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Best offshore sportsbooks for online betting?

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Gerald Jones56 Gerald Jones56 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Dec 2013
#1121 ·
Bryan Adams6 said:Tipico offers a 100% match up to $100, though I haven't dug into the fine print yet... I think I'll hold off on that one for now.

DraftKings is doing a 100% match up to $50, which is my top priority right now... just gotta hit an 8x rollover at 1.50 odds before I can touch the cash.

Eight times feels like a lot... or maybe it's just me.

So how does the math actually work? Am I supposed to hit a cumulative 1.50 odds eight times using that $50 stake, or what? For instance, if I put $50 down on a 1.60 line and walk away with $73, is that extra $23 mine to pocket immediately, or am I stuck rolling that over too? Same question for a smaller play—say I bet $2 to try and chase that $100 bonus. Is the profit technically mine once the bet hits, or is the whole thing locked behind the initial bonus requirement?
James Taylor3 James Taylor3 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1122 ·
Nothing is actually yours until you've rolled over the required $400—say, eight bets of $50—at 1.50 odds.
From there, you can either drop $50 at once and go all-in repeatedly, or just chip away with $2 increments. It doesn't matter much—it all adds up—provided you keep track of your total deposits somewhere in your account history.

Just double-check whether the cumulative odds need to hit 1.50 or if you just need at least one leg in the parlay to be at 1.50. That's how the rule works over at Bet365, though I can't speak for the others.
Bryan Adams6 Bryan Adams6 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1123 ·
Gerald Jones56 said:That looks like 8 times over to me...

So how does this work? Do I have to hit a 1.50 total odd 8 times straight with a $50 stake, or what? Like, if I bet $50 at 1.6 odds and land $73, can I just take that $23 profit and walk, or does that part have to be rolled over too? Same thing if I bet $2 and aim for a $100 bonus—is the profit mine to keep immediately, or am I stuck rolling over the whole thing including the base?

Players must fulfill rollover requirements of 8 times of first deposit amount, before they make bonus request.
If the stake rollover requirement for this bonus has not been met within 90 days of the first qualifying deposit any funds held in the bonus balance will be forfeited.
Any bets placed containing selections at odds of less than 1.50 (1/2) will not count towards any rollover requirement.

Basically, their deal is you have to roll over your actual deposit before you even touch the bonus. So if you open an account and drop $50, you gotta churn through $400 in total bets before that bonus hits your account.
Honestly, I much prefer when the bonus hits instantly and you just roll the whole pile over at once.😁
They don't care if you do 400 bets at $1 or 8 bets at $50. As long as you hit the number within 90 days, they're happy.

Now, whether that's hard or not... if you actually know what you're doing, it's doable.
I'm grinding through a rollover on another sportsbook right now with even nastier terms—10x at 2.00 odds. I've already cleared more than half the requirement and my initial bonus is already up 2.5x.😁
Gerald Jones56 Gerald Jones56 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2013
#1124 ·
Thanks to both of you for the heads-up...

It feels a bit sketchy trying to churn that bonus, honestly. But then again, I might just give it a shot over at DraftKings. At the end of the day, I’ve been placing my bets there or with the usual local guys anyway...
Bryan Adams6 Bryan Adams6 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1125 ·
Gerald Jones56 said:Thanks for the heads up, guys...

Wagering that bonus feels sketchy, but I might just give it a shot on DraftKings. At this point, I’m betting with them or these local spots anyway...

You'll probably realize things work better this way than back home. 😁
From what I can tell, DraftKings has offers similar to our local bookies (makes sense), but they don't have the multiplier. 😁
Gerald Jones56 Gerald Jones56 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2013
#1126 ·
Bryan Adams6 said:you’ll probably realize things work better this way than they do back home 😁
From what I've gathered, DraftKings offers something pretty similar to those local street hustlers we have here (which makes sense, I guess), but they don't have live betting. 😁

Anyway, I just signed up over there. We'll see how the deposit process goes in the next few days...

I still have a few lingering questions...

