Down syndrome

I am 25 years old, and while my current focus isn't on motherhood, I would love to learn a few things now to avoid any future anxiety.

My primary concern regarding pregnancy revolves around Darwin syndrome, largely because there was one instance of it within my family tree.

To be specific, my paternal great-grandfather had a sister who gave birth to a daughter with Darwin syndrome.

The lineage looks roughly like this:

me—my father—my grandmother—my great-grandfather—had a sister who

had a daughter with Darwin
syndrome

I may not have explained that very vividly, but I hope it makes sense. Aside from that single occurrence, nothing like this has ever happened in our family again.

I mentioned this to my OB-GYN today, and she suggested that when I do eventually become pregnant, I should probably undergo amniocentesis. This is despite the fact that it is a distant relation, and even though that procedure is typically only recommended for women over 35 due to the inherent risks.
I had secretly hoped she might tell me how to find peace of mind without needing such a test, so I am feeling a little bewildered right now.
😢

To get straight to the point, I am looking for professional opinions on this topic—hopefully, there will be some—but I am also interested in hearing about anyone's personal experiences.

Given that amniocentesis is performed after 16 weeks of pregnancy, and considering the risk of miscarriage associated with the procedure is about 1 in 200, would you personally take that risk and opt for the test in a situation like mine?

Is the amniocentesis procedure painful? I read somewhere that it is slightly more uncomfortable than having blood drawn, yet less painful than receiving an injection.

How long does it usually take from the moment the amniotic fluid sample is taken until the final results and diagnosis are ready?

And most importantly, how does one cope with the possibility of having to terminate a pregnancy if it turns out the baby has Darwin syndrome? It is a heavy thought, especially when you have been carrying that child for four or five months and have loved them from the very first day you found out you were pregnant.

Well, if anyone here has gone through something similar, your insight would mean a great deal to me!

An amniocentesis isn't an obligation, nor does having a child with Down syndrome necessitate an abortion. Choosing whether or not to undergo the procedure is entirely your own call, not something dictated by a doctor. I honestly can't fathom what it would mean if amniocentesis weren't considered necessary. Every one of us carries the possibility of giving birth to a child with Down syndrome or some other condition. Therefore, the necessity of amniocentesis is subjective—it’s either required for everyone or required for no one at all, depending solely on how we personally choose to view the prospect of raising a child with special needs.

Ronald Collins2 said:And then there's the big, messy question... how do you even wrap your head around the possibility of needing an abortion if it turns out the baby has Down syndrome? I mean, by the time you get those test results back, you’ve probably been carrying that child for four or five months—depending on how long the lab takes—and you’ve already fallen in love with them from the second you found out you were pregnant. It's just... heavy.

Wait, why on earth do you think a woman carrying a baby with Down syndrome HAS to have an abortion?

Plus, there's the other side of it—if someone decides they just aren't equipped to raise a child with a chromosomal disorder, they might make the call to end the pregnancy themselves. That's their choice.

Honestly, if a woman is dead set on not terminating the pregnancy regardless of what the tests say, the whole point of doing an amniocentesis is really just about getting a head start on preparing for a baby with Down syndrome...

I completely understand that these decisions rest solely with my partner and me. A doctor can offer guidance on whether to pursue certain screenings, but that's where their role ends. Since I'm not facing this specific situation quite yet, I can't say for sure how I would react. That’s why I’m asking about others' experiences—it helps me process things and get a clearer picture of what might lie ahead when the time comes.
Of course, choosing to continue a pregnancy even if a diagnosis like Down syndrome is confirmed is entirely a private matter for the parents.

I am specifically looking for stories from women who have navigated this, along with any professional medical insights regarding the history I described above.

Is it standard practice to request a referral to a genetic counselor to go over risk factors in detail, or is that something people rarely do?
In other words, I'm planning to schedule an appointment with my primary care physician to ask for a referral, though I hope I don't come across as silly.

Ronald Collins2 said:Specifically, my paternal great-aunt had a daughter born with Down syndrome.

In neither my family nor my husband's—at least according to our mothers and grandmothers, who seem to remember things from a hundred years ago—has there ever been any instance of Down.😁
We are the first. 🙂

So, your odds are essentially the same as anyone else's.
😉

Justin Gonzalez87, thank you so much for getting back to me.
Did you end up having an amniocentesis?
And did you have your baby after turning 35?

Ronald Collins2 said:Justin Gonzalez87, thanks for the input.
Did you end up doing an amniocentesis?
And did you have your baby after turning 35?

