have any connection to Dinamo unless you were specifically invited to those sessions.
And I’d wager that everyone present laid out their positions in full detail, leaving no room for anyone besides the moderator to actually ask a single question.

I’d also bet that you were right here criticizing people while they were out in Athens, acting like targets and bleeding because they had to hide like criminals from the police. So, why do you think you have any right to demand explanations from anyone? If things had gone your way, wouldn't they still be crossing borders and hiding from every officer in sight, leaving you with even more complaints about the leadership?

Henry Hayes4 said:Fine, I'll jump into this pointless argument too. Honestly, for me—and probably for a lot of you—Svetin, Antolić, Marčinko, and that whole crowd are actually more repulsive than the Boss himself. But... look at the reality. The fans have exhausted basically every way to fight back. The boss was hauled into court, and now it's all up to the justice system and the state. Now, what kind of "justice" or "state" we’re actually dealing with is another story entirely... Maybe there could have been one more protest or some other stunt, but I doubt it would’ve gone much further than where we are right now. Maybe we didn't get everything we wanted, but what's the alternative? Stay in some semi-legal limbo and just wither away, or actually try something? They obviously chose to try something, even though nothing means squat without the stands. The fans belong in the stands, anything else is just unnatural nonsense. That's where their voice carries the most weight, especially when the mainstream media shuts them out. And you can't get back to those stands without getting rid of the blacklists, so clearly they went with the lesser of two evils. People constantly accuse group leaders—myself included—of being too hard, too exclusive, and that they should compromise occasionally for the good of the group (or the bigger picture, I guess). And now that they finally did, people are complaining again. I'm never going to accept Svetin, Antolić, or those mercenaries... and I won't be happy until everyone is purged from the club, which is exactly what I'll try to achieve from the stands. The fact that they even agreed to this within the club shows the fight actually worked to some extent. The parasites are trying to stay on board, maybe they'll hang on for another week or a month, but eventually, they'll bail too. Anyway, that's my take. That's why I'll be at Central Park.

The only alternative is the key in the lock, so everyone get to the North Stand and stop nitpicking over who didn't show up.
Show up and support the group in this decision. It wasn't made overnight, and it sure as hell wasn't made just to be difficult.
The fight continues from the stands.

I find this whole situation highly suspicious. Details are bound to leak out soon. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if we see protesters marching on the Governor's mansion from the North Side before long.

Eric Ortiz3 said:Something feels off about this whole thing. The truth is gonna leak out soon enough. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if people start protesting at the CEO's house up north any day now.

Just a troll. 😁

Daniel Carter9 said:I’d swear on my life that I was at two meetings regarding returning to the stands and talking things out with the club brass. I’d swear there wasn't a single soul there who mattered, and I’d swear there wasn't a damn chance you had any connection to Dinamo Chicago unless you were personally handed an invite to those meetings.
And I’d swear everyone there laid their cards on the table, detailing exactly where they stood. I’d swear that besides the moderator, nobody was even allowed to ask a single question.

I’d also swear that you were sitting here trashing people while, for God knows what time, some mindless drones were wandering through Athens, bleeding in the streets because they had to hide like degenerates from two different police departments. So, I honestly don't see why you think you have any right to call anyone out or demand explanations. If we followed your logic, people would still be crossing borders like animals to hide from every idiot with a badge, and you’d still be whining about their behavior and insulting the cops.

Just tell me why you (and the other five sane people left) keep hunting these idiots??
Over the last three or four pages, there have been 17 trolls—absolute idiots—trying to stir up debates like "how much did you get paid to come back," when they know damn well that isn't true and are just posting garbage to provoke us. Since when did we start giving a damn about the opinions of 17 morons on some random internet forum?! You're giving them power and ruining this whole comeback movement. Have we really sunk so low that we have to justify our return to a bunch of idiots on a message board—seven brainless losers and four agitators who are just bored at home?

None of those fools will change their minds based on your posts, and all you're doing is getting worked up for nothing. If I had to read this thread in detail, along with the comments on news sites, I’d lose all my hair, chug a flask of Normabel, and crack a six-pack of beer just to cope.
Let the mice squeak. 🐔 Better to let them go play in the dirt...

And to all those self-righteous busybodies: go ahead, enjoy yourselves. Keep mocking, keep preaching, keep provoking... the field is wide open for you. Either way, I know that the moment we meet face-to-face, it’ll be 🕺

It seems like things aren't quite aligned here just yet... I truly believe that staying in sync, much like making any major decision, is entirely up to the individual. And let's face it, you can't please everyone all the time—you're not a slice of apple pie...

Is there a broadcast running from the Šalat game?

Patrick Newman5 said:Is there a stream for the game at Central Park?

You can find it on the FD Facebook page.

Jack Miller6 said:You've got the FD page on Facebook.

That was just the beginning, I guess. 😢

Eric Ortiz3 said:The whole thing smells fishy to me. Details are gonna leak sooner or later. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if we see some protesters storming the Capitol before long.

👍

steeltrucker said:👍

That’s it. Just hope those losers are cowards. They definitely are. 🙂

They really screwed themselves over after all that, and honestly, you guys played the biggest part in it. St Etienne was a total shocker, but whatever. Those bums are just acting like typical street rats—you know how it is, that shady city vibe. I can't put my finger on it, but even if they aren't officially part of the crowd, they definitely give off that same hooligan energy. Not being sarcastic, if you catch my drift.

Screw this.

I’m feeling pretty heated today. Honestly, screw you guys and your cold, closed-off Northern attitudes. 👍Don't worry about us. The real question is what the hell you all have been up to at Level Hazard over the last six years. I’m looking at your individual tracks today and honestly, if this is what you've cooked up, you're all full of it. Everything looks too polished, way too clean—it’s suspicious as hell. Those who know, know. And those who don't? They haven't a clue. I know there's a time coming when everything will be set straight. Every single person who called you out, from the local crooks to the loudmouths, is going to remember exactly what kind of mess you actually made.

You losers are going to pay for this. First, you'll get what's coming to you for the people who actually matter, and then those rats will get it too—those cowards who pretend to be on our side just so they can enjoy watching us suffer.

Most of these guys are absolute losers—like 80% of them. It’s honestly pathetic how many people there are.

Is that actually a good thing?

We just have to take the guys at face value and trust they made the right call here..
Honestly, I’m still scratching my head a bit over how they can be so certain about this move, but I'll say it again: we really ought to just give them the benefit of the doubt and wait to see how the dust settles for both Juventus and Ajduk...

So, after yesterday’s discussion, I figured I’d toss in a few extra thoughts of my own. After all, this is what this forum is for, right?

To be perfectly honest, I don't think I'll ever be able to truly cheer for Dinamo again. But, if we actually want to have some kind of influence over where this club is headed in the coming years—if we want to fight for something meaningful for the next generation—this is really our only move. The alternative is just locking the door and walking away. People deserve at least a seat at the table to see which direction things are being steered. Because let's face it: the alternative is simply turning out the lights and giving up on Dinamo entirely.

On the other hand, looking at the futsal squad, those guys embody the spirit of Dinamo more than the main team has in as long as I can remember. Honestly, they deserve our support at every single match.

salad 2016

Yesterday, just a bunch of kids marching from Vincennes down to the Square in a spontaneous parade after the game... traffic was totally backed up and there was thunder rolling in too. God, I love Dynamo... Seriously, hats off to those kids. Looking at how messy things have been for years now, you really can't be afraid of what's coming next for the future... 🙏

rizla-wb-1950 said:👍

They would celebrate Mamić's cup again, just like they celebrated those old championships...