What happens to my initial $50 deposit? Not talking about bonus money, just actual cash. I assume I can't just pull it out immediately—not that I plan to, but I'm curious if there are any restrictions on that.

And if I'm reading the fine print correctly regarding the bonus: say I wager $50 eight times. On the first go, I get $75. Does $25 just vanish into thin air while the $50 stays in my balance, or am I forced to wager the entire winnings every single time? Because if it's the latter, 😬 that sounds absolutely exhausting.

I'm using specific numbers here just to illustrate the point, not necessarily reflecting my own bankroll. I hope you don't mind the hypothetical approach. 😁

Also, do you happen to know how those PayPal vouchers work? Are they available in $50 increments, or does the system handle the conversion if I try to use a different amount?

Edit: Honestly, I struggle with discipline when the money is digital. It all starts feeling like Monopoly money. I find myself wasting entire mornings betting on ITF live tournaments just because I'm bored and have nothing else to do. That's why I'm being cautious. 😁
Bryan Adams6 Bryan Adams6 Active Member
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joined Jul 2012
#1127 ·
Gerald Jones56 said:What’s the deal with my $50 deposit? It's actual cash, not some bonus bullshit, so I’m assuming I can't just pull it out immediately. I don't even plan on cashing out right away, but I need to know if there are actually rules for this too.

I don't know, man. Check the Terms & Conditions or just shoot them an email.

So if I’m getting this right, I’m dumping, say, $50 into the bonus eight times. First time rolls in $75, meaning $25 is just extra cash on the side while my $50 goes toward the bet. Or am I forced to wager the entire payout every single time? Because if that's the case, it's a total scam. 😬 ) ?

It's entirely up to you how much you want to drop. You can go in with $1, $4, or $75—doesn't matter. There aren't any rules. My advice? Start slow. Once you've bumped up that initial $50, then you can start scaling those stakes.

Also, anyone know what's up with these PayPal vouchers? Is there a $50 version, or do they just calculate whatever amount I pick based on the exchange rate?

Just a heads-up: they take PayPal vouchers. You just gotta check with them first to make sure they’ll actually accept ones bought here in the States, since they haven't always been valid on every site. I know for a fact they work on FanDuel and BetMGM, though.
Grab a voucher, hit up the Visa site, and use their currency converter to see what that cash is actually worth in dollars. Then just dump that exact amount into your sportsbook.
Gerald Jones56 Gerald Jones56 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2013
#1128 ·
But honestly, what I’m trying to figure out is if I’ve actually checked all their boxes. If I go ahead and deposit $50 eight different times, making sure each bet hits at least 1.5 odds, am I cleared to withdraw my cash?

So, here’s the math...

It’s $50 at 1.5 odds, which leaves me with $75. I’ll just set that extra $25 aside, untouched, and then drop another $50. If I repeat that cycle eight times, does that satisfy the requirements so I can finally pull my money out?

I’ll shoot them an email about this whole second part later this week, and once they get back to me, I'll let you guys know what the word is...
Bryan Adams6 Bryan Adams6 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1129 ·
Gerald Jones56 said:But what about me? Did I hit the requirements? Can I actually withdraw my cash if I deposit $50 eight times at 1.5 odds?

So basically

$50 x 1.5 = $75. I leave the extra $25 alone, then drop another $50. Do that 8 times, and I'm good to withdraw?

I'll shoot them an email about that second part in a few days and let you guys know what they say...

Yeah, the main thing is hitting that $400 total deposit mark. Once you do that, you can pull the bonus... along with whatever other winnings you've racked up (like a couple thousand bucks 😉)
Gerald Jones56 Gerald Jones56 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Dec 2013
#1130 ·
Bryan Adams6 said:Yeah, you just need to hit that $400 deposit threshold first, and then you're cleared to withdraw the bonus... along with whatever else you managed to stack up (a few thousand bucks 😉).

Thanks 👍
Gerald Jones56 Gerald Jones56 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Dec 2013
#1131 ·
Honestly, it feels ten times harder to actually get my money into a sportsbook than it does to pull a win out of one...