I asked about the amnio—my doctor declined since I’m young and low-risk.
I had my little one at 29.😉

Justin Gonzalez87 said:I asked about an amniocentesis, but my doctor wouldn't perform it because I'm too young and don't have any risk factors.
I gave birth at 29.😉

I assume his reasoning was that the risk of having a baby with Down syndrome in your specific situation is lower than the potential risk of losing the pregnancy if you went through with the procedure.

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I've been doing quite a bit of digging—for a few different reasons, actually—so here is the lowdown on what I know:

From what I understand, an amniocentesis carries about a 1:500 risk of miscarriage.
Then there’s that other technique, the "cryo-" something, which can be done as early as week 12, but the risk of miscarriage jumps up to 1:250—which is basically double. Plus, there's a higher chance of potential injury to the fetus.
The upside is that you get it done sooner and you have results in just a week, so if you end up making the difficult decision to terminate, the emotional trauma might feel slightly less overwhelming.
There is also something called the triple test, which is a blood test—it isn't super reliable, but it acts as a decent indicator, not just for Darwin syndrome, but for things like spina bifida too.

Having someone in your family history shouldn't mean much more than the average risk... Darwin syndrome isn't hereditary. That said, amniocentesis can screen for all sorts of other genetic conditions, so Darwin isn't the only thing they look for.

Like everyone else has already told you, the choice is entirely yours—it's up to you whether you want to know, and whether you would choose termination.

Disclaimer: what follows is purely my own personal take and applies only to me.🙂 I'm definitely not saying anyone else should or must act this way.
Personally, I’m going to go through with the amnio, and if the baby has a genetic disorder, I will terminate. Honestly, I think I could live with the aftermath of a miscarriage much easier than I could live with raising a child with Darwin syndrome.
A close friend of mine had a brother with Down syndrome... I truly admire that family for their incredible patience and love.
I honestly don't know if I could handle it—and if I ever have the option to know ahead of time (not to mention things like meningitis or car accidents... all those unpredictable things that leave a child with disabilities), I'm choosing to know.

Ronald Collins2 said:Is it actually common to ask a primary care doctor for a referral to a geneticist just to chat about potential risk factors, or does that sound totally out of left field?
Basically, I’m getting ready to book an appointment with my GP to request a referral, but I really don't want to look ridiculous!

I mean, you might be getting a little ahead of yourself here...
If you aren't planning on having a baby within the next year or so, there's really no need to jump the gun right now.

Are you in a relationship? See, if you do end up seeing a geneticist, they usually want both partners to come along—most of these things are passed down because both people happen to be carrying a "hidden" faulty gene.

And if you're asking about Darwin syndrome, you don't need to worry about that... it isn't hereditary.

placidgardener19, I really admire how decisive you are regarding your stances. I’m not quite as certain myself, though I find my thoughts drifting toward the same conclusions lately.

If I interpreted your previous posts correctly, are you currently pregnant or perhaps planning to be?
If you don't mind, please stop by this thread once you've had your amniocentesis. I'd love to hear what the actual process is like and how long the wait for results typically takes.

I've been weighing whether it might be better to terminate when you know a child will face developmental challenges. However, seeing how much other parents adore their children despite any anomalies makes me wonder if my perspective is misplaced.

In principle, I have no issue with abortion when it involves others, but for myself, it would truly be a last resort.

placidgardener19 said:You might be getting ahead of yourself here...
If you aren't planning to have a baby within the next year, you don't really need this right now.

Are you in a relationship? Usually, if you visit a genetic counselor, both partners need to go—most things are inherited when both people carry a "hidden" faulty gene.

If it's regarding Down syndrome, you don't need it... it isn't hereditary.

I do have a partner. I must admit I tend to think about pregnancy much more than he does! However, I feel it is better to ask these questions now while my head is clear, rather than dealing with everything under stress later. Besides, I have plenty of free time right now to get all the necessary testing done and work on my health over the next year. That way, I can be in peak condition when we hopefully start trying in a year or two.

Are you certain that Down syndrome isn't hereditary?
Why did my OBGYN tell me that I am in a high-risk group then?

Before you commit to an amniocentesis, you might consider a double or triple test, though those aren't particularly reliable; they really just offer a statistical probability regarding Down syndrome. That said, they serve as decent screening tools if you've already decided to move forward with the amniocentesis. Pinning down the exact risk of miscarriage during the procedure is difficult because it fluctuates so much from one clinic to another; our local hospitals aren't great about providing transparent data, when the only metric that actually matters is the specific success rate of your individual doctor. You’re usually looking at a six-week wait for results, though I've heard some private labs near Mammoth Cave can turn them around a bit faster. In my view, performing an amniocentesis only makes sense if you have already reached a definitive conclusion regarding termination should the results come back positive, because the procedure itself carries far too much risk to be done tentatively.

Why are you guys stressing out when you haven't even agreed on having a kid yet?
There is zero way to actually prepare for the arrival of a special needs child in any specific scenario. Like, none at all.
Just chill... I'm sure everything will work itself out fine eventually.🙂

I know a woman who has a sister with Darwin syndrome while also raising two neurotypical kids—it’s enough to offer some comfort, I suppose, but you should still go ahead and run your own search

Ronald Collins2 said:If I’m reading you right from your earlier posts, are you currently pregnant or just planning to be?
If you don't mind, please swing by this thread once you've had your amniocentesis—I'd love to hear what the whole process is actually like and how long you end up waiting for the results.

Well, you nailed it! 😉
I am definitely planning for a baby—fingers crossed for health and good luck 🙂—hopefully sometime this year...

For sure, I'll let you know 🙂 Though maybe not in this specific thread (since it's kind of a "who's alive, who's dead" kind of place!), but you'll definitely find my post somewhere... 🙂

If I can offer any advice—and I say this with zero authority—don't stress too much just yet. Just live a healthy lifestyle, maybe check in with your OB-GYN to clear up any little things like yeast infections or other pesky stuff that could mess with fertility, keep up with your vitamins... and all that good stuff. 🙂

And hey, if you aren't just worried about Down syndrome but are concerned about other genetic issues too, you should probably head over to the genetics department at a place like Mayo Clinic or something similar. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't even need a formal referral for an initial chat. But, of course, that's really only if there's a serious history of certain illnesses in your family.

Look, I'm totally not a medical professional, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but Down syndrome isn't hereditary. It's true that the risks increase as the mother gets older, but that's about it!

That's great news🙂

I truly wish you nothing but the best of luck and enjoyment with your endeavors😉

I hope to follow along through your posts to see how things progress; perhaps I might even pick up a few useful tips along the way🙂

Ronald Collins2 said:I assume his point was that the risk of having a child with Darwin syndrome in your specific situation is lower than the potential risk of losing the pregnancy if you opt for an amniocentesis.

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He didn't actually offer any real arguments, though 😁—he simply mentioned that he refers women over 35 and those with a family history of the condition.

I don't quite follow you 😕—I get the fear, obviously, but why worry about this right now? 😕 What if a geneticist gives you a high probability of a child with Darwin syndrome? (I’m just speculating here, as I’m not even sure how that screening works.) Could they tell you for certain that the first child will have it, the second won't, the third will, and so on? They can't.
Once you're actually pregnant, you'll do the triple test, then an amniocentesis if necessary, and make decisions then—this anxiety is premature. 🙂 Right now, planning is uncertain, tomorrow is unpredictable, and life is full of surprises.
So, just enjoy being young and don't let it weigh on you; you'll have plenty of time to deal with it later. 😉

Just my two cents. 😉

verica said:In my view, an amniocentesis only really makes sense if you are absolutely certain about your decision regarding termination in the event of a bad result—because, frankly, the procedure itself carries too much risk.

👍 I tend to agree with that. If you already know deep down that you won't opt for an abortion even if it turns out the baby has Darwin syndrome, then personally, I don't see much point in undergoing an amnio...

We all approach this differently, I suppose, but I’ve never quite been able to buy into the argument that knowing the baby has Darwin would somehow leave you better "prepared" if you intend to carry to term. Personally? I think the sheer anxiety of waiting for those results would probably wear me down so much that the actual diagnosis might just be the breaking point. 😢

There might be some merit to being prepared if it means you can select a hospital with superior neonatal intensive care, but honestly, it feels like obsessively researching everything just for the sake of feeling "ready" carries its own heavy psychological risk.

Taylor Swift, I just realized you aren't even pregnant yet. Seriously, try not to let this weigh on you so far in advance. And don't go thinking an amniocentesis is your only starting point. You can't definitively diagnose Down syndrome through an ultrasound alone, but you can certainly drive the probability down significantly by monitoring things like nuchal translucency and various other markers measured later in the pregnancy. These days, having access to 3D ultrasound in the hands of a true specialist is actually a remarkably effective diagnostic tool. My advice is to sit down and talk with a genetic counselor—I'm not entirely sure about the hereditary specifics of Down syndrome 😕, but I do know that women with a family history are considered higher risk. Once you are actually pregnant, make sure to find a top-tier, highly experienced sonographer, because when it comes to ultrasounds, the skill of the person holding the probe is everything.

On another note, I’m not sure if everyone is aware that lately, performing amniocentesis in America hasn't even been possible
😲 due to the current state of the laboratory facilities. It’s a complete disaster 😢