My stomach's been in knots for the last two hours. I feel like I’m sitting there watching some guy blow a 2-0 lead while he's staring down a fifteen-thousand-dollar loss...

🙂🙂🙂

Dammit, Moneybookers won't let me change my currency settings. My account is stuck in some ancient currency from God knows when—I can't even remember when I opened this thing, let alone why...🙂

I already pushed the transaction through at my bank, but since it was in dollars, once that money hits the account, it's going to get converted back into this useless old currency. Then, when I try to withdraw it, I'll just end up losing another ten percent to exchange rates, fees, and all that other bullshit.

I’m practically praying for a revolution where they finally crack down on these banks and bankers. Maybe then they'll figure out how to deal with these online degenerates...

🙂
Bryan Adams6 Bryan Adams6 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1132 ·
why on earth would you open a DraftKings account in dollars? 😕
Gerald Jones56 Gerald Jones56 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Dec 2013
#1133 ·
Bryan Adams6 said:I mean, why on earth would you open a DraftKings account in dollars? 😕

Honestly, I haven't the slightest clue. Yesterday, when I went to set up my account with Neteller, I realized the damn thing was already active—and set to USD... 🙂

So, here’s the plan. I'm heading down to Chase tomorrow morning at 8:00 AM to beg them to freeze the transaction and move the funds over to my foreign currency account. Then I'll just fund the sportsbook directly from there. It feels like a headache waiting to happen, and honestly, they could still find a way to screw me over during the withdrawal phase, but I don't really have any other choice...
redjackal redjackal Newcomer
2 messages
joined Apr 2013
#1134 ·
Bryan Adams6 said:Why on earth would you set up a DraftKings account in dollars? 😕

I opened mine ages ago too, and now they won't let me change it. Their rules say once that first transaction hits, you're stuck. Total nonsense...
Gerald Jones56 Gerald Jones56 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Dec 2013
#1135 ·
redjackal said:I set mine up ages ago, and now they’re refusing to let me change anything. Apparently, their rules say once you hit that first transaction, you're locked in forever. It's absolute nonsense, really...

Well, you could probably bypass that if you upgrade to a Goldman Sachs account, which I assume comes with a hefty price tag...

I'm fairly certain I haven't even made a single move over there yet, but the system insists I have and won't budge an inch on changing my details...
Arthur Wilson31 Arthur Wilson31 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Oct 2008
#1136 ·
Eric Fox7 said:The Department of the Treasury states:
X. FOREIGN GAMBLING

Article 68.

(1) It is prohibited to:

1. participate in foreign gambling if the stakes are being placed within the United States,

2. collect stakes within the United States for participation in gambling games organized abroad,

How does Eurojackpot fit into this—considering the Louisiana Lottery accepts payments for it?
Eric Fox7 Eric Fox7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1137 ·
You really ought to check in with the Louisiana Lottery about that
Timothy Martin52 Timothy Martin52 Member
22 messages
joined Jan 2013
#1138 ·
Arthur Wilson31 said:How does that work with Eurojackpot, given that the Louisiana Lottery handles the entries?

Eurojackpot isn't some shady offshore gambling operation; the lottery acts as one of the official organizers, so you're paying your taxes just like everything else.
Nicholas Palmer75 Nicholas Palmer75 Member
30 messages
joined May 2011
#1139 ·
redjackal said:Look, I opened mine ages ago too, but now they're refusing to let me switch it up. They actually claim in their rules that you can't change anything once that first transaction hits. Honestly? Absolute garbage rule...

Actually, Skrill does let you swap currencies or set up a new account. Just shoot them an email, give them the rundown on why you need the change, and if they're feeling generous, they'll send over the instructions.
redjackal redjackal Newcomer
2 messages
joined Apr 2013
#1140 ·
Nicholas Palmer75 said:Skrill lets you change your currency or set up a new account. Just shoot them an email, explain your reasoning, and if they agree, they'll send over the instructions.

I tried that a few months back and they shot me down... apparently, having existing transactions on the account makes it a no-go.